The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[Donald the Spoofer]

Is anyone taking any notice of my posts? I think Zeena put in the kill order.

Could everyone at some point today give their thoughts on Maeve's murder in plain sight.

There must have an interaction between Maeve and a traitor to trigger her death OR some code somewhere that pointed to her.

It's the only concrete lead we have towards traitors.

Without going back to check, I dont have time, did anyone post a post number? like #123 or post 123? If so, who were those post numbers belonging to? 
This could be a way of murdering in plain sight albeit, a very obvious way

[lorcand1990]

@lorcand1990  just to confirm, we can Google the answers?

I'm stuck on 1

Aside from no conferring, no other rules apply. Yes, Google is permitted

[Boris the Fool]

You mean the Genie Boris? You mention him and he appears? I stated my reasons why I would be voting for him on Day One. Couldn’t vote him then because he was a newbie. My reasons are all there if you want to go back and read the first roundtable. 

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t go back in my previous posts and check me out?

So first, specifically on me - I really don’t think that’s true - the genie thing. One time I realised that we’d gone from 2 pages to 7 so I started with the most recent posts where there was one about little old me and I replied and then went back to catch up properly. Other than that maybe you could cite some cases?
Second, even if it was true … why would that be significant? If you’re thinking that traitors would be giving each other heads up when they’re getting mentions you’d still have to be checking into see the warning.
third it really isn’t easy to go back and find everything that anyone just said so I think as a courtesy to other voters it’s better to repeat your reasons. especially if we’re trying to persuade each other.

  … not that I should be helping your organise your boris wagon 😜

[Chris the Carpenter]

Im voting Boris. Would have done so last night but he’s a noob.

@Chris the Carpenter
my post at last nights roundtable. You were active in the thread at the time too as you posted right after this one. 

I didn’t post much at all last night as players complained about me spamming so this one couldn’t have got lost in my noise.

You were the very first to vote last night and you only posted Vote Boris. Why would you open the voting system with that when we had spent pages and pages about the 3 people who we thought murdered in plain sight? Makes no sense to me and doesn't look like you were supporting the team in trying to find who murdered in plain sight. Was it to create confusion?

[Countess Markievicz]

@Prada the Seamstress I will play the game as I feel I can and how I want to play it.

Please don't try and dictate how I play.

I am here to find traitors as I am sure you are.

[Prada the Seamstress]

@Prada the Seamstress I will play the game as I feel I can and how I want to play it.

Please don't try and dictate how I play.

I am here to find traitors as I am sure you are.

In no way am I dictating how you play. I'm prodding to see if I can get a reaction. Defensive much?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

@Prada the Seamstress I will play the game as I feel I can and how I want to play it.

Please don't try and dictate how I play.

I am here to find traitors as I am sure you are.

That's not a fair post to Prada. They were genuinely trying to engage with you.

It's not nice being questioned but it's the only way to get information about people. It's hard but you have to get used to it.
Feel free to question others as much as you want.

[McDonald the Farmer]

I don’t know whether the Countess and Prada are distancing themselves from each other seeing as Prada is on the ropes. But on the read back I’m doing now where the countess accused William, then Rhoda but it was Prada who should have been accused first, I’m questioning how they could be on a team.

For reference go to post 370 and read that page.

[McDonald the Farmer]

AI’ve just noticed that Maeve replied to that post from Prada quoting it. That post number is 242.

The post right before it (#No241) was written by……..

Magda The Maid!

@Donald the Spoofer


this might help you

[Countess Markievicz]

@Prada the Seamstress I will play the game as I feel I can and how I want to play it.

Please don't try and dictate how I play.

I am here to find traitors as I am sure you are.

In no way am I dictating how you play. I'm prodding to see if I can get a reaction. Defensive much?

Well I guess you got your reaction. I contributed last night when you randomly called me out and then thankfully Gordon stepped in the defend me. I explained why I was behind in catching up yesterday. 

As a result I voted for you.

I just dont think you like my contribution as it called you out and now your mission is to try and provoke a reaction and make me look bad again.

[Countess Markievicz]

I don’t know whether the Countess and Prada are distancing themselves from each other seeing as Prada is on the ropes. But on the read back I’m doing now where the countess accused William, then Rhoda but it was Prada who should have been accused first, I’m questioning how they could be on a team.

