The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[Dora the Explorer]

I think Friar needs to be resolved first, Laura can now do that.

After that I think everyone should post an #FFA listing their top 3 next suspects ( outside of Friar) with at least one valid reason for each before 6pm tonight.

If nothing else is posted by anyone else today but that 1 post, it would be more valuable than anything else.

I'm going to do a read back on the thread and will post mine later.

I'll be looking at our one known traitor Prada, who and how she interacted with people. I'll be looking at voting patterns and timings of when people voted. That's information that can't be disputed by opinions.
I suggest others do the same, ask questions if need be and then FFA.

I initially thought friar first but friar doesn't resolve anything we already know they are traitors.  You resolve friar and everyone still thinks I'm a traitor and going by some people they only think there's 3 traitors all together so no pressure for the traitors tonight.

Banish me and I'm green I know I am so ye are still looking for a minimum 2 traitors are round table tonight.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

I think there's going to be 1 in the top 3 there.... I've had a faithful vibe from William from the start so... Rhoda or Dora.

I think there's at least 1 in the bottom 3 or 4. Friar post count is only as high as it is because he's drawn attention. Chris and Countess are going under the radar. Boris.... I've not paid much attention to. I've not had anything about him to raise suspicion but will look at the voting pattern.

I'm interested to hear what @Donald the Spoofer , @William the Grave Robber and @Weyland the Blacksmith have to say about who they think the traitors are.

My logic for voting Donald is now very likely flawed given the tied vote last night and no revote. Id thought his and Pradas vote was to prevent against manipulation and maybe a traitor had won it Day one but not day 2. The Dora/Friar stuff no looks way more likely.

I need to go back and reread everything again. 

Doris/Friar need to be resolved regardless

Excluding myself
Countess
Boris
Chris
Donald
Laura
Rhoda 
William

Going to look through posts in that order and generate an FFA excluding Doris and Friar who need to go

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Where my head is now (I'm going to have to take a break to do my actual work) is to banish someone from that bottom pile. Worst case, if I get it wrong, it a faithful that isn't contributing or paying attention. Chris or Countess at the moment.

Oh I am paying attention. I think you should be focusing on removing traitors and not faithfuls.

Bit of a strange statement.

With all this attention you are paying, who do you think should be up for the insta banish?

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

@Rhoda the Spinster just on a quick and short response. Why did you vote for Prada last night?

@Rhoda the Spinster just on a quick and short response. Why did you vote for Prada last night?

Because therir post to Maeve was the most plausible as a task to kill in plain sight.

Still at lot of discussion going on post the close. Anyway.

Voting Rhoda again this evening.

You keep calling me out for no reason. Too many red flags. I think you try and control the forum and post so much, it gave me a headache.

Can I check if this is a vote declaration or not please? @Countess Markievicz

Vote Rhoda

@Countess Markievicz why did you ask the question, above, thank her reply and not follow it up other than voting for her (3 times 🤣)

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

This is why you should of just banished me @Laura the Lace Mistress the thread is quiet cause the traitors are happy in the knowledge that me and friar are both up for the kill tonight and how you're looking at it one of the lower posters.

Way too comfertable not good for faithful.

TBH, you're not top of my list and in the first 2 days I had you in my "leaning to faithful" list. It was Betty's suspicion of you... and then the voting patterns... and you are one of the 'loud' posters... that nudged you a bit. But none of that is definitive. And now, I can't make out are you bluffing and if I should call it... risking an active faithful from being removed.

I appreciate the insights from the people I asked and I get that the Dora/Friar question needs to be resolved, but I think Friar will be in the top two tonight anyway so I don't see the benefit going for someone high profile like him. I'm just not sure if it's the best use of a one shot banish and I'm inclinded to focus on the quiet pair (Chris and Countess). Countess offers little and Weyland rightly points out an example of her odd behaviour. I'm taking on the risk going this direction too. If I get it wrong, it's not a good look.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

One think I'd say is we don't know if there are two or three traitors left.

If it is three traitors we have to hit all three correctly.

If any traitors are remaining at the end they win.

The (main) reason Dora and Friar are in the frame are because they voted together on the same wagon three nights in a row, and we know the votes on that wagon were manipulated on two of those nights. There is a possibility that they are two wolves and needed to vote together to get an extra vote.

For me, and this is my opinion, how they behaved after last night points to them both being wolves.

