FoG Inaugural WW

[JohnGreenFan]

JGF is flat out in work but after 4pm I'll be here properly

Hi @JohnGreenFan what are your thoughts?

Nothing and HeyV are a wolf team, nothing isn't wolf hunting and heyv is a little too quiet for my liking even as a newbie, there's surely something that has come up that'd you'd question even to be like 'What does this mean'. Nothing has opted for the EVERYBODY VOTING FOR ME IS A WOLF tactic which is frustrating. 

I will likely be putting a vote on Nothing later.

[JohnGreenFan]

Sorry, not sure how that double post happened.

[Trigger]

You will have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel

[Ectoplasm]

Hi @JohnGreenFan what are your thoughts?

Nothing and HeyV are a wolf team, nothing isn't wolf hunting and heyv is a little too quiet for my liking even as a newbie, there's surely something that has come up that'd you'd question even to be like 'What does this mean'. Nothing has opted for the EVERYBODY VOTING FOR ME IS A WOLF tactic which is frustrating. 

I will likely be putting a vote on Nothing later.

I noticed the same post earlier but I'm not convinced. It's what has them on my radar but then you're there too. You've been pretty quiet yourself.

[quickbeam]

Can we agree that at 8.30pm we all say who we're voting for and that way if our seer or vig are on the line they have a chance to change our mind?

[Neowise]

I can agree to that.

[Trigger]

I've stuck my vote on CJ, for today, that may change tonight, but have it done now just in case I am not on much later..

[Trigger]

^^ I will definitely confirm any changes if any

[cee_jay]

Hi @JohnGreenFan what are your thoughts?

Nothing and HeyV are a wolf team, nothing isn't wolf hunting and heyv is a little too quiet for my liking even as a newbie, there's surely something that has come up that'd you'd question even to be like 'What does this mean'. Nothing has opted for the EVERYBODY VOTING FOR ME IS A WOLF tactic which is frustrating. 

I will likely be putting a vote on Nothing later.

I feel the same about @HeyV. The game can be intimidating, but we gave guidance earlier, so something at all could have cropped up to ask about. 
Re: nothing, I can see how knowing there are 2 votes on them being announced could be an easy way for wolves to hide and lynch them. However wasn't one of the votes HeyV in which case they probably wouldn't be a team?

[Clarabel]

@Neowise are you feeling anyone at the mo? Not really question people this morning?

I feel apart from some maths and game mechanics, and site help, you haven't really been here much..

Would like to hear more from heyv, they've been radio silent but have a vote in already for nothing.

That didn't really answe6the question.

Nice deflection though.

[Clarabel]

Can we agree that at 8.30pm we all say who we're voting for and that way if our seer or vig are on the line they have a chance to change our mind?

I have book club at 7:30....so I won't be around to do that.

[quickbeam]

Just tell us now then.

Also what book are you discussing?

[Clarabel]

I have voted for jfg

[Clarabel]

Just tell us now then.

Also what book are you discussing?

American Dirt I think

I didn't even buy it.....I'm so bad.. I almost think I shouldn't go cause I never read it

[quickbeam]

Ha! Bold girl!

[Trigger]

I have voted for jfg

What's the reasoning behind that vote @Clarabel?

Genuinely interested

[Clarabel]

Ha!  Bold girl!

Too busy reading nonsense on my phone

[cee_jay]

Just tell us now then.

Also what book are you discussing?

American Dirt I think

I didn't even buy it.....I'm so bad.. I almost think I shouldn't go cause I never read it

I enjoyed it! It gets a bit slow on one part, but it is very good

[Clarabel]

I have voted for jfg

What's the reasoning behind that vote @Clarabel?

Genuinely interested

She's quiet and has had 2.5hrs to feed her face, read the thread and post some thoughts.

Quiet jfg is a tell. 

You're my other wolf but I'm not convinced.  If like to see you post a bit more to make up my mind.  (Not as in up your post counts but more hang around and interact as you have been but for longer)

[Clarabel]

American Dirt I think

I didn't even buy it.....I'm so bad.. I almost think I shouldn't go cause I never read it

I enjoyed it! It gets a bit slow on one part, but it is very good

This gives me joy to know I at least got the name.of the book right.