For reference go to post 370 and read that page.

I explained how I messed that up. I misread them missed up the tag. 

Appreciate the need to question it again but it was a a genuine mistake

[Betty the Beggar]

Could everyone at some point today give their thoughts on Maeve's murder in plain sight.

There must have an interaction between Maeve and a traitor to trigger her death OR some code somewhere that pointed to her.

It's the only concrete lead we have towards traitors.

Its Prada


Case closed. If someone gets a bullet today that's where I'd send it

[Rhoda the Spinster]

In no way am I dictating how you play. I'm prodding to see if I can get a reaction. Defensive much?

Well I guess you got your reaction. I contributed last night when you randomly called me out and then thankfully Gordon stepped in the defend me. I explained why I was behind in catching up yesterday. 

As a result I voted for you.

I just dont think you like my contribution as it called you out and now your mission is to try and provoke a reaction and make me look bad again.

That was me not Prada.
I'm perfectly entitled to call out any and all behaviour I see as suspicious. That is the entire point of the game.
I don't care whether you vote for me or not. It's a complete waste of a vote as I am faithful, and it is acting out of spite instead of genuinely trying to figure out who is a traitor. 
Ultimately that makes you look bad not me.
If you want to look genuine focus on the task at hand, which is finding traitors.

[Boris the Fool]

Could everyone at some point today give their thoughts on Maeve's murder in plain sight.

There must have an interaction between Maeve and a traitor to trigger her death OR some code somewhere that pointed to her.

It's the only concrete lead we have towards traitors.

I will but I won’t get a chance to post till after 6. I agree that’s the best place to start.

[Countess Markievicz]

Well I guess you got your reaction. I contributed last night when you randomly called me out and then thankfully Gordon stepped in the defend me. I explained why I was behind in catching up yesterday. 

As a result I voted for you.

I just dont think you like my contribution as it called you out and now your mission is to try and provoke a reaction and make me look bad again.

That was me not Prada.
I'm perfectly entitled to call out any and all behaviour I see as suspicious. That is the entire point of the game.
I don't care whether you vote for me or not. It's a complete waste of a vote as I am faithful, and it is acting out of spite instead of genuinely trying to figure out who is a traitor. 
Ultimately that makes you look bad not me.
If you want to look genuine focus on the task at hand, which is finding traitors.

Yes it was you. Not Rhoda. I am having a nightmare with the names. 

If what you did was genuine then fair enough but @Prada the Seamstress i stand by my point above in relation to this morning's behaviour

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Sorry, I've a big work day today so I won't be quite as engaged as I was yesterday.

I'll try to trace back through this Prada thread later but my first instinct is to trust Betty's instinct on her (for obvious reasons).

I'm currently still a bit stuck on Friar (no change in reasons).

I'm also trying to look at where I haven't been looking, which is at the people I find quite helpful. With that in mind, McDonald... you come across as a really good faithful, you do your research, you aren't afraid to point a finger. I'm just wondering if it's possible you're a traitor trying to steer the pack or overwhelm the conversation with information. That is literally all I have on you because otherwise I think you come across as a good faithful.

[McDonald the Farmer]

I don’t know whether the Countess and Prada are distancing themselves from each other seeing as Prada is on the ropes. But on the read back I’m doing now where the countess accused William, then Rhoda but it was Prada who should have been accused first, I’m questioning how they could be on a team.

For reference go to post 370 and read that page.

I explained how I messed that up. I misread them missed up the tag. 

Appreciate the need to question it again but it was a a genuine mistake

I get that you made a mistake which is why at that moment in time it doesn’t look like you and Prada would be teammates. Like, if you were teammates and had discussed a little tit for tat distancing, you wouldn’t have made the mistake …… twice!

But your most recent posts viewed in isolation could very well be a fake disagreement to distance yourself from Prada

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I don’t know whether the Countess and Prada are distancing themselves from each other seeing as Prada is on the ropes. But on the read back I’m doing now where the countess accused William, then Rhoda but it was Prada who should have been accused first, I’m questioning how they could be on a team.

