A sheep, a werewolf and a walrus walk into a bar.

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]I'll answer in the morning if I'm still in the game, I just said I'd won one to stop a false claim.

How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.

This.

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]I'll answer in the morning if I'm still in the game, I just said I'd won one to stop a false claim.

How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.

Given we don't know the number, or content, of prizes, @Friar Tuck this is not helpful

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]I'll answer in the morning if I'm still in the game, I just said I'd won one to stop a false claim.

How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.

Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.

(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.

Given we don't know the number, or content, of prizes, @Friar Tuck this is not helpful

Well we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.

(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.

Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.

You could have then known they were a wolf

(17-01-2023, 07:45 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.

You could have then known they were a wolf

If I'd kept quiet and another poster claimed to have won one and I then disputed who would you believe?

(17-01-2023, 07:46 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:45 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]You could have then known they were a wolf

If I'd kept quiet and another poster claimed to have won one and I then disputed who would you believe?

Who is the other poster

(17-01-2023, 07:44 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]Given we don't know the number, or content, of prizes, @Friar Tuck this is not helpful

Well we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.

Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage

(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.

Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.

Do you think that by falsely saying that you won a prize, it would somehow stop a wolf from getting a prize they won? I am still not following how this is supposed to work.

(17-01-2023, 07:48 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:44 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]Well we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.

Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage

Interestingly he is now backing up the countess 
This I think suggests she is telling the truth and one of friar Dora or I should be banished

(17-01-2023, 07:48 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:46 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]If I'd kept quiet and another poster claimed to have won one and I then disputed who would you believe?

Who is the other poster

Any other player.

(17-01-2023, 07:48 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:44 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]Well we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.

Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage

Yes, 2 claimed. If there was only 1 claimed today it would give another poster the option to lie.

I'm between Edward and frier. I've already given my reasons for Edward. I know I might be tunnelling here but I can't shake the feeling they are a traitor

Frier was on my radar more than dora already this morning and I haven't seen anything from dora to move her ahead of frier. Frier never clarified my question about why they mixed up edward and lily yesterday when referring to the game.This prize claim also seems bizarre

I still think it would be a very balls out play from countess to make that prize claim along with the post I mentioned earlier from last night's roundtable

(17-01-2023, 07:50 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.

Do you think that by falsely saying that you won a prize, it would somehow stop a wolf from getting a prize they won? I am still not following how this is supposed to work.

I'm not falsely claiming to have one. I posted to stop a wolf from falsely claiming.

(17-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:23 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]Is one of the prizes another shield @Zeena Warrior Princess  @Friar Tuck

I'll answer in the morning if I'm still in the game, I just said I'd won one to stop a false claim.

Yours is a false claim @Friar Tuck you have put a target on yourself now

(17-01-2023, 07:50 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:48 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage

Interestingly he is now backing up the countess 
This I think suggests she is telling the truth and one of friar Dora or I should be banished

I now think there were 2 prizes yesterday, but I don't know if Countess was honest about what she won.

@Necro I will take whatever number is left

(17-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:23 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]Is one of the prizes another shield @Zeena Warrior Princess  @Friar Tuck

I think it is to the benefit of the village to know, yes I have won another shield which I can use on anyone

Even yourself again?

(17-01-2023, 07:46 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:45 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]You could have then known they were a wolf

If I'd kept quiet and another poster claimed to have won one and I then disputed who would you believe?

Then we'd have a classic 1 for 1.
That would be perfect.

(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:46 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]If I'd kept quiet and another poster claimed to have won one and I then disputed who would you believe?

Then we'd have a classic 1 for 1.
That would be perfect.

But there's already a question mark over 4 of us. Adding in 1 more means there's a chance 4 village are banished before you find the 1.

@Friar Tuck can you confirm that you believe that countess reciverdo the prize yesterday that she claims she did

(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]If it is similar to countesses and can help the village it might be better to tell now so we can pick who votes where.

By hiding it you might look wolfy, waiting to talk to your mates over the witching hours to decide what to tell us in the morning.

It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.

Well thats what I've won. If you are village and there is a murder in the morning then you are unlikely to get the info to us. 

Of course I could give you the shield if I believe you are village

(17-01-2023, 08:00 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]@Friar Tuck can you confirm that you believe that countess reciverdo the prize yesterday that she claims she did

I believe now that she may have won a prize, but I don't know if it's what she claimed.

