The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Look I'm definitely voting Dora tonight.

Not voting Weyland and Laura.

Unsure on who my second vote is far. Very hard. Chris posts nothing of consequence. Countess just flounces. Boris I get little from.

Donald and William I have mixed feelings
I like some of what they post and disagree strongly with others. Did like that William reevaluated after last night's vote on priorities, gives me a better feeling. Both were upfront with prizes won.

I'm going on the lash this evening (work leaving do) so not sure that I'll post at all.

I have posted a lot, so make of that what you will.

[Dora the Explorer]

This is directed to you Laura, who do have as next most faithful?

My most faithful leaning people are...
William, Weyland, Donald

One of Rhoda or Dora is a traitor IMO, if we flip one, I'd feel confident of what the other is.

Flip both us tonight at round table and I'll be happy Is that a deal? Split votes down the middle we both go.

[Chris the Carpenter]

I'm glad common sense prevailed in the end @Laura the Lace Mistress .

No surprise there about @Friar Tuck .

Now we need to decide about @Dora the Explorer

Do we really think two traitors would be that obviously in cahoots together?

[William the Grave Robber]

This is directed to you Laura, who do have as next most faithful?

My most faithful leaning people are...
William, Weyland, Donald

One of Rhoda or Dora is a traitor IMO, if we flip one, I'd feel confident of what the other is.

I trust you. I'd be confident of Weyland too.

Weyland, who do you trust?

Everyone is so caught up with finding a traitor, they've overlooked the win conditions.

[Dora the Explorer]

Look I'm definitely voting Dora tonight.

Not voting Weyland and Laura.

Unsure on who my second vote is far. Very hard. Chris posts nothing of consequence. Countess just flounces. Boris I get little from.

Donald and William I have mixed feelings
I like some of what they post and disagree strongly with others. Did like that William reevaluated after last night's vote on priorities, gives me a better feeling. Both were upfront with prizes won.

I'm going on the lash this evening (work leaving do) so not sure that I'll post at all.

I have posted a lot, so make of that what you will.

And I'm voting you.
How many traitors do you think are left.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

My most faithful leaning people are...
William, Weyland, Donald

One of Rhoda or Dora is a traitor IMO, if we flip one, I'd feel confident of what the other is.

Flip both us tonight at round table and I'll be happy Is that a deal? Split votes down the middle we both go.

TBH, that wouldn't be a bad way to go. I wouldn't trust either of you completely in the final but getting you both out tonight has a high probability of a traitor/faithful banishment.

Or you could know the tide is against you so you're taking a faithful down with you. The best evidence against you Dora is the voting pattern along with Friar. And you know yourself, there's no explaination you can give for it that will satisfy people.

Where does everyone else weigh in on the Dora vs Rhoda conflict?

[Dora the Explorer]

Flip both us tonight at round table and I'll be happy Is that a deal? Split votes down the middle we both go.

TBH, that wouldn't be a bad way to go. I wouldn't trust either of you completely in the final but getting you both out tonight has a high probability of a traitor/faithful banishment.

Or you could know the tide is against you so you're taking a faithful down with you. The best evidence against you Dora is the voting pattern along with Friar. And you know yourself, there's no explaination you can give for it that will satisfy people.

Where does everyone else weigh in on the Dora vs Rhoda conflict?

Laura I fully agree with you and I'm not arguing I believe your best chance is me and Rhoda. If there's only one left the chances are it's gonna be an experienced player because of how friar played the game. I don't think it's gonna be a newbie.  If it's a newbie I think you have a better chance of them crumbling in the final.

[William the Grave Robber]

Yeah, I wouldn't be against those two going tonight

[Dora the Explorer]

Also I could be wrong here and maybe it makes no sense but seen as we have had vote manipulation going on I think it has to be all on board to do it. We don't want a traitor coming in with something and soem random third person gets drawn into it?

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Yeah, I wouldn't be against those two going tonight

You know there's a part of me that feels you might be playing a blinder as a traitor. You are my top faithful and you're so agreeable that I can almost make out you rubbing your hands in glee as we walk to the final with you in the mix.

That said, until I have to put trust in someone and right now it's you.... it will be a sucker punch if I'm wrong.

[William the Grave Robber]

Yeah, I wouldn't be against those two going tonight

You know there's a part of me that feels you might be playing a blinder as a traitor. You are my top faithful and you're so agreeable that I can almost make out you rubbing your hands in glee as we walk to the final with you in the mix.

