The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[Rhoda the Spinster]

If anyone gets an alignment check I think one between Betty and either Weyland or Zeena (top contenders at the moment for kill in plain sight).

I think going for suspicious people is most likely option to get a disalignment if that makes sense.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Betty voting Benji could mean she isn’t worried about him flipping red so either knows he’s a faithful (which means she’s a traitor)

Can you explain this like I'm an idiot please? I don't follow your logic.

If Betty was a Traitor and did win the prize - she picks two faithfuls and declares on thread to try gain village credit. She has a choice between Zeena and Benji to save herself and goes Benji as she knows he will be a faithful even though it looked like this would have brought us to a tie. If she went for Zeena she would still have been saved but was she worried about Zeena flipping red?

that means you and pat are safe tonight, right?

No still in danger along with Vincent.

If Betty is a traitor she'd know if Zeena was too, unless this is a roundabout way to say she saved a fellow traitor?

Yea that’s what I meant about being worried about Zeena flipping red.

By my count we've 22 declared votes on the thread.

I don't think we've a declared vote from Lilly or Frank.

Frank hasn’t posted and Lily has only 1 post so they didn’t vote.

If betty and vincent are alive tomorrow, betty is being flipped next.

Well Betty will defo be alive as she isn’t on the list.

I suspect another prize earlier.

I say this is most likely rather than Betty lying about what prize she would as she would be quickly found out.

Surely she doesn't need to if it's between me and Ben? It could have been either of us, and neither flips red so it does make her look super suss.

She would if you and her are Traitors as voting Benji saves you

Pat’s

[Friar Tuck]

The killing of Magda is surprising but if it happened in plajn sight there should be a somewhat obvious tell in last night's posts, how else could it be done?

Betty is still potentially a traitor imo especially after escaping a second killing in the night, why did they pick Magda and not Betty?

Where did I pick magda? Am I missing something? I vote for Benji and had Betty second in my list. 

Obviously we are all potentially traitors I don't think anyone is anyway clear. If Betty turns traitor do you think Vincent might be too?

I didn't say you picked Magda, I asked why did they (the traitors) choose her

[McDonald the Farmer]

Well benji is out, this could prove I'm faithful which is great but Betty looks super suspicious now

Well this is a mess.

Betty def needs to be booted out tomorrow. I will lay out a few thoughts before I finish up as there's a 1/3 chance I won't be here for breakfast.

@Betty the Beggar is my prime suspect based in sudden appearance during the task and now thus weird jump on benji which shows her to be untrustworthy.

@Rhoda the Spinster the earlier "I'll give my thoughts later" message is classic wolf behaviour to buy time.

@Boris the Fool something just off about Boris and also being one to want to vote out the few in the murder pool. I know others have defended this stance but it doesn't work for me.

All of the above could be complete crap in the long run but just in case I'm murdered later this is where I'm at.

Will @lorcand1990 be offering us any clarification on the votes or are we to be left stewing 😆

post #314

Christ you're right, Apologies I mist have mixed you up with someone else and nightmare trying to find the post on phone. Either way it wasn't you so sorry about the accusation!

Not really, by morning one will be gone for certain and that'll leave only 3. It'd suit the Traitors to have attention focused on us. Plus interesting the few who seem keen to dash the Murder pool on the rocks.

@Boris the Fool it was actually @Donald the Spoofer  meant to tag in the other post as my other suspect for being a traitor.

Until tomorrow fellow players... maybe!

Still here for now! Have to assume any dieing will occur at 10am.

Vincent’s

[Dora the Explorer]

Where did I pick magda? Am I missing something? I vote for Benji and had Betty second in my list. 

Obviously we are all potentially traitors I don't think anyone is anyway clear. If Betty turns traitor do you think Vincent might be too?

I didn't say you picked Magda, I asked why did they (the traitors) choose her

My bad. I actually don't know I didn't see any danger in magda at that point and I don't think she was a solid faithful either. That's why I said earlier I wonder if it was that she was first faithful to mention the dagger

[Ina May the Midwife]

Looking back at the Ben voters last night and reasons for voting::

laura: voted at 2035, "Sorry Benji, I think you're a really nice guy. I've enjoyed getting to know you. However, I’m sticking with my gut from earlier... your comment to William about not getting the 5th word in the task and backroom chats felt like you were stirring a bit. The whole 'are you a newbie, are you not' thing too, just sort of added to that."
dora: voted at 2047, didn't provide reasoning at the time of voting
tuck: Voted at 2049, "Benji based solely on pretending to be a noob for a pass, sorry Benji very little to go on so far"
boris: declared at 2050 as the 4th voter when there was just one voter on 3 other players; "The newbie/not a newbie issue was the last straw. The weird question to me on page 1 was the first straw"
magda - confirmed faithful
betty: voted Ben as a "self-pres" vote at 2129; based on on-thread counts at this point, Zeena had 5 votes, Ben had 4 and Betty had 3

