The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[Ina May the Midwife]

what are we up to now.. 4 night checks/peeks/watches from max 12 villagers.. seems exessive.. we know 2 of those were definately true

I mean, Magda was suss about all the peeking and stuff going on so I'm pretty sure her head would have exploded if she had the knowledge of 3 other villagers from the get go😂

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Right im outta here for a bit. My head is wrecked.

[Mick the Drunk]

If it is an action, the action would be carried out regardless of a wolf or villager being lynched. The action is worded "change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed", the votes don't matter. It is then RNG as to who of the wolves. 

I don't fully understand this either TBQH, however, on balance of probabilities, this by itself is not a smoking gun. The balance of probability points squarely at you.

 
Yet no other ring bearer used this power until last night ?

I reckon it was a power only available to the final ring bearer

[Rhoda the Spinster]

So what you are saying Mick is that it is Laura who we need to lynch? Or at the very least, not Ben?

[Mick the Drunk]

There is absolutely no way that Magda nor Pat wouldn't have used that hobbit info to form a village core. I refuse to believe they never once considered that they had a massive, massive power at lynch time and decided, nah.... We'll vote seperately with other unknown aligned players.

Its just strange that if you have people that you know are good that you wouldn’t form an alliance with them especially if we are to believe Ben that they knew who each other were

[William the Grave Robber]

right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

[William the Grave Robber]

There is absolutely no way that Magda nor Pat wouldn't have used that hobbit info to form a village core. I refuse to believe they never once considered that they had a massive, massive power at lynch time and decided, nah.... We'll vote seperately with other unknown aligned players.

Its just strange that if you have people that you know are good that you wouldn’t form an alliance with them especially if we are to believe Ben that they knew who each other were

prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

[Mick the Drunk]

So what you are saying Mick is that it is Laura who we need to lynch? Or at the very least, not Ben?

No I believe that one of them is the final ring bearer and that is why the power was enacted last night and the reason to Bens question of why none of the other hobbits used it. I think we should lynch Ben as his story seems more unbelievable

[Ina May the Midwife]

right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever 😂

[Mick the Drunk]

Its just strange that if you have people that you know are good that you wouldn’t form an alliance with them especially if we are to believe Ben that they knew who each other were

prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

So you think if Ben is telling the truth they were just given each other names but couldn’t actually talk to each other?

[Frank the Tank]

right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

But Vincent didn't know about the power, as both players claim. So he didn't know it would happen so his vote is relevant.

He couldn't risk staying on Laura if she is a wolf, as the vote was too close and they didn't know what way it would go.

[Mick the Drunk]

right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

If it was Laura who used the rings power then how would Vincent know his vote was irrelevant?

[Mick the Drunk]

right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

But Vincent didn't know about the power, as both players claim. So he didn't know it would happen so his vote is relevant.

He couldn't risk staying on Laura if she is a wolf, as the vote was too close and they didn't know what way it would go.

But if she is a wolf why would another wolf vote for her when it was between her and Ben and he could have easily moved to Ben and not raise suspicions?

[Ina May the Midwife]

prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

So you think if Ben is telling the truth they were just given each other names but couldn’t actually talk to each other?

Course they could though. On thread. They know they're good so they'll coordinate much easier with reads and votes

[William the Grave Robber]

right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

But Vincent didn't know about the power, as both players claim. So he didn't know it would happen so his vote is relevant.

He couldn't risk staying on Laura if she is a wolf, as the vote was too close and they didn't know what way it would go.

thanks, that prob solves it for me and it means ben gotta go.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

@William the Grave Robber Laura posted explaining what happened.

It's definitely ring connected anyways, the mods post even alluded to it



Initially I thought that it might be an auto power from Vinnie as captain of the Uruk-Hai protecting his leader, but based on the mod post I think the simplest explanation is that the ring randed the lynch onto someone voting Laura. Or possibly just amongst everyone else.

@Laura the Lace Mistress can you elaborate further?

One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

@William the Grave Robber, I posted this earlier, this answers your question.

[Frank the Tank]

Its just strange that if you have people that you know are good that you wouldn’t form an alliance with them especially if we are to believe Ben that they knew who each other were

prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

Why are you coming up with an imaginary scenario for Ben?
Ben claims they knew each other, if this is what happened, he could tell us all day long. He didn't.

[William the Grave Robber]

prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

So you think if Ben is telling the truth they were just given each other names but couldn’t actually talk to each other?

was only speculation. but wouldn't be surprised if they knew each other, they wouldnt share a backroom.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

What mountain is Ben climbing and why?

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

seven dwarves? hardly when she was pipping in here to say she was a hobbit...

7th member of the fellowship.

@Benjamin the Alchemist, @Rhoda the Spinster


Here ye go, I had a post asking how a roled player could reveal if in trouble, my seventh post.

[Mick the Drunk]

Vote gone in on Ben

[William the Grave Robber]

So what you are saying Mick is that it is Laura who we need to lynch? Or at the very least, not Ben?

No I believe that one of them is the final ring bearer and that is why the power was enacted last night and the reason to Bens question of why none of the other hobbits used it. I think we should lynch Ben as his story seems more unbelievable

if that was the case, wouldn't that make ben the ring bearer? 

he was top of the lynch votes.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

You being lynched wasn't guaranteed, are you even reading the thread?

Edward switched to me just before 9, Frank didn't declare so it looked like I was gone as much as you.

Vincent, the flipped wolf, stayed on me, he wasn't worried about me being lynched. In fact, Ina has quoted the post where he said to either lynch me or lynch outside the two of us.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

And I swear there’s a load of you that have been compromised and are now on the dark side. Some of you are not even attempting to look at both sides.