That said, until I have to put trust in someone and right now it's you.... it will be a sucker punch if I'm wrong.

You say I'm agreeable, but I voted for Rhoda last night, and Dora is a policy banishment, so it's pretty in line with what I've put on thread to date.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

You know there's a part of me that feels you might be playing a blinder as a traitor. You are my top faithful and you're so agreeable that I can almost make out you rubbing your hands in glee as we walk to the final with you in the mix.

That said, until I have to put trust in someone and right now it's you.... it will be a sucker punch if I'm wrong.

You say I'm agreeable, but I voted for Rhoda last night, and Dora is a policy banishment, so it's pretty in line with what I've put on thread to date.

Yeah that's all good, I think your reasoning is always solid. It's just a case of is it too good to be true.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting a vote for you. You are my highest confidence faithful. It's just that sinking feeling of getting it soooo wrong.

[Dora the Explorer]

You say I'm agreeable, but I voted for Rhoda last night, and Dora is a policy banishment, so it's pretty in line with what I've put on thread to date.

Yeah that's all good, I think your reasoning is always solid. It's just a case of is it too good to be true.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting a vote for you. You are my highest confidence faithful. It's just that sinking feeling of getting it soooo wrong.

Do you think there is more than one left? I I thoyght four earlier with a recruitment but obviously I forgot no announcement I do think 4 is Prob over powered

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

My most faithful leaning people are...
William, Weyland, Donald

One of Rhoda or Dora is a traitor IMO, if we flip one, I'd feel confident of what the other is.

I trust you. I'd be confident of Weyland too.

Weyland, who do you trust?

Everyone is so caught up with finding a traitor, they've overlooked the win conditions.

Trust is a strong word, my vote wont be going on Laura, yourself or Rhoda. If Laura is a traitor then fair play she deserves to win .

Dora has to go in my opinion, there's nothing in what she said that changes my mind, scrabbling to indicate that there was a conversion this morning was a bit desperate.

Outside of that, Countess has specifically not responded to a couple of questions.


Boris - ive no idea what to make of Boris, there's very little information i have written down about it him, Chris also falls into this category.

Donald, was fairly sure he was a traitor last night but this was primarily on an assumption which was incorrect when the Friar/Dora dynamic kicked in

I think reviewing the last few votes is probably in order and seeing if wagonomics throws out anything else other than the Dora/Friar malarkey

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

Yeah that's all good, I think your reasoning is always solid. It's just a case of is it too good to be true.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting a vote for you. You are my highest confidence faithful. It's just that sinking feeling of getting it soooo wrong.

Do you think there is more than one left? I I thoyght four earlier with a recruitment but obviously I forgot no announcement I do think 4 is Prob over powered

25 players at the start, I would say 3 is underpowered particularly when no recruitment took place

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Yeah that's all good, I think your reasoning is always solid. It's just a case of is it too good to be true.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting a vote for you. You are my highest confidence faithful. It's just that sinking feeling of getting it soooo wrong.

Do you think there is more than one left? I I thoyght four earlier with a recruitment but obviously I forgot no announcement I do think 4 is Prob over powered

My guess is two left. Can't see them starting with only three, and five seems like a lot. We've got two, so two left.... at a guess.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

My last thought before the evening shuttling of kids to activities starts...

Dora and Rhoda is a HIGH chance of 1 traitor + 1 faithful.

If Dora is who we think is the most likely traitor, is there merit in rolling the dice on Dora + Chris or Countess.

[Dora the Explorer]

My last thought before the evening shuttling of kids to activities starts...

Dora and Rhoda is a HIGH chance of 1 traitor + 1 faithful.

If Dora is who we think is the most likely traitor, is there merit in rolling the dice on Dora + Chris or Countess.

You need to ask yourself one question ok. What if I do turn green( I will) are you ok with having Rhoda unknown tomorrow morning?? Don't forget you're the one that's gonna be murdered tonight if it isn't over as you're the most green. Think about it.

[William the Grave Robber]

12) Win conditions: The game ends when the players unanimously vote to do so (or when only 2 players remain). If the remaining players are all Faithful then the Faithful win. If there is a single Traitor (or more) remaining when the game is ended by the players, the Traitors win. The players cannot vote to end the game until the Final Banishment stage begins. Individual win conditions are slightly different to how Traitors usually work. This is fully a team game. If 2 Faithful wins, the entire Faithful team wins. If 1 Traitor wins, the entire Traitor team wins.

