(13-10-2025, 04:05 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I don’t see why there’s a bid deal being made out of Pat’s post tbh. I don’t see how saying “guessing more” aligns with being a wolf.

(13-10-2025, 04:08 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 03:39 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

Benjamin is posting? I was missing from the thread until today basically and I have more posts than them. They are not posting, their only contribution to date has been the discourse over use of AI. Also 7 posts is " a lot" of fluff? I would contend 7 isn't a lot. 
As for Vernon, if you read their posts there is more than just the asking about pocketing. And they have admitted themselves that they have played elsewhere. 
What have you spotted on Betty?

(13-10-2025, 04:19 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:15 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: It's not for their first post. It's for saying that Jesus was a cyclist.
That's just blasphemy!

So you want a players 'last words' based on that? Dodge

(13-10-2025, 03:54 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 01:51 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

I only lost my ear in the end. It's good to be here

(13-10-2025, 04:22 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:19 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: So you want a players 'last words' based on that? Dodge

You said you didn't have any last words, so what does it matter. Also, how is that dodge?

(13-10-2025, 04:28 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:22 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: You said you didn't have any last words, so what does it matter. Also, how is that dodge?

You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

(12-10-2025, 01:21 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Ah here, not a hope that I can write the way you lot can. I’ve a hard enough time reading it!

(12-10-2025, 10:59 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Should we really be using ChatGPT or whatever the AI is called? How can we read a player if they’re copying and pasting a considerable chunk of their post? I’m not a fan and now I’m sucked into a conversation that I never thought I’d be having playing werewolf.

(13-10-2025, 12:09 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(12-10-2025, 11:41 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: If this is about me, then everything above the disclaimer is me.

 
I know. I’d personally like to see everybody use their own words when explaining stuff to other players. It’s an important part of the game seeing if someone slips up in how they answer or phrase their post. 

Copying and pasting parts of the OP being the exception.

(13-10-2025, 08:53 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Never heard the phrase random voting stage till the AI said it. First lynch can be a stab in the dark for sure but there will be players who put the work in and believe (rightly or wrongly) in their first vote. The wolf votes are never random as they will discuss them as a pack.

Pocketing in its correct form would be a wolf cosying up to a villager by agreeing with the villager in the hope that said villager sees them in a good light because they think the same way. Can only confirm someone was pocketing after they’re dead and their alignment revealed.

That’s my take on those phrases.

(13-10-2025, 04:20 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:08 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: Benjamin is posting? I was missing from the thread until today basically and I have more posts than them. They are not posting, their only contribution to date has been the discourse over use of AI. Also 7 posts is " a lot" of fluff? I would contend 7 isn't a lot. 
As for Vernon, if you read their posts there is more than just the asking about pocketing. And they have admitted themselves that they have played elsewhere. 
What have you spotted on Betty?

What have you added?

A lot of fluff refers to quality, not quantity. 

Can you see anything suspicious in Benjamin's posts? I can't as yet and not all of us can post all day.

I'm not sure on Betty yet so I'll ignore that, why don't you ask the other person who said basically the same thing?

(13-10-2025, 04:30 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:28 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

No.
Did it make your heart race?

(13-10-2025, 04:12 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 02:50 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: Vote gone in on William, the posts last night, plus todays postings and now trying to shut discussion down

is this really trying to shut down conversation? thats weak as piss. 


i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though

Quote:i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though, cos i'm assuming if its in the game it'll be announced if a conversion takes place.

(13-10-2025, 04:32 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’m seeing multiple posts when I click reply.

@William the Grave Robber what’s naughty about saying what I see or in the case of the post of Pat’s - what I don’t see?

(13-10-2025, 04:32 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’m seeing multiple posts when I click reply.

@William the Grave Robber what’s naughty about saying what I see or in the case of the post of Pat’s - what I don’t see?