For reference go to post 370 and read that page.

They keep mixing up me and Prada. I'm not certain whether genuine confusion, a ploy or a little bit of both, eg. leaning into it once it happened a few times.
Not a fan of the defensive attitude, but I've seen it more in non wolves than wolves.

They are not a priority for me for the moment. 
I can't see how anyone other than Prada is the killer of Maeve.
I'm also very interested that William was focused on Pat and never Prada for the killer, and basically declined to answer this morning when asked directly about the possible killer. I don't see any reason to do that.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Sorry, I've a big work day today so I won't be quite as engaged as I was yesterday.

I'll try to trace back through this Prada thread later but my first instinct is to trust Betty's instinct on her (for obvious reasons).

I'm currently still a bit stuck on Friar (no change in reasons).

I'm also trying to look at where I haven't been looking, which is at the people I find quite helpful. With that in mind, McDonald... you come across as a really good faithful, you do your research, you aren't afraid to point a finger. I'm just wondering if it's possible you're a traitor trying to steer the pack or overwhelm the conversation with information. That is literally all I have on you because otherwise I think you come across as a good faithful.

I took onboard the spamming complaints yesterday and reduced my post count considerably. Today I am trying to condense my thoughts and have been giving posts numbers so all players can go back and read for themselves and make their own minds up. 

I’m just being me. While you’re here though, I did quote you yesterday asking you a question. Would you mind responding when you get a chance?

[Dora the Explorer]

Hey all I have had some real life stuff to deal with today. I won't get on until around 5 to catch up. sorry can't be helped

[Prada the Seamstress]

Thanks for the questions, its nice to feel involved. I am not sure who I will vote for yet, it all depends how today pans out, but my eyes were opened last night. 

From an honest view as a newbie, there is a lot of non stop posting by some individuals, loaded with accusations. Opinions flying left right and centre. A lot of them not measured. 

Therefore it is difficult to follow everything. I dont know if this is a tactic or what but at times it certainly clouds the game. 

For me I am looking closely at who voted who last night and thinking about that.

Morning all. I'd agree as a fellow newbie that some people seem to post for the sake of it and are pointing fingers left , right and centre making it hard to follow at times but thats the game I suppose!
I haven't had time to look back over old posts (in fact keeping upmwith the new ones is hard enough) but I'll try later in today. The Friar has a few real life errands to run this morning

You're right, that is the game!
Between work and other life commitments, it can be difficult to keep on top of everything. I'm always missing posts. However it's good to give your opinion about what people are doing.

[Prada the Seamstress]

@Maeve the Madam what are your thoughts? You appeared around the time of the task also? Did you get an alert telling you?

I’m not spamming just using my phone to play and copying my notes over into the reply box doesn’t work properly. 
I’m starting at Day One and looking at any and all Maeve posts, mentions, etc. it’s possible the murder in plain sight task started on Day One not Night One

You're right, it could have started at any stage. It might also not be just me that everyone should be focusing on.

[Prada the Seamstress]

@lorcand1990  just to confirm, we can Google the answers?

I'm stuck on 1

Spoof your answer Donald, you'd be good at that

You are too right!
@Donald the Spoofer , why were you afraid to cast your vote last night without knowing where the "wagon" was?
Did you have no thoughts of your own?
Were you not falling the thread?

[Prada the Seamstress]

@Chris the Carpenter
my post at last nights roundtable. You were active in the thread at the time too as you posted right after this one. 

I didn’t post much at all last night as players complained about me spamming so this one couldn’t have got lost in my noise.

You were the very first to vote last night and you only posted Vote Boris. Why would you open the voting system with that when we had spent pages and pages about the 3 people who we thought murdered in plain sight? Makes no sense to me and doesn't look like you were supporting the team in trying to find who murdered in plain sight. Was it to create confusion?

What were you doing to find out who murdered in plain sight?
Macdonald was on Boris from day one.

[Prada the Seamstress]

Could everyone at some point today give their thoughts on Maeve's murder in plain sight.

There must have an interaction between Maeve and a traitor to trigger her death OR some code somewhere that pointed to her.

It's the only concrete lead we have towards traitors.

I will but I won’t get a chance to post till after 6. I agree that’s the best place to start.

