The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[Ina May the Midwife]

So because Lorcan also mixed them up then it must be me 🙄

Most likely option to me. Also you are one of the few people to reference Maeve.

Murder in plain sight, whoever you vote for is murdered. So you voted off wagon. Because otherwise what is the point in wasting it on someone who is likely to be banished anyway.
How you voted was confusing as you clarified Magda not Maeve, hence Lorcan getting confused too. 

Fits as far as I can see.

It seems like the best candidate for it at the moment anyway.

I've checked back over all of yesterday's posts looking for sentences or posts beginning with MAEVE or MADAM but I couldn't spot anything

[Betty the Beggar]

No my vote was correct as I voted for her due to the comment amount Amy saying she was faithful a lot - it was a copy of an earlier comment. The comment I got mixed up was the one someone repeated Amy’s theory - the look back wouldn’t have changed my vote. 

I don’t think voting off wagon would be the mechanic as I wasn’t the only one to do so, therefore we can’t all be traitors

I'm claiming that voting for her was the mechanic.
You voted off wagon in this scenario as it's a waste of a kill otherwise if you placed a kill on someone who was banished beforehand.

I think the Prada call out was more likely

[Pat the Baker]

No my vote was correct as I voted for her due to the comment amount Amy saying she was faithful a lot - it was a copy of an earlier comment. The comment I got mixed up was the one someone repeated Amy’s theory - the look back wouldn’t have changed my vote. 

I don’t think voting off wagon would be the mechanic as I wasn’t the only one to do so, therefore we can’t all be traitors

I'm claiming that voting for her was the mechanic.
You voted off wagon in this scenario as it's a waste of a kill otherwise if you placed a kill on someone who was banished beforehand.

So you think whoever I voted for was going to be the murder in plain sight and I chose to go for someone with no other votes and therefore making it stand out when she died? If that was the mechanic and I was a traitor I would have voted for someone who had votes but wasn’t already in danger of banishment

[Prada the Seamstress]

I'm claiming that voting for her was the mechanic.
You voted off wagon in this scenario as it's a waste of a kill otherwise if you placed a kill on someone who was banished beforehand.

I think the Prada call out was more likely

I don't think a murder in plain sight is as easy as a post talking to a user once over the day.
That's too easy. There has to be something we are missing.
I tried earlier going back over posts looking for Magda in them, across the post with capital letters etc. I'll start again with Maeve, but I don't think it's going to be something as glaringly obvious as one mention of the player.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I'm claiming that voting for her was the mechanic.
You voted off wagon in this scenario as it's a waste of a kill otherwise if you placed a kill on someone who was banished beforehand.

I think the Prada call out was more likely

The Prada post doesn't look like much to me. Unless they had to ask someone three questions in a row to trigger their death. Which might work as a concert.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

That should read conceit. Damn autocorrect.

[William the Grave Robber]

@Pat the Baker I do find the Maeve/Magda confusion a little bit suss given how it has played out now with lorc aswel.

@Betty the Beggar not fully sold on your story either.

I would be happy to race the above two with @Zeena Warrior Princess also up for consideration.

[Gordon the Cook]

Ok folks, I have won an insta banishment, I have until thread closes to use it, thoughts

i'd suggest we resolve zeena.

[Pat the Baker]

@Pat the Baker I do find the Maeve/Magda confusion a little bit suss given how it has played out now with lorc aswel.

@Betty the Beggar not fully sold on your story either.

I would be happy to race the above two with  @Zeena Warrior Princess also up for consideration.

Ah mod is hardly gonna kill of the wrong player just to work a mechanic 🙄

[Betty the Beggar]

I think the Prada call out was more likely

I don't think a murder in plain sight is as easy as a post talking to a user once over the day.
That's too easy. There has to be something we are missing.
I tried earlier going back over posts looking for Magda in them, across the post with capital letters etc. I'll start again with Maeve, but I don't think it's going to be something as glaringly obvious as one mention of the player.

No offence but you would say that

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I have a bad feeling that Zeena is a noisy faithful.

Suss about the Betty self pres that was not a guaranteed self pres.

Would it not be best to focus on people likely to have ordered kill on Maeve.

Contenders noted as:
Prada: Direct interaction with Maeve. Mechanic: Possibly they had to ask someone a certain number of questions in a row to trigger death.
Pat: the Maeve/Magda confusion. Mechanic: whoever they voted for would be killed.

Any other likely contenders for kill in plain sight.

