The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[Ina May the Midwife]

@Ina May the Midwife you would probably know this.. alignment checks, does SK show differently or is it just good v bad typically?

If it's alignment then normally just good or bad.


The fact Prada specifically brought up a post as her whisper in the wind if she died though makes me think she got role as investigator?

[Pat the Baker]

Edward voted for Betty yesterday though

Also going from the OP actions are at night

Morning all, just to clarify I did declare my vote on thread just wasn't picked up for the listing. I went William as as per my shoot in the peek/shoot/protect game. He keeps disappearing and then reappears with his spreadsheets trying to look helpful.

@Pat the Baker - I see you realised he meant he could be SK but in relation to your point re night actions - Prada's post where she names him as possible SK was after lynch so they could have gotten their peek by then

Yeah the wording prada used is fairly definitive

[Rhoda the Spinster]

i like rhoda for lycnh tonight based on wagonomics. betty could have self-presed by voting her. possibly a more powerful wolf.

we could also go edward if elrond peeked him. presume investigator is seer and it makes sense that would be elrond's role.

Im not sure investigator means seer? Anyone else have a view on that

Interesting choice by the GM for a seer if that is what Prada was.

Was Maeve a NRV or was whisperer a role do ye think?

[Ina May the Midwife]

Rhoda, Mick, William, Frank, Edward

Edward SK
Posts enough to be sage but safe enough to not be noticed.

2 wolves in the other 4
Did Rhoda and Betty think they could get people onboard Wendy wagon. Me thinks yes

Watch the quiet ones. Throwaway votes as they did not want to impact a wagon against Betty and Rhoda

Won't be on thread until after munch so use this as a whisper in the wind if my presence is no longer in physical form

So she specifically names Edward as SK here as has been pointed out already. The rest is her thoughts but the specific naming of Edward stands out alongside the last paragraph.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Im not sure investigator means seer? Anyone else have a view on that

Interesting choice by the GM for a seer if that is what Prada was.

Was Maeve a NRV or was whisperer a role do ye think?

Maeve was a hobbit

[Pat the Baker]

Im not sure investigator means seer? Anyone else have a view on that

Interesting choice by the GM for a seer if that is what Prada was.

Was Maeve a NRV or was whisperer a role do ye think?

I've never seen whisperer as a role in a game before.. thats not to say is isn't one here

[Ina May the Midwife]

Unless there's a vig shot on Edward I'd be leaning lynching him tonight, cuts the kill rate in half

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I don't know what that means in this context Benjamin. Why add whisperer?

[Magda the Maid]

@Ina May the Midwife you would probably know this.. alignment checks, does SK show differently or is it just good v bad typically?

If it's alignment then normally just good or bad.


The fact Prada specifically brought up a post as her whisper in the wind if she died though makes me think she got role as investigator?

Sound. As Prada said it outright we should be probably lynching Edward then tonight. There is still a higher chance that the SK would hit a villager with the kill. if we take them out we would have strenght in numbers to go after the remaining wolves, however many that is. 

We leave Eddie to the side then and focus on the rest with discussions today. Do you have any other suspects?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Wendy can you please come on and explain your Betty switch reasoning.

[Ina May the Midwife]

If it's alignment then normally just good or bad.


The fact Prada specifically brought up a post as her whisper in the wind if she died though makes me think she got role as investigator?

Sound. As Prada said it outright we should be probably lynching Edward then tonight. There is still a higher chance that the SK would hit a villager with the kill. if we take them out we would have strenght in numbers to go after the remaining wolves, however many that is. 

We leave Eddie to the side then and focus on the rest with discussions today. Do you have any other suspects?

I want to look at the votes again and see where the other wolves might be. Ignoring Rhoda for the moment, there would still definitely be 1 wolf if not 2 even if she's evil.

Given Betty didn't even self pres I reckon they might be in the single voters but I want to look at it again to be sure

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

I’d like to talk about singular voters, of which I am one. Would there be a wolf voting wolf possibility on a player getting no heat?

[Magda the Maid]

I don't know what that means in this context Benjamin. Why add whisperer?