Just keep the end game in mind at all times now

[Countess Markievicz]

@Rhoda the Spinster just on a quick and short response. Why did you vote for Prada last night?

Because therir post to Maeve was the most plausible as a task to kill in plain sight.

Still at lot of discussion going on post the close. Anyway.

Voting Rhoda again this evening.

You keep calling me out for no reason. Too many red flags. I think you try and control the forum and post so much, it gave me a headache.

Vote Rhoda

@Countess Markievicz why did you ask the question, above, thank her reply and not follow it up other than voting for her (3 times 🤣)

Thanks for the question. 3 times ya i know. Morto about that.

I asked for the one short response as her posts were so long and controlling the forum. I was interested to see if she could do a short response. It was the answer I expected. It didnt need to explain. I still believe she is a traitor.

[William the Grave Robber]

We need to play the percentages. As well as finding traitors, we need to look at who we see as most faithful.

We will lose a faithful at murder tonight. Traitors will go for who they feel is most faithful as they want to create doubt.

I would say 2 traitors left

[Donald the Spoofer]

My traitor to faithful level, most are just gut feeling. I wouldnt rule out one of my most faithful turning out to be a traitor though, as I said I've seen it too many times

Most traitor
Dora
Boris
Rhoda
Countess
Chris
Weyland
William
Laura
Most faithful

So my ffa would be Dora, Boris, Rhoda

[Donald the Spoofer]

Also, I'm sticking to my assumption there are 2 traitors left or there could be a conversion tonight if we banish a traitor. If there is a conversion we will obviously know there are 2 or more

[Chris the Carpenter]

12) Win conditions: The game ends when the players unanimously vote to do so (or when only 2 players remain). If the remaining players are all Faithful then the Faithful win. If there is a single Traitor (or more) remaining when the game is ended by the players, the Traitors win. The players cannot vote to end the game until the Final Banishment stage begins. Individual win conditions are slightly different to how Traitors usually work. This is fully a team game. If 2 Faithful wins, the entire Faithful team wins. If 1 Traitor wins, the entire Traitor team wins.

Just keep the end game in mind at all times now

This is very helpful. So we do have to remember it's who we really trust and we can't have two many doubts. Going by that probably does mean we should vote for Dora. 

I'm not sure about 2nd person though, I will try and read back over posts this evening. We were a bit all over the place last night so whatever way we vote tonight we need to be in agreement on it.

[Donald the Spoofer]

Also, this game would really need to go down to the final 2 assuming there are faithfuls remaining at that point. The more players remaining when the game stops the more chance there is a traitor

[Dora the Explorer]

On the words of our Betty....

Anyone wanna join me on a Rhoda wagon?

[Dora the Explorer]

Also, this game would really need to go down to the final 2 assuming there are faithfuls remaining at that point. The more players remaining when the game stops the more chance there is a traitor

Never that simple.

We don't know what game mechanics or prizes come up tomorrow, we don't know if the last remaining traitor can manipulate votes it may not I've even been been friar that, was doing it. What happens you vote a faithful out with me tonight and there is two traitors left and one has ability to block votes.

After tonight's round table and two of us banished we will reveal ourselves and If it goes like tv series you won't know who is faithful or traitor tomorrow when they are banished.

[lorcand1990]

Players, this will be your last official Round Table Banishment of the series. Survive tonight & you are one step closer to the final. However, as I mentioned this morning, we will have a double banishment tonight, so your path to the final is in no way clear.

As before, the 2 players with the most votes will be banished from the castle tonight.

Are you confident in your reads? Who is still giving you that niggling feeling? Who can you trust? If you have something to say, now is the time to say it.

And so, for the final time, I will say….

ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION HAS BEGUN

Voting will take place between 8.30 & 9.30pm.

[Donald the Spoofer]

Also, this game would really need to go down to the final 2 assuming there are faithfuls remaining at that point. The more players remaining when the game stops the more chance there is a traitor

Never that simple.

We don't know what game mechanics or prizes come up tomorrow, we don't know if the last remaining traitor can manipulate votes it may not I've even been been friar that, was doing it. What happens you vote a faithful out with me tonight and there is two traitors left and one has ability to block votes.

After tonight's round table and two of us banished we will reveal ourselves and If it goes like tv series you won't know who is faithful or traitor tomorrow when they are banished.

What I'm saying is, as long as I remain in the game I will not choose to end it. The most sure way I have to win this for the faithfuls, and it would be the same for every faithful, is to take it to the last 2 players.