[William the Grave Robber]

Traitors would have realized the murder in plain sight mistake when lorc posted on thread this morning at the same time as us.

Do we think they stay quiet or lean into it?

[Ina May the Midwife]

Ok folks, I have won an insta banishment, I have until thread closes to use it, thoughts

If I had it, I'd 100% use it on Betty

[William the Grave Robber]

@Pat the Baker I do find the Maeve/Magda confusion a little bit suss given how it has played out now with lorc aswel.

@Betty the Beggar not fully sold on your story either.

I would be happy to race the above two with  @Zeena Warrior Princess also up for consideration.

Ah mod is hardly gonna kill of the wrong player just to work a mechanic 🙄

Not saying that.
Traitors have a backroom where I'm sure they were discussing who to murder in plain sight. I am suggesting that both Magda and Maeve were up for that discussion.
Not saying you committed the murder in plain sight but I think you were part of that discussion in a back room and that you went on to confuse the two on thread yesterday.
Probable: maybe
Impossible: certainly not

[Prada the Seamstress]

I don't think a murder in plain sight is as easy as a post talking to a user once over the day.
That's too easy. There has to be something we are missing.
I tried earlier going back over posts looking for Magda in them, across the post with capital letters etc. I'll start again with Maeve, but I don't think it's going to be something as glaringly obvious as one mention of the player.

No offence but you would say that

Obviously I would.
However, a murder in plain sight that's as easy as interacting with a player once is too easy. And if that was the case, why was it not Laura who I first interacted with yesterday? 
You are clutching at straws here but isn't this a fine distraction to the vote manipulation at banishment. 
Wagonomics is a lot stronger evidence of alignment than a one post mentioning a player. 

FYI mods
I am back getting MySQL errors again on the thread as I try go back over posts, I don't know why they keep coming up for me?

[Prada the Seamstress]

Ok folks, I have won an insta banishment, I have until thread closes to use it, thoughts

If I had it, I'd 100% use it on Betty

From a wagonomics POV, I would use it here too.

[Pat the Baker]

No offence but you would say that

Obviously I would.
However, a murder in plain sight that's as easy as interacting with a player once is too easy. And if that was the case, why was it not Laura who I first interacted with yesterday? 
You are clutching at straws here but isn't this a fine distraction to the vote manipulation at banishment. 
Wagonomics is a lot stronger evidence of alignment than a one post mentioning a player. 

FYI mods
I am back getting MySQL errors again on the thread as I try go back over posts, I don't know why they keep coming up for me?

 It just you, I’ve been getting them too

[Pat the Baker]

*not

[Pat the Baker]

Is there anyone who hasn’t posted yet today?

@Lilly the Millennial are you going to come back or just continue one post a day?

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

I got seer prize. Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor and therefore a waste. Zenna, Ina and Friar are the others I'd really like to get an answer on.

[Betty the Beggar]

Congratulations to:

McDonald the Farmer
Rhoda the Spinster
Betty the Beggar
Friar Tuck
Pat the Baker
Laura the Lace Mistress
Donald the Spoofer

You have won a trip to the Armoury. Winners will be PM'd as soon as possible!

Nothing received here as of yet

[William the Grave Robber]

Vincent, McDonald, Weyland & Rhoda I lean faithful on you all now. All posted within 5 minutes, sometimes multiple times, of lorc post about murder in plain sight.

I think a traitor is not online as they know what is coming or goes straight to their backroom with a WTF

[Vincent the Artist]

half time update: here's my count. it may not be correct, but its counted as best i can.ben & zena drawing as top wagon

Code:

betty - vincent
vincent - donald
ben - laura, dora, tuck, boris
zeena - prada, gordon, mcdonald, william
amy - maeve
willia - weyland

are we allowed post past :30?

Code:

zeena - prada, gordon, mcdonald, william, rhoda, amy
ben - laura, dora, tuck, boris, magda
betty - vincent, chris, ben, ina
amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

I've gone back over the posts before and after the vote and the only fleeting thing I've found is the misspelling of Maeve/Mauve by Gordon. Could be nothing but could be that small action that offed her. Also e and u are not next to each other on the keyboard...

I'd be inclined to flip either Betty or Gordon.

[McDonald the Farmer]

I’d banish Betty. Using her own reasoning for voting Benji - it would give us the most information going forward.

[Betty the Beggar]

I got seer prize. Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor and therefore a waste. Zenna, Ina and Friar are the others I'd really like to get an answer on.

If you peek me it clears Vincent as well.