Its quite possible that the hobbits are not just hobbits but have other roles to play also. No idea what a Whisperer is though

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I'm having another Dory moment. Did it say about corruption in the op? if the ring corrupts people, is it possible that it could make good folk temporarily bad? Not just wolf hiding among us but also someone being bad despite not wanting to.
There is definitely more to this game than meets the eye. There has to be
Right, that's my wisdom for now.

[Pat the Baker]

I’d like to talk about singular voters, of which I am one. Would there be a wolf voting wolf possibility on a player getting no heat?

Its definitely possible, but its WIFOM at this stage

You, mick, vern, Frank, William... let's get reasons for why they voted where they did

[Edward the Barber]

At the risk that someone might do a leggy on me, please hold fire. I'm a villager, but not just any villager. I have information I can provide

[Ina May the Midwife]

I’d like to talk about singular voters, of which I am one. Would there be a wolf voting wolf possibility on a player getting no heat?

Frank voting Mick perhaps, Mick had zero heat.

You voted me. I know I'm not a wolf so that didn't happen there.

Mick voted William but William had been getting a good bit of heat through the day from Magda and Pat. I think Magda actually moved her vote to Rhoda from there but she'll clarify.

Vernon voted Pat. That was a fairly loud argument between the two of them. I'm suss of Vernon for other reasons though, not the vote. Like Betty their village energy just feels off and they've gone AWOL since the lynch.

William voted Prada, that's obviously not W/W


Not sure they'd have voted each other though, based on Betty's vote they look quite risk-averse as a team


Vinnie voted Edward alongside Prada, he's not a single voter per se but he can still be a wolf if Eddie flips SK

[Magda the Maid]

I’d like to talk about singular voters, of which I am one. Would there be a wolf voting wolf possibility on a player getting no heat?

Frank voting Mick perhaps, Mick had zero heat.

You voted me. I know I'm not a wolf so that didn't happen there.

Mick voted William but William had been getting a good bit of heat through the day from Magda and Pat. I think Magda actually moved her vote to Rhoda from there but she'll clarify.

Vernon voted Pat. That was a fairly loud argument between the two of them. I'm suss of Vernon for other reasons though, not the vote. Like Betty their village energy just feels off and they've gone AWOL since the lynch.

William voted Prada, that's obviously not W/W


Not sure they'd have voted each other though, based on Betty's vote they look quite risk-averse as a team


Vinnie voted Edward alongside Prada, he's not a single voter per se but he can still be a wolf if Eddie flips SK

Frank probing Laura about the Betty info was interesting to me at the time. But could that be a wolf buddy now trying to get Laura to point to the post that indicates Betty looks good.

[Magda the Maid]

Yeah I was on William all day, and switched to Rhoda because of the post that I highlighted. I thought the post was incredibly Wolfy, and tbf the posts since haven't exactly changed my mind on that

[Pat the Baker]

At the risk that someone might do a leggy on me, please hold fire. I'm a villager, but not just any villager. I have information I can provide

Who is this leggy you speak of!?

Safe to say, you have our attention

[Ina May the Midwife]

Frank voting Mick perhaps, Mick had zero heat.

You voted me. I know I'm not a wolf so that didn't happen there.

Mick voted William but William had been getting a good bit of heat through the day from Magda and Pat. I think Magda actually moved her vote to Rhoda from there but she'll clarify.

Vernon voted Pat. That was a fairly loud argument between the two of them. I'm suss of Vernon for other reasons though, not the vote. Like Betty their village energy just feels off and they've gone AWOL since the lynch.

William voted Prada, that's obviously not W/W


Not sure they'd have voted each other though, based on Betty's vote they look quite risk-averse as a team


Vinnie voted Edward alongside Prada, he's not a single voter per se but he can still be a wolf if Eddie flips SK

Frank probing Laura about the Betty info was interesting to me at the time. But could that be a wolf buddy now trying to get Laura to point to the post that indicates Betty looks good.

Was that before or after lynch? Off I go to read Frank's ISO now so

[Mick the Drunk]

At the risk that someone might do a leggy on me, please hold fire. I'm a villager, but not just any villager. I have information I can provide

Be careful with your mention of things outside here due to the no meta gaming! If you have info we don't want to lose you based on this.

[Frank the Tank]

Im not sure investigator means seer? Anyone else have a view on that

Interesting choice by the GM for a seer if that is what Prada was.

Was Maeve a NRV or was whisperer a role do ye think?

