A sheep, a werewolf and a walrus walk into a bar.

(16-01-2023, 08:03 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:01 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]how am i a traiutor>?

I've already explained my thoughts on that.

ok well you are too tunnelly to be a wolf
tttbaw lol


lets kiull wetland

(16-01-2023, 07:56 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 07:53 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]A "brave" Traitor isn't beyond the realms of possiblity, you openly admit it was a suss post, yet you're attacking my lean because I also think it was suss?!

do you feel attacked? I'm sorry isuppose its how fishies feel when the hook goes in

Attacked? No, not at all, I'm not the one backtracking and making up narratives.

(16-01-2023, 08:01 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 07:53 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]I have won a prize, and I dont think Im the only one

what did you win?

A shield

(16-01-2023, 08:05 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:03 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]I've already explained my thoughts on that.

ok well you are too tunnelly to be a wolf
tttbaw lol


lets kiull wetland

 
Ok... But he's on the winning team and could be protected from Banishment/Murder?

Lily , what ddi you mean when you called me a Boomer?

My reads from earlier on today haven't changed too much, Edward seemed a bit more suspicious after he doubled down on not being bothered by doing the task cause it was boring even though they strongly hinted earlier they were bad at them

Edward, lily or weyland for me

(16-01-2023, 07:19 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]For me, it's between 3 tonight. Amy is MIA and thus useless to us as a Faithful. Gordan and Edward seem most traitorous to me.

Quote:#114
Today, 06:10 PM
Post Counts (as of post #104)

Amy the Singer - 0
Countess Markievicz - 2
Dora the Explorer - 5
Edward the Barber - 17
Friar Tuck - 5
Gordon the Cook - 17
Lilly the Millennial - 12
Mick the Drunk - 2
Moe the Innkeeper - 11
Weyland the Blacksmith - 6
William the Grave Robber - 5
Zeena Warrior Princess - 9

Leans

Amy the Singer - None, not here to assess
Countess Markievicz - Either, can't read off 2 posts
Dora the Explorer - Either, not much to see yet
Edward the Barber - Traitor, Mentions a good man must wear a mask first post
Friar Tuck - Faithful, hard to get a read yet
Gordon the Cook - Traitor, trying to rig the challenge feels devious and like a manipulation attempt, doesn't sit right with me
Lilly the Millennial - Faithful, trying to play the Gen Z, doesn't know herself at all
Mick the Drunk - Faithful, murdered
Moe the Innkeeper - Either, could be hiding in asking about game mechanics, could be genuine
Weyland the Blacksmith - Either, possibly pocketing Gordon, or just grateful for some hints
William the Grave Robber - Faithful, but I would say that
Zeena Warrior Princess - Either, pushed back at Gordon, some fluff

Ok, I reckon with 12 players, it's most likely 2 Traitors, possibly with a conversion down the line. The show starts with 3 Traitors of 22 players, 3 in 12 seems awfully unbalanced.

So, your best bets for the banishing are the two highest posters and the no poster?

@Necro suppose I will go number 3. 

I was not pocketing Gordon, I was just glad of the help with the anagrams that I couldn’t get. 

As for @Edward the Barber post saying that a wolf would be quiet on thread at this time and then just come in at the end - if I was a wolf why would I draw attention to the fact I wouldn’t be around much?

(16-01-2023, 07:40 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 07:37 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]This is the round table?

@William the Grave Robber are there no mechanics to resolve inactive players? What is it about Gordon and Edward that has them in your sights? Gordon did the whole coin toss thing, Edward’s been very forthcoming with reads and poking others.

@Lilly the Millennial why Weyland? Switching between two threads on mobile is annoying.

Cause it was a very clear pocket attempt and there was no need for it.  I didn't see any story build up or previous interaction that called for it.

OK, thanks, I did not see it as so egregious but I see where you're coming from.

(16-01-2023, 07:44 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 07:37 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]@William the Grave Robber are there no mechanics to resolve inactive players? What is it about Gordon and Edward that has them in your sights? Gordon did the whole coin toss thing, Edward’s been very forthcoming with reads and poking others.

You'd have to ask Necro about inactive mechanics. 

For Gordon, exactly as you mentioned, didn't feel his logic was favouring us Faithful, and felt more like a Traitor trying to manipulate things already. 

For Edward, his very first comment on the main thread was about a good man needing a mask. 

There's claims that they were "fishing" for Traitors but it seems completely counterintuitive to me to do that.

Lots of WIFOM I guess, but it was an attention-attracting move, I'm leaning faithful there based on that ploy.
The mask thing went totally over my head.

Dora:
"Morning all, I like the look of this one necro.

