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Hazel Chu
Just the whole histrionics
But today
Why is it ok to say your delighted to hand over to another female lead ?
Should we not be gender blind
Do we not raise our children not to differentiate between people on race colour creed belief gender or other.
So why does it matter.
I was watching the RTE news last night and it was their same old message: we are all going to die, and it is all your fault! Yes YOU personally! The way they go on it is like you are back in school again with a cross teacher giving out to you. Dodgy
Anyway I changed the channel and there was a choir of children singing Christmas carols. My spirits sarted to lift straight away and I started to feel really positive and uplifted.
You don't even realise how much of a downer and how negative and depressing/ oppressing a vibe the news shows are putting you into when you are watching them. Sad
So I have decided to give myself an early Christmas present: no more news until the New Year, maybe never. I'm going to have a much more positive and relaxed Christmas  Smile
^ I very rarely watch the news. Havent done for years. If something really important is happening I'm sure Mrs. Wichi will let me know.
I gave up watching the news and reading about Covid numbers a few months into the whole thing. If there's an announcement about something that will impact on me like new restrictions, I'll take a look, but otherwise it's just the same stuff being churned out day after day. Depending on your mental state it'll either depress, panic or bore you, but either way it's not going to improve your day in any way, so why bother?
I was in the doctor's surgery this morning at 9am, and they had Sky News and Kay Burley on the tv, broadcasting their doom and panic about Omicron and France closing its borders to the UK. It was such a mood sucker, and all before I even had coffee.
Yeah, the news can really drag you under. I'm the same, I pick and choose what to read. With covid I read the raw numbers only, because I'm a mathematician I can't help myself. And they really don't concern me too much, but then I'm also optimistic and wantonly naive! Sometimes you have to choose naivety though

The only problem with cherry picking news sources is that you can get very biased, and I think that's a lot of what happening in the world. It is good to read about things you disagree with to understand other viewpoints but I'm a hypocrit and don't make the effort that much Confused
You'd have to laugh at Tony and the Government. Triple vaccinated but hospitality must close at 5pm. 90% of the country vaccinated.
It will obviously be much safer with everyone piling into house parties. Oh wait ... Cool

Let's hope the government don't follow that recommendation from the harbinger of doom.
(17-12-2021, 06:16 PM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote: [ -> ]You'd have to laugh at Tony and the Government. Triple vaccinated but hospitality must close at 5pm. 90% of the country vaccinated.


8pm now - total pantomime farce by the government, playing with people's emotions and livelihoods for points scoring and optics.

I must invite the three wise men to the next panto, oh wait... it wouldn't be allowed go ahead after 8pm.

Omicron's BEHIND YOU - only after 8pm though!
It's a joke , except it's not funny .
You'd pity all those publicans , especially those in rural areas who were fcuked over already who might only open at 5pm for an evening trade .

The Mental Health cost of the last (practically) two years , is the real price being paid across every walk of life .
Covid has some impressive magical qualities all the same. It doesn't spread in schools as the government insist the majority of cases are contracted outside school and it waits until 8 pm to infect adults.

It's time to live with this and stop the nonsense.
I don't even know why I'm bothering to listen to this announcement from the Taoiseach. Talk about doom and gloom.
Same here @cee_jay .
I just checked the headline on RTE Now, no way am I looking at it on a Friday evening, it's time to chill.
pantos starting at 3:30 are safe, but pantos starting at 6:30 have to be cancelled now due to omnicron.
8pm closing
I feel for everyone who works in hospitality. It must be awful nerve wracking for them. Their livelihoods are in the hands of others.

It's hard to live in a country where there are restrictions on our freedoms even if they are things we don't do or partake in.
I've said it elsewhere but this Country is too obsessed with drink anyways.  It will give them a chance to reflect..







In their pint glasses







At 10am
The virus gets deadlier after 8pm, yer man on the ryanair flight told me.
(17-12-2021, 09:55 PM)ShaneU Wrote: [ -> ]The virus gets deadlier after 8pm, yer man on the ryanair flight told me.
The virus works the night shift and doesn't clock on until 8 Dodgy
Crowd of idiots we have in government, if they performed like they have done in any field of the private sector they would have been out on their ears with their P45 long ago.
Just a thought too, but won't the new closing hours mean people will be going to meet up at the pub straight from work on an empty stomach and drinking faster because they have so little time before closing. It could get very messy.
(17-12-2021, 10:27 PM)Butty Brennan Wrote: [ -> ]Just a thought too, but won't the new closing hours mean people will be going to meet up at the pub straight from work on an empty stomach and drinking faster because they have so little time before closing. It could get very messy.

