The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[McDonald the Farmer]

VOTE: Benji

More of a self pres than thinking he's actually a traitor

Did you not alignment check him earlier? Or am I mistaken?

You're mistaken. He's aligned with Vincy is what I was told

So you now think him and Vinny are traitors?

Well benji is out, this could prove I'm faithful which is great but Betty looks super suspicious now

If Betty is a traitor her alignment check is likely bollocks

Its an extremely weird vote in my eyes

Where the official vote count?

There hasn't been one, on count back it looks a tie to me

and me

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zeena - prada, gordon, mcdonald, william, rhoda, amy
ben - laura, dora, tuck, boris, magda, betty
betty - vincent, chris, ben, ina
amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

Betty got the last vote? So Ben gone

Betty got the last vote? So Ben gone

Sorry no, tied vote leads to a revote 

Something fishy with the votes, mine tallies with the above

Which makes the double vote theory for Betty plausible. 
@Betty the Beggar was that it? Or are you not allowed say?

She claimed an alignment check, she hardly won two prizes

Or last vote if there is a tie. Is that what you're saying @Weyland the Blacksmith

I was wrong, OP says revotete and then chance if still a tie

There could have been a dagger in the armoury which would have given someone a double vote.

A dagger? Specific wording there

Surely she doesn't need to if it's between me and Ben? It could have been either of us, and neither flips red so it does make her look super suss.

You're the biggest beneficiary of Betty's late vote tbf

Starting with your posts in order as you were first to post after lynch closed. We are looking for clues to Magda’s murder. It could be her name was spelled out over 5 posts, could be a line in a singular post. It could be anything.

[Friar Tuck]

ben - laura, dora, tuck, boris, magda, betty

Chance to enter the Armoury
Benjamin the Alchemist
Ina May the Midwife
Prada the Seamstress
Friar Tuck
Laura the Lace Mistress
McDonald the Farmer
Betty the Beggar
Pat the Baker
Vincent the Artist
William the Graverobber

Laura, Friar and Betty on both lists.

Morning. So, not a great place to be. I can only say that I did not get anything in the armoury, and I made my case against Benji with the limited evidence there is. I got it wrong. Day 1, very little to go on.

Adding another dimension to the above.... now I may have missed the posts (so please do show the quote if I'm getting it wrong), but neither Betty nor Friar made their intention to vote for Benji known before the vote. They never had any suspicion on him.... yet they voted for him. To me, that feels suss.

You're right, I didn't make any declaration prior to voting because I really hadn't made up my mind. Then when it was pointed out that Benjamin had pretended to be new to get a pass I thought it was suspicious and with not much else to go on Day 1, I went with him

[Donald the Spoofer]

Was the murder in plain sight used in the previous game? If yes, was it figured out how?

[McDonald the Farmer]

that would be a tie, how could you betty

Poo.
Fwiw. Amy and Gordon

??

What do you mean here?

I had no tag on Zeena so better to vote on the one that would resolve something was my thinking

well, if we counted correctly, we will have to revote Zeena V Ben

as it has nothing todo with self pres anymore, where will you vote?

Ladies and Gentlemen...

@Benjamin the Alchemist has recieved the most votes and has been banished from the castle

Benjamin, could you please stand up and reveal if you are a Faithful or Traitor

👋🙋‍♂️ben

Can you explain this like I'm an idiot please? I don't follow your logic.

that means you and pat are safe tonight, right?

How?

Because betty said that ben and vin are same alignment. so vin is faithful.
why would they leave wincent alive?
making you and pat safe.
no?

There hasn't been one, on count back it looks a tie to me

and me

d1 yeetShow Content

zeena - prada, gordon, mcdonald, william, rhoda, amy
ben - laura, dora, tuck, boris, magda, betty
betty - vincent, chris, ben, ina
amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

Not with Betty under suspicion now. If Vinnie is a faithful leaving him would make him look suspicious.

If betty and vincent are alive tomorrow, betty is being flipped next.

Betty got the last vote? So Ben gone

Thats not how ties work in this game, as per the rules on page 1.

8) In the event of a tie at the Banishment Phase, there will be 1 round of re-voting. If there is still a tie the player banished will be selected by fate.