Just wondering, my fellow Team 1 players have any of you submitted answers yet?"

"I'd suggest the rest of my Team 1ers hold off on submitting answers until later on today anyway.

Can we only submit answers once @Necro ? Or can we change them over time?"

"Ah then never mind on holding off team 1. Fire in answers whenever you have them.

Thanks for clarifying necro."

"It probably is the best play from a purely computational standpoint but I feel it is a bit against the spirit of the game.

Given you've got all the answers why are you waiting? If you think it is the best way of doing it I'm surprised you've held off."

"A convert would make 4 wolves out of 12, that seems fairly unlikely to me. I'd say 3 wolves and you're on solid ground.

I'm intrigued as to your reasoning behind some being 60% and some being 50%. Why are myself and Moe at 60% whereas others are at 50%?"

@Dora the Explorer when you get back from your travels, what are your thoughts on Edward and William?

At the moment my vote will be on Eddie as even though he has one of the higher post counts - they are mainly just random gifs. Makes him look involved without doing too much.

In relation to the number of traitors I would be surprised if there was no conversion attempt so I would guess 2 traitors at the moment and then the convert if they say yes

(16-01-2023, 08:30 PM)Weyland the Blacksmith Wrote: [ -> ]In relation to the number of traitors I would be surprised if there was no conversion attempt so I would guess 2 traitors at the moment and then the convert if they say yes

I'd agree with 2 for now, but as soon as we banish a traitor, I'd say they be given the opportunity to bring it back to two again.

(16-01-2023, 08:09 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:01 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]what did you win?

A shield

If it's OK to ask questions:
- does it shield against murder?
- does it shield against banishment?
- is it transferrable?

(16-01-2023, 08:33 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:09 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]A shield

If it's OK to ask questions:
- does it shield against murder?
- does it shield against banishment?
- is it transferrable?

Knowing the answers to those questions will only help the traitors.

(16-01-2023, 08:33 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:09 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: [ -> ]A shield

If it's OK to ask questions:
- does it shield against murder?
- does it shield against banishment?
- is it transferrable?

Why would you want that information out on the thread.

(16-01-2023, 08:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:33 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]If it's OK to ask questions:
- does it shield against murder?
- does it shield against banishment?
- is it transferrable?

Knowing the answers to those questions will only help the traitors.

Fair point. I was wondering if winning the shield could be alignment indicative. In the tv series the shield only protected against murder, but I did not watch it, just read the wikipedia page.

(16-01-2023, 08:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:33 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]If it's OK to ask questions:
- does it shield against murder?
- does it shield against banishment?
- is it transferrable?

Knowing the answers to those questions will only help the traitors.

I think the damage was done when xena announced winning a prize.
While it was still a schrodinger's prize, the whole of team 2 had a faint shield clocked around us all.

(16-01-2023, 08:49 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]Knowing the answers to those questions will only help the traitors.

Fair point. I was wondering if winning the shield could be alignment indicative. In the tv series the shield only protected against murder, but I did not watch it, just read the wikipedia page.

winning the shield is not alignment indicative. it was won by the team who combine answered the most anagrams correctly. and then randomly distributed secretly to one of the team 2 members.

(16-01-2023, 08:53 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:49 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]Fair point. I was wondering if winning the shield could be alignment indicative. In the tv series the shield only protected against murder, but I did not watch it, just read the wikipedia page.

winning the shield is not alignment indicative. it was won by the team who combine answered the most anagrams correctly. and then randomly distributed secretly to one of the team 2 members.

If it was a shield, I like that Zena won it before wetland had picked a number, while I get that he would have had 3 by default it's still a fun Yvonne . I'm on the phone so did necro state the prize had b a n distributed ?

(16-01-2023, 07:59 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]I do agree with @Edward the Barber that we should be voting within the losing team. I think there's a chance there's 1 Traitor on each team. Of course, there's a chance more than 1 on either team, or none on one team!

Amy the Singer - Inactive thus far
Dora the Explorer - Either
Edward the Barber - Traitor
Lilly the Millennial - Either
Moe the Innkeeper - Either
William the Grave Robber - Faithful

William, I do find this odd. You think there's a chance of a traitor in both teams and yet you want to vote in the larger team. Seems a bit strange.

Scratch that, if you were good then i suppose it is 1 in 5 for both teams. Never mind.

If William turns out to be bad though I suspect two traitors in Team 2.