(17-01-2023, 08:01 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.

Well thats what I've won. If you are village and there is a murder in the morning then you are unlikely to get the info to us. 

Of course I could give you the shield if I believe you are village

That would depend on you being village though, wouldn't it?

(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is to the benefit of the village to know, yes I have won another shield which I can use on anyone

Even yourself again?

What are you doing 
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight 
More instruction

(17-01-2023, 08:02 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 08:00 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]@Friar Tuck can you confirm that you believe that countess reciverdo the prize yesterday that she claims she did

I believe now that she may have won a prize, but I don't know if it's what she claimed.

You said your prize is similar 
If it's similar then she hardly made it up.
Whats your prize exactly

(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is to the benefit of the village to know, yes I have won another shield which I can use on anyone

Even yourself again?

Why would a villager ask this, if I was to say no I would likely be dead in the morning.

Of course I can use it on myself

(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]If it is similar to countesses and can help the village it might be better to tell now so we can pick who votes where.

By hiding it you might look wolfy, waiting to talk to your mates over the witching hours to decide what to tell us in the morning.

It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.

@Edward the Barber I didn't say it was similar.

(17-01-2023, 08:05 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.

@Edward the Barber I didn't say it was similar.

So what is it

May I ask who voted Lily and Edward last night?

I still think Edward is a Traitor, his behaviour today has done nothing to persaude me otherwise, some of it has reinforced that opinion.

As to everyone else, I'm somewhat suspicious of Countess, Friar, and to a lesser extent Dora. But if Edward is a Traitor, then only 1 of those can be, and if push came to shove, I'd be leaning towards Friar. 

I'm neutral on Amy, Moe, Gordon and Weyland right now. 

I'm leaning Faithful for Zeena. 

Obviously I have myself Faithful, I wouldn't have thought I needed to state that, but so no one can misread and think otherwise. Sigh. 

Players - Amy, Countess, Dora, Edward, Friar, Gordon, Moe, William, Weyland, Zeena (mick, lilly)

(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 08:01 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]Well thats what I've won. If you are village and there is a murder in the morning then you are unlikely to get the info to us. 

Of course I could give you the shield if I believe you are village

That would depend on you being village though, wouldn't it?

It would but Im still the only player to claim to have used a shield and someone was shielded last night.

(17-01-2023, 08:08 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 08:05 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]@Edward the Barber I didn't say it was similar.

So what is it

Seriously? You accuse Amy of instruction and now this.

I don't think we need to know what it is. The claim-to-prevent-a-false-claim thing makes no sense to me. If he has won a prize, we can deduce that it's not a shield, and he says it's not the same as mine,. The fact that there were two different prizes today should lend a little weight to my result, and also goes some way towards confirming Zeena as the sole shield-holder last night, and hence the traitor target, no matter how suboptimal that seems.

(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]Even yourself again?

What are you doing 
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight 
More instruction

I'm dubious of the same person getting the same prize again

(17-01-2023, 08:09 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]May I ask who voted Lily and Edward last night?

Lilly (3): Friar[98], Dora[105], Edward[151]
Edward (3): Moe[107] , Weyland[114], William[138]
William (2): Zeena[104], Gordon[133]
Weyland (1): Lilly[96]
Dora (1): Countess[126]

Non-voters (1): Amy

Ok so is the consensus now that we can take Friar at his word and I will protect him tonight?

(17-01-2023, 08:11 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think we need to know what it is. The claim-to-prevent-a-false-claim thing makes no sense to me. If he has won a prize, we can deduce that it's not a shield, and he says it's not the same as mine,. The fact that there were two different prizes today should lend a little weight to my result, and also goes some way towards confirming Zeena as the sole shield-holder last night, and hence the traitor target, no matter how suboptimal that seems.

There were 2 different prizes yesterday according to your claim? Only 1 of them changed today which is why I'm dubious of your claim.

(17-01-2023, 08:12 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]What are you doing 
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight 
More instruction

I'm dubious of the same person getting the same prize again

Randomization has no memory, the chances of her winning the same prize today were the same as yesterday, but maybe should should go out and buy a euromillions ticket.

(17-01-2023, 08:12 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]What are you doing 
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight 
More instruction

I'm dubious of the same person getting the same prize again

There's a 1 in 5 chance, it's not that absurd.