Gordons posts

[Friar Tuck]

RIP Amy and Magda 😱

[McDonald the Farmer]

Poo.
Fwiw. Amy and Gordon

Looks like I'm voted out.
So before I take my leave (as Faithful btw), I think Amy is being weird and also a bit you.
Previous sessions have taught me to look at who votes for a faifhful

Oh. Yay! But now of course I look really suspicious unless Ben is a traitor

I don't know but i had a straight choice between Zeena and Benji. Killing benji gives more info

Is that not a contradiction when you said voting me is better when you have no read on me jist above?

Elaberate while you can. This is no benifit to anyone.

Did do in post 511.

How am I being weird? Is this your explanation for the "fwiw Gordon and Amy poo" comment?

I already said you were suss to me. In fact you gave out to me saying I was Omgus-ing you. So it's hardly news.

Poo was me thinking I'd been voted out on Day 1.
Someone who voted me/Ben are traitors. You each voted for one of us.
The Betty theory is also good. 
And also Ina disappeared before vote time. Why?

Frank hasn’t posted and Lily has only 1 post so they didn’t vote.

Which makes the double vote theory for Betty plausible. 
@Betty the Beggar was that it? Or are you not allowed say?

Or last vote if there is a tie. Is that what you're saying @Weyland the Blacksmith

She claimed an alignment check, she hardly won two prizes

Claimed being the operative word.

If Betty was a Traitor and did win the prize - she picks two faithfuls and declares on thread to try gain village credit. She has a choice between Zeena and Benji to save herself and goes Benji as she knows he will be a faithful even though it looked like this would have brought us to a tie. If she went for Zeena she would still have been saved but was she worried about Zeena flipping red?

Surely she doesn't need to if it's between me and Ben? It could have been either of us, and neither flips red so it does make her look super suss.

Ah OK, I get you. Thanks

Morning all. 🌄

Zeena’s

[William the Grave Robber]

Just catching up.
Magda murdered in plain sight.
Few questions, why Magda? Will look through her posts later to see who she interacted with.
How did they murder her? I'd have to go back and see who mentions her name in their posts, maybe traitors had to name her 3 times for example

RIP Amy

[McDonald the Farmer]

Did you not alignment check him earlier? Or am I mistaken?

You're mistaken. He's aligned with Vincy is what I was told

Mmmmm Betty you could have self pressed and saved Benji your alignment peek if you have voted Zeena

I had no tag on Zeena so better to vote on the one that would resolve something was my thinking

*read

So you now think him and Vinny are traitors?

I don't know but i had a straight choice between Zeena and Benji. Killing benji gives more info

Betty voting Benji could mean she isn’t worried about him flipping red so either knows he’s a faithful (which means she’s a traitor)

Thats not the case at all. If he flips innocent or means vincy is clear

Betty got the last vote? So Ben gone

The OP has a mechanism for a tie so its not that.To the person who asked about me coming on, I set an alarm for 9.20 to give me time to read the thread and vote. I was always going to vote late as my name was in the mixer, that's just common sense.


Im struggling to understand why people would think I wouldn't vote for Benji given a straight choice between him and Zeena. Benji gives twice the information. Again, that's just common sense to go for him. 
For the people saying i HAVE to go, I won a prize, announced it on thread when asked and voted to get the most information. I'm not sure what else you'd have me do?

Betty’s

[Dora the Explorer]

RIP Amy and Magda 😱

Whats your thoughts this morning? Any opinion on how magda was killed? 

What do you think about the Betty situation? How would you resolve it?

[Chris the Carpenter]

post #314

https://forumofgames.com/showthread.php?...7#pid97477
You did think there was likely a traitor there though.

Was the murder in plain sight used in the previous game? If yes, was it figured out how?

 That's a good point, if we can get that information about the last game it might help us. All I know is that the tratiors are laughing at us so we would want to get our act together today if we are to find one.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Poo.
Fwiw. Amy and Gordon

Elaberate while you can. This is no benifit to anyone.

Benjamin flipping faithful puts huge focus back on Betty for me. She told us Benji and Vincent were aligned and then voted Benji with no clear reasoning, if she believed her own result that vote makes very little sense. Was she trying to save Zeena?

Also fully aware I was one of first on benji I stand by my reasoning for it and for first day of the game you have to go on hunch.