Moe
#8 offers beer
#29 looking for volunteers to sit out competition
#37 fluff re: scissors
#45 re: anagrams, working on them
#50 to Gordon, coin flip would only determine winning team, not prize-winner(s)
#57 clarifies to Gordon
#78 to Edward, is waiting to hear from Amy
#87 has solved anagrams
#100 shares reads - one of Lilly/Weyland, Edward, Zeena, 5 low posters - basically everyone except themself, Gordon and William, and maybe not Amy due to RL issues
#102 mod query
#104 selects Amy - good choice
#111 picks on on Edward's contradicting posts on anagrams - feels like authentic solving

#47 "My reads from earlier on today haven't changed too much, Edward seemed a bit more suspicious after he doubled down on not being bothered by doing the task cause it was boring even though they strongly hinted earlier they were bad at them


Edward, lily or weyland for me"

Moe is neutral for me - the wide-reaching wolf reads is offset by the gotcha solving.

@Lilly the Millennial why didn't you do the anagram thing ?

(16-01-2023, 08:58 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: [ -> ]Scratch that, if you were good then i suppose it is 1 in 5 for both teams. Never mind.

If William turns out to be bad though I suspect two traitors in Team 2.

Do you find edward's suggestion equally odd?

(16-01-2023, 08:55 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:53 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]winning the shield is not alignment indicative. it was won by the team who combine answered the most anagrams correctly. and then randomly distributed secretly to one of the team 2 members.

If it was a shield, I like that Zena won it before wetland had picked a number, while I get that he would have had 3 by default it's still a fun Yvonne . I'm on the phone so did necro state the prize had b a n distributed ?

Quote:#109 Necro
Today, 06:03 PM
I can announce the winning team of today's contest is Team 2.

That is the team of

@Zeena Warrior Princess
@Weyland the Blacksmith
@Friar Tuck
@Countess Markievicz
@Gordon the Cook


All players must now select a number between 1 and 5 on thread. The winning player(s) will then be PMed their prize.

see bolded.

Edward was being quite precise with his numbers but didn't really say why some had 60% and others had 50%, other than 60% seemed wolfier. For someone using numbers I thought they'd have a bit more explanation behind it.

(16-01-2023, 08:50 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]Knowing the answers to those questions will only help the traitors.

I think the damage was done when xena announced winning a prize.
While it was still a schrodinger's prize, the whole of team 2 had a faint shield clocked around us all.

Just because she said she had a shield doesn’t mean she does. If that is the prize any one of the five of us could have it

(16-01-2023, 08:50 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: [ -> ]Knowing the answers to those questions will only help the traitors.

I think the damage was done when xena announced winning a prize.
While it was still a schrodinger's prize, the whole of team 2 had a faint shield clocked around us all.

Makes no difference, we know someone has or will win a prize, or maybe multiple players. 

Im not saying exactly how my prize work or who or when it works on

(16-01-2023, 09:00 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:58 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: [ -> ]Scratch that, if you were good then i suppose it is 1 in 5 for both teams. Never mind.

If William turns out to be bad though I suspect two traitors in Team 2.

Do you find edward's suggestion equally odd?

I no longer find William's suggestion odd, so edward's isn't either. Although the above holds for Edward too.

(16-01-2023, 08:58 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]Moe
#8 offers beer
#29 looking for volunteers to sit out competition
#37 fluff re: scissors
#45 re: anagrams, working on them
#50 to Gordon, coin flip would only determine winning team, not prize-winner(s)
#57 clarifies to Gordon
#78 to Edward, is waiting to hear from Amy
#87 has solved anagrams
#100 shares reads - one of Lilly/Weyland, Edward, Zeena, 5 low posters - basically everyone except themself, Gordon and William, and maybe not Amy due to RL issues
#102 mod query
#104 selects Amy - good choice
#111 picks on on Edward's contradicting posts on anagrams - feels like authentic solving

#47 "My reads from earlier on today haven't changed too much, Edward seemed a bit more suspicious after he doubled down on not being bothered by doing the task cause it was boring even though they strongly hinted earlier they were bad at them


Edward, lily or weyland for me"

Moe is neutral for me - the wide-reaching wolf reads is offset by the gotcha solving.

Just to clarify, the 5 low posters I mentioned wernt really traitor reads, just posters I'd need to hear more from

(16-01-2023, 08:56 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 07:59 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]I do agree with @Edward the Barber that we should be voting within the losing team. I think there's a chance there's 1 Traitor on each team. Of course, there's a chance more than 1 on either team, or none on one team!

Amy the Singer - Inactive thus far
Dora the Explorer - Either
Edward the Barber - Traitor
Lilly the Millennial - Either
Moe the Innkeeper - Either
William the Grave Robber - Faithful

William, I do find this odd. You think there's a chance of a traitor in both teams and yet you want to vote in the larger team. Seems a bit strange.