I agree also! I just hope someone can find something because that post isn't a task!

[Prada the Seamstress]

That was me not Prada.
I'm perfectly entitled to call out any and all behaviour I see as suspicious. That is the entire point of the game.
I don't care whether you vote for me or not. It's a complete waste of a vote as I am faithful, and it is acting out of spite instead of genuinely trying to figure out who is a traitor. 
Ultimately that makes you look bad not me.
If you want to look genuine focus on the task at hand, which is finding traitors.

Yes it was you. Not Rhoda. I am having a nightmare with the names. 

If what you did was genuine then fair enough but @Prada the Seamstress i stand by my point above in relation to this morning's behaviour

Spoof your answer Donald, you'd be good at that

You are too right!
@Donald the Spoofer , why were you afraid to cast your vote last night without knowing where the "wagon" was?
Did you have no thoughts of your own?
Were you not falling the thread?

Sorry autocorrect. This is supposed to be following. Not falling!

[Prada the Seamstress]

That was me not Prada.
I'm perfectly entitled to call out any and all behaviour I see as suspicious. That is the entire point of the game.
I don't care whether you vote for me or not. It's a complete waste of a vote as I am faithful, and it is acting out of spite instead of genuinely trying to figure out who is a traitor. 
Ultimately that makes you look bad not me.
If you want to look genuine focus on the task at hand, which is finding traitors.

Yes it was you. Not Rhoda. I am having a nightmare with the names. 

If what you did was genuine then fair enough but @Prada the Seamstress i stand by my point above in relation to this morning's behaviour

I apologize if it felt like I was telling you how to play the game.
However, this is the game. You have said you are a new player. It can be quite difficult to jump in and starting posting, we have all been there at some stage. My style of play is I will try engage with quiet players directly by asking questions to give them an opportunity to get involved.
That's all I was trying to do, give you an opportunity to have your voice heard.
It's a game. Regardless of your alignment, everyone playing should get a chance to be engaged and contribute (RIP Kevin).
At this stage you don't want to contribute and that's fine too. But be prepared for others, apart from me, to find that suss.

[Countess Markievicz]

Dropping out until later today. Real life came asking. Talk later folks

[William the Grave Robber]

I don’t know whether the Countess and Prada are distancing themselves from each other seeing as Prada is on the ropes. But on the read back I’m doing now where the countess accused William, then Rhoda but it was Prada who should have been accused first, I’m questioning how they could be on a team.

For reference go to post 370 and read that page.

They keep mixing up me and Prada. I'm not certain whether genuine confusion, a ploy or a little bit of both, eg. leaning into it once it happened a few times.
Not a fan of the defensive attitude, but I've seen it more in non wolves than wolves.

They are not a priority for me for the moment. 
I can't see how anyone other than Prada is the killer of Maeve.
I'm also very interested that William was focused on Pat and never Prada for the killer, and basically declined to answer this morning when asked directly about the possible killer. I don't see any reason to do that.

Easy answer to this Rhoda. It's not that I was not interested in Prada, it's that I thought the Pat post was a better avenue to go down. You obviously thought similar because you posted similar after.
I declined to answer this morning because I have to start again with my thinking. Not just going to throw a name out for no reason.

[William the Grave Robber]

I don't mind what McDonald is posting in general, but spamming the thread with user posts is the kind of thing that seems helpful but doesn't really focus anyone. Can be a way for traitors to engage in the hunt without really hunting.

For what it's worth Gordon is on my potential sketch pile at the moment.

Interesting post 1

[William the Grave Robber]

I just think that one post like that is too easy to complete for a murder, and too easily identified.
We are missing something more.

Out of the 3 "suspect" posts around Maeve, I would (obviously) fall on it being Gordon.
It's a lot more subtle, and the misspelling was across more than one post.

It's supposed to be at risk of being easily identifiable. That is the point. High risk, high reward.
Your post fits the bill on that point more than the others.

I think you killed in plain sight. Pat is also a traitor and there was Magda/Maeve discussion in the backroom, hence Lorcan got confused.