Investigator is a different role to see. 
2 separate roles. 

At the risk that someone might do a leggy on me, please hold fire. I'm a villager, but not just any villager. I have information I can provide

Why don't you provide it then?

I’d like to talk about singular voters, of which I am one. Would there be a wolf voting wolf possibility on a player getting no heat?

Frank voting Mick perhaps, Mick had zero heat.

You voted me. I know I'm not a wolf so that didn't happen there.

Mick voted William but William had been getting a good bit of heat through the day from Magda and Pat. I think Magda actually moved her vote to Rhoda from there but she'll clarify.

Vernon voted Pat. That was a fairly loud argument between the two of them. I'm suss of Vernon for other reasons though, not the vote. Like Betty their village energy just feels off and they've gone AWOL since the lynch.

William voted Prada, that's obviously not W/W


Not sure they'd have voted each other though, based on Betty's vote they look quite risk-averse as a team


Vinnie voted Edward alongside Prada, he's not a single voter per se but he can still be a wolf if Eddie flips SK

I have my reasons on thread. I had Mick and Laura on a FFA. I voted Mick because he has done absolutely nothing all game, and has been very non committal in all his posts to date. Have a read back. 

Frank voting Mick perhaps, Mick had zero heat.

You voted me. I know I'm not a wolf so that didn't happen there.

Mick voted William but William had been getting a good bit of heat through the day from Magda and Pat. I think Magda actually moved her vote to Rhoda from there but she'll clarify.

Vernon voted Pat. That was a fairly loud argument between the two of them. I'm suss of Vernon for other reasons though, not the vote. Like Betty their village energy just feels off and they've gone AWOL since the lynch.

William voted Prada, that's obviously not W/W


Not sure they'd have voted each other though, based on Betty's vote they look quite risk-averse as a team


Vinnie voted Edward alongside Prada, he's not a single voter per se but he can still be a wolf if Eddie flips SK

Frank probing Laura about the Betty info was interesting to me at the time. But could that be a wolf buddy now trying to get Laura to point to the post that indicates Betty looks good.

I didn't 'probe" I asked. As I said, I found the list very suss. If you look at our interactions, it was more about Benjamin and Vernon, not Betty. The Betty one was because I felt she was echoing another poster and hadn't seen anything due to some of her other statements on posters which didn't add up.

Look at my posts, it is clear I'm not wolf or Gollum.

[Wendy the Wench]

I voted about 2 hours before deadline. Great result but I don't want any plaudits, it was a complete fluke on my part, I wasn't here much to have any read on anyone

How many of us revealed on thread who we were voting for? Was it common knowledge that Betty was up? If so then there could be wolves in the votes for the other high voted player trying to save Betty

There were declared votes but there wasn't really a consensus at all. In fact Rhoda would have probably been lynched but for Maeve's vote and Wendy switching last minute. Magda had an 8.58 vote on Rhoda

@Wendy the Wench who did you switch off last min to move onto Betty?

Switched of edward onto betty. 9:59:50

[Wendy the Wench]

8:59:50 typo

[Ina May the Midwife]

Dunno, Frank and Laura don't seem W/W from Frank's ISO. He was on her most of the day over her reads list.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

why though?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Why though @Wendy the Wench

@Edward the Barber Same can be said of others amonsgt our group.

[Frank the Tank]

Dunno, Frank and Laura don't seem W/W from Frank's ISO. He was on her most of the day over her reads list.

I still find the reads list very suss.
I was convinced Betty was also village due to the same post Laura quoted. It was a very in obvious nod to a role, which is why I didn't think calling it out among the other reads would be an issue.
On balance when it came to voting, I felt Mick is flying way below the radar, and voted there instead due to his posts.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

At the risk that someone might do a leggy on me, please hold fire. I'm a villager, but not just any villager. I have information I can provide

Be careful with your mention of things outside here due to the no meta gaming! If you have info we don't want to lose you based on this.

Why would you put such a target on your back @Edward the Barber ? Those of us in the Fellowship would be wise to be more sage about putting this information out there!

[Ina May the Midwife]

There were declared votes but there wasn't really a consensus at all. In fact Rhoda would have probably been lynched but for Maeve's vote and Wendy switching last minute. Magda had an 8.58 vote on Rhoda

@Wendy the Wench who did you switch off last min to move onto Betty?