Dora pointed the finger at two players, me and Weyland, today as faithfuls who had been converted into traitors last night immediately after the vote. This is impossible as converting is announced on thread as per the OP.

Faithful would not be that reckless at this time, just randomly making accusations, when so much is at stake.

[Dora the Explorer]

One think I'd say is we don't know if there are two or three traitors left.

If it is three traitors we have to hit all three correctly.

If any traitors are remaining at the end they win.

The (main)  reason Dora and Friar are in the frame are because they voted together on the same wagon three nights in a row, and we know the votes on that wagon were manipulated on two of those nights. There is a possibility that they are two wolves and needed to vote together to get an extra vote.

For me, and this is my opinion, how they behaved after last night points to them both being wolves.

Dora pointed the finger at two players, me and Weyland, today as faithfuls who had been converted into traitors last night immediately after the vote. This is impossible as converting is announced on thread as per the OP.

Faithful would not be that reckless at this time, just randomly making accusations, when so much is at stake.

It's my opinions and I gave them so people have something to go on im not asking for you to be banished before me I want you banished when I turn green for god sake. 

If I get banished early then I think it has to be you and friar banished at round table. 

How did I act last night after the vote? I owned up and said yep this don't look great at all and no way I can defend it I can't defend the votes the only thing I can say is if I was a traitor I would not vote with the same traitor 3 nights in a row and two of them nights turned out to be some kind of vote manipulation. 

I'm not throwing around accusations to defend myself I'm asking Laura to banish me for the better of the game. I'm faithful and if I'm not banished before round table tonight everyone will still assume I'm one of the traitors and accept it as that instead of going looking for traitors.

I can't add anything to the game because everyone like yourself keeps saying I'm trying to throw mud. So get it out of the way and just banish me.

How can you not see that if your a faithful.

[Dora the Explorer]

This is why you should of just banished me @Laura the Lace Mistress the thread is quiet cause the traitors are happy in the knowledge that me and friar are both up for the kill tonight and how you're looking at it one of the lower posters.

Way too comfertable not good for faithful.

TBH, you're not top of my list and in the first 2 days I had you in my "leaning to faithful" list. It was Betty's suspicion of you... and then the voting patterns... and you are one of the 'loud' posters... that nudged you a bit. But none of that is definitive. And now, I can't make out are you bluffing and if I should call it... risking an active faithful from being removed.

I appreciate the insights from the people I asked and I get that the Dora/Friar question needs to be resolved, but I think Friar will be in the top two tonight anyway so I don't see the benefit going for someone high profile like him. I'm just not sure if it's the best use of a one shot banish and I'm inclinded to focus on the quiet pair (Chris and Countess). Countess offers little and Weyland rightly points out an example of her odd behaviour. I'm taking on the risk going this direction too. If I get it wrong, it's not a good look.

OK scenario time.

Scenario 1 you go for a low poster there are 3. You pick one wrong one then tonight at round table everyone is going to pick me and friar. I'm gonna turn green and friar turns traitor. We spend the hole day back and forth. And all you have done is caught one traitor out of 3 shots.

Scenario 2 you pick friar and banish them, he turns red and you all celebrate then go and look at me for round table and everyone votes me and maybe one or two split votes on an innocent low poster.. You get none at round table tonight and no one like Rhoda is under pressure because everyone is voting me.

Scenario 3 you pick me. I turn green and everyone goes ohhh fuk Dora is faithful now let's look at who responded last night and who went straight to her and didnt look at any other scanario and you have a chance of getting another traitor along with friar.

I'm gonna say straight out of I'm around at round table tonight I'm not gonna spend my evening defending myself when everyone just says I'm throwing shit agaisnt a wall to try save myself ill vote with whoever you vote for unless it's me.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

One think I'd say is we don't know if there are two or three traitors left.

If it is three traitors we have to hit all three correctly.

If any traitors are remaining at the end they win.

The (main)  reason Dora and Friar are in the frame are because they voted together on the same wagon three nights in a row, and we know the votes on that wagon were manipulated on two of those nights. There is a possibility that they are two wolves and needed to vote together to get an extra vote.

For me, and this is my opinion, how they behaved after last night points to them both being wolves.

Dora pointed the finger at two players, me and Weyland, today as faithfuls who had been converted into traitors last night immediately after the vote. This is impossible as converting is announced on thread as per the OP.

Faithful would not be that reckless at this time, just randomly making accusations, when so much is at stake.

