The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[William the Grave Robber]

I don’t see why there’s a bid deal being made out of Pat’s post tbh. I don’t see how saying “guessing more” aligns with being a wolf.

benjamin you naughty boy.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

Benjamin is posting? I was missing from the thread until today basically and I have more posts than them. They are not posting, their only contribution to date has been the discourse over use of AI. Also 7 posts is " a lot" of fluff? I would contend 7 isn't a lot. 
As for Vernon, if you read their posts there is more than just the asking about pocketing. And they have admitted themselves that they have played elsewhere. 
What have you spotted on Betty?

What have you added?

A lot of fluff refers to quality, not quantity. 

Can you see anything suspicious in Benjamin's posts? I can't as yet and not all of us can post all day.

I'm not sure on Betty yet so I'll ignore that, why don't you ask the other person who said basically the same thing?

[Wendy the Wench]

It's not for their first post. It's for saying that Jesus was a cyclist.
That's just blasphemy!

So you want a players 'last words' based on that? Dodge

You said you didn't have any last words, so what does it matter. Also, how is that dodge?

[Magda the Maid]

So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

I only lost my ear in the end. It's good to be here

Voting Vincent for missing the obvious "it's good to be ear" joke 😜😂

[Wendy the Wench]

Will, do you have some receipts on ben?

[Pat the Baker]

So you want a players 'last words' based on that? Dodge

You said you didn't have any last words, so what does it matter. Also, how is that dodge?

You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

[Wendy the Wench]

You said you didn't have any last words, so what does it matter. Also, how is that dodge?

You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

No.
Did it make your heart race?

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

I’m seeing multiple posts when I click reply.

@William the Grave Robber what’s naughty about saying what I see or in the case of the post of Pat’s - what I don’t see?

[Frank the Tank]

Ah here, not a hope that I can write the way you lot can. I’ve a hard enough time reading it!

Should we really be using ChatGPT or whatever the AI is called? How can we read a player if they’re copying and pasting a considerable chunk of their post? I’m not a fan and now I’m sucked into a conversation that I never thought I’d be having playing werewolf.

If this is about me, then everything above the disclaimer is me.

 
I know. I’d personally like to see everybody use their own words when explaining stuff to other players. It’s an important part of the game seeing if someone slips up in how they answer or phrase their post. 

Copying and pasting parts of the OP being the exception.

Never heard the phrase random voting stage till the AI said it. First lynch can be a stab in the dark for sure but there will be players who put the work in and believe (rightly or wrongly) in their first vote. The wolf votes are never random as they will discuss them as a pack.

Pocketing in its correct form would be a wolf cosying up to a villager by agreeing with the villager in the hope that said villager sees them in a good light because they think the same way. Can only confirm someone was pocketing after they’re dead and their alignment revealed.

That’s my take on those phrases.

Benjamin is posting? I was missing from the thread until today basically and I have more posts than them. They are not posting, their only contribution to date has been the discourse over use of AI. Also 7 posts is " a lot" of fluff? I would contend 7 isn't a lot. 
As for Vernon, if you read their posts there is more than just the asking about pocketing. And they have admitted themselves that they have played elsewhere. 
What have you spotted on Betty?

What have you added?

A lot of fluff refers to quality, not quantity. 

Can you see anything suspicious in Benjamin's posts? I can't as yet and not all of us can post all day.

I'm not sure on Betty yet so I'll ignore that, why don't you ask the other person who said basically the same thing?

I never challenged you for saying my posts are fluff, I would expect nothing else when I had been missing for most of the first 24 hours of the game due to RL.
However, suggesting Benjamin is "posting" when they hadn't been on thread since yesterday with a whole 4 posts of basically questioning the use of AI, and not commenting on the game at all, is what I am questioning in your read. Where exactly is the quality there? Can you point that out? 
In relation to Betty, are you just parroting what the other person said or can you stand by your analysis?

[Pat the Baker]

You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

No.
Did it make your heart race?

Oh yeah I'm a quivering mess here, can't cope

[Magda the Maid]

Vote gone in on William, the posts last night, plus todays postings and now trying to shut discussion down

is this really trying to shut down conversation? thats weak as piss. 


i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though

Why did you cut out the rest of your own post.. which gives the context to the first bit..

i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though, cos i'm assuming if its in the game it'll be announced if a conversion takes place.

