17-01-2023, 07:42 PM
Round Table Discussion Thread
17-01-2023, 07:42 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:(17-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: I'll answer in the morning if I'm still in the game, I just said I'd won one to stop a false claim.
How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.
Given we don't know the number, or content, of prizes, @Friar Tuck this is not helpful
17-01-2023, 07:43 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.(17-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: I'll answer in the morning if I'm still in the game, I just said I'd won one to stop a false claim.
How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.
17-01-2023, 07:44 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:Well we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.
Given we don't know the number, or content, of prizes, @Friar Tuck this is not helpful
17-01-2023, 07:45 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:You could have then known they were a wolf(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.
17-01-2023, 07:46 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:45 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:If I'd kept quiet and another poster claimed to have won one and I then disputed who would you believe?(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.You could have then known they were a wolf
17-01-2023, 07:48 PM
17-01-2023, 07:48 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:44 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: Given we don't know the number, or content, of prizes, @Friar Tuck this is not helpfulWell we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.
Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage
17-01-2023, 07:50 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: How does you saying you won one, stop a false claim. Make me understand it the way you see it.Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.
Do you think that by falsely saying that you won a prize, it would somehow stop a wolf from getting a prize they won? I am still not following how this is supposed to work.
17-01-2023, 07:50 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:48 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:Interestingly he is now backing up the countess(17-01-2023, 07:44 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Well we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.
Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage
This I think suggests she is telling the truth and one of friar Dora or I should be banished
17-01-2023, 07:50 PM
17-01-2023, 07:51 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:48 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:Yes, 2 claimed. If there was only 1 claimed today it would give another poster the option to lie.(17-01-2023, 07:44 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Well we have 2 claimed for yesterday. So if only one was claimed today it would be an opportunity for a wolf to claim one.
Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage
17-01-2023, 07:51 PM
I'm between Edward and frier. I've already given my reasons for Edward. I know I might be tunnelling here but I can't shake the feeling they are a traitor
Frier was on my radar more than dora already this morning and I haven't seen anything from dora to move her ahead of frier. Frier never clarified my question about why they mixed up edward and lily yesterday when referring to the game.This prize claim also seems bizarre
I still think it would be a very balls out play from countess to make that prize claim along with the post I mentioned earlier from last night's roundtable
Frier was on my radar more than dora already this morning and I haven't seen anything from dora to move her ahead of frier. Frier never clarified my question about why they mixed up edward and lily yesterday when referring to the game.This prize claim also seems bizarre
I still think it would be a very balls out play from countess to make that prize claim along with the post I mentioned earlier from last night's roundtable
17-01-2023, 07:52 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:50 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:I'm not falsely claiming to have one. I posted to stop a wolf from falsely claiming.(17-01-2023, 07:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Going on what we know there was 2 prizes won yesterday. Zeena posted she won one so it was likely there was a second one today too. If no one claimed that a wolf could.
Do you think that by falsely saying that you won a prize, it would somehow stop a wolf from getting a prize they won? I am still not following how this is supposed to work.
17-01-2023, 07:53 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:(17-01-2023, 07:23 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: Is one of the prizes another shield @Zeena Warrior Princess @Friar TuckI'll answer in the morning if I'm still in the game, I just said I'd won one to stop a false claim.
Yours is a false claim @Friar Tuck you have put a target on yourself now
17-01-2023, 07:53 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:50 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:I now think there were 2 prizes yesterday, but I don't know if Countess was honest about what she won.(17-01-2023, 07:48 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: Claimed, sure. But you're assuming both Zeena and Countess told the truth and that there were no others. So are you claiming one for the sake of it or did you actually get one?? And what's to say there's more than 1 today?Interestingly he is now backing up the countess
There's literally nothing stopping any of the other 3 on Team 2 from saying they got a prize, Faithful or Traitor, and no one can refute it at this stage
This I think suggests she is telling the truth and one of friar Dora or I should be banished
17-01-2023, 07:58 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:(17-01-2023, 07:23 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: Is one of the prizes another shield @Zeena Warrior Princess @Friar Tuck
I think it is to the benefit of the village to know, yes I have won another shield which I can use on anyone
Even yourself again?
17-01-2023, 07:58 PM
17-01-2023, 08:00 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:But there's already a question mark over 4 of us. Adding in 1 more means there's a chance 4 village are banished before you find the 1.(17-01-2023, 07:46 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: If I'd kept quiet and another poster claimed to have won one and I then disputed who would you believe?
Then we'd have a classic 1 for 1.
That would be perfect.
17-01-2023, 08:00 PM
@Friar Tuck can you confirm that you believe that countess reciverdo the prize yesterday that she claims she did
17-01-2023, 08:01 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: If it is similar to countesses and can help the village it might be better to tell now so we can pick who votes where.It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.
By hiding it you might look wolfy, waiting to talk to your mates over the witching hours to decide what to tell us in the morning.
Well thats what I've won. If you are village and there is a murder in the morning then you are unlikely to get the info to us.
Of course I could give you the shield if I believe you are village
17-01-2023, 08:02 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:00 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: @Friar Tuck can you confirm that you believe that countess reciverdo the prize yesterday that she claims she didI believe now that she may have won a prize, but I don't know if it's what she claimed.