(13-10-2025, 04:28 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:22 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: You said you didn't have any last words, so what does it matter. Also, how is that dodge?

You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

(13-10-2025, 04:42 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Just reading back on Laura's read list. A lot of village leans on it, which I find a bit unusual

(13-10-2025, 04:32 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(12-10-2025, 01:21 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Ah here, not a hope that I can write the way you lot can. I’ve a hard enough time reading it!

(12-10-2025, 10:59 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Should we really be using ChatGPT or whatever the AI is called? How can we read a player if they’re copying and pasting a considerable chunk of their post? I’m not a fan and now I’m sucked into a conversation that I never thought I’d be having playing werewolf.

(13-10-2025, 12:09 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:  
I know. I’d personally like to see everybody use their own words when explaining stuff to other players. It’s an important part of the game seeing if someone slips up in how they answer or phrase their post. 

Copying and pasting parts of the OP being the exception.

(13-10-2025, 08:53 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Never heard the phrase random voting stage till the AI said it. First lynch can be a stab in the dark for sure but there will be players who put the work in and believe (rightly or wrongly) in their first vote. The wolf votes are never random as they will discuss them as a pack.

Pocketing in its correct form would be a wolf cosying up to a villager by agreeing with the villager in the hope that said villager sees them in a good light because they think the same way. Can only confirm someone was pocketing after they’re dead and their alignment revealed.

That’s my take on those phrases.

(13-10-2025, 04:20 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: What have you added?

A lot of fluff refers to quality, not quantity. 

Can you see anything suspicious in Benjamin's posts? I can't as yet and not all of us can post all day.

I'm not sure on Betty yet so I'll ignore that, why don't you ask the other person who said basically the same thing?

I never challenged you for saying my posts are fluff, I would expect nothing else when I had been missing for most of the first 24 hours of the game due to RL.
However, suggesting Benjamin is "posting" when they hadn't been on thread since yesterday with a whole 4 posts of basically questioning the use of AI, and not commenting on the game at all, is what I am questioning in your read. Where exactly is the quality there? Can you point that out? 
In relation to Betty, are you just parroting what the other person said or can you stand by your analysis?

(13-10-2025, 04:45 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:32 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’m seeing multiple posts when I click reply.

@William the Grave Robber what’s naughty about saying what I see or in the case of the post of Pat’s - what I don’t see?

most likely nothing. my thought was a wolf defending (and pocketing) someone he knows aint a wolf.

(13-10-2025, 04:35 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:12 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: is this really trying to shut down conversation? thats weak as piss. 


i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though

Why did you cut out the rest of your own post.. which gives the context to the first bit..

Quote:i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though, cos i'm assuming if its in the game it'll be announced if a conversion takes place.

Basically saying let's not talk about it now cause we will find out later if it's in the game.

(13-10-2025, 04:48 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:32 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: I never challenged you for saying my posts are fluff, I would expect nothing else when I had been missing for most of the first 24 hours of the game due to RL.
However, suggesting Benjamin is "posting" when they hadn't been on thread since yesterday with a whole 4 posts of basically questioning the use of AI, and not commenting on the game at all, is what I am questioning in your read. Where exactly is the quality there? Can you point that out? 
In relation to Betty, are you just parroting what the other person said or can you stand by your analysis?

Called out the AI use, answered a question, that's posting. Day 0 yesterday so there isn't much to go on, I said I'm neutral on them as they haven't enough posts to base an opinion on. He might be in work today and can't post.

I can stand by my post on Betty, I'm just not sure it's wise to do so at this moment, make of that what you will.

(13-10-2025, 04:46 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:28 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: You really dont get how doing that in general and implying im about to be shot is dodgy?

If you were shot, and you flipped green, then maybe i'd be lynch candidate. If you were shot and you flipped red, well the wolves would quickly eat me.
You were not shot, so you didn't flip anything, but now you are saying it's a dodge move.
But wont explain how!
Just saying stuff like imagined surprise that i don't see how its dodge doesn't advance anything, as you are not explaining yourself.