Yep, it's all a bloody mess. Terrible governance. And they continue to downplay the role of the vaccine in all of this as well with added measures such as 5 days isolation for a close contact even if you're boosted, 10 days if you only have two doses (basically same as unvaxxed).

The government would want to be careful with their messaging because it's going to put people off getting boosted and people are already nervous about getting their kids vaxxed, to be told it makes no difference when kids won't have three doses for months and months... people are just going to say why bother, I see it already.

I mean FF were shocking bad in the noughties but this current government are running them close as the most incompetent, unorganised crowd of fools that ever got into power.
(17-12-2021, 10:34 PM)Necro Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-12-2021, 10:27 PM)Butty Brennan Wrote: [ -> ]Just a thought too, but won't the new closing hours mean people will be going to meet up at the pub straight from work on an empty stomach and drinking faster because they have so little time before closing. It could get very messy.

Yep, it's all a bloody mess. Terrible governance. And they continue to downplay the role of the vaccine in all of this as well with added measures such as 5 days isolation for a close contact even if you're boosted, 10 days if you only have two doses (basically same as unvaxxed).

The government would want to be careful with their messaging because it's going to put people off getting boosted and people are already nervous about getting their kids vaxxed, to be told it makes no difference when kids won't have three doses for months and months... people are just going to say why bother, I see it already.

I mean FF were shocking bad in the noughties but this current government are running them close as the most incompetent, unorganised crowd of fools that ever got into power.
Sorry bud but you need to pump the brakes now.
Whatcdo you think should be happening right now? You like Inna family that have all af the lurgy right? So ye all probably spread it, I have been out for meals and to bars in our common area many times over the while and no one is properly doing anything so shut then down.

They have only themselves to blame for refusing to obey the rules .


FF and FG both put aside the old issues to run this country in its hardest times since the emergency and I'd actually like you to back up your rhetoric.


Poibt at a country that tested positive at 0.1% yesterday as in 4000/4000000 and show me what you think the government could be doing better.
(17-12-2021, 10:27 PM)Butty Brennan Wrote: [ -> ]Just a thought too, but won't the new closing hours mean people will be going to meet up at the pub straight from work on an empty stomach and drinking faster because they have so little time before closing. It could get very messy.
Can't legislate for idiots. Rules need to be followed and pubs weren't doing that.
(17-12-2021, 10:16 PM)Butty Brennan Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-12-2021, 09:55 PM)ShaneU Wrote: [ -> ]The virus gets deadlier after 8pm, yer man on the ryanair flight told me.
The virus works the night shift and doesn't clock on until 8 Dodgy
Crowd of idiots we have in government, if they performed like they have done in any field of the private sector they would have been out on their ears with their P45 long ago.
  Worked as a bouncer and a taxi driver for years. People socialising before 8 pm and people socialising after 9pn even the same people are not the same people.

Rules would be out the window and insufficient security and clarity in hospitality mean sthat they have to close.


To all those saying houses parties please realise you will be the reason for the horrible checkpoints and 5 km limits 


Obey the fucking rules people we are trying to save irsih people's lives.
(17-12-2021, 07:35 PM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote: [ -> ]I feel for everyone who works in hospitality. It must be awful nerve wracking for them. Their livelihoods are in the hands of others.

It's hard to live in a country where there are restrictions on our freedoms even if they are things we don't do or partake in.
Yeah but it's the same as I have to wear a helmet riding the bike. Or a belt in the car. It's dear power washing people's brains off the road.
(17-12-2021, 07:06 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]Covid has some impressive magical qualities all the same. It doesn't spread in schools as the government insist the majority of cases are contracted outside school and it waits until 8 pm to infect adults.