Also interesting that Zeena voted off-wagon (along with 5 others as below) at 2113 rather than self-pres - because she knew that there was a double vote incoming? Or because she doesn't think Ben or Betty are traitors? In fairness to her, the on-thread count at the time she voted was 5 to her (assuming she saw Rhonda's vote 2 mins before hers) and 4 to Ben so it was very much on a knife edge at that point considering that there were a good few votes still to come.

amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

If Betty is indeed a traitor, her vote here is not a good look for Zeena; obviously that's countered by the fact that Zeena's vote is a pretty good look for her

[Prada the Seamstress]

I removed myself from list just incase I’m banished.

Hey @McDonald the Farmer can you tell me more here? When you said banished, did you know there was an insta banishment at play already?

[McDonald the Farmer]

It’s in BIG BOLD MOD WRITING in the post directly above the one you quoted, Prada. 😕

[lorcand1990]

Have A Drink On Me

Well folks, it’s past midday so that means one thing- time for a drink. And time for a challenge. I have 2 drink choices in front of me, Faithful’s Fancy, or Traitor’s Tipple. One drink choice will allow you access to the Armoury where you will have the chance to win a prize, the other will not. There are no other side effects to these drinks!

One problem though, I only have 7 of each drink available, Please state on thread which drink you would like to take. Once one drink runs out, those left can only pick the remaining drink. Once all drinks run out, that’s it. First come, first served. And let nobody say I never buy a round.

I can reveal that a Shield is on offer today as a prize. This will protect the player holding it from murder tonight. Is that the only prize though?

(I’m offline for a couple of hours shortly, but will organise prizes when I am back. If ye break any pictures or furniture while I’m gone, I’ll know)

[McDonald the Farmer]

Faithfuls fancy

[Prada the Seamstress]

It’s in BIG BOLD MOD WRITING in the post directly above the one you quoted, Prada. 😕

Yes but did you know at the time of your decision?
Because what was the real reason then? Why would you have been afraid of banishment more so than murder?
I'm just finding it surprising you said banishment when murder was a bit more likely given you were one of the 5.

[Prada the Seamstress]

Traitor's Tipple

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Looking back at the Ben voters last night and reasons for voting::

laura: voted at 2035, "Sorry Benji, I think you're a really nice guy. I've enjoyed getting to know you. However, I’m sticking with my gut from earlier... your comment to William about not getting the 5th word in the task and backroom chats felt like you were stirring a bit. The whole 'are you a newbie, are you not' thing too, just sort of added to that."
dora: voted at 2047, didn't provide reasoning at the time of voting
tuck: Voted at 2049, "Benji based solely on pretending to be a noob for a pass, sorry Benji very little to go on so far"
boris: declared at 2050 as the 4th voter when there was just one voter on 3 other players; "The newbie/not a newbie issue was the last straw. The weird question to me on page 1 was the first straw"
magda - confirmed faithful
betty: voted Ben as a "self-pres" vote at 2129; based on on-thread counts at this point, Zeena had 5 votes, Ben had 4 and Betty had 3

Also interesting that Zeena voted off-wagon (along with 5 others as below) at 2113 rather than self-pres - because she knew that there was a double vote incoming? Or because she doesn't think Ben or Betty are traitors? In fairness to her, the on-thread count at the time she voted was 5 to her (assuming she saw Rhonda's vote 2 mins before hers) and 4 to Ben so it was very much on a knife edge at that point considering that there were a good few votes still to come.

amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

If Betty is indeed a traitor, her vote here is not a good look for Zeena; obviously that's countered by the fact that Zeena's vote is a pretty good look for her

Thanks for that breakdown. On that, I might be leaning into the Betty theory. If it was self preservation, why not vote for the person with the most votes (Zeena), instead of the person with just one vote more than her (Ben). There must have been some other reason she choose Ben rather than Zeena (has she provided that already).

[Dora the Explorer]

I'll go for the traitors tripple

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Faithful fancy

[McDonald the Farmer]

It’s in BIG BOLD MOD WRITING in the post directly above the one you quoted, Prada. 😕

Yes but did you know at the time of your decision?
Because what was the real reason then? Why would you have been afraid of banishment more so than murder?
I'm just finding it surprising you said banishment when murder was a bit more likely given you were one of the 5.