Interesting post 2

[McDonald the Farmer]

Day One Prize Contenders
Benjamin (Faithful)
Ina May (Faithful)
Prada
Friar Tuck
Laura
McDonald - remove from list verified by Lorcan
Betty - alignment check
Pat (faithful)
Vincent (faithful)
William - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day One Banishment votes were manipulated
Zeena (faithful) 6 votes - Prada, Gordon (faithful), McDonald, William, Rhoda, Amy (faithful)
Benjamin (faithful) 6 votes - Laura, Dora, Friar, Boris, Magda (faithful), Betty
Betty 4 votes - Vincent (faithful), Chris, Ben (faithful), Ina (faithful)
Amy (faithful) 2 votes - Maeve (faithful), Countess
William 1 vote - Weyland
Vincent (faithful) 1 vote - Donald
Maeve (faithful) 1 vote - Pat (faithful)
Dora 1 vote - Zeena (faithful)

Did not vote - Frank (faithful), Lilly (faithful)

D2 prize contenders
McDonald - shield
Rhoda
Betty
Friar
Pat (faithful)
Laura - seer check
Donald - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day Two double banishment
Pat (faithful) 5 votes - William, Friar, Dora, Chris, Donald
Gordon (faithful) 5 votes - Vincent (faithful), Weyland, Boris, Pat (faithful), Prada
Prada 3 votes - Rhoda, Gordon (faithful), Betty
Friar 1 vote - Laura
Rhoda 1 vote - Countess
McDonald 1 vote - Ina (faithful)

Did not vote - Lilly (faithful)

[William the Grave Robber]

It is not inconceivable that you are bussing Prada. In fact it would actually be a fairly good play for the traitors.

If I had a bullet I'd shoot Prada.

I'd be peeking Rhoda.

[William the Grave Robber]

It is not inconceivable that you are bussing Prada. In fact it would actually be a fairly good play for the traitors.

If I had a bullet I'd shoot Prada.

I'd be peeking Rhoda.

The above is directed at Rhoda to leave no doubt for anyone.

[Prada the Seamstress]

Day One Prize Contenders
Benjamin (Faithful)
Ina May (Faithful)
Prada
Friar Tuck
Laura
McDonald - remove from list verified by Lorcan
Betty - alignment check
Pat (faithful)
Vincent (faithful)
William - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day One Banishment votes were manipulated
Zeena (faithful) 6 votes - Prada, Gordon (faithful), McDonald, William, Rhoda, Amy (faithful)
Benjamin (faithful) 6 votes - Laura, Dora, Friar, Boris, Magda (faithful), Betty
Betty 4 votes - Vincent (faithful), Chris, Ben (faithful), Ina (faithful)
Amy (faithful) 2 votes - Maeve (faithful), Countess
William 1 vote - Weyland
Vincent (faithful) 1 vote - Donald
Maeve (faithful) 1 vote - Pat (faithful)
Dora 1 vote - Zeena (faithful)

Did not vote - Frank (faithful), Lilly (faithful)

D2 prize contenders
McDonald - shield
Rhoda
Betty
Friar
Pat (faithful)
Laura - seer check
Donald - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day Two double banishment
Pat (faithful) 5 votes - William, Friar, Dora, Chris, Donald
Gordon (faithful) 5 votes - Vincent (faithful), Weyland, Boris, Pat (faithful), Prada
Prada 3 votes - Rhoda, Gordon (faithful), Betty
Friar 1 vote - Laura
Rhoda 1 vote - Countess
McDonald 1 vote - Ina (faithful)

Did not vote - Lilly (faithful)

This is all legit, checks out. Thanks Macdonald!

[William the Grave Robber]

Day One Prize Contenders
Benjamin (Faithful)
Ina May (Faithful)
Prada
Friar Tuck
Laura
McDonald - remove from list verified by Lorcan
Betty - alignment check
Pat (faithful)
Vincent (faithful)
William - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day One Banishment votes were manipulated
Zeena (faithful) 6 votes - Prada, Gordon (faithful), McDonald, William, Rhoda, Amy (faithful)
Benjamin (faithful) 6 votes - Laura, Dora, Friar, Boris, Magda (faithful), Betty
Betty 4 votes - Vincent (faithful), Chris, Ben (faithful), Ina (faithful)
Amy (faithful) 2 votes - Maeve (faithful), Countess
William 1 vote - Weyland
Vincent (faithful) 1 vote - Donald
Maeve (faithful) 1 vote - Pat (faithful)
Dora 1 vote - Zeena (faithful)