[Dora the Explorer]

Traitors are relaxed I see. No one has a concrete plan outside of me.

[Dora the Explorer]

See how the very minute the Insta banish was up Rhoda declared themselves busy for the day.

Think about it. Don't need to fight or can't fight on their own.

[William the Grave Robber]

Traitors are relaxed I see. No one has a concrete plan outside of me.

Go on, I'll bite.

Lay it out for me. If we keep you in how do see it playing out?

[Dora the Explorer]

Traitors are relaxed I see. No one has a concrete plan outside of me.

Go on, I'll bite.

Lay it out for me. If we keep you in how do see it playing out?

I flip green, ye also banish A low poster faithful and then say ooops we did nothing all day today to win this game.

[William the Grave Robber]

Most traitor
Dora
Rhoda
Boris
Countess
Chris
Donald
Weyland
Laura
William
Most faithful

I think Dora has to be resolved.
I wouldn't be comfortable having Rhoda at end game and same with Boris.

[William the Grave Robber]

Go on, I'll bite.

Lay it out for me. If we keep you in how do see it playing out?

I flip green, ye also banish A low poster faithful and then say ooops we did nothing all day today to win this game.

You've ignored my question.

Say I vote elsewhere ie not you and you don't go tonight. Do you think you'll be murdered?
Who would you bring to end game with you.

[Chris the Carpenter]

See how the very minute the Insta banish was up Rhoda declared themselves busy for the day.

Think about it. Don't need to fight or can't fight on their own.

Your putting up one hell of a fight anyway Dora, I actually don't know if you are a tratior but if group wants to go that way then I will vote that way but I'm going to spend time now going over Rhoda posts.

[Dora the Explorer]

Traitors are relaxed I see. No one has a concrete plan outside of me.

Go on, I'll bite.

Lay it out for me. If we keep you in how do see it playing out?

Sorry I misread your question haha. I don't want you to keep me in ye have to vote me I can't argue agaisnt it I haven't argued different all day. 

Only thing I can defend myself and say if I was a traitor I wouldn't be stupid enough to vote on same wagon as same traitor all game long and that's not a good enough argument. 

I want ye to put effort into finding maybe the last remaining traitor and not go on a wild chance. There's no discussion at all in here, people are saying they gonna do read backs and blah blah blah the only one that put in any proper effort is Laura.

[Dora the Explorer]

See how the very minute the Insta banish was up Rhoda declared themselves busy for the day.

Think about it. Don't need to fight or can't fight on their own.

Your putting up one hell of a fight anyway Dora, I actually don't know if you are a tratior but if group wants to go that way then I will vote that way but I'm going to spend time now going over Rhoda posts.

Good and do that cause someone needs too.
See how many times did she go hard on a traitor. How many times they voted to boot a known traitor. How much effort they put into finding any other traitor apart from say it's me and friar since last night.

I know I'm faithful so I know ye are gonna have to find at least one more traitor after booting me and it's gonna be too late after tonight cause ye Prob won't get a read.
That's why I wanted to be banished early so ye would put in more effort tongiht.

Ye won't have Laura tomorrow to do the work for ye.

[William the Grave Robber]

Go on, I'll bite.

Lay it out for me. If we keep you in how do see it playing out?

Sorry I misread your question haha. I don't want you to keep me in ye have to vote me I can't argue agaisnt it I haven't argued different all day. 

Only thing I can defend myself and say if I was a traitor I wouldn't be stupid enough to vote on same wagon as same traitor all game long and that's not a good enough argument. 

I want ye to put effort into finding maybe the last remaining traitor and not go on a wild chance. There's no discussion at all in here, people are saying they gonna do read backs and blah blah blah the only one that put in any proper effort is Laura.

You misread my question but still didn't answer it!
I want you to lay it out as if you are kept in tonight.
Last chance as I'm off thread from 7

[Dora the Explorer]

I flip green, ye also banish A low poster faithful and then say ooops we did nothing all day today to win this game.

You've ignored my question.

Say I vote elsewhere ie not you and you don't go tonight. Do you think you'll be murdered?
Who would you bring to end game with you.

My 3 that I trust would be Laura 100% and you and for some strange reason I liked borris few posts last night and today. Donno why on borris cause I thought he was low poster traitor yesterday evening but I liked how he reacted to the shock of last night.

That's why it's so hard tho we have so many low posters we can't get clear picture of everyone.