Because the traitors had already put me up for murder and I had to select a player from the 5. I dunno if I could still be selected for banishment but if I could and was instantly banished then all info that I had at that time would be on thread.

[Betty the Beggar]

And if I was a traitor why would I stick my head above the paraphet like that

exactly. maybe ask magda that, it was them casting that weird wide aspersion.

Think people need to start soft declaring where they are voting so we can track it. More info we have the better

dora, magda, ???

I'm not fully caught up, but i'm looking here

I said that earlier, are you just repeating the theories of others?

I find this post by Maeve to be strange - it’s like she is just copying Zeena’s theory from earlier. I’m pretty sure it was also her that reworded a post by Amy like it was hers earlier. 

Vote: Maeve

Sorry it was Magda earlier but I still stand by my vote

There are only three explicit mentions of Magda in the whole game, the one from Pat stands out to me, that could easily be the mechanic to murder her, call her by the wrong name and then correct yourself

[Betty the Beggar]

Looking back at the Ben voters last night and reasons for voting::

laura: voted at 2035, "Sorry Benji, I think you're a really nice guy. I've enjoyed getting to know you. However, I’m sticking with my gut from earlier... your comment to William about not getting the 5th word in the task and backroom chats felt like you were stirring a bit. The whole 'are you a newbie, are you not' thing too, just sort of added to that."
dora: voted at 2047, didn't provide reasoning at the time of voting
tuck: Voted at 2049, "Benji based solely on pretending to be a noob for a pass, sorry Benji very little to go on so far"
boris: declared at 2050 as the 4th voter when there was just one voter on 3 other players; "The newbie/not a newbie issue was the last straw. The weird question to me on page 1 was the first straw"
magda - confirmed faithful
betty: voted Ben as a "self-pres" vote at 2129; based on on-thread counts at this point, Zeena had 5 votes, Ben had 4 and Betty had 3

Also interesting that Zeena voted off-wagon (along with 5 others as below) at 2113 rather than self-pres - because she knew that there was a double vote incoming? Or because she doesn't think Ben or Betty are traitors? In fairness to her, the on-thread count at the time she voted was 5 to her (assuming she saw Rhonda's vote 2 mins before hers) and 4 to Ben so it was very much on a knife edge at that point considering that there were a good few votes still to come.

amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

If Betty is indeed a traitor, her vote here is not a good look for Zeena; obviously that's countered by the fact that Zeena's vote is a pretty good look for her

Thanks for that breakdown. On that, I might be leaning into the Betty theory. If it was self preservation, why not vote for the person with the most votes (Zeena), instead of the person with just one vote more than her (Ben). There must have been some other reason she choose Ben rather than Zeena (has she provided that already).

Several times, killing Benji gave us more information than Zeena. Since I've been told he has the same alignment as Vincent it clears Vincent in my mind

[Ina May the Midwife]

Traitor’s Tipple

[Betty the Beggar]

Faithful’s Fancy

[Prada the Seamstress]

Yes but did you know at the time of your decision?
Because what was the real reason then? Why would you have been afraid of banishment more so than murder?
I'm just finding it surprising you said banishment when murder was a bit more likely given you were one of the 5.

Because the traitors had already put me up for murder and I had to select a player from the 5. I dunno if I could still be selected for banishment but if I could and was instantly banished then all info that I had at that time would be on thread.

That's not answering my question though.
I understand why you would shield yourself/remove from the list.
It's the reasoning you have that has something niggling at me a bit. I'm gonna go back and read the posts again.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Thanks for that breakdown. On that, I might be leaning into the Betty theory. If it was self preservation, why not vote for the person with the most votes (Zeena), instead of the person with just one vote more than her (Ben). There must have been some other reason she choose Ben rather than Zeena (has she provided that already).

Several times, killing Benji gave us more information than Zeena. Since I've been told he has the same alignment as Vincent it clears Vincent in my mind

A traitor knows everyone’s alignment. Did you have a select amount of players to choose from? Do you not think the odds of your selections being faithfuls was greater than the odds of them being traitors?

[Friar Tuck]

Faithful's Fancy please

[Rhoda the Spinster]

On the basis of same prizes as yesterday, if someone wins a banishment could they hold off on using it until other prizes are used like alignment check, or at least bear that in mind when choosing to banish if you feel you need to use it quickly.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Because the traitors had already put me up for murder and I had to select a player from the 5. I dunno if I could still be selected for banishment but if I could and was instantly banished then all info that I had at that time would be on thread.