Did not vote - Frank (faithful), Lilly (faithful)

D2 prize contenders
McDonald - shield
Rhoda
Betty
Friar
Pat (faithful)
Laura - seer check
Donald - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day Two double banishment
Pat (faithful) 5 votes - William, Friar, Dora, Chris, Donald
Gordon (faithful) 5 votes - Vincent (faithful), Weyland, Boris, Pat (faithful), Prada
Prada 3 votes - Rhoda, Gordon (faithful), Betty
Friar 1 vote - Laura
Rhoda 1 vote - Countess
McDonald 1 vote - Ina (faithful)

Did not vote - Lilly (faithful)

Prada first onto Zeena and last onto Gordon

Rhoda late onto to Zeena and then onto her buddy Prada

[William the Grave Robber]

Day One Prize Contenders
Benjamin (Faithful)
Ina May (Faithful)
Prada
Friar Tuck
Laura
McDonald - remove from list verified by Lorcan
Betty - alignment check
Pat (faithful)
Vincent (faithful)
William - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day One Banishment votes were manipulated
Zeena (faithful) 6 votes - Prada, Gordon (faithful), McDonald, William, Rhoda, Amy (faithful)
Benjamin (faithful) 6 votes - Laura, Dora, Friar, Boris, Magda (faithful), Betty
Betty 4 votes - Vincent (faithful), Chris, Ben (faithful), Ina (faithful)
Amy (faithful) 2 votes - Maeve (faithful), Countess
William 1 vote - Weyland
Vincent (faithful) 1 vote - Donald
Maeve (faithful) 1 vote - Pat (faithful)
Dora 1 vote - Zeena (faithful)

Did not vote - Frank (faithful), Lilly (faithful)

D2 prize contenders
McDonald - shield
Rhoda
Betty
Friar
Pat (faithful)
Laura - seer check
Donald - insta banish verified by Lorcan

Day Two double banishment
Pat (faithful) 5 votes - William, Friar, Dora, Chris, Donald
Gordon (faithful) 5 votes - Vincent (faithful), Weyland, Boris, Pat (faithful), Prada
Prada 3 votes - Rhoda, Gordon (faithful), Betty
Friar 1 vote - Laura
Rhoda 1 vote - Countess
McDonald 1 vote - Ina (faithful)

Did not vote - Lilly (faithful)

This is all legit, checks out. Thanks Macdonald!

Well you know all the alignments anyway, so I suppose you are a good person to verify the info I suppose!

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

I have spent most of the morning, searching all sorts of terms trying to look for a task in relation to Maeve. Primary reason for searching was I was getting some questions for an innocent question I posed to Magda. The mod clarification made it go away but I agree with Prada that the post in question is a bit simple.

I found nothing else however, the only real interaction is with Prada within a timeline that would make sense.

On reviewing that sequence, I also copped we had a tie vote on night one with likely some vote manipulation. The below are the remaining living players who went into the armoury


Prada the Seamstress
Friar Tuck
Laura the Lace Mistress
McDonald the Farmer
Betty the Beggar
William the Graverobber

Prada on here too, I believe Betty got her alignment check on the back of Lauras peek. Laura immediately claimed her prize yesterday.

That leaves Prada/Friar/McDonald/William.

Logic dictates Prada goes next IMO

[William the Grave Robber]

In summary.

I think Prada carried out the murder in plain sight and Rhoda knew about it as they are on the same traitor team.

Hope that answers your question to me from this morning.

[McDonald the Farmer]

I’ve missed myself voting Boris on my last post.

One the first days banishment where there was definite vote manipulation there was clearly a 3 way race between Zeena, Ben and Betty. If we believe that Betty is a faithful then it was a 3 way race of faithfuls.

I think one of the winners of a prize caused vote manipulation of Ben which could be Laura or Friar. I also think a traitor would be in a smaller voting pool which is Countess, Weyland or Donald.

Prada has to be first out though.