I'm not a traitor

[William the Grave Robber]

I got seer prize. Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor and therefore a waste. Zenna, Ina and Friar are the others I'd really like to get an answer on.

Seer prize. This is new compared to yesterday?

Or was won by one of the 10 yesterday, but not revealed as won.

[Vincent the Artist]

I got seer prize. Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor and therefore a waste. Zenna, Ina and Friar are the others I'd really like to get an answer on.

Is there a time frame for activating this?

[William the Grave Robber]

Can we be sure that traitors don't have any powers?

Like an alpha wolf always peeking good. I know it's not in the OP but just checking. I'd peek Betty if no powers in play otherwise

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

New today, got it there when I logged in. Time frame is before the thread closes.

I've submitted it for Betty. There may have been smarter choices to use it on but I don't have the time to sit and ponder on them

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

ooooh, quick response....

Betty the Beggar is.... Faithful

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

I never bought into the theory around the timing of her first posts anyway. Only that last minute vote last night gave me a moments doubt.

[William the Grave Robber]

Vincent, McDonald, Weyland & Rhoda I lean faithful on you all now. All posted within 5 minutes, sometimes multiple times, of lorc post about murder in plain sight.

I think a traitor is not online as they know what is coming or goes straight to their backroom with a WTF

I'll add Betty to this list so

[Rhoda the Spinster]

No offence but you would say that

Obviously I would.
However, a murder in plain sight that's as easy as interacting with a player once is too easy. And if that was the case, why was it not Laura who I first interacted with yesterday? 
You are clutching at straws here but isn't this a fine distraction to the vote manipulation at banishment. 
Wagonomics is a lot stronger evidence of alignment than a one post mentioning a player. 

FYI mods
I am back getting MySQL errors again on the thread as I try go back over posts, I don't know why they keep coming up for me?

It wouldn't be just interacting with a player. It would have to be doing so using some mechanic that could possibly suss you out if used unwisely. You know that.
Your post to Maeve looks reasonable at first glance, but you asked three questions in a row of them. That could be the format that was asked of you.

[Ina May the Midwife]

I got seer prize. Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor and therefore a waste. Zenna, Ina and Friar are the others I'd really like to get an answer on.

The problem with using it on Betty is that since she's suspected by many of being a traitor - if you say she's not, we'll still need to flip one of you to verify that you're not a traitor.

I'd probably peek Zeena as her flip might tell us more about the wagonomics last night

[Ina May the Midwife]

I never bought into the theory around the timing of her first posts anyway. Only that last minute vote last night gave me a moments doubt.

"Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor"

Sorry, which is it - you never bought into Betty being a traitor or Betty's an obvious traitor?

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

I never bought into the theory around the timing of her first posts anyway. Only that last minute vote last night gave me a moments doubt.

"Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor"

Sorry, which is it - you never bought into Betty being a traitor or Betty's an obvious traitor?

Obvious in the "mob" sense. So many people are on her, that if she was a traitor, it would be seen as a waste.

[William the Grave Robber]

So if I remove my newly established faithful core and subtract them from the 10 winners of yesterday's game, it leaves

Benji
Ina
Prada
Friar
Laura( won a seer prize today)
Pat.

I think one of Benji, Ina, Prada, Friar or Pat is a wolf and used a vote power won yesterday

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

I got seer prize. Tempted to use on Betty but is she an obvious traitor and therefore a waste. Zenna, Ina and Friar are the others I'd really like to get an answer on.

The problem with using it on Betty is that since she's suspected by many of being a traitor - if you say she's not, we'll still need to flip one of you to verify that you're not a traitor.

I'd probably peek Zeena as her flip might tell us more about the wagonomics last night

I mean... I don't disagree with you. I never supported the Betty theory and now here I am saying I KNOW she's a faithful. Pretty risky move though, if she was a traitor? So, she gets voted out, reveals she is a traitor and now the faithfuls have Vincent AND me. 3 traitors with one stone. Why would I do that?

[McDonald the Farmer]

Who do we suggest is banished now?

Still need to figure out if Maeve’s murder in plain sight was a night action. If it was it was between 9.30 last night and 10am this morning.

[McDonald the Farmer]

So if I remove my newly established faithful core and subtract them from the 10 winners of yesterday's game, it leaves

Benji
Ina
Prada
Friar
Laura( won a seer prize today)
Pat.

I think one of Benji, Ina, Prada, Friar or Pat is a wolf and used a vote power won yesterday

Errrr Benji was lynched last night, Wills.