Basically saying let's not talk about it now cause we will find out later if it's in the game.

[Magda the Maid]

I’m seeing multiple posts when I click reply.

@William the Grave Robber what’s naughty about saying what I see or in the case of the post of Pat’s - what I don’t see?

There is a line above the quick reply box that you can click on to clear the quotes from your reply

[Pat the Baker]

Just reading back on Laura's read list. A lot of village leans on it, which I find a bit unusual

[William the Grave Robber]

I’m seeing multiple posts when I click reply.

@William the Grave Robber what’s naughty about saying what I see or in the case of the post of Pat’s - what I don’t see?

most likely nothing. my thought was a wolf defending (and pocketing) someone he knows aint a wolf.

[Wendy the Wench]

You said you didn't have any last words, so what does it matter. Also, how is that dodge?

You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

If you were shot, and you flipped green, then maybe i'd be lynch candidate. If you were shot and you flipped red, well the wolves would quickly eat me.
You were not shot, so you didn't flip anything, but now you are saying it's a dodge move.
But wont explain how!
Just saying stuff like imagined surprise that i don't see how its dodge doesn't advance anything, as you are not explaining yourself.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Just reading back on Laura's read list. A lot of village leans on it, which I find a bit unusual

So what you're saying is we should lynch Laura then right😋

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Ah here, not a hope that I can write the way you lot can. I’ve a hard enough time reading it!

Should we really be using ChatGPT or whatever the AI is called? How can we read a player if they’re copying and pasting a considerable chunk of their post? I’m not a fan and now I’m sucked into a conversation that I never thought I’d be having playing werewolf.

 
I know. I’d personally like to see everybody use their own words when explaining stuff to other players. It’s an important part of the game seeing if someone slips up in how they answer or phrase their post. 

Copying and pasting parts of the OP being the exception.

Never heard the phrase random voting stage till the AI said it. First lynch can be a stab in the dark for sure but there will be players who put the work in and believe (rightly or wrongly) in their first vote. The wolf votes are never random as they will discuss them as a pack.

Pocketing in its correct form would be a wolf cosying up to a villager by agreeing with the villager in the hope that said villager sees them in a good light because they think the same way. Can only confirm someone was pocketing after they’re dead and their alignment revealed.

That’s my take on those phrases.

What have you added?

A lot of fluff refers to quality, not quantity. 

Can you see anything suspicious in Benjamin's posts? I can't as yet and not all of us can post all day.

I'm not sure on Betty yet so I'll ignore that, why don't you ask the other person who said basically the same thing?

I never challenged you for saying my posts are fluff, I would expect nothing else when I had been missing for most of the first 24 hours of the game due to RL.
However, suggesting Benjamin is "posting" when they hadn't been on thread since yesterday with a whole 4 posts of basically questioning the use of AI, and not commenting on the game at all, is what I am questioning in your read. Where exactly is the quality there? Can you point that out? 
In relation to Betty, are you just parroting what the other person said or can you stand by your analysis?

Called out the AI use, answered a question, that's posting. Day 0 yesterday so there isn't much to go on, I said I'm neutral on them as they haven't enough posts to base an opinion on. He might be in work today and can't post.

I can stand by my post on Betty, I'm just not sure it's wise to do so at this moment, make of that what you will.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

I’m seeing multiple posts when I click reply.

@William the Grave Robber what’s naughty about saying what I see or in the case of the post of Pat’s - what I don’t see?

most likely nothing. my thought was a wolf defending (and pocketing) someone he knows aint a wolf.

Gotcha. I’m not on the dark side though.

[William the Grave Robber]

is this really trying to shut down conversation? thats weak as piss. 


i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though

Why did you cut out the rest of your own post.. which gives the context to the first bit..

i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though, cos i'm assuming if its in the game it'll be announced if a conversion takes place.

Basically saying let's not talk about it now cause we will find out later if it's in the game.

the bit i cut out gives context not to waste energy discussing something we will find out if it happens.

you think i'm trying to shut down convo. i am simply saying to put your energy elsewhere.

do you want to talk about maybe gandalf being bad? no, cos its a waste of time. thats not shutting down conversation.