Who has been compromised and by whom?

[William the Grave Robber]

One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

@William the Grave Robber, I posted this earlier, this answers your question.

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

[Frank the Tank]

@William the Grave Robber, I posted this earlier, this answers your question.

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

How would Laura be able to tell us how it worked then? And Ben can't?

[Ina May the Midwife]

What mountain is Ben climbing and why?

Mount Doom I presume is his claim. Lol.

More like climbing the many steps of the Tower of Orthanc in Isengard mind you. He's an ould codger is Saruman, like yourself 😅

[Frank the Tank]

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

You being lynched wasn't guaranteed, are you even reading the thread?

Edward switched to me just before 9, Frank didn't declare so it looked like I was gone as much as you.

Vincent, the flipped wolf, stayed on me, he wasn't worried about me being lynched. In fact, Ina has quoted the post where he said to either lynch me or lynch outside the two of us.

I didn't declare and left my post before lynch open on purpose.
I felt it was obvious there was a wolf up for lunch due to the flurry of activity. I didn't want to give anything away and let the votes lie how they happened. I actually thought I would be the last vote, but was pipped by Edward.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I still got it though Ina, xxx

[Ina May the Midwife]

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

You being lynched wasn't guaranteed, are you even reading the thread?

Edward switched to me just before 9, Frank didn't declare so it looked like I was gone as much as you.

Vincent, the flipped wolf, stayed on me, he wasn't worried about me being lynched. In fact, Ina has quoted the post where he said to either lynch me or lynch outside the two of us.

Vincent also was the first to claim Ben was softing being the last hobbit all day but when I asked Ben for proof he told me to do my own research.

Go figure eh.

[William the Grave Robber]

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

How would Laura be able to tell us how it worked then? And Ben can't?

i dunno. but i just cant buy that if i was gonna be lynched last night (or you, or whoever), a random wolf would have been lynched instead. 

if this mechanic exists, it can only kick in if ring bearer is gonna by lynched IMO. 

and if i believe that, i gotta vote laura.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

@Laura the Lace Mistress If the Hobbits all knew one another as Ben claims, why did Pat vote for you?

Ben is a wolf, we didn't know each other.

Think about it, there was a SK, you, the seer, Prada had an alignment check, Vernon was Aragorn, Frank had a one off alignment check, Ina has her horn.

Now, if us four hobbits all knew each other how many wolves would be needed to balance that out? Unless most of you are wolves it just doesn't make sense.

[Ina May the Midwife]

@Laura the Lace Mistress If the Hobbits all knew one another as Ben claims, why did Pat vote for you?

Ben is a wolf, we didn't know each other.

Think about it, there was a SK, you, the seer, Prada had an alignment check, Vernon was Aragorn, Frank had a one off alignment check, Ina has her horn.

Now, if us four hobbits all knew each other how many wolves would be needed to balance that out? Unless most of you are wolves it just doesn't make sense.

Tis a fine horn too!

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

why did Pat vote for Laura then?

D1 vote on you. Needed resolving.

Have a look, who else voted with me on D1? 

The other 2 have flipped.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

@William the Grave Robber, I posted this earlier, this answers your question.

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

No, it's was set in motion before the lynch because it looked like I was going.

Read back, no one seemed to have been reading the thread. I quoted Edward and dropped the hint, he didn't get it. It was Ina who had to point it out. I was scrambling and asking people to change, I had to set it in motion as no one was listening.

[Ina May the Midwife]

How would Laura be able to tell us how it worked then? And Ben can't?

i dunno. but i just cant buy that if i was gonna be lynched last night (or you, or whoever), a random wolf would have been lynched instead. 

if this mechanic exists, it can only kick in if ring bearer is gonna by lynched IMO. 

and if i believe that, i gotta vote laura.

So you're going to believe that there were four hobbit villagers who knew each other from the start over some random ring theory. 

Ok then.

[Ina May the Midwife]

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

No, it's was set in motion before the lynch because it looked like I was going.

Read back, no one seemed to have been reading the thread. I quoted Edward and dropped the hint, he didn't get it. It was Ina who had to point it out. I was scrambling and asking people to change, I had to set it in motion as no one was listening.

And even in spite of me being as subtle as a bull in a china shop, it had to be spelled out completely 😂

[Frank the Tank]

How would Laura be able to tell us how it worked then? And Ben can't?

i dunno. but i just cant buy that if i was gonna be lynched last night (or you, or whoever), a random wolf would have been lynched instead. 

if this mechanic exists, it can only kick in if ring bearer is gonna by lynched IMO. 

and if i believe that, i gotta vote laura.

Are you just trolling us or trying to give Ben some false hope?
What about everything else? Look at Ben's posts

[William the Grave Robber]

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

No, it's was set in motion before the lynch because it looked like I was going.

Read back, no one seemed to have been reading the thread. I quoted Edward and dropped the hint, he didn't get it. It was Ina who had to point it out. I was scrambling and asking people to change, I had to set it in motion as no one was listening.

can you post them, or give a rough time these hints were dropped?

[William the Grave Robber]

i dunno. but i just cant buy that if i was gonna be lynched last night (or you, or whoever), a random wolf would have been lynched instead. 

if this mechanic exists, it can only kick in if ring bearer is gonna by lynched IMO. 

and if i believe that, i gotta vote laura.

Are you just trolling us or trying to give Ben some false hope?
What about everything else? Look at Ben's posts

no, just trying to figure out whats what.