Can you give me cliff notes?

[Ectoplasm]

Read the whole thread back. Nothing definitely comes across as the most wolfy. I'm also suspicious of JGF though and she is naming Nothing and HeyV as a wolf team. Sometimes I hate this game.

[Ectoplasm]

Just tell us now then.

Also what book are you discussing?

American Dirt I think

I didn't even buy it.....I'm so bad.. I almost think I shouldn't go cause I never read it

I bought it, started it, put it down. Rinse and repeat a couple of times.

[JohnGreenFan]

I have voted for jfg

Purely for being quiet or is that another reason?

[Neowise]

Total Posts: 301
User	# Posts
Trigger	54
Clarabel	43
quickbeam	38
Neowise	31
nothing	31
cee_jay	30
Ectoplasm	21
Leg End Reject	17
JohnGreenFan	16
Necro	13
HeyV	6
jp liz v1	1

using my make table macro on a copy direct from who's posting

it works, yay

town
Neowise


Trigger - asking questions active like what i see
quickbeam - active player like what i see


null
cee_jay 
Ectoplasm
JohnGreenFan



Clarabel - fumbling around, post count is higher than i'd place clara

nothing - not much of anything in nothings posts, says she is not a wolf and suspects me for suspecting here

HeyV - barely posting but has voted.

jp liz v1 - who?


dead town
Leg End Reject - nrv

[JohnGreenFan]

What's the reasoning behind that vote @Clarabel?

Genuinely interested

She's quiet and has had 2.5hrs to feed her face, read the thread and post some thoughts.

Quiet jfg is a tell. 

You're my other wolf but I'm not convinced.  If like to see you post a bit more to make up my mind.  (Not as in up your post counts but more hang around and interact as you have been but for longer)

Technically that's incorrect as I ended up working until 5 and haven't even fed my face yet. Tragic scenario.

I also did come in and post my thoughts, I reckon nothing is a wolf (as I did this morning after munch) and I think heyv is a newb wolf who has been told to place a vote on nothing so it looks better in the wagonomics. Nothing even thinks themselves they're going to be lynched based on having two votes on them! They're either a defensive wolf who gave up or an unhelpful village.

Any other thoughts you'd like before book club orrrr

[Trigger]

What's the reasoning behind that vote @Clarabel?

Genuinely interested

She's quiet and has had 2.5hrs to feed her face, read the thread and post some thoughts.

Quiet jfg is a tell. 

You're my other wolf but I'm not convinced.  If like to see you post a bit more to make up my mind.  (Not as in up your post counts but more hang around and interact as you have been but for longer)

You are barking up the wrong tree with me anyways Clarbs.

I have been here all day and you are the one dipping in and out so not sure what you mean by the second part.

[JohnGreenFan]

@Neowise JP Liz posted once but isn't playing - Necro deleted the post afterwards.

[Neowise]

What's the reasoning behind that vote @Clarabel?

Genuinely interested

She's quiet and has had 2.5hrs to feed her face, read the thread and post some thoughts.

Quiet jfg is a tell. 

You're my other wolf but I'm not convinced.  If like to see you post a bit more to make up my mind.  (Not as in up your post counts but more hang around and interact as you have been but for longer)

heh, trigger is the high poster, and your post count is inflated with with lots of messed up quote posts.
you have 7 posts less than trigger but thread presence is way below triggers

[JohnGreenFan]

I'm a bit stuck on the Trigger v ceejay posts earlier. Trigger reads more town in my head but the argument also feels a bit forced??? Not sure is ceejay just trying to push Trigger off or is Trigger tunnelling her a bit. Cant decide

There was also something earlier about Neo posting maths and game mechanics which made me think, I haven't been wolf reading him this game but he's usually a very strong town read for me from the beginning so that's a little off for me.

QB I'm not getting much from but they did say they were finding it hard to juggle game and work so they will possibly be on more this evening.

I should be around now until lynch if there's any questions that were directed at me that I missed

[Clarabel]

She's quiet and has had 2.5hrs to feed her face, read the thread and post some thoughts.

Quiet jfg is a tell. 