It's my opinions and I gave them so people have something to go on im not asking for you to be banished before me I want you banished when I turn green for god sake. 

If I get banished early then I think it has to be you and friar banished at round table. 

How did I act last night after the vote? I owned up and said yep this don't look great at all and no way I can defend it I can't defend the votes the only thing I can say is if I was a traitor I would not vote with the same traitor 3 nights in a row and two of them nights turned out to be some kind of vote manipulation. 

I'm not throwing around accusations to defend myself I'm asking Laura to banish me for the better of the game. I'm faithful and if I'm not banished before round table tonight everyone will still assume I'm one of the traitors and accept it as that instead of going looking for traitors.

I can't add anything to the game because everyone like yourself keeps saying I'm trying to throw mud. So get it out of the way and just banish me.

How can you not see that if your a faithful.

You agreed last night that the votes meant you needed to be resolved.

Yet today you said me and Weeland saying that was evidence we had been recruited as traitors.

Why would you throw out accusations wild accusations like that when there was no possibility a recruitment had taken place.

You are flinging mud in the hope you avoid banishment.

[William the Grave Robber]

Can it not be as simple as find a traitor and get rid.
We have strong suspicion it's Friar, let's just get rid and move on.

[Boris the Fool]

I’m raging that I missed the prize task.i did see it in time but was looking around the forum for the various words like a dope for a few minutes and then got busy and gave up. Raging when i saw you just had to type in a word … I’ll be so good at this game next time!
In other news I’ll have a window of about an hour post work pre match to make a decision. Now that there’s a smaller number of us that task doesn’t seem as impossible any more.
Also rereading pradas posts above I had to laugh at how obvious the killing with love was. Block caps must have been required. Kudos to the other traitors who persuaded prada to execute 😂

[Dora the Explorer]

It's my opinions and I gave them so people have something to go on im not asking for you to be banished before me I want you banished when I turn green for god sake. 

If I get banished early then I think it has to be you and friar banished at round table. 

How did I act last night after the vote? I owned up and said yep this don't look great at all and no way I can defend it I can't defend the votes the only thing I can say is if I was a traitor I would not vote with the same traitor 3 nights in a row and two of them nights turned out to be some kind of vote manipulation. 

I'm not throwing around accusations to defend myself I'm asking Laura to banish me for the better of the game. I'm faithful and if I'm not banished before round table tonight everyone will still assume I'm one of the traitors and accept it as that instead of going looking for traitors.

I can't add anything to the game because everyone like yourself keeps saying I'm trying to throw mud. So get it out of the way and just banish me.

How can you not see that if your a faithful.

You agreed last night that the votes meant you needed to be resolved.

Yet today you said me and Weeland saying that was evidence we had been recruited as traitors.

Why would you throw out accusations wild accusations like that when there was no possibility a recruitment had taken place.

You are flinging mud in the hope you avoid banishment.

Where did I say you both had been recruited as traitors? I didn't I said I think we have 3 left and one of them has been a recruit. I forgot that the recruit has to be announced on thread so I think we have minimum 2 traitors left. You can't even read back correctly yourself and you pointing out my mistakes.

Again it's all accusations like Betty last night with myself all we have is vibes. you're wrong about me so that means you're throwing mud too. Only difference is there's been a massive coincidence over votes that meant it sticks on me like glue which is why I want to be banished.

[Dora the Explorer]

Can it not be as simple as find a traitor and get rid.
We have strong suspicion it's Friar, let's just get rid and move on.

Because everyone thinks I'm linked to friar  so it doesn't just move one and it's taking the pressure of the real traitors.

We're here to win the game. If friar goes early today people think there's only one traitor left and everyone thinks it's me yeah? So come round table tonight everyone votes for me and one or two cast away votes with banish a random low poster along with me and the traitors are relaxed cause chances of been caught are slim. 

If I'm gone and I will flip green everyone is looking for two traitors tonight instead of one and is focused on finding two. Right now apart fro mkaura all we  have is people calling my theories mud and not looking at anyone else meaningfully outside of myself and friar.

[Friar Tuck]

I thought my ears were burning, I've missed a lot of posts it seems

[Friar Tuck]

Can it not be as simple as find a traitor and get rid.
We have strong suspicion it's Friar, let's just get rid and move on.

Because everyone thinks I'm linked to friar  so it doesn't just move one and it's taking the pressure of the real traitors.

