(17-10-2025, 04:36 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: She was saying she was.

(14-10-2025, 10:46 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(14-10-2025, 10:43 AM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Interesting choice by the GM for a seer if that is what Prada was.

Was Maeve a NRV or was whisperer a role do ye think?

Maeve was a hobbit

(14-10-2025, 05:04 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Eddie is full of it. In my humble opinion

(14-10-2025, 08:40 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’ll move off Edward too. Rhoda should have enough votes in her so I’m gonna go Mick.

(14-10-2025, 08:51 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(14-10-2025, 08:42 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: Explain this reasoning?

Because I think that it’s possible that himself and yerself are wolves who knew Betty was a lost cause as a lower tiered wolf. 

Rhoda will have the numbers for lynch and if she returns wolf you two are even more suspect to me.

(14-10-2025, 08:54 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(14-10-2025, 08:51 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: I think we should avoid speculating on potential characters roles in case we assist the wolves in making fake claims with them. 

I think isuldur (the guy who didn't throw the ring into the fire) is very unlikely to be in this game.

what’s his descendants name that is in the film? That’s who I’m thinking of. The moody sexy one

(17-10-2025, 04:48 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 04:31 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: But Pat and Magda were working on the same informaiton that we are. Only the wolves know who the villagers are. Are you saying, categorically, that all the HObbits knew who each other were from the outset?

Yes

i cant elaborate further than that. Those the rules.

(17-10-2025, 04:28 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 04:25 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: At that stage I had made a big post about Ina and voted for her and I had been quizzed on being on a team with betty.
Betty the wolf had been lynched at this stage.
Ina was trusted and was just beow me in both lists.

Why would Magda and Pat have such trust in me?

I checked Ina. She is clear from my POV.
Edward also action tracked Ina. Clear.

(17-10-2025, 04:48 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 04:31 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: But Pat and Magda were working on the same informaiton that we are. Only the wolves know who the villagers are. Are you saying, categorically, that all the HObbits knew who each other were from the outset?

Yes

i cant elaborate further than that. Those the rules.

(17-10-2025, 05:09 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 04:48 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Yes

i cant elaborate further than that. Those the rules.

William, on your spreadsheets, can you check whether any of the Hobbits we are aware of voted for one another and/or Benjamin at any stage. And also, if Benjamin voted for any of them at any stage, please

(17-10-2025, 05:06 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 04:28 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: I checked Ina. She is clear from my POV.
Edward also action tracked Ina. Clear.

You have a seer power @Frank the Tank ? Since when?

(17-10-2025, 04:13 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 03:39 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

(17-10-2025, 02:18 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Does three not seem low in the case of 16 original players? I don't know really.
I mean the two we have killed (by default or otherwise) are not Sauruman nor Sauron. I don't know enough about LOTR- in my head Sauron was just the big eye thingy (it's been a while since I watched, and my son who read all the books is away), but I take it "he" was a character of sorts, not just a spirit/being. Therefore it would make sense that he features in some capacity. So Ben is Sauraman, let's say. And then is there a greater evil in Sauron?

I'll be out for a few hours from around half 4, this list was my honest reads at the time when there was very little to go on. This is what everyone jumped on, but look at the first paragraph.

It was my seventh post, Google my character with the number seven.

(17-10-2025, 05:59 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 04:13 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: I'll be out for a few hours from around half 4, this list was my honest reads at the time when there was very little to go on. This is what everyone jumped on, but look at the first paragraph.

It was my seventh post, Google my character with the number seven.

😂 


Did any of you Google as Laura asked?

She’s taking the P out of you lads and rock solid evidence like this is what you’re pinning your hopes on!

🤣🤣🤣

(17-10-2025, 06:07 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: seven dwarves? hardly when she was pipping in here to say she was a hobbit...

(17-10-2025, 05:59 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 04:13 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: I'll be out for a few hours from around half 4, this list was my honest reads at the time when there was very little to go on. This is what everyone jumped on, but look at the first paragraph.

It was my seventh post, Google my character with the number seven.

😂 


Did any of you Google as Laura asked?

She’s taking the P out of you lads and rock solid evidence like this is what you’re pinning your hopes on!

🤣🤣🤣

(17-10-2025, 01:35 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 10:31 AM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: @William the Grave Robber Laura posted explaining what happened.

It's definitely ring connected anyways, the mods post even alluded to it



Initially I thought that it might be an auto power from Vinnie as captain of the Uruk-Hai protecting his leader, but based on the mod post I think the simplest explanation is that the ring randed the lynch onto someone voting Laura. Or possibly just amongst everyone else.

@Laura the Lace Mistress can you elaborate further?

One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

(17-10-2025, 06:12 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 01:35 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

(17-10-2025, 06:04 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: I did google and it elicited nothing

(17-10-2025, 06:16 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: And I swear there’s a load of you that have been compromised and are now on the dark side. Some of you are not even attempting to look at both sides.

(17-10-2025, 06:16 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: And I swear there’s a load of you that have been compromised and are now on the dark side. Some of you are not even attempting to look at both sides.

(17-10-2025, 06:17 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 06:12 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

If it is an action, the action would be carried out regardless of a wolf or villager being lynched. The action is worded "change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed", the votes don't matter. It is then RNG as to who of the wolves. 

I don't fully understand this either TBQH, however, on balance of probabilities, this by itself is not a smoking gun. The balance of probability points squarely at you.

(17-10-2025, 06:21 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 06:17 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: If it is an action, the action would be carried out regardless of a wolf or villager being lynched. The action is worded "change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed", the votes don't matter. It is then RNG as to who of the wolves. 

I don't fully understand this either TBQH, however, on balance of probabilities, this by itself is not a smoking gun. The balance of probability points squarely at you.

 
Yet no other ring bearer used this power until last night ?

(17-10-2025, 06:24 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Ina would you please take the blinkers off

(17-10-2025, 06:26 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Fair enough. No more I can do at this stage. The game is in your hand folks. My vote will remain on Laura.

(17-10-2025, 06:26 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 06:24 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Ina would you please take the blinkers off

Answer my questions then.

What else can the ring do.

Why didn't you trust the other hobbits and vote with them, given you all knew each other.

(17-10-2025, 06:32 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Is there just one wolf left in your view @Benjamin the Alchemist
Is someone on here protecting Laura?

(17-10-2025, 06:30 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 06:26 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: Answer my questions then.

What else can the ring do.

Why didn't you trust the other hobbits and vote with them, given you all knew each other.

Every player in this game has free will to vote for whoever we want. Why would we all vote the same when we didn’t know who the wolves were?

You want information regarding the ring to be put on the thread? Not gonna happen.

(17-10-2025, 06:37 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(17-10-2025, 06:30 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Every player in this game has free will to vote for whoever we want. Why would we all vote the same when we didn’t know who the wolves were?

You want information regarding the ring to be put on the thread? Not gonna happen.

Because that way you can guarantee the most suspect by other KNOWN villagers will likely be lynched. 

Remember, you are making the claim that 4 villagers knew each other right from the very beginning which meant the wolves were in the other 12 players

(17-10-2025, 06:45 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: why did Pat vote for Laura then?