You're my other wolf but I'm not convinced.  If like to see you post a bit more to make up my mind.  (Not as in up your post counts but more hang around and interact as you have been but for longer)

You are barking up the wrong tree with me anyways Clarbs.

I have been here all day and you are the one dipping in and out so not sure what you mean by the second part.

You've misunderstood. I'm not giving out about your lack of posting.  But rather I'd like to be be around tomorrow so I can get a better opinion.

[Clarabel]

She's quiet and has had 2.5hrs to feed her face, read the thread and post some thoughts.

Quiet jfg is a tell. 

You're my other wolf but I'm not convinced.  If like to see you post a bit more to make up my mind.  (Not as in up your post counts but more hang around and interact as you have been but for longer)

heh, trigger is the high poster, and your post count is inflated with with lots of messed up quote posts.
you have 7 posts less than trigger but thread presence is way below triggers

See above.  I've not explained correctly

[Ectoplasm]

I'm a bit stuck on the Trigger v ceejay posts earlier. Trigger reads more town in my head but the argument also feels a bit forced??? Not sure is ceejay just trying to push Trigger off or is Trigger tunnelling her a bit. Cant decide

There was also something earlier about Neo posting maths and game mechanics which made me think, I haven't been wolf reading him this game but he's usually a very strong town read for me from the beginning so that's a little off for me.

QB I'm not getting much from but they did say they were finding it hard to juggle game and work so they will possibly be on more this evening.

I should be around now until lynch if there's any questions that were directed at me that I missed

You have N and HV paired up but N earlier said that she thinks wolves voting for her. 
Tbf I found the logic weird but would wolves bus in a tight numbers game?

[Clarabel]

I'm a bit stuck on the Trigger v ceejay posts earlier. Trigger reads more town in my head but the argument also feels a bit forced??? Not sure is ceejay just trying to push Trigger off or is Trigger tunnelling her a bit. Cant decide

You have N and HV paired up but N earlier said that she thinks wolves voting for her. 
Tbf I found the logic weird but would wolves bus in a tight numbers game?

Not 2 newbies no. Absolutely not.

[JohnGreenFan]

You have N and HV paired up but N earlier said that she thinks wolves voting for her. 
Tbf I found the logic weird but would wolves bus in a tight numbers game?

Not 2 newbies no. Absolutely not.

Is nothing a newbie? This is definitely 5th game atleast no?

[Trigger]

You are barking up the wrong tree with me anyways Clarbs.

I have been here all day and you are the one dipping in and out so not sure what you mean by the second part.

You've misunderstood. I'm not giving out about your lack of posting.  But rather I'd like to be be around tomorrow so I can get a better opinion.

But it's all there in black and white..

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[nothing]

She's quiet and has had 2.5hrs to feed her face, read the thread and post some thoughts.

Quiet jfg is a tell. 

You're my other wolf but I'm not convinced.  If like to see you post a bit more to make up my mind.  (Not as in up your post counts but more hang around and interact as you have been but for longer)

Technically that's incorrect as I ended up working until 5 and haven't even fed my face yet. Tragic scenario.

I also did come in and post my thoughts, I reckon nothing is a wolf (as I did this morning after munch) and I think heyv is a newb wolf who has been told to place a vote on nothing so it looks better in the wagonomics. Nothing even thinks themselves they're going to be lynched based on having two votes on them! They're either a defensive wolf who gave up or an unhelpful village.

Any other thoughts you'd like before book club orrrr

There were two votes on me as well as several others saying they thought I was wolfy. If I'm too helpful, I'm called a wolf. And now I'm either called a wolf or unhelpful. Where's the consistency?! 

Trigger - same behaviour as usual
Ecto - bit more chatty than usual but might just be from having no issues
HeyV - super quiet, possibly from newness
Neo - decided I'm a wolf v quickly
Clara - some posting issues
JGF - quieter than usual
Cee jay - thinks helpful is a tell based on skewed data
Quickbeam - almost forgot they were playing

Nothing - nrv but comes across wolfy no matter what

Leggy - dead nrv

[JohnGreenFan]

I'm a bit stuck on the Trigger v ceejay posts earlier. Trigger reads more town in my head but the argument also feels a bit forced??? Not sure is ceejay just trying to push Trigger off or is Trigger tunnelling her a bit. Cant decide

There was also something earlier about Neo posting maths and game mechanics which made me think, I haven't been wolf reading him this game but he's usually a very strong town read for me from the beginning so that's a little off for me.