(13-10-2025, 03:39 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

(13-10-2025, 04:47 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:42 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Just reading back on Laura's read list. A lot of village leans on it, which I find a bit unusual

So what you're saying is we should lynch Laura then right😋

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:46 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: If you were shot, and you flipped green, then maybe i'd be lynch candidate. If you were shot and you flipped red, well the wolves would quickly eat me.
You were not shot, so you didn't flip anything, but now you are saying it's a dodge move.
But wont explain how!
Just saying stuff like imagined surprise that i don't see how its dodge doesn't advance anything, as you are not explaining yourself.

Ok grand I'll explain more, I thought you'd understand tbf.. Let's say you do that to a rolled villager, they panic and reveal as roled. Not a great play is it?

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:48 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: Called out the AI use, answered a question, that's posting. Day 0 yesterday so there isn't much to go on, I said I'm neutral on them as they haven't enough posts to base an opinion on. He might be in work today and can't post.

I can stand by my post on Betty, I'm just not sure it's wise to do so at this moment, make of that what you will.

You said "Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out" 
You aren't explaining how someone with 4 posts could be classed as posting and how they were figuring things out? 

TBQH it sounds like wolf clearing wolf. Is Benjamin posting in your backroom perchance?

(13-10-2025, 04:54 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Ok grand I'll explain more, I thought you'd understand tbf.. Let's say you do that to a rolled villager, they panic and reveal as roled. Not a great play is it?

Any last words?

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 03:39 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

On the bolded part Laura, you can simply say, I'm RV don't lynch me OR claim your role. Just don't say what character you are.

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’d like to hear more from Betty. Their posts this morning gave the impression they’d be back as the day progressed but they’ve been silent so far.

(13-10-2025, 04:54 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Ok grand I'll explain more, I thought you'd understand tbf.. Let's say you do that to a rolled villager, they panic and reveal as roled. Not a great play is it?

Any last words?

(13-10-2025, 04:59 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: On the bolded part Laura, you can simply say, I'm RV don't lynch me OR claim your role. Just don't say what character you are.

The problem with that is there is no way to counter it.. I would have thought that would be obvious.. like that means any wolf being lynched could say it 🤔

(13-10-2025, 05:06 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:54 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: Any last words?

If you're shooting Ben, I'd be interested in who you're peeking?

(13-10-2025, 05:18 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Betty- still fluffy, lets see what they come back with later

Edward- sweet feck all to go on, under the radar

Not a fan of Laura's read list, bit too positive.

Still not getting much use from Williams posts either

Rhoda: very liitle to go on.. called out agressive wolfy play from ladies but then suspicious of betty, who isnt aggressive

Wendy- not really sure what they're up to with me. generally like reaction testing though!

Will probably park vern for the time being as they haven't played with us before

(13-10-2025, 05:10 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 04:59 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: The problem with that is there is no way to counter it.. I would have thought that would be obvious.. like that means any wolf being lynched could say it 🤔

I mean generally a role has a power. 
Seer peeks, vig shoots, etc etc. 
If it's a latent ability then well yeah it becomes more complicated.

Quote:Game Rules

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(13-10-2025, 11:37 AM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Betty and Magda were my suspicions. I'll have to read back as one of them had a really good read on the game. Almost too good. So either someone with insider knowledge or a very experienced player.
However now that it turns out that they were right in a lot of their supposition, I don't know if that makes it more or less suspicious.
Also one of them references a follow up post from the GM and there was no follow up post.... at least, not on here as far as I can see
As I say, I'll need to look back over the posts and see.
Sadly have a few World of Man issues to attend to today before I return to matters of Middle Earth

(13-10-2025, 04:26 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 03:54 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: I only lost my ear in the end. It's good to be here

Voting Vincent for missing the obvious "it's good to be ear" joke 😜😂