Sorry Benjamin

Good morning all.
I was able to try and read back during the night and figured out why it looks to me why Amy had so many posts about being a Faithful.
When somebody quoted her AND when she quoted anybody who quoted her quote, her original post still stands out prominently when I was scrolling through which made it look like they were different posts so apologies for the confusion.
That's not saying I won't vote for her again if I have my suspicions though 😉.
Is there any way of collapsing quotes until you want to read them on this site as it's very difficult to follow otherwise?

Wasn't it just two people that pushed it tho with similar posts or am I wrong?

I read back and I didn't feel like there was much of a mention of faithful from her until them two them it because a topic where propel were quoting each other.

Dora’s

[William the Grave Robber]

@Friar Tuck

@Boris the Fool

@Chris the Carpenter

@Weyland the Blacksmith

If you were lucky enough to win a prize today. What prize (let's assume the same prizes as yesterday )would you choose and how would you use it?

[Pat the Baker]

Good morning everyone. At your first breakfast there was no murder to announce, however today it is a very different case. Not all of you have posted this morning, but for poor Amy the Singer, they were unable to. Last night, the Traitors murdered Amy.

Oh by the way, there’s not just one player who isn’t with us this morning. The Traitors were very busy yesterday. They killed poor Magda the Maid, by Murder in Plain Sight.

You don’t need me to tell you that both Amy and Magda were Faithful.

I can also announce that tonight there will be a double banishment! The 2 players with the most votes will be eliminated. If there is a tie between the top 2 players, they will both be eliminated. If there is a tie between 3 or more players there will be a re-vote. If there is a tie between the 2nd & 3rd placed players there will be a re-vote between those two players.

I’ll be back later to give you details on today’s task. I hope you're thirsty for more. In the meantime, feel free to chat amongst yourself. You should have plenty to discuss…..

Glad to be still here but sorry to see Amy go as had her as a faithful. Don’t really have a read on Magda

[McDonald the Farmer]

Poo.
Fwiw. Amy and Gordon

Anagrams are a feature I. This game and you will find MAGDA within Amy and Gordon

[Pat the Baker]

Might be as well to keep me for the moment as I'm linked with Betty so to speak so probably keeps me in the mix for banishment whereas Amy was not in contention in that sense.

Not necessarily. If a safe traitor (eg you) was murdered it throws suspicion on the two who weren't. 
Not saying you are a traitor, but you weren't necessarily immune from being murdered.

This doesn’t make sense as Traitors can’t murder Traitors - only vote to vanish them

[McDonald the Farmer]

Y
N
O
R
D
O
N

P
O
O
F
W
I
W

the remaining letters from that posts once MAGDA removed

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Not necessarily. If a safe traitor (eg you) was murdered it throws suspicion on the two who weren't. 
Not saying you are a traitor, but you weren't necessarily immune from being murdered.

This doesn’t make sense as Traitors can’t murder Traitors - only vote to vanish them

I mistyped. I meant faithful obviously.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

@Friar Tuck

@Boris the Fool

@Chris the Carpenter

@Weyland the Blacksmith

If you were lucky enough to win a prize today. What prize (let's assume the same prizes as yesterday )would you choose and how would you use it?

Assuming the Bona Fidas of yesterday's claim, id alignment check you and Pat.

The shield, it would depend on the caveats that came with it.

Insta banish Betty or Dora at this point but would wait until closer to the roundtable and todays activities

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

@Friar Tuck

@Boris the Fool

@Chris the Carpenter

@Weyland the Blacksmith

If you were lucky enough to win a prize today. What prize (let's assume the same prizes as yesterday )would you choose and how would you use it?

Assuming the Bona Fidas of yesterday's claim, id alignment check you and Pat.

The shield, it would depend on the caveats that came with it.

Insta banish Betty or Dora at this point but would wait until closer to the roundtable and todays activities

@William the Grave Robber what about you

[Friar Tuck]

RIP Amy and Magda 😱

Whats your thoughts this morning? Any opinion on how magda was killed? 

What do you think about the Betty situation? How would you resolve it?

The killing of Magda is surprising but if it happened in plajn sight there should be a somewhat obvious tell in last night's posts, how else could it be done?

Betty is still potentially a traitor imo especially after escaping a second killing in the night, why did they pick Magda and not Betty?