Those are the losing team from today's challenge, who have no chance of a shield.

I think it was the Australian one where the shield protected from both banishment and murder.

(16-01-2023, 07:40 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 07:37 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]This is the round table?

@William the Grave Robber are there no mechanics to resolve inactive players? What is it about Gordon and Edward that has them in your sights? Gordon did the whole coin toss thing, Edward’s been very forthcoming with reads and poking others.

@Lilly the Millennial why Weyland? Switching between two threads on mobile is annoying.

Cause it was a very clear pocket attempt and there was no need for it.  I didn't see any story build up or previous interaction that called for it.

So just before Gordon's post Weyland said that they were stuck on two anagrams. Then Gordon gives the clue and weyland says thanks I knew I always like you. What more of a story do you want? Unless you think the post that said they were stuck on two anagrams was a lie too.

(16-01-2023, 09:00 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: [ -> ]Edward was being quite precise with his numbers but didn't really say why some had 60% and others had 50%, other than 60% seemed wolfier. For someone using numbers I thought they'd have a bit more explanation behind it.

You want me to explain my exact method of playing ?

Assu ing I'm a villager that would be only helpful to the wolves and assuming I'm a wolf there would be no truth to it 
So either way it's pointless

(16-01-2023, 09:08 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:56 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: [ -> ]William, I do find this odd. You think there's a chance of a traitor in both teams and yet you want to vote in the larger team. Seems a bit strange.

Those are the losing team from today's challenge, who have no chance of a shield.

I think it was the Australian one where the shield protected from both banishment and murder.

I've retracted that accusation. I really must watch the traitors at some point.

I think it's somewhat town-telling that both Edward and William suggested to banish within their own team, while Dora pushed back, strangely Dora pushed back against just William who agreed with the plan, and not Edward. Amy is MIA, Moe is neutral for me, Dora is leaning traitor, need to get a read on Lilly, who voted Weyland off the bat, has a proxy vote also, is it also on Weyland?

(16-01-2023, 09:09 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 09:00 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: [ -> ]Edward was being quite precise with his numbers but didn't really say why some had 60% and others had 50%, other than 60% seemed wolfier. For someone using numbers I thought they'd have a bit more explanation behind it.

You want me to explain my exact method of playing ?

Assu ing I'm a villager that would be only helpful to the wolves and assuming I'm a wolf there would be no truth to it 
So either way it's pointless

I don't want you to explain your exact method of playing. My question was what was your reason for having us as more likely to be wolves and the response was essentially you seem more likely to be wolves. Can you see how I might be frustrated with that as an answer?

If you're a villager it would be helpful to explain your reasons so that you could convince others that someone was a wolf and get them to vote for that person.

(16-01-2023, 09:05 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 08:58 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: [ -> ]Moe
#8 offers beer
#29 looking for volunteers to sit out competition
#37 fluff re: scissors
#45 re: anagrams, working on them
#50 to Gordon, coin flip would only determine winning team, not prize-winner(s)
#57 clarifies to Gordon
#78 to Edward, is waiting to hear from Amy
#87 has solved anagrams
#100 shares reads - one of Lilly/Weyland, Edward, Zeena, 5 low posters - basically everyone except themself, Gordon and William, and maybe not Amy due to RL issues
#102 mod query
#104 selects Amy - good choice
#111 picks on on Edward's contradicting posts on anagrams - feels like authentic solving

#47 "My reads from earlier on today haven't changed too much, Edward seemed a bit more suspicious after he doubled down on not being bothered by doing the task cause it was boring even though they strongly hinted earlier they were bad at them


Edward, lily or weyland for me"

Moe is neutral for me - the wide-reaching wolf reads is offset by the gotcha solving.

Just to clarify, the 5 low posters I mentioned wernt really traitor reads, just posters I'd need to hear more from

I stand corrected, should not rush through the posts.

(16-01-2023, 09:12 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: [ -> ]

(16-01-2023, 09:09 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: [ -> ]You want me to explain my exact method of playing ?

Assu ing I'm a villager that would be only helpful to the wolves and assuming I'm a wolf there would be no truth to it 
So either way it's pointless

I don't want you to explain your exact method of playing. My question was what was your reason for having us as more likely to be wolves and the response was essentially you seem more likely to be wolves. Can you see how I might be frustrated with that as an answer?

If you're a villager it would be helpful to explain your reasons so that you could convince others that someone was a wolf and get them to vote for that person.

I've relisted since then and you are now neutral 
Do you want me to explain on a particular person. Gordon is village because he is harsh and unafraid to stand out .
Whos your top village