(16-10-2025, 03:40 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote:

(16-10-2025, 03:08 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: Yes, but how do they know who the hobbits are? I've read William's theory but if they can see who has the ring the game is pointless.

in the movies, when you use the ring, the enemy can find you. 

so maybe 2 of our hobbits used the ring, knowing the would be caught the next day, and knowing it would be passed onto the next hobbit. 

i'm only spitballing here.

(Yesterday, 02:18 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Does three not seem low in the case of 16 original players? I don't know really.
I mean the two we have killed (by default or otherwise) are not Sauruman nor Sauron. I don't know enough about LOTR- in my head Sauron was just the big eye thingy (it's been a while since I watched, and my son who read all the books is away), but I take it "he" was a character of sorts, not just a spirit/being. Therefore it would make sense that he features in some capacity. So Ben is Sauraman, let's say. And then is there a greater evil in Sauron?

(Yesterday, 01:54 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: I havent voted yet but that is the way it is looking. If I had to choose another wolf it is between Mick and William, probably the latter.
Frank has escaped our notice. Not sure that is a good thing.

Unless, and this is a reach- unless Ina (and then by default Laura) have been playing a long game. Anyone could have been munched this morning. Eddie was the most obviously village, so he ostensibly could have been left til last by the woves.

(Yesterday, 03:52 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 01:54 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: I havent voted yet but that is the way it is looking. If I had to choose another wolf it is between Mick and William, probably the latter.
Frank has escaped our notice. Not sure that is a good thing.

Unless, and this is a reach- unless Ina (and then by default Laura) have been playing a long game. Anyone could have been munched this morning. Eddie was the most obviously village, so he ostensibly could have been left til last by the woves.

Just on this, if there are more than 3 wolves, throughout all the game, I have dropped a lot of hints as to my character. A LOT.
There has been no counter claims to this character, and I think I've been obvious mcObvious.
I know they are just claims, but I think I have shown myself as village throughout.

(Yesterday, 03:50 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’m home. Before I get bombarded with questions can you all show me why you’re saying that it was me that made the counterclaim.

Show me proof.

(Yesterday, 03:50 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’m home. Before I get bombarded with questions can you all show me why you’re saying that it was me that made the counterclaim.

Show me proof.

(Yesterday, 03:53 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 03:50 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’m home. Before I get bombarded with questions can you all show me why you’re saying that it was me that made the counterclaim.

Show me proof.

Why do you claim 2 dead hobbits knew you were a hobbit?

(Yesterday, 04:09 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 03:53 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: Why do you claim 2 dead hobbits knew you were a hobbit?

Ask yourself why two dead hobbits would both put me so low on their Process of Elimination lists. And when I say low I mean just not right at the bottom but the next one up. Pat (Sam) had Magda (Frodo) right at the bottom of his.

Make sense of that for yourself and then the answer is obvious.

(Yesterday, 04:06 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: And there are 3 ring bearer Hobbits, 2 are dead, so you are claiming to be the same one as Laura. @Benjamin the Alchemist 
so one of you is lying and at the moment, the more likely of the two seems you.
If you are not claiming to be a Hobbit, what actually are you claiming?

(Yesterday, 04:09 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 03:53 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: Why do you claim 2 dead hobbits knew you were a hobbit?

Ask yourself why two dead hobbits would both put me so low on their Process of Elimination lists. And when I say low I mean just not right at the bottom but the next one up. Pat (Sam) had Magda (Frodo) right at the bottom of his.

Make sense of that for yourself and then the answer is obvious.

(13-10-2025, 03:39 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

(Yesterday, 02:18 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Does three not seem low in the case of 16 original players? I don't know really.
I mean the two we have killed (by default or otherwise) are not Sauruman nor Sauron. I don't know enough about LOTR- in my head Sauron was just the big eye thingy (it's been a while since I watched, and my son who read all the books is away), but I take it "he" was a character of sorts, not just a spirit/being. Therefore it would make sense that he features in some capacity. So Ben is Sauraman, let's say. And then is there a greater evil in Sauron?

(Yesterday, 04:06 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(Yesterday, 03:50 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’m home. Before I get bombarded with questions can you all show me why you’re saying that it was me that made the counterclaim.

Show me proof.

How about you show us proof Ben, it's you under pressure here. Up to you to prove you are you say you are.

If you're legit and this is all a misunderstanding I'm sure you'll have no issues clearing it up with a logical explanation and timeline. 

Right?

(15-10-2025, 11:13 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Magda the Maid
Pat the Baker
Edward the Barber


Benjamin the Alchemist
Ina May the Midwife
William the Grave Robber
Laura the Lace Mistress
Mick The Drunk
Vernon the Ranger
Frank the Tank
Vincent the Artist

9 v 2
Mislynch Wed 8 v 2
Munch 7 v 2
Mislynch Thur 6 v 2
Munch 5 v 2
Mislynch Fri 4 v 2
Munch 3 v 2

It really is ours to lose.