[Frank the Tank]

I never challenged you for saying my posts are fluff, I would expect nothing else when I had been missing for most of the first 24 hours of the game due to RL.
However, suggesting Benjamin is "posting" when they hadn't been on thread since yesterday with a whole 4 posts of basically questioning the use of AI, and not commenting on the game at all, is what I am questioning in your read. Where exactly is the quality there? Can you point that out? 
In relation to Betty, are you just parroting what the other person said or can you stand by your analysis?

Called out the AI use, answered a question, that's posting. Day 0 yesterday so there isn't much to go on, I said I'm neutral on them as they haven't enough posts to base an opinion on. He might be in work today and can't post.

I can stand by my post on Betty, I'm just not sure it's wise to do so at this moment, make of that what you will.

You said "Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out" 
You aren't explaining how someone with 4 posts could be classed as posting and how they were figuring things out? 

TBQH it sounds like wolf clearing wolf. Is Benjamin posting in your backroom perchance?

[Pat the Baker]

You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

If you were shot, and you flipped green, then maybe i'd be lynch candidate. If you were shot and you flipped red, well the wolves would quickly eat me.
You were not shot, so you didn't flip anything, but now you are saying it's a dodge move.
But wont explain how!
Just saying stuff like imagined surprise that i don't see how its dodge doesn't advance anything, as you are not explaining yourself.

Ok grand I'll explain more, I thought you'd understand tbf.. Let's say you do that to a rolled villager, they panic and reveal as roled. Not a great play is it?

[Ina May the Midwife]

First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

On the bolded part Laura, you can simply say, I'm RV don't lynch me OR claim your role. Just don't say what character you are.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

I’d like to hear more from Betty. Their posts this morning gave the impression they’d be back as the day progressed but they’ve been silent so far.

[Pat the Baker]

Just reading back on Laura's read list. A lot of village leans on it, which I find a bit unusual

So what you're saying is we should lynch Laura then right😋

Oh yeah definitely, go for it! (jokes)

Unsure of them tbh

[Wendy the Wench]

If you were shot, and you flipped green, then maybe i'd be lynch candidate. If you were shot and you flipped red, well the wolves would quickly eat me.
You were not shot, so you didn't flip anything, but now you are saying it's a dodge move.
But wont explain how!
Just saying stuff like imagined surprise that i don't see how its dodge doesn't advance anything, as you are not explaining yourself.

Ok grand I'll explain more, I thought you'd understand tbf.. Let's say you do that to a rolled villager, they panic and reveal as roled. Not a great play is it?

Any last words?

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Called out the AI use, answered a question, that's posting. Day 0 yesterday so there isn't much to go on, I said I'm neutral on them as they haven't enough posts to base an opinion on. He might be in work today and can't post.

I can stand by my post on Betty, I'm just not sure it's wise to do so at this moment, make of that what you will.

You said "Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out" 
You aren't explaining how someone with 4 posts could be classed as posting and how they were figuring things out? 

TBQH it sounds like wolf clearing wolf. Is Benjamin posting in your backroom perchance?

I’m not a wolf. I have no control over Laura’s opinion of me and I wasn’t getting involved until you questioned my alignment.

[Pat the Baker]

Ok grand I'll explain more, I thought you'd understand tbf.. Let's say you do that to a rolled villager, they panic and reveal as roled. Not a great play is it?

Any last words?

[Magda the Maid]

First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

On the bolded part Laura, you can simply say, I'm RV don't lynch me OR claim your role. Just don't say what character you are.

The problem with that is there is no way to counter it.. I would have thought that would be obvious.. like that means any wolf being lynched could say it 🤔

[Betty the Beggar]

I’d like to hear more from Betty. Their posts this morning gave the impression they’d be back as the day progressed but they’ve been silent so far.

Apologies, I just had a godawful day at work so trying to parse a lot of info right now. Great that there's so much engagement but playing on the phone is just super difficult to get my head around everything. Will def come back with something resembling a conclusion soon.

[Prada the Seamstress]

Ok grand I'll explain more, I thought you'd understand tbf.. Let's say you do that to a rolled villager, they panic and reveal as roled. Not a great play is it?

