(15-10-2025, 12:28 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: what are we up to now.. 4 night checks/peeks/watches from max 12 villagers.. seems exessive.. we know 2 of those were definately true

(Yesterday, 06:21 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 06:17 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: If it is an action, the action would be carried out regardless of a wolf or villager being lynched. The action is worded "change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed", the votes don't matter. It is then RNG as to who of the wolves. 

I don't fully understand this either TBQH, however, on balance of probabilities, this by itself is not a smoking gun. The balance of probability points squarely at you.

 
Yet no other ring bearer used this power until last night ?

(Yesterday, 06:28 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: There is absolutely no way that Magda nor Pat wouldn't have used that hobbit info to form a village core. I refuse to believe they never once considered that they had a massive, massive power at lynch time and decided, nah.... We'll vote seperately with other unknown aligned players.

(Yesterday, 07:37 PM)Mick the Drunk Wrote:

(Yesterday, 06:28 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: There is absolutely no way that Magda nor Pat wouldn't have used that hobbit info to form a village core. I refuse to believe they never once considered that they had a massive, massive power at lynch time and decided, nah.... We'll vote seperately with other unknown aligned players.

Its just strange that if you have people that you know are good that you wouldn’t form an alliance with them especially if we are to believe Ben that they knew who each other were

(Yesterday, 07:36 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: So what you are saying Mick is that it is Laura who we need to lynch? Or at the very least, not Ben?

(Yesterday, 07:38 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

(Yesterday, 07:40 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:37 PM)Mick the Drunk Wrote: Its just strange that if you have people that you know are good that you wouldn’t form an alliance with them especially if we are to believe Ben that they knew who each other were

prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

(Yesterday, 07:38 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

(Yesterday, 07:38 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

(Yesterday, 07:46 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:38 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

But Vincent didn't know about the power, as both players claim. So he didn't know it would happen so his vote is relevant.

He couldn't risk staying on Laura if she is a wolf, as the vote was too close and they didn't know what way it would go.

(Yesterday, 07:45 PM)Mick the Drunk Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:40 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

So you think if Ben is telling the truth they were just given each other names but couldn’t actually talk to each other?

(Yesterday, 07:46 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:38 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: right now i'm leaning towards laura.

the main thing is that vincent voted laura, which should clear her and condemn ben. however, vincents vote was entirely irrelevant so should be discounted.

But Vincent didn't know about the power, as both players claim. So he didn't know it would happen so his vote is relevant.

He couldn't risk staying on Laura if she is a wolf, as the vote was too close and they didn't know what way it would go.

(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(Yesterday, 10:31 AM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: @William the Grave Robber Laura posted explaining what happened.

It's definitely ring connected anyways, the mods post even alluded to it



Initially I thought that it might be an auto power from Vinnie as captain of the Uruk-Hai protecting his leader, but based on the mod post I think the simplest explanation is that the ring randed the lynch onto someone voting Laura. Or possibly just amongst everyone else.

@Laura the Lace Mistress can you elaborate further?

One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

(Yesterday, 07:40 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:37 PM)Mick the Drunk Wrote: Its just strange that if you have people that you know are good that you wouldn’t form an alliance with them especially if we are to believe Ben that they knew who each other were

prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

(Yesterday, 07:45 PM)Mick the Drunk Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:40 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: prob no shared backroom though, so hard to coordinate. and if too friendly on thread, the wolves would have picked up on this. 

and just say you are a hobbit, and you know the other 3. which one do you chose to follow when it comes too votes?

So you think if Ben is telling the truth they were just given each other names but couldn’t actually talk to each other?

(Yesterday, 06:08 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 06:07 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: seven dwarves? hardly when she was pipping in here to say she was a hobbit...

7th member of the fellowship.

(Yesterday, 07:42 PM)Mick the Drunk Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:36 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: So what you are saying Mick is that it is Laura who we need to lynch? Or at the very least, not Ben?

No I believe that one of them is the final ring bearer and that is why the power was enacted last night and the reason to Bens question of why none of the other hobbits used it. I think we should lynch Ben as his story seems more unbelievable

(Yesterday, 06:12 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

(Yesterday, 06:16 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: And I swear there’s a load of you that have been compromised and are now on the dark side. Some of you are not even attempting to look at both sides.