QB I'm not getting much from but they did say they were finding it hard to juggle game and work so they will possibly be on more this evening.

I should be around now until lynch if there's any questions that were directed at me that I missed

You have N and HV paired up but N earlier said that she thinks wolves voting for her. 
Tbf I found the logic weird but would wolves bus in a tight numbers game?

That's a fair point about the numbers. In my head I thinking nothing told HeyV to vote for them, because nothing already thought they were going to be lynched this evening. So that HeyV looks good when nothing flips wolf.

I am willing to consider that I've been overthinking.
But I still think nothing is a wolf even if heyv is just a quiet, mildly-overwhelmed-by-the-game villager

[cee_jay]

I'm a bit stuck on the Trigger v ceejay posts earlier. Trigger reads more town in my head but the argument also feels a bit forced??? Not sure is ceejay just trying to push Trigger off or is Trigger tunnelling her a bit. Cant decide

There was also something earlier about Neo posting maths and game mechanics which made me think, I haven't been wolf reading him this game but he's usually a very strong town read for me from the beginning so that's a little off for me.

QB I'm not getting much from but they did say they were finding it hard to juggle game and work so they will possibly be on more this evening.

I should be around now until lynch if there's any questions that were directed at me that I missed

He is tunnelling. I don't think I can say anything more on the one post he suspects me on, so I have just left it. He has voted for me, personally I think it's very weak reasoning, but that's his right. His game. He plays as he sees it. 
It isn't a forced fight on my side, but I do believe @Trigger is finding a very weak reason to vote me. 
I'm NRV, so if I have to go, better me than a roled player having to reveal themselves.

[nothing]

Not 2 newbies no. Absolutely not.

Is nothing a newbie? This is definitely 5th game atleast no?

4th game, a beginner maybe, but not a newbie

[JohnGreenFan]

Technically that's incorrect as I ended up working until 5 and haven't even fed my face yet. Tragic scenario.

I also did come in and post my thoughts, I reckon nothing is a wolf (as I did this morning after munch) and I think heyv is a newb wolf who has been told to place a vote on nothing so it looks better in the wagonomics. Nothing even thinks themselves they're going to be lynched based on having two votes on them! They're either a defensive wolf who gave up or an unhelpful village.

Any other thoughts you'd like before book club orrrr

There were two votes on me as well as several others saying they thought I was wolfy. If I'm too helpful, I'm called a wolf. And now I'm either called a wolf or unhelpful. Where's the consistency?! 

Trigger - same behaviour as usual
Ecto - bit more chatty than usual but might just be from having no issues
HeyV - super quiet, possibly from newness
Neo - decided I'm a wolf v quickly
Clara - some posting issues
JGF - quieter than usual
Cee jay - thinks helpful is a tell based on skewed data
Quickbeam - almost forgot they were playing

Nothing - nrv but comes across wolfy no matter what

Leggy - dead nrv

To be honest I'm not entirely sure where the whole helpful thing came out of? Like you've given a list of players here but no mention of who you think is a wolf. Your reads are also just copies of what other players have said - from what I remember we've only played one game together so for you to say I'm 'quieter than usual' doesn't hold much weight. The same with Ecto - are you basing that on the previous game where @Ectoplasm spent a lot of time on the phone to the broadband company... And subsequently turned out to be a wolf?

I didn't think you were a new player but if you are, it's easier I think not to get caught up in the meta of 'person X is quiet when they're a wolf and posts a lot when they're village' because playstyles change and general circumstances change too. They're easy traps to fall into.

You said earlier you thought wolves were voting for you, based on Neos admission that he could see that HeyV was voting for you, and Neo was voting for you. Do you think both of them are wolves?
If you do, did you think they were wolves before they voted for you, or is it only because they voted for you?

If you don't think they're wolves, or think just one is a wolf, who do you think is the wolf team? Who are you planning on voting for this evening?