[Pat the Baker]

This doesn’t make sense as Traitors can’t murder Traitors - only vote to vanish them

I mistyped. I meant faithful obviously.

You mistyped twice?? I know it’s easily done (I did it myself yesterday) but I find it odd you’d do it twice in one post.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Is anyone taking any notice of my posts? I think Zeena put in the kill order.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

@McDonald the Farmer the anagram thing seems a reach to me as I don't see a true anagram there, unless someone can make one with the remainder.

I do think it's odd that Zeena singled out Gordon and Amy, I don't get that reasoning.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I mistyped. I meant faithful obviously.

You mistyped twice?? I know it’s easily done (I did it myself yesterday) but I find it odd you’d do it twice in one post.

That is one mistype. If Vincent was Faithful, murdering him would put the other two under suspicion.
Therefore him not being murdered gives a slight suspicion of being a traitor.

[Vincent the Artist]

Is anyone taking any notice of my posts? I think Zeena put in the kill order.

Yes indeed, but I'm struggling to find a "kill" order outside of what you mention relating to the anagram, it could be that? But might be too abstract unless the intent was agreed between lorc and the Traitors so as not to be obvious to the rest of us.

I'd agree though that her behaviour is unusual

[McDonald the Farmer]

@McDonald the Farmer the anagram thing seems a reach to me as I don't see a true anagram there, unless someone can make one with the remainder.

I do think it's odd that Zeena singled out Gordon and Amy, I don't get that reasoning.

That post was very random at the time and I’m sure she’s a traitor so threw those names out on the off chance vote manipulation/double vote didn’t work.

[Dora the Explorer]

@Friar Tuck

@Boris the Fool

@Chris the Carpenter

@Weyland the Blacksmith

If you were lucky enough to win a prize today. What prize (let's assume the same prizes as yesterday )would you choose and how would you use it?

Assuming the Bona Fidas of yesterday's claim, id alignment check you and Pat.

The shield, it would depend on the caveats that came with it.

Insta banish Betty or Dora at this point but would wait until closer to the roundtable and todays activities

Just out of interest what's your reason for Insta banashing me? And if its at that stage how come you haven't mentioned me or talked about any issue to get clarification?

I've no Prob been on someones radar it's what we meant to do but just unusual that first time you mention someone is when you would Insta banish them.

[Friar Tuck]

@Friar Tuck

@Boris the Fool

@Chris the Carpenter

@Weyland the Blacksmith

If you were lucky enough to win a prize today. What prize (let's assume the same prizes as yesterday )would you choose and how would you use it?

I think that of the prizes the instaban could be most useful if you had eyes on someone. Still, as I said in my previous post suspicious of Betty so if I got it right now this morning, I'd use it on her.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Is anyone taking any notice of my posts? I think Zeena put in the kill order.

I am - I think the Zeena thing isn't bad but it doesn't have the real ring of a solution to me. 

I've also read back on the thread looking for consecutive posts or lines which spell out either MAGDA or MAID but I haven't been able to find anything (that's not to say that it's not there though) 

One thing I did note was that Magda was the 2nd last voter on Ben (Betty was the last vote - I think Betty's a traitor) but again, that seems like a stretch that that could be related to the murder in plain sight.

We should 100% be able to spot how Magda was killed

[Vincent the Artist]

You mistyped twice?? I know it’s easily done (I did it myself yesterday) but I find it odd you’d do it twice in one post.

That is one mistype. If Vincent was Faithful, murdering him would put the other two under suspicion.
Therefore him not being murdered gives a slight suspicion of being a traitor.

This is why I reckon I wasn't murdered and Amy was. Amy was pretty clear faithful and by offing her they removed an active faithful and left me in here with that element of doubt so as to reduce heat elsewhere.

[Friar Tuck]

What prize would you choose yourself @William the Grave Robber and who would you use it on?

[Pat the Baker]

You mistyped twice?? I know it’s easily done (I did it myself yesterday) but I find it odd you’d do it twice in one post.

That is one mistype. If Vincent was Faithful, murdering him would put the other two under suspicion.
Therefore him not being murdered gives a slight suspicion of being a traitor.

If he is a traitor then Betty is too so we see when one of them flips

[Dora the Explorer]

Is anyone taking any notice of my posts? I think Zeena put in the kill order.

