The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[Magda the Maid]

I'm not sure whether this has already been addressed with you @Betty the Beggar but could you let us in on the thinking behind what made you check the alignment of Benjamin and Vincent?

[Dora the Explorer]

Give me people you're thinking of voting for and why?

You at the moment

I like Amy so far, McDonald seems sharp and I also like Pat.

I dont particularly like Betty's timeline so could vote there. There's a plausible option she a) didnt win a prize and did what she did to appear villagery (a bit risky) or b) won a different prize she doesnt want us to know about.

Dora came in and made some accusations towards Benjamin being mentioned and skipped over the Betty stuff. Was a post that felt very much like a post that was posted for the sake of it

Laura sits as a possible, 7 posts, substances is low but a new player so will give a slide for today.

Im between yourself, Dora and Betty for tonight tbh

Just on this I will say mine was posted to draw discussions from Benjamin he was second highest poster at the time but not really leading anything in any direction or helping to solve anything and I stick by that. 

I didn't skip over Betty. I did misinterpret the issues around Betty and thought her explanation was sufficient but I was wrong and I think I have clarified that a number of times. The more I thought about it afterwards I'd have Betty on my sus list after Benji

[Vincent the Artist]

Can someone post the players up for murder?

With nothing else really to go on and the chance their are traitors on the list, my mind is on banishing one of them tonight. That list will linger for the rest of the game

Not really, by morning one will be gone for certain and that'll leave only 3. It'd suit the Traitors to have attention focused on us. Plus interesting the few who seem keen to dash the Murder pool on the rocks.

[Amy the Singer]

Can someone post the players up for murder?

With nothing else really to go on and the chance their are traitors on the list, my mind is on banishing one of them tonight. That list will linger for the rest of the game

Not really, by morning one will be gone for certain and that'll leave only 3. It'd suit the Traitors to have attention focused on us. Plus interesting the few who seem keen to dash the Murder pool on the rocks.

As your fellow green miler I can see the logic of starting there when there's not much to go on.

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

If Amy isn't murdered tonight, she's going in my suspect list. If she says "I'm faithful " one more time!

[Gordon the Cook]

That only works if betty is a traitor. Why would faithful:betty lie about them being alligned?

And if I was a traitor why would I stick my head above the paraphet like that

exactly. maybe ask magda that, it was them casting that weird wide aspersion.

[Donald the Spoofer]

Can someone post the players up for murder?

With nothing else really to go on and the chance their are traitors on the list, my mind is on banishing one of them tonight. That list will linger for the rest of the game

Not really, by morning one will be gone for certain and that'll leave only 3. It'd suit the Traitors to have attention focused on us. Plus interesting the few who seem keen to dash the Murder pool on the rocks.

For me, atm, the 4 who were listed and the 2 alignment checked could give us the best information from being banished

I will probably vote for Amy, Vincent, Pat, McDonald, or Ben tonight

[lorcand1990]

Mod note: absolutely no editing of posts. It's a strict no no

This will be the one and only warning

[Amy the Singer]

We need to bear in mind that when the traitors put 5 of us on trial they didn't know about the instabanish or that Betty would be able to check if 2 players had the same alignment. That might have scuppered their plans.

[Amy the Singer]

If Amy isn't murdered tonight, she's going in my suspect list. If she says "I'm faithful " one more time!

Anything to add apart from omgus?

[Gordon the Cook]

You're getting way too caught up on the timings and reading things into it.I came on, saw the quiz, did it. Read the thread, posted my thoughts, reread what I had missed while typing, spotted I should have been posting on thread to validate the entry.
Thats it, if you want to lynch me over that, fair enough.


Since Benji seems to be getting some heat and I have thoughts on it.... Benji and Vincy are aligned. My opinion is they are most likely both village but if someone had a peek it would be a good starting point, either knock out two wolves or start a village gang

me and vincent confirmed good so

pretty happy to leave you like that, as you two will resolve eventually before end game.

You now know vincents alignment, which if you didn't already, means you are both now good.

not confirmed good, but most likely good, from everybody elses pov

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Am I right, Friar, Benji and Laura are newbies. Is that the full list of people exempt from tonight?

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Vincent , Amy and who else for murder? Kevin was and he's dead, Mcdonald exempted himself through his prize. Who's the 5th?

@Dora the Explorer did you say you're a newb?

How do we vote again? Link or DM Lorc?
I'm heading out so I'll need to set an alarm or I'll forget.

[Countess Markievicz]

Only just catching up on everything now. One thing I agree with is that there is a very good chance there is a traitor in the list picked for murder.

[Gordon the Cook]

Just to confirm I received no prize.

I can see why William admitted his kill on thread and it gives me a village lean on him but I don’t think it was a good target - I can’t see a play where the traitors put a non posting traitor on the kill list as just the act of putting a non poster on the list raised our suspicions.

I wonder if the list is like the secret traitor in the latest version of the UK show, the only thing is the secret traitor knew who the other traitors were so still can see them putting Kev as a traitor on the list.

but kev flipped faithful

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

If Amy isn't murdered tonight, she's going in my suspect list. If she says "I'm faithful " one more time!