We're here to win the game. If friar goes early today people think there's only one traitor left and everyone thinks it's me yeah? So come round table tonight everyone votes for me and one or two cast away votes with banish a random low poster along with me and the traitors are relaxed cause chances of been caught are slim. 

If I'm gone and I will flip green everyone is looking for two traitors tonight instead of one and is focused on finding two. Right now apart fro mkaura all we  have is people calling my theories mud and not looking at anyone else meaningfully outside of myself and friar.

I also missed it, seems it was a very fast one for the first five people to reply. Has only one prize been claimed publicly (Laura) or did I miss another post?

[Dora the Explorer]

@Rhoda the Spinster how many traitors do you think are left??

[William the Grave Robber]

Can it not be as simple as find a traitor and get rid.
We have strong suspicion it's Friar, let's just get rid and move on.

Because everyone thinks I'm linked to friar  so it doesn't just move one and it's taking the pressure of the real traitors.

We're here to win the game. If friar goes early today people think there's only one traitor left and everyone thinks it's me yeah? So come round table tonight everyone votes for me and one or two cast away votes with banish a random low poster along with me and the traitors are relaxed cause chances of been caught are slim. 

If I'm gone and I will flip green everyone is looking for two traitors tonight instead of one and is focused on finding two. Right now apart fro mkaura all we  have is people calling my theories mud and not looking at anyone else meaningfully outside of myself and friar.

So same as a random punt on a low poster now and banish you and Friar later. 2 sides of the same coin

[Rhoda the Spinster]

A banish isn't the same as a kill though. So, I don't think would reveal anything... could possibly just be a traitor trying to look good to make it to the end.

I actually can't win so. No peek either. 

I'll say it now so

my opinion is we have 3 traitors left. I think one of them has been a recruit.

Friar is one it's obvious.

The other two for me are Rhoda and neyland. Just how they reacted to the votes last night nailed it for me, they didn't want to look at anything outside of me been guilty. I had borris as Sus but look at his posts and yours they are both at least considering other scenarios.

This is where @Dora the Explorer said there were three traitors left, 1 of which is a recruit.
Then put me and Weyland in the frame as a recruit.

Which you have denied. You are spinning so many stories you can't keep them straight.


You are trying to downplay the possibility of three traitors as you want Laura to shoot a faithful and then the traitors win.

[Dora the Explorer]

Because everyone thinks I'm linked to friar  so it doesn't just move one and it's taking the pressure of the real traitors.

We're here to win the game. If friar goes early today people think there's only one traitor left and everyone thinks it's me yeah? So come round table tonight everyone votes for me and one or two cast away votes with banish a random low poster along with me and the traitors are relaxed cause chances of been caught are slim. 

If I'm gone and I will flip green everyone is looking for two traitors tonight instead of one and is focused on finding two. Right now apart fro mkaura all we  have is people calling my theories mud and not looking at anyone else meaningfully outside of myself and friar.

So same as a random punt on a low poster now and banish you and Friar later. 2 sides of the same coin

No it's totally different and that what you're not getting. It's early day now so it's a random punt on a low poster but if I go and I'll be green then the low posters and likes of Rhoda have to fight to convince they are good.

I'm gonna be gone today no matter what I know that cause I can't defend the voting pattern. I want it done early so everyone has to fight to save themselves and not just a random punt. It's gone all day now and everyone still just happy to go along with that in traitor and no one has put much pressure on Rhoda or weyland or any of the low posters either.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

@Rhoda the Spinster how many traitors do you think are left??

I hope just two.

Given you trying to influence Laura to shoot faithfuls there might be three (if she shoots a faithful not a traitor we lose).

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Work stuff blowing up here. I'm going to play it safe with my insta-banish and get it over with. Fingers crossed.... incoming.

[William the Grave Robber]

Resolve Friar first Laura.

[William the Grave Robber]

Going to flip this around.
Who do we most trust here?

[Dora the Explorer]

I actually can't win so. No peek either. 

I'll say it now so

my opinion is we have 3 traitors left. I think one of them has been a recruit.

Friar is one it's obvious.

The other two for me are Rhoda and neyland. Just how they reacted to the votes last night nailed it for me, they didn't want to look at anything outside of me been guilty. I had borris as Sus but look at his posts and yours they are both at least considering other scenarios.

This is where @Dora the Explorer said there were three traitors left, 1 of which is a recruit.
Then put me and Weyland in the frame as a recruit.

Which you have denied. You are spinning so many stories you can't keep them straight.