Yeah I was following what you were posting I was waiting for you to put in a bit of insight at the end..

That post from Zeena was odd at the time and I did call her out on it and explain which I think she ignored. Are you basing it purely on the anagram in it?

[Chris the Carpenter]

@William the Grave Robber I don't think it would come as a surprise to anyone that I would insta ban Betty if I had the chance.

However I'm not going to lie, I would of course be tempted to take the sheild to protect myself from murder.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Poo.
Fwiw. Amy and Gordon

Anagrams are a feature I. This game and you will find MAGDA within Amy and Gordon

Actually, now that I look at the voting - Amy & Gordon voted for Zeena but they're weren't the last two voters or anything: 

zeena - prada, gordon, mcdonald, william, rhoda, amy
zeena - prada, gordon, mcdonald, william, rhoda, amy
@Zeena Warrior Princess, why did you "Poo" those two voters in particular?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

That is one mistype. If Vincent was Faithful, murdering him would put the other two under suspicion.
Therefore him not being murdered gives a slight suspicion of being a traitor.

This is why I reckon I wasn't murdered and Amy was. Amy was pretty clear faithful and by offing her they removed an active faithful and left me in here with that element of doubt so as to reduce heat elsewhere.

I think that's reasonable as well. I think the traitors were in a win win situation last night were whoever they murdered slightly cast shade on someone else.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

Give me people you're thinking of voting for and why?

You at the moment

I like Amy so far, McDonald seems sharp and I also like Pat.

I dont particularly like Betty's timeline so could vote there. There's a plausible option she a) didnt win a prize and did what she did to appear villagery (a bit risky) or b) won a different prize she doesnt want us to know about.

Dora came in and made some accusations towards Benjamin being mentioned and skipped over the Betty stuff. Was a post that felt very much like a post that was posted for the sake of it

Laura sits as a possible, 7 posts, substances is low but a new player so will give a slide for today.

Im between yourself, Dora and Betty for tonight tbh

Assuming the Bona Fidas of yesterday's claim, id alignment check you and Pat.

The shield, it would depend on the caveats that came with it.

Insta banish Betty or Dora at this point but would wait until closer to the roundtable and todays activities

Just out of interest what's your reason for Insta banashing me? And if its at that stage how come you haven't mentioned me or talked about any issue to get clarification?

I've no Prob been on someones radar it's what we meant to do but just unusual that first time you mention someone is when you would Insta banish them.

I mentioned you twice yesterday and included you as one of my possibles to vote for. I dont think you read well, I stand by that

[Dora the Explorer]

Whats your thoughts this morning? Any opinion on how magda was killed? 

What do you think about the Betty situation? How would you resolve it?

The killing of Magda is surprising but if it happened in plajn sight there should be a somewhat obvious tell in last night's posts, how else could it be done?

Betty is still potentially a traitor imo especially after escaping a second killing in the night, why did they pick Magda and not Betty?

Where did I pick magda? Am I missing something? I vote for Benji and had Betty second in my list. 

Obviously we are all potentially traitors I don't think anyone is anyway clear. If Betty turns traitor do you think Vincent might be too?

[Dora the Explorer]

You at the moment

I like Amy so far, McDonald seems sharp and I also like Pat.

I dont particularly like Betty's timeline so could vote there. There's a plausible option she a) didnt win a prize and did what she did to appear villagery (a bit risky) or b) won a different prize she doesnt want us to know about.

Dora came in and made some accusations towards Benjamin being mentioned and skipped over the Betty stuff. Was a post that felt very much like a post that was posted for the sake of it

Laura sits as a possible, 7 posts, substances is low but a new player so will give a slide for today.

Im between yourself, Dora and Betty for tonight tbh

Just out of interest what's your reason for Insta banashing me? And if its at that stage how come you haven't mentioned me or talked about any issue to get clarification?

I've no Prob been on someones radar it's what we meant to do but just unusual that first time you mention someone is when you would Insta banish them.

I mentioned you twice yesterday and included you as one of my possibles to vote for. I dont think you read well, I stand by that

No problem I'll have a read back at your posts.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

Is anyone taking any notice of my posts? I think Zeena put in the kill order.

Based on the anagram thoughts of Amy/Gordon