Switched of edward onto betty. 9:59:50

Yeah I thought that was the case but just wanted to check.

So before your switch we had a three way tie for the top wagon with

Rhoda - Pat, Laura, Magda*
Betty - Ina, Edward, Maeve
Edward - Vincent, Prada, Wendy

*Magda had last vote cast before your switch so Rhoda would have gone

[Magda the Maid]

Frank probing Laura about the Betty info was interesting to me at the time. But could that be a wolf buddy now trying to get Laura to point to the post that indicates Betty looks good.

I didn't 'probe" I asked. As I said, I found the list very suss. If you look at our interactions, it was more about Benjamin and Vernon, not Betty. The Betty one was because I felt she was echoing another poster and hadn't seen anything due to some of her other statements on posters which didn't add up.

Look at my posts, it is clear I'm not wolf or Gollum.

Actually now that i think of it, that post that laura put up as the "evidence" was weak as fuck..

I'm just exploring all options Frank and taking your reply at face value, i do agree that Laura's read list was all over the place somewhat.

[Wendy the Wench]

Is there anything to be read into players voting for each other? I.e. Wednesday for Betty and Berry for Wendy

What do you mean. Betty was gunning for me, trying to rally support. I was the counter wagon to themselves. They probably thought they had more support than they actually got. betty & rhoda.
If I had of stayed on ed, then there was a three way tie, of betty, rhoda, edward.
My vote was not new on edward, think it was about 20 minutes old or so, would need to read back the thread to be precise.
In that case, rhoda would have been lynched? the two minute from end vote from magda would have sealed that.
@Magda the Maid is who i'd like to give some explaining.

Wolves are killing the 4 / 3 voters who killed the wolf. If there was a wolf there, they would not be killing into the 4 /3.
Leave ed for the wolves, he is there problem, and they will kill one or ed me or ina next. Why make there job easier?

[Wendy the Wench]

Anyways we can chat about me, if Rhoda flips village or SK, then ye will see, and you can all focus on the other 2 on that wagon, if she is Vil or SK.

Sounds good, my vote is going in on you now.
Happy to hear chat on why it should be somebody else, anybody else, and why.
Not interested in any self, i'm villager, or you're making a mistake bull.
Your method of moving my vote is to find me a better target. If i agree, my vote will move.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Is there anything to be read into players voting for each other? I.e. Wednesday for Betty and Berry for Wendy

What do you mean. Betty was gunning for me, trying to rally support. I was the counter wagon to themselves. They probably thought they had more support than they actually got. betty & rhoda.
If I had of stayed on ed, then there was a three way tie, of betty, rhoda, edward.
My vote was not new on edward, think it was about 20 minutes old or so, would need to read back the thread to be precise.
In that case, rhoda would have been lynched?  the two minute from end vote from magda would have sealed that.
@Magda the Maid is who i'd like to give some explaining.

Wolves are killing the 4 / 3 voters who killed the wolf. If there was a wolf there, they would not be killing into the 4 /3.
Leave ed for the wolves, he is there problem, and they will kill one or ed me or ina next. Why make there job easier?

Prada has named Eddie as SK though in a post they wanted noted in case they died at munch. 

Kill Eddie, halve the kill rate if Prada's post is right

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Prada must have had good reason to vote you @Edward the Barber

[Wendy the Wench]

Wendy can you please come on and explain your Betty switch reasoning.

I thought betty had a higher chance of flipping compared to ed, and i wanted my pick to flip.

[William the Grave Robber]

At the risk that someone might do a leggy on me, please hold fire. I'm a villager, but not just any villager. I have information I can provide

right, you're claiming a role. fine.

i dont believe you. something with the wording just aint right. 

but there is plenty of time left in the day.

[William the Grave Robber]

Be careful with your mention of things outside here due to the no meta gaming! If you have info we don't want to lose you based on this.

Why would you put such a target on your back @Edward the Barber  ? Those of us in the Fellowship would be wise to be more sage about putting this information out there!

to be fair, when the investigator names him as SK you need to come out.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Yeah @Edward the Barber if you have information best to spill now before I sound the horn of Gondor about your claim to be a villager

ie. call it bullspit