(Yesterday, 07:50 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: One power of the ring is to change the lynch to guarantee a wolf is killed, the wolf is randed so Vincent was killed.

@William the Grave Robber, I posted this earlier, this answers your question.

(Yesterday, 07:58 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:50 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: @William the Grave Robber, I posted this earlier, this answers your question.

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

(Yesterday, 07:54 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: What mountain is Ben climbing and why?

(Yesterday, 07:57 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(Yesterday, 06:12 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

You being lynched wasn't guaranteed, are you even reading the thread?

Edward switched to me just before 9, Frank didn't declare so it looked like I was gone as much as you.

Vincent, the flipped wolf, stayed on me, he wasn't worried about me being lynched. In fact, Ina has quoted the post where he said to either lynch me or lynch outside the two of us.

(Yesterday, 07:57 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(Yesterday, 06:12 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: If Laura and the rest of you think I’m a wolf then, according to Laura, the ring had no need to change the lynch as a successful lynching was already guaranteed. 

Laura does not have the ring but if you think she does then make her statement make sense.

You being lynched wasn't guaranteed, are you even reading the thread?

Edward switched to me just before 9, Frank didn't declare so it looked like I was gone as much as you.

Vincent, the flipped wolf, stayed on me, he wasn't worried about me being lynched. In fact, Ina has quoted the post where he said to either lynch me or lynch outside the two of us.

(Yesterday, 08:00 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:58 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

How would Laura be able to tell us how it worked then? And Ben can't?

(Yesterday, 06:33 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: @Laura the Lace Mistress If the Hobbits all knew one another as Ben claims, why did Pat vote for you?

(Yesterday, 08:03 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(Yesterday, 06:33 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: @Laura the Lace Mistress If the Hobbits all knew one another as Ben claims, why did Pat vote for you?

Ben is a wolf, we didn't know each other.

Think about it, there was a SK, you, the seer, Prada had an alignment check, Vernon was Aragorn, Frank had a one off alignment check, Ina has her horn.

Now, if us four hobbits all knew each other how many wolves would be needed to balance that out? Unless most of you are wolves it just doesn't make sense.

(Yesterday, 06:52 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 06:45 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: why did Pat vote for Laura then?

D1 vote on you. Needed resolving.

(Yesterday, 07:58 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:50 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: @William the Grave Robber, I posted this earlier, this answers your question.

which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

(Yesterday, 08:03 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(Yesterday, 08:00 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: How would Laura be able to tell us how it worked then? And Ben can't?

i dunno. but i just cant buy that if i was gonna be lynched last night (or you, or whoever), a random wolf would have been lynched instead. 

if this mechanic exists, it can only kick in if ring bearer is gonna by lynched IMO. 

and if i believe that, i gotta vote laura.

(Yesterday, 08:10 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:58 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

No, it's was set in motion before the lynch because it looked like I was going.

Read back, no one seemed to have been reading the thread. I quoted Edward and dropped the hint, he didn't get it. It was Ina who had to point it out. I was scrambling and asking people to change, I had to set it in motion as no one was listening.

(Yesterday, 08:03 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(Yesterday, 08:00 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: How would Laura be able to tell us how it worked then? And Ben can't?

i dunno. but i just cant buy that if i was gonna be lynched last night (or you, or whoever), a random wolf would have been lynched instead. 

if this mechanic exists, it can only kick in if ring bearer is gonna by lynched IMO. 

and if i believe that, i gotta vote laura.

(Yesterday, 08:10 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(Yesterday, 07:58 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: which means what - regardless of who was lynched last night a wolf was dying?

i would guess any ring power (if it exists) would only work if the ring bearer was going to be lynched.

No, it's was set in motion before the lynch because it looked like I was going.

Read back, no one seemed to have been reading the thread. I quoted Edward and dropped the hint, he didn't get it. It was Ina who had to point it out. I was scrambling and asking people to change, I had to set it in motion as no one was listening.

(Yesterday, 08:15 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 08:03 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: i dunno. but i just cant buy that if i was gonna be lynched last night (or you, or whoever), a random wolf would have been lynched instead. 

if this mechanic exists, it can only kick in if ring bearer is gonna by lynched IMO. 

and if i believe that, i gotta vote laura.

Are you just trolling us or trying to give Ben some false hope?
What about everything else? Look at Ben's posts