Anything to add apart from omgus?

Are you voting for me? Or do you mean I'm voting for you? I'm not... yet.

Not sure who yet tbh. Lots of helpful posters,  unsure if they are the helpful type generally or it's a cover.

[William the Grave Robber]

You slip Pat, you ok?

I’m fine Will - no slip just a typo. I just don’t understand your logic for going for Frank

My logic is quite simple.
This is a game that requires people to post and to be involved. It makes the game more interesting. Having played many variations of these games there is only one thing that genuinely annoys me. The non or low poster.
I understand that things come up IRL but it's a game that requires interaction. If a wolf wins by deceiving others and gameplay then I tip my hat to them. Yes it can be considered a strategy but coasting through to victory is a cop out in my eyes.

[Chris the Carpenter]

So like a good few of you something is not sitting right with me with @Betty the Beggar

I missed the game today, my own fault but how did a non poster know the exact time to come on and play the game?

Doesn't add up to me. There could easily be a tratior in non posting group.

[Boris the Fool]

Am I right, Friar, Benji and Laura are newbies. Is that the full list of people exempt from tonight?

I’m new too.

[Dora the Explorer]

Vincent , Amy and who else for murder? Kevin was and he's dead, Mcdonald exempted himself through his prize. Who's the 5th?

@Dora the Explorer did you say you're a newb?

How do we vote again? Link or DM Lorc?
I'm heading out so I'll need to set an alarm or I'll forget.

Nope but it is my first time playing on Fog. 

Have you not read the OP? 
As per the op you have to post your vote on thread between half 8 and half 9 or pm lorcand beforehand to place a proxy vote if you can't make the vote time.

[Vincent the Artist]

Total Posts: 339
User # Posts
Amy the Singer 34
Vincent the Artist 33
William the Grave Robber 28
McDonald the Farmer 25
Gordon the Cook 23
Benjamin the Alchemist 21
Ina May the Midwife 20
Pat the Baker 19
lorcand1990 19
Dora the Explorer 19
Weyland the Blacksmith 15
Prada the Seamstress 13
Betty the Beggar 11
Donald the Spoofer 11
Friar Tuck 7
Laura the Lace Mistress 7
Magda the Maid 6
Zeena Warrior Princess 6
Boris the Fool 6
Rhoda the Spinster 5
Chris the Carpenter 4
Maeve the Madam 4
Countess Markievicz 2
Lilly the Millennial 1


For anyone looking for the numbers

[Countess Markievicz]

Also no note. I am a newbie.

[Countess Markievicz]

That should say, also to note

[Vincent the Artist]

Friar
Benji (def new? Not sure if true)
Boris
Countess
Laura

All newbies so to be fair if people could not banish the above as a courtesy. Anyone else genuine newbie?

[Dora the Explorer]

me and vincent confirmed good so

pretty happy to leave you like that, as you two will resolve eventually before end game.

You now know vincents alignment, which if you didn't already, means you are both now good.

not confirmed good, but most likely good, from everybody elses pov

That's not true Gordon. there's plenty to be resolved between Betty, Benjamin and Vincent.
Yes all 3 could be good but just as easily any of the two could be traitors or Betty could be a traitor alone.

Or are we just accepting Betty is faithful and that the two players she did pick for not much reason are faithful too?

[William the Grave Robber]

Zeena with the arrive, post, leave magic trick.

Clued in enough to know who's dead and that McD removed himself but not bothered to post.

If not Frank, I'll go here

[Chris the Carpenter]

Am I right, Friar, Benji and Laura are newbies. Is that the full list of people exempt from tonight?

I’m new too.

Also Dora & Countess have also just said they are new.

There will no no one left to vote for at that rate, never usually that many new players.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

You at the moment

I like Amy so far, McDonald seems sharp and I also like Pat.

I dont particularly like Betty's timeline so could vote there. There's a plausible option she a) didnt win a prize and did what she did to appear villagery (a bit risky) or b) won a different prize she doesnt want us to know about.

Dora came in and made some accusations towards Benjamin being mentioned and skipped over the Betty stuff. Was a post that felt very much like a post that was posted for the sake of it

Laura sits as a possible, 7 posts, substances is low but a new player so will give a slide for today.

Im between yourself, Dora and Betty for tonight tbh

What's your actual reason for William?

He killed a villager with any discussion on it. At the very least he could have refrained for a few hours and made a more informed decision.

He's being challenged by a couple of players his default is where are you voting. 

His vote at the moment is going on another no poster, its a lazy wasted vote and gives the village nothing.

The only positive in all of that was he owned up immediately to killing Kevin. He's taking the path of least resistance, if someone voted for two no posters two nights in a row we'd all have a problem with it. He's effectively done that with the kill and the intended vote on Frank.

Is it too wolfy to be a wolf? Possibly

[William the Grave Robber]

Think people need to start soft declaring where they are voting so we can track it. More info we have the better

[William the Grave Robber]

What's your actual reason for William?

He killed a villager with any discussion on it. At the very least he could have refrained for a few hours and made a more informed decision.

He's being challenged by a couple of players his