17-01-2023, 08:03 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:01 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:That would depend on you being village though, wouldn't it?(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.
Well thats what I've won. If you are village and there is a murder in the morning then you are unlikely to get the info to us.
Of course I could give you the shield if I believe you are village
17-01-2023, 08:03 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote:What are you doing(17-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: I think it is to the benefit of the village to know, yes I have won another shield which I can use on anyone
Even yourself again?
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight
More instruction
17-01-2023, 08:04 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:02 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:You said your prize is similar(17-01-2023, 08:00 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: @Friar Tuck can you confirm that you believe that countess reciverdo the prize yesterday that she claims she didI believe now that she may have won a prize, but I don't know if it's what she claimed.
If it's similar then she hardly made it up.
Whats your prize exactly
17-01-2023, 08:05 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote:Why would a villager ask this, if I was to say no I would likely be dead in the morning.(17-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: I think it is to the benefit of the village to know, yes I have won another shield which I can use on anyone
Even yourself again?
Of course I can use it on myself
17-01-2023, 08:05 PM
(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:@Edward the Barber I didn't say it was similar.(17-01-2023, 07:38 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: If it is similar to countesses and can help the village it might be better to tell now so we can pick who votes where.It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.
By hiding it you might look wolfy, waiting to talk to your mates over the witching hours to decide what to tell us in the morning.
17-01-2023, 08:08 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:05 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:So what is it(17-01-2023, 07:42 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: It's different to Countess, so I'm a bit dubious that you got the same prize again.@Edward the Barber I didn't say it was similar.
17-01-2023, 08:09 PM
May I ask who voted Lily and Edward last night?
17-01-2023, 08:09 PM
I still think Edward is a Traitor, his behaviour today has done nothing to persaude me otherwise, some of it has reinforced that opinion.
As to everyone else, I'm somewhat suspicious of Countess, Friar, and to a lesser extent Dora. But if Edward is a Traitor, then only 1 of those can be, and if push came to shove, I'd be leaning towards Friar.
I'm neutral on Amy, Moe, Gordon and Weyland right now.
I'm leaning Faithful for Zeena.
Obviously I have myself Faithful, I wouldn't have thought I needed to state that, but so no one can misread and think otherwise. Sigh.
Players - Amy, Countess, Dora, Edward, Friar, Gordon, Moe, William, Weyland, Zeena (mick, lilly)
As to everyone else, I'm somewhat suspicious of Countess, Friar, and to a lesser extent Dora. But if Edward is a Traitor, then only 1 of those can be, and if push came to shove, I'd be leaning towards Friar.
I'm neutral on Amy, Moe, Gordon and Weyland right now.
I'm leaning Faithful for Zeena.
Obviously I have myself Faithful, I wouldn't have thought I needed to state that, but so no one can misread and think otherwise. Sigh.
Players - Amy, Countess, Dora, Edward, Friar, Gordon, Moe, William, Weyland, Zeena (mick, lilly)
17-01-2023, 08:09 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:It would but Im still the only player to claim to have used a shield and someone was shielded last night.(17-01-2023, 08:01 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: Well thats what I've won. If you are village and there is a murder in the morning then you are unlikely to get the info to us.That would depend on you being village though, wouldn't it?
Of course I could give you the shield if I believe you are village
17-01-2023, 08:10 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:08 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:Seriously? You accuse Amy of instruction and now this.(17-01-2023, 08:05 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: @Edward the Barber I didn't say it was similar.So what is it
17-01-2023, 08:11 PM
I don't think we need to know what it is. The claim-to-prevent-a-false-claim thing makes no sense to me. If he has won a prize, we can deduce that it's not a shield, and he says it's not the same as mine,. The fact that there were two different prizes today should lend a little weight to my result, and also goes some way towards confirming Zeena as the sole shield-holder last night, and hence the traitor target, no matter how suboptimal that seems.
17-01-2023, 08:12 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:(17-01-2023, 07:58 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: Even yourself again?What are you doing
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight
More instruction
I'm dubious of the same person getting the same prize again
17-01-2023, 08:12 PM
17-01-2023, 08:13 PM
Ok so is the consensus now that we can take Friar at his word and I will protect him tonight?
17-01-2023, 08:13 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:11 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: I don't think we need to know what it is. The claim-to-prevent-a-false-claim thing makes no sense to me. If he has won a prize, we can deduce that it's not a shield, and he says it's not the same as mine,. The fact that there were two different prizes today should lend a little weight to my result, and also goes some way towards confirming Zeena as the sole shield-holder last night, and hence the traitor target, no matter how suboptimal that seems.There were 2 different prizes yesterday according to your claim? Only 1 of them changed today which is why I'm dubious of your claim.
17-01-2023, 08:14 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:12 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote:Randomization has no memory, the chances of her winning the same prize today were the same as yesterday, but maybe should should go out and buy a euromillions ticket.(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: What are you doing
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight
More instruction
I'm dubious of the same person getting the same prize again
17-01-2023, 08:15 PM
(17-01-2023, 08:12 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote:There's a 1 in 5 chance, it's not that absurd.(17-01-2023, 08:03 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: What are you doing
You believe she self protected last night so why point ou that she might not be able to tonight
More instruction
I'm dubious of the same person getting the same prize again
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