You are trying to downplay the possibility of three traitors as you want Laura to shoot a faithful and then the traitors win.

A few mins ago you said I claimed there was two recruits now when you're caught out your saying one. 

I never denied anything I said I think there's 3 traitors and names 3 of ye and I thought one of ye were recruit, I got the recruit bit wrong so there's probably only 2 traitors left but still a chance of 3. I denied saying both you and Weyland are both recruits like you claimed before you changed in this post. 

I didn't ask Laura to vote for anyone other than me or friar. I think you're the one getting twisted and flustered I've said so many times I want her to get me out of the way so ye can concentrate on people like you properly. 

Only reason you would not want me gone before round table is because it look bad for you when I flip green.

[lorcand1990]

An Insta Banishment has been used! You know what that means! Someone will be leaving the game immediately

[William the Grave Robber]

Me and who else?

[lorcand1990]

@Friar Tuck you have been banished from the game. Please reveal now if you are a Faithful or a Traitor

[William the Grave Robber]

Good call Laura either way

[Friar Tuck]

Aaagh. Been a great game guys, unfortunately you have killed off another...traitor 😄

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Yay!

[Dora the Explorer]

Again if I was linked to friar like the two faithful were each other why am I still in game

[Rhoda the Spinster]

This is where @Dora the Explorer said there were three traitors left, 1 of which is a recruit.
Then put me and Weyland in the frame as a recruit.

Which you have denied. You are spinning so many stories you can't keep them straight.


You are trying to downplay the possibility of three traitors as you want Laura to shoot a faithful and then the traitors win.

A few mins ago you said I claimed there was two recruits now when you're caught out your saying one. 

I never denied anything I said I think there's 3 traitors and names 3 of ye and I thought one of ye were recruit, I got the recruit bit wrong so there's probably only 2 traitors left but still a chance of 3. I denied saying both you and Weyland are both recruits like you claimed before you changed in this post. 

I didn't ask Laura to vote for anyone other than me or friar. I think you're the one getting twisted and flustered I've said so many times I want her to get me out of the way so ye can concentrate on people like you properly. 

Only reason you would not want me gone before round table is because it look bad for you when I flip green.

You started saying two different people were possible recruits EVEN though there no possible chance a recruitment could have taken place, just because we were amongst the people who agreed that you and Friar need to be resolved after the vote last night.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Whooot! Good to bank that ahead of the vote later. One less traitor to influence proceedings.

[William the Grave Robber]

So Laura is faithful.
Let's find another faithful among us.

[William the Grave Robber]

So Laura is faithful.
Let's find another faithful among us.

This is directed to you Laura, who do have as next most faithful?

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Where to next. My gut is it's between Rhoda/Dora and Chris/Countess as the loud and quiet traitors.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Again if I was linked to friar like the two faithful were each other why am I still in game

It might be just that the vote manipulation only works if the two of you do it.

I've never seen two pairs of lovers on a game.

If you really thought that the hypothesis was that Friar and you were lovers who died if either were hit you would have been begging Laura to shoot Friar just to clear you.

You're just posting more bull to try and avoid banishment.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

So Laura is faithful.
Let's find another faithful among us.

This is directed to you Laura, who do have as next most faithful?

My most faithful leaning people are...
William, Weyland, Donald

One of Rhoda or Dora is a traitor IMO, if we flip one, I'd feel confident of what the other is.

[Donald the Spoofer]

So Laura is faithful.
Let's find another faithful among us.

Or banished a fellow traitor. I'd lean towards faithful though. 

No one can be trusted 100% in this game, I've seen to many series of it

[Dora the Explorer]

A few mins ago you said I claimed there was two recruits now when you're caught out your saying one. 

I never denied anything I said I think there's 3 traitors and names 3 of ye and I thought one of ye were recruit, I got the recruit bit wrong so there's probably only 2 traitors left but still a chance of 3. I denied saying both you and Weyland are both recruits like you claimed before you changed in this post. 

I didn't ask Laura to vote for anyone other than me or friar. I think you're the one getting twisted and flustered I've said so many times I want her to get me out of the way so ye can concentrate on people like you properly. 

Only reason you would not want me gone before round table is because it look bad for you when I flip green.

You started saying two different people were possible recruits EVEN though there no possible chance a recruitment could have taken place, just because we were amongst the people who agreed that you and Friar need to be resolved after the vote last night.

You're trying to twist it.

Anyway I asked you earlier how many traitors do you think are left?