It's time to live with this and stop the nonsense.
It clearly spreads in schools map open schools v increase in case 5-18 and it tracks perfect. Thing is we need schools because kids need to socialise to learn and to allow me to work out how to source fertio so I can feed people
(17-12-2021, 07:24 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]pantos starting at 3:30 are safe, but pantos starting at 6:30 have to be cancelled now due to omnicron

That's below your understanding k
(17-12-2021, 10:54 PM)Tigger Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-12-2021, 10:34 PM)Necro Wrote: [ -> ]Yep, it's all a bloody mess. Terrible governance. And they continue to downplay the role of the vaccine in all of this as well with added measures such as 5 days isolation for a close contact even if you're boosted, 10 days if you only have two doses (basically same as unvaxxed).

The government would want to be careful with their messaging because it's going to put people off getting boosted and people are already nervous about getting their kids vaxxed, to be told it makes no difference when kids won't have three doses for months and months... people are just going to say why bother, I see it already.

I mean FF were shocking bad in the noughties but this current government are running them close as the most incompetent, unorganised crowd of fools that ever got into power.
Sorry bud but you need to pump the brakes now.
Whatcdo you think should be happening right now? You like Inna family that have all af the lurgy right? So ye all probably spread it, I have been out for meals and to bars in our common area many times over the while and no one is properly doing anything so shut then down.

They have only themselves to blame for refusing to obey the rules .


FF and FG both put aside the old issues to run this country in its hardest times since the emergency and I'd actually like you to back up your rhetoric.


Poibt at a country that tested positive at 0.1% yesterday as in 4000/4000000 and show me what you think the government could be doing better.


Nope, just me, none of the others caught it actually.

And we all know that schools are currently the main vectors for transmission if they weren't doing their jiggery pokery act with contact tracing and pointing it at private households.

As per the latest data from HSPC, from week 26 to week 49 of 2021 social gatherings are responsible for just 3.1% of outbreaks. That's lower than even retail which has been open all along for obvious reasons (3.9%)


For last week, it was just 1.

The overall number of outbreaks notified in Week 49 increased by 25 compared to Week 48
2021
• There were five acute hospital outbreaks notified
• There were 13 nursing home outbreaks notified
• There were five community hospital/long-stay unit outbreaks notified
• There were 29 residential institution outbreaks notified
• There were 12 outbreaks associated with other healthcare services notified
• There were 37 outbreaks associated with schools notified
• There were nine outbreaks associated with childcare facilities notified
• There were three outbreaks associated with workplaces notified
• There was one religious/other ceremony related outbreak which included one confirmed
VOC Omicron case
• The remaining 50 outbreaks* included private houses (n=38), extended family (n=8), travel
(n=2), social gathering (n=1) and other (n=1)


https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coro...%20v.1.pdf

So yes I do think that NPHET are unfairly singling out hospitality whilst sticking their fingers in their ears about schools and saying 'La la la we can't hear you'
I think it's more a case of preemptively controlling those areas that can be controlled, can't do much about healthcare settings, schools are low priority too as they have to balance between illness and the educational benefits of being in school, can't control what people do at home. So that basically leaves hospitality, which is always extra busy this time of year, non-essential retail, workplaces... Something had to give somewhere.

That said, it still sucks, especially for those whose jobs and businesses rely on the extra boost at this time of year. I think we have to stop thinking about it as some kind of punishment or having fun ruined, it comes down to trying to keep people as safe and alive as possible.

All in my layman's opinion, of course.
(17-12-2021, 07:35 PM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote: [ -> ]I feel for everyone who works in hospitality. It must be awful nerve wracking for them. Their livelihoods are in the hands of others.

It's hard to live in a country where there are restrictions on our freedoms even if they are things we don't do or partake in.

They have been hit the most badly, always the first closed, restricted etc., yet how many cases come from that setting 

We will see loads coming into Ireland and leaving Ireland for Christmas

The schools also have many cases

I have seen more chatting in groups at supermarkets and shopping centres than in pubs 

Anyways take care everyone stay safe
(17-12-2021, 11:17 PM)Necro Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-12-2021, 10:54 PM)Tigger Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry bud but you need to pump the brakes now.
Whatcdo you think should be happening right now? You like Inna family that have all af the lurgy right? So ye all probably spread it, I have been out for meals and to bars in our common area many times over the while and no one is properly doing anything so shut then down.

They have only themselves to blame for refusing to obey the rules .