That's not answering my question though.
I understand why you would shield yourself/remove from the list.
It's the reasoning you have that has something niggling at me a bit. I'm gonna go back and read the posts again.

Dunno what’s niggling at you tbh. I win a prize, I used prize on myself, I made the choice to declare what I did on thread when there was a possibility that I (like others) could be banished. I had no need to hide and better that as much info as possible out in the open should I die.

[Friar Tuck]

I didn't say you picked Magda, I asked why did they (the traitors) choose her

My bad. I actually don't know I didn't see any danger in magda at that point and I don't think she was a solid faithful either. That's why I said earlier I wonder if it was that she was first faithful to mention the dagger

Yes it could have been that alright, will be watching posts more carefully this evening

[Pat the Baker]

Faithfuls Fancy

[Friar Tuck]

Gonna be afk for a bit now but back later on

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Faithfuls Fancy

[Pat the Baker]

exactly. maybe ask magda that, it was them casting that weird wide aspersion.

dora, magda, ???

I'm not fully caught up, but i'm looking here

Sorry it was Magda earlier but I still stand by my vote

There are only three explicit mentions of Magda in the whole game, the one from Pat stands out to me, that could easily be the mechanic to murder her, call her by the wrong name and then correct yourself

I agree it could be but it wasn’t. I wanted to reconfirm if I was right about it being Maeve but wasn’t 100% sure if I would get time to double check prior to the deadline. Once I looked back I wanted to clarify I was wrong so that the right info was on thread

[Donald the Spoofer]

Faithfuls fancy

[Vincent the Artist]

Faithful fancy


If any left, looks like I may have missed the boat with this one.

[Ina May the Midwife]

That's not answering my question though.
I understand why you would shield yourself/remove from the list.
It's the reasoning you have that has something niggling at me a bit. I'm gonna go back and read the posts again.

Dunno what’s niggling at you tbh. I win a prize, I used prize on myself, I made the choice to declare what I did on thread when there was a possibility that I (like others) could be banished. I had no need to hide and better that as much info as possible out in the open should I die.

Can you provide the exact name of the prize you won? We know the kill prize was called an "Insta banish"

[Maeve the Madam]

Faithful's Fancy

[Betty the Beggar]

Several times, killing Benji gave us more information than Zeena. Since I've been told he has the same alignment as Vincent it clears Vincent in my mind

A traitor knows everyone’s alignment. Did you have a select amount of players to choose from? Do you not think the odds of your selections being faithfuls was greater than the odds of them being traitors?

Obviously the odds were i hit faithfuls but at the time of voting it was essentially a two horse race and like I have consistently said killing Benji gave more information

[Dora the Explorer]

Gonna be afk for a bit now but back later on

Im gonna mention this now because I'll bring it up later if nothing changes. it's a reason I'm interested in you and asking you stuff. You're very in and out of the game. Nothing really concrete to say. No direct ideas. Not saying your a bad one but I want go hear more about how you're thinking. 

I answered you're question on magda and you straight out just agreed with me. You may very well agree but just seems like a lazy response and get teh hell out of the game for another few hours.

[Donald the Spoofer]

some players have asked, why Magda? Traitors will likely have picked someone who can't be linked back to them. So someone with little interaction and not on anyones list would be a good pick.

[Betty the Beggar]

some players have asked, why Magda? Traitors will likely have picked someone who can't be linked back to them. So someone with little interaction and not on anyones list would be a good pick.

If its murder in plain sight there has to be some interaction

[Vincent the Artist]

Just looking back over the drinks and I think the faithfuls fancy ran out right before I posted so if allowed I guess I'll have the Traitors tipple instead please.

[Vincent the Artist]

some players have asked, why Magda? Traitors will likely have picked someone who can't be linked back to them. So someone with little interaction and not on anyones list would be a good pick.

This is a good reasoning for removing magda, but with the in plain site requirement was this luck or are we missing the signs.

some players have asked, why Magda? Traitors will likely have picked someone who can't be linked back to them. So someone with little interaction and not on anyones list would be a good pick.

If its murder in plain sight there has to be some interaction

This is important, in relation to tv Traitors there's always some interaction required whether it's a statement, a physical activity condemning a player etc. So considering this is a text based game it's surely some kind of coded message or statement relating to magda. Weyland is the only one popping for me so far.