Any last words?

If you're shooting Ben, I'd be interested in who you're peeking?

[Ina May the Midwife]

On the bolded part Laura, you can simply say, I'm RV don't lynch me OR claim your role. Just don't say what character you are.

The problem with that is there is no way to counter it.. I would have thought that would be obvious.. like that means any wolf being lynched could say it 🤔

I mean generally a role has a power. 
Seer peeks, vig shoots, etc etc. 
If it's a latent ability then well yeah it becomes more complicated.

[Frank the Tank]

Any last words?

If you're shooting Ben, I'd be interested in who you're peeking?

Speaking of, let's have a game of peek, shoot, protect.
Who would everyone's choice be at this stage?

For me:
Peek: Pat the Baker to finally put an end to the endless questioning of their opening post.
Shoot: Laura, their reads list is dodgy af.
Protect: Vincent, he has already lost one ear. Don't want anymore body parts flying around this early. I want to hear more from them.

[Pat the Baker]

Betty- still fluffy, lets see what they come back with later

Edward- sweet feck all to go on, under the radar

Not a fan of Laura's read list, bit too positive.

Still not getting much use from Williams posts either

Rhoda: very liitle to go on.. called out agressive wolfy play from ladies but then suspicious of betty, who isnt aggressive

Wendy- not really sure what they're up to with me. generally like reaction testing though!

Will probably park vern for the time being as they haven't played with us before

[Prada the Seamstress]

Don't worry Ben, nobody shooting you, the post above was meant to reference Pat, was reading your post while typing.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Betty- still fluffy, lets see what they come back with later

Edward- sweet feck all to go on, under the radar

Not a fan of Laura's read list, bit too positive.

Still not getting much use from Williams posts either

Rhoda: very liitle to go on.. called out agressive wolfy play from ladies but then suspicious of betty, who isnt aggressive

Wendy- not really sure what they're up to with me. generally like reaction testing though!

Will probably park vern for the time being as they haven't played with us before

Honestly, Rhodas answer surprised me I was sure they were gonna mention me when they said aggressive. I'm tempted to vote there but then Betty comes back with a nothing burger response and more promises about thoughts later. 🤷🏻

[Magda the Maid]

The problem with that is there is no way to counter it.. I would have thought that would be obvious.. like that means any wolf being lynched could say it 🤔

I mean generally a role has a power. 
Seer peeks, vig shoots, etc etc. 
If it's a latent ability then well yeah it becomes more complicated.

It's right there in the OP..

Game Rules

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[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Betty and Magda were my suspicions. I'll have to read back as one of them had a really good read on the game. Almost too good. So either someone with insider knowledge or a very experienced player.
However now that it turns out that they were right in a lot of their supposition, I don't know if that makes it more or less suspicious.
Also one of them references a follow up post from the GM and there was no follow up post.... at least, not on here as far as I can see
As I say, I'll need to look back over the posts and see.
Sadly have a few World of Man issues to attend to today before I return to matters of Middle Earth

Did you find anything regarding the “follow up” paragraph of this quoted post?

[Vincent the Artist]

I only lost my ear in the end. It's good to be here

Voting Vincent for missing the obvious "it's good to be ear" joke 😜😂

Definitely a missed opportunity on my part 😅

[Betty the Beggar]

My own thoughts at the moment and hopefully this won't come off as too fluffy even though it could be argued a lot of what's gone in the last few pages could serve a pillow factory but I digress.

In terms of shoot peak protect

Shoot: Wendy - just something off about their style, feel it could be argued as reaction testing but could just be a noisy wolf trying to line up convenient lynchs.

Peek: Ina - I think they're playing well enough so worth checking their alignment. Other option would be Magda, also a high poster could be worth a look.

Protect - this I can't call, I don't trust anyone quite enough for that regardless. Maybe Ben? I don't know if the heat they've received is based on little more than poking and prodding over wolf numbers. Either way feels unproductive.

I'm currently planning on voting Wendy tonight.

[Magda the Maid]

Shoot - Frank, as I'd like to see him flip and would rather use the peak somewhere else.

Peak - Ina.. posts are absolutely melting my head and going one way then the other so far

Protect - at this point Wendy probably. Only real proper village lean I have