FF and FG both put aside the old issues to run this country in its hardest times since the emergency and I'd actually like you to back up your rhetoric.


Poibt at a country that tested positive at 0.1% yesterday as in 4000/4000000 and show me what you think the government could be doing better.


Nope, just me, none of the others caught it actually.

And we all know that schools are currently the main vectors for transmission if they weren't doing their jiggery pokery act with contact tracing and pointing it at private households.

As per the latest data from HSPC, from week 26 to week 49 of 2021 social gatherings are responsible for just 3.1% of outbreaks. That's lower than even retail which has been open all along for obvious reasons (3.9%)


For last week, it was just 1.

The overall number of outbreaks notified in Week 49 increased by 25 compared to Week 48
2021
• There were five acute hospital outbreaks notified
• There were 13 nursing home outbreaks notified
• There were five community hospital/long-stay unit outbreaks notified
• There were 29 residential institution outbreaks notified
• There were 12 outbreaks associated with other healthcare services notified
• There were 37 outbreaks associated with schools notified
• There were nine outbreaks associated with childcare facilities notified
• There were three outbreaks associated with workplaces notified
• There was one religious/other ceremony related outbreak which included one confirmed
VOC Omicron case
• The remaining 50 outbreaks* included private houses (n=38), extended family (n=8), travel
(n=2), social gathering (n=1) and other (n=1)


https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coro...%20v.1.pdf

So yes I do think that NPHET are unfairly singling out hospitality whilst sticking their fingers in their ears about schools and saying 'La la la we can't hear you'
First off thanks for your considerd reply

The cunt clearly spreads in schools map open schools v increase in case 5-18 and it tracks perfect. Thing is we need schools because kids need to socialise to learn and to allow me to work out how to source fertio so I can feed people

Schools are simply more important that hospital ity
(18-12-2021, 12:42 AM)Tigger Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-12-2021, 11:17 PM)Necro Wrote: [ -> ]Nope, just me, none of the others caught it actually.

And we all know that schools are currently the main vectors for transmission if they weren't doing their jiggery pokery act with contact tracing and pointing it at private households.

As per the latest data from HSPC, from week 26 to week 49 of 2021 social gatherings are responsible for just 3.1% of outbreaks. That's lower than even retail which has been open all along for obvious reasons (3.9%)


For last week, it was just 1.

The overall number of outbreaks notified in Week 49 increased by 25 compared to Week 48
2021
• There were five acute hospital outbreaks notified
• There were 13 nursing home outbreaks notified
• There were five community hospital/long-stay unit outbreaks notified
• There were 29 residential institution outbreaks notified
• There were 12 outbreaks associated with other healthcare services notified
• There were 37 outbreaks associated with schools notified
• There were nine outbreaks associated with childcare facilities notified
• There were three outbreaks associated with workplaces notified
• There was one religious/other ceremony related outbreak which included one confirmed
VOC Omicron case
• The remaining 50 outbreaks* included private houses (n=38), extended family (n=8), travel
(n=2), social gathering (n=1) and other (n=1)


https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coro...%20v.1.pdf

So yes I do think that NPHET are unfairly singling out hospitality whilst sticking their fingers in their ears about schools and saying 'La la la we can't hear you'
First off thanks for your considerd reply

The cunt clearly spreads in schools map open schools v increase in case 5-18 and it tracks perfect. Thing is we need schools because kids need to socialise to learn and to allow me to work out how to source fertio so I can feed people

Schools are simply more important that hospital ity
Also what do you think we should is
What country should we copy
Amd if it's not teh occupied countries of ni then there is no alternative here as far as I can see
(17-12-2021, 11:37 PM)nothing Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's more a case of preemptively controlling those areas that can be controlled, can't do much about healthcare settings, schools are low priority too as they have to balance between illness and the educational benefits of being in school, can't control what people do at home. So that basically leaves hospitality, which is always extra busy this time of year, non-essential retail, workplaces... Something had to give somewhere.

That said, it still sucks, especially for those whose jobs and businesses rely on the extra boost at this time of year. I think we have to stop thinking about it as some kind of punishment or having fun ruined, it comes down to trying to keep people as safe and alive as possible.

