The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

If you’ll excuse me but I’ve a mountain to climb. I will see you all at 9.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

She was saying she was.

horny i meant

[Frank the Tank]

Interesting choice by the GM for a seer if that is what Prada was.

Was Maeve a NRV or was whisperer a role do ye think?

Maeve was a hobbit

So the other hobbits knew who you were, but you didn't know Marve was a hobbit? 

Eddie is full of it. In my humble opinion

In my humble opinion, pot, meet kettle. 

I’ll move off Edward too. Rhoda should have enough votes in her so I’m gonna go Mick.

Explain this reasoning?

Because I think that it’s possible that himself and yerself are wolves who knew Betty was a lost cause as a lower tiered wolf. 

Rhoda will have the numbers for lynch and if she returns wolf you two are even more suspect to me.

Apart from the counter claim, this is the most suspicious thing you did all game. It makes NO sense. 

I think we should avoid speculating on potential characters roles in case we assist the wolves in making fake claims with them. 

I think isuldur (the guy who didn't throw the ring into the fire) is very unlikely to be in this game.

what’s his descendants name that is in the film? That’s who I’m thinking of. The moody sexy one

Ah look, the wolf buddies were teasing us on thread. 

But Pat and Magda were working on the same informaiton that we are. Only the wolves know who the villagers are. Are you saying, categorically, that all the HObbits knew who each other were from the outset?

Yes

i cant elaborate further than that. Those the rules.

See first post above.

[Frank the Tank]

Oops wrong again. You knew it was Maeve. I need to concentrate on one thing. I can't multi task

[Rhoda the Spinster]

At that stage I had made a big post about Ina and voted for her and I had been quizzed on being on a team with betty.
Betty the wolf had been lynched at this stage.
Ina was trusted and was just beow me in both lists.

Why would Magda and Pat have such trust in me?

I checked Ina. She is clear from my POV.
Edward also action tracked Ina. Clear.

You have a seer power @Frank the Tank ? Since when?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

But Pat and Magda were working on the same informaiton that we are. Only the wolves know who the villagers are. Are you saying, categorically, that all the HObbits knew who each other were from the outset?

Yes

i cant elaborate further than that. Those the rules.

William, on your spreadsheets, can you check whether any of the Hobbits we are aware of voted for one another and/or Benjamin at any stage. And also, if Benjamin voted for any of them at any stage, please

[William the Grave Robber]

Yes

i cant elaborate further than that. Those the rules.

William, on your spreadsheets, can you check whether any of the Hobbits we are aware of voted for one another and/or Benjamin at any stage. And also, if Benjamin voted for any of them at any stage, please

a hobbit never voted for another hobbit, or for benjamin.

benjamin actually didn't get a vote till last night.

[William the Grave Robber]

pat (known hobbit) voted for laura night 3

[Frank the Tank]

I checked Ina. She is clear from my POV.
Edward also action tracked Ina. Clear.

You have a seer power @Frank the Tank ? Since when?

I had a one time power. It wasn't a seer power, more an alignment check. I checked Ina night one. We discussed this on the thread on Wednesday I think.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

Does three not seem low in the case of 16 original players? I don't know really.
I mean the two we have killed (by default or otherwise) are not Sauruman nor Sauron. I don't know enough about LOTR- in my head Sauron was just the big eye thingy (it's been a while since I watched, and my son who read all the books is away), but I take it "he" was a character of sorts, not just a spirit/being. Therefore it would make sense that he features in some capacity. So Ben is Sauraman, let's say. And then is there a greater evil in Sauron?

I'll be out for a few hours from around half 4, this list was my honest reads at the time when there was very little to go on. This is what everyone jumped on, but look at the first paragraph.

It was my seventh post, Google my character with the number seven.

😂 


Did any of you Google as Laura asked?

She’s taking the P out of you lads and rock solid evidence like this is what you’re pinning your hopes on!

🤣🤣🤣

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I did google and it elicited nothing

[Frank the Tank]

I'll be out for a few hours from around half 4, this list was my honest reads at the time when there was very little to go on. This is what everyone jumped on, but look at the first paragraph.

It was my seventh post, Google my character with the number seven.

😂 


Did any of you Google as Laura asked?

She’s taking the P out of you lads and rock solid evidence like this is what you’re pinning your hopes on!

🤣🤣🤣

Again. Pot. Kettle.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

seven dwarves? hardly when she was pipping in here to say she was a hobbit...

[Rhoda the Spinster]

*popping

[Frank the Tank]

seven dwarves? hardly when she was pipping in here to say she was a hobbit...

7th member of the fellowship.

[Ina May the Midwife]

I'll be out for a few hours from around half 4, this list was my honest reads at the time when there was very little to go on. This is what everyone jumped on, but look at the first paragraph.

It was my seventh post, Google my character with the number seven.

😂 


Did any of you Google as Laura asked?

She’s taking the P out of you lads and rock solid evidence like this is what you’re pinning your hopes on!

🤣🤣🤣

So mocking the rest of the players rather than proving your claim is your plan then?

What else does the ring do Ben, come on now surely you can tell us what other fancy tricks it has

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

@William the Grave Robber Laura posted explaining what happened.

It's definitely ring connected anyways, the mods post even alluded to it



Initially I thought that it might be an auto power from Vinnie as captain of the Uruk-Hai protecting his leader, but based on the mod post I think the simplest explanation is that the ring randed the lynch onto someone voting Laura. Or possibly just amongst everyone else.