(15-10-2025, 11:23 AM)Magda the Maid Wrote: My Own POE would be

Laura
Vern
Mick
William
Vincent
Frank
Ben
Ina

So the top three are the same as your's @Ina May the Midwife  why have you left Frank off your list?

(15-10-2025, 11:33 AM)Pat the Baker Wrote: I'm not too sure within the middle ground at the moment, so this is very changeable and more based on gut than anything, aside from Laura

Laura
Mick
Vern
Will
Vincent
Frank
Ben
Ina
Magda

(Yesterday, 04:06 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: And there are 3 ring bearer Hobbits, 2 are dead, so you are claiming to be the same one as Laura. @Benjamin the Alchemist 
so one of you is lying and at the moment, the more likely of the two seems you.
If you are not claiming to be a Hobbit, what actually are you claiming?

(Yesterday, 04:25 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: At that stage I had made a big post about Ina and voted for her and I had been quizzed on being on a team with betty.
Betty the wolf had been lynched at this stage.
Ina was trusted and was just beow me in both lists.

Why would Magda and Pat have such trust in me?

(Yesterday, 04:20 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(15-10-2025, 11:13 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Magda the Maid
Pat the Baker
Edward the Barber


Benjamin the Alchemist
Ina May the Midwife
William the Grave Robber
Laura the Lace Mistress
Mick The Drunk
Vernon the Ranger
Frank the Tank
Vincent the Artist

9 v 2
Mislynch Wed 8 v 2
Munch 7 v 2
Mislynch Thur 6 v 2
Munch 5 v 2
Mislynch Fri 4 v 2
Munch 3 v 2

It really is ours to lose.

Look who’s top of my trusted list

(Yesterday, 04:28 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:25 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: At that stage I had made a big post about Ina and voted for her and I had been quizzed on being on a team with betty.
Betty the wolf had been lynched at this stage.
Ina was trusted and was just beow me in both lists.

Why would Magda and Pat have such trust in me?

I checked Ina. She is clear from my POV.
Edward also action tracked Ina. Clear.

(Yesterday, 04:13 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:06 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: How about you show us proof Ben, it's you under pressure here. Up to you to prove you are you say you are.

If you're legit and this is all a misunderstanding I'm sure you'll have no issues clearing it up with a logical explanation and timeline. 

Right?

You made the claim that I counter claimed so you go back it up. I’m not doing your job for you. 

I have my own job to do and after last nights lynch it looks like I’m alone in doing it.

(Yesterday, 04:31 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: 1 question, if ben and laura could both answer that would be swell.

@Benjamin the Alchemist
@Laura the Lace Mistress

whats the explanation for vincent being lynched last night?

(Yesterday, 04:33 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:31 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: 1 question, if ben and laura could both answer that would be swell.

@Benjamin the Alchemist
@Laura the Lace Mistress

whats the explanation for vincent being lynched last night?

I deflected the lynch and knew it would happen. Fate decided who would die instead I had no control over that.

(Yesterday, 04:31 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:28 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: I checked Ina. She is clear from my POV.
Edward also action tracked Ina. Clear.

 And out of all the other players in the game the two now known hobbits put me right next to Ina, the trusted player. 

would any of you have put me there? I doubt it so once again…….

Why the fook would 2 hobbits have so much trust in me?????

(Yesterday, 04:32 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:13 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: You made the claim that I counter claimed so you go back it up. I’m not doing your job for you. 

I have my own job to do and after last nights lynch it looks like I’m alone in doing it.

Nah, I'll just lynch you because you can't prove shit bub. And I'm not the one on trial here.

(Yesterday, 04:35 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:33 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I deflected the lynch and knew it would happen. Fate decided who would die instead I had no control over that.

How exactly did you deflect?

(Yesterday, 04:37 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:32 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: Nah, I'll just lynch you because you can't prove shit bub. And I'm not the one on trial here.

You do you, Ina

(Yesterday, 04:43 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: No offence but I’ve done all I can at this stage.

You’ve all somehow got it in your heads that a wolf would deflect a lynch onto another wolf like it’s some kind of winning play.

We are playing the fellowship of the RING! Gee, I wonder what the ring might do in this game?

(Yesterday, 04:31 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: But Pat and Magda were working on the same informaiton that we are. Only the wolves know who the villagers are. Are you saying, categorically, that all the HObbits knew who each other were from the outset?

(Yesterday, 04:22 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(15-10-2025, 11:33 AM)Pat the Baker Wrote: I'm not too sure within the middle ground at the moment, so this is very changeable and more based on gut than anything, aside from Laura

Laura
Mick
Vern
Will
Vincent
Frank
Ben
Ina
Magda

 Look where I am on Sam’s list

(Yesterday, 04:48 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(Yesterday, 04:31 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: But Pat and Magda were working on the same informaiton that we are. Only the wolves know who the villagers are. Are you saying, categorically, that all the HObbits knew who each other were from the outset?

Yes

i cant elaborate further than that. Those the rules.