All in my layman's opinion, of course.
It absolutely isn't a punishment or some kind of weird agenda that the NPHET have. I've heard some say that they must hate pubs but I really really don't believe that. In times like these there will be people who are desperate to understand why all of this is happening and the push back against further curtailment of our lives.

More and more though I see us not being able to tolerate even one death from Covid, keeping others alive has become everything. There is no space for the bigger picture, for an independent thought. Instead it's the blunt tools of restrict and control and hope for the best.

Will an 8pm close of hospitality and cinemas etc really make much of a difference? If I go to a busy pub between 4 and 8pm am I less at risk than if I'm in a busy pub between 7 and 11pm? What will not being able to go to the cinema at 8pm achieve? Or kids going to the panto?

They feel like they have to do something of course so here they are while the country becomes a pale shadow of itself and for what?
(18-12-2021, 12:59 AM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-12-2021, 11:37 PM)nothing Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's more a case of preemptively controlling those areas that can be controlled, can't do much about healthcare settings, schools are low priority too as they have to balance between illness and the educational benefits of being in school, can't control what people do at home. So that basically leaves hospitality, which is always extra busy this time of year, non-essential retail, workplaces... Something had to give somewhere.

That said, it still sucks, especially for those whose jobs and businesses rely on the extra boost at this time of year. I think we have to stop thinking about it as some kind of punishment or having fun ruined, it comes down to trying to keep people as safe and alive as possible.

All in my layman's opinion, of course.
It absolutely isn't a punishment or some kind of weird agenda that the NPHET have. I've heard some say that they must hate pubs but I really really don't believe that. In times like these there will be people who are desperate to understand why all of this is happening and the push back against further curtailment of our lives.

More and more though I see us not being able to tolerate even one death from Covid, keeping others alive has become everything. There is no space for the bigger picture, for an independent thought. Instead it's the blunt tools of restrict and control and hope for the best.

Will an 8pm close of hospitality and cinemas etc really make much of a difference? If I go to a busy pub between 4 and 8pm am I less at risk than if I'm in a busy pub between 7 and 11pm? What will not being able to go to the cinema at 8pm achieve? Or kids going to the panto?

They feel like they have to do something of course so here they are while the country becomes a pale shadow of itself and for what?
If I decided to kill people I would be good at it, I've thought about it before if have to kill loads of randomesrs to ma km e sure o get the o no es I want without killing only t HH o no e that wou km D give leads to the cops.
So I reckon it would be like 800 peol I'd have to kill so as not to leave a trace .
So mu question is if I was going out killing people and a lockdown would slow me ta fuck down and I was gonna randomly kill 789 people and 11 that had annouded me f you ting the govt would shut down my areas of operations
Coa by the end of this year it will have killed 6 thousand people and it's just pubs 
Thw govt clearly live pubs they are raising the gostcof durikinh abs home to help pubs 
But pubs (unlike school). Are not nessicary and they are causing deat he s 



So fuck pubs pubs are closed now they should be thanking the fffg that they get to open at all all

As I've as aid before poibt me he given demonstrate peolenyah GG are doing better
Tldr Tigger gonna kill 800 people

Be good and stay off the road and might not be you
(17-12-2021, 11:03 PM)Tigger Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-12-2021, 07:24 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]pantos starting at 3:30 are safe, but pantos starting at 6:30 have to be cancelled now due to omnicron

That's below your understanding k

Not sure what you are getting at, this is straight from the 6 0 clock news.
Sammy sausage said that they have shows twice a day, one at 3:30 and one at 6:30, but no won't be anle to do the 6:30 one now.

If you have issue with this, take it up with sammy sausage or the 6 o clock news.
Kids shouldn't be allowed on long haul flights 

Or any flight
In M&S this evening for some last minute gift buying. Woman behind me in the queue discussing her dinner plans for tomorrow, if her PCR from earlier comes back positive they will have to cancel their table...
Why are you in Liffey Valley if you are waiting on a PCR?!?!?!
(22-12-2021, 11:00 PM)cee_jay Wrote: [ -> ]In M&S this evening for some last minute gift buying. Woman behind me in the queue discussing her dinner plans for tomorrow, if her PCR from earlier comes back positive they will have to cancel their table...
Why are you in Liffey Valley if you are waiting on a PCR?!?!?!

Ffs. Some people have no cop on at all.
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