@Laura the Lace Mistress can you elaborate further?

One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

And I swear there’s a load of you that have been compromised and are now on the dark side. Some of you are not even attempting to look at both sides.

[Frank the Tank]

One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

If it is an action, the action would be carried out regardless of a wolf or villager being lynched. The action is worded "change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed", the votes don't matter. It is then RNG as to who of the wolves. 

I don't fully understand this either TBQH, however, on balance of probabilities, this by itself is not a smoking gun. The balance of probability points squarely at you.

[William the Grave Robber]

I did google and it elicited nothing

i got some results for scottie pippin, but he never wore the #7.

and another thing: How did Pippin and Merry contribute to the Fellowship?

7) Pippin saved Faramir II from being burned to death by his deranged father Denethor II. In doing so, he helped bring together Faramir and Éowyn whose marriage forged even closer ties of alliance between Gondor and Rohan.

https://www.quora.com/How-did-Pippin-and...%20King%20...

[Frank the Tank]

And I swear there’s a load of you that have been compromised and are now on the dark side. Some of you are not even attempting to look at both sides.

I can resist the power of the ring. I'll be grand.

[Ina May the Midwife]

And I swear there’s a load of you that have been compromised and are now on the dark side. Some of you are not even attempting to look at both sides.

Because your claim doesn't add up Ben. It's that simple. You're implying that all the hobbits knew each other. 4 villagers. As a solid voting block.

Answer this so, given you knew Frodo, Sam and Merry from the beginning. Why did you all not vote as a core block of villagers given you'd have absolute trust and confidence in their reads. Knowing they were also on the side of good.

Instead, you went off on a solo run three nights running voting for Mick instead of trusting your fellow hobbits. 

Your claim has more holes than the Titanic after it struck the iceberg mate

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

If it is an action, the action would be carried out regardless of a wolf or villager being lynched. The action is worded "change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed", the votes don't matter. It is then RNG as to who of the wolves. 

I don't fully understand this either TBQH, however, on balance of probabilities, this by itself is not a smoking gun. The balance of probability points squarely at you.

 
Yet no other ring bearer used this power until last night ?

[Frank the Tank]

If it is an action, the action would be carried out regardless of a wolf or villager being lynched. The action is worded "change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed", the votes don't matter. It is then RNG as to who of the wolves. 

I don't fully understand this either TBQH, however, on balance of probabilities, this by itself is not a smoking gun. The balance of probability points squarely at you.

 
Yet no other ring bearer used this power until last night ?

I trust it more than your claim that all the other hobbits knew each other. And that Vincent would vote for a fellow wolf when the vote was that close last night.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Ina would you please take the blinkers off

[Frank the Tank]

There are just too many things that aren't adding up in your story that can't be explained away

[Ina May the Midwife]

Ina would you please take the blinkers off

Answer my questions then.

What else can the ring do.

Why didn't you trust the other hobbits and vote with them, given you all knew each other.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Fair enough. No more I can do at this stage. The game is in your hand folks. My vote will remain on Laura.

[Frank the Tank]

Fair enough. No more I can do at this stage. The game is in your hand folks. My vote will remain on Laura.

Why won't you answer the question posed?

[Ina May the Midwife]

There is absolutely no way that Magda nor Pat wouldn't have used that hobbit info to form a village core. I refuse to believe they never once considered that they had a massive, massive power at lynch time and decided, nah.... We'll vote seperately with other unknown aligned players.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Ina would you please take the blinkers off

Answer my questions then.

What else can the ring do.

Why didn't you trust the other hobbits and vote with them, given you all knew each other.

Every player in this game has free will to vote for whoever we want. Why would we all vote the same when we didn’t know who the wolves were?

You want information regarding the ring to be put on the thread? Not gonna happen.

[William the Grave Robber]

whats more likely:




i think in all these scenarios, vincent voting for laura is entirely irrelevant (can someone check this for me, as i'm after confusing myself), so that fact should not play a role in making a decision.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Is there just one wolf left in your view @Benjamin the Alchemist
Is someone on here protecting Laura?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

@Laura the Lace Mistress If the Hobbits all knew one another as Ben claims, why did Pat vote for you?

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Is there just one wolf left in your view @Benjamin the Alchemist
Is someone on here protecting Laura?

 I honestly don’t know. Lynch Laura and we will find out.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Answer my questions then.

What else can the ring do.

Why didn't you trust the other hobbits and vote with them, given you all knew each other.

Every player in this game has free will to vote for whoever we want. Why would we all vote the same when we didn’t know who the wolves were?

You want information regarding the ring to be put on the thread? Not gonna happen.

Because that way you can guarantee the most suspect by other KNOWN villagers will likely be lynched. 

Remember, you are making the claim that 4 villagers knew each other right from the very beginning which meant the wolves were in the other 12 players

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Every player in this game has free will to vote for whoever we want. Why would we all vote the same when we didn’t know who the wolves were?

You want information regarding the ring to be put on the thread? Not gonna happen.

Because that way you can guarantee the most suspect by other KNOWN villagers will likely be lynched. 

Remember, you are making the claim that 4 villagers knew each other right from the very beginning which meant the wolves were in the other 12 players

Block voting would be used to protect the block. If you’re not in the block, you’re an unknown.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

why did Pat vote for Laura then?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

if you are voting in a block @Benjamin the Alchemist

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

why did Pat vote for Laura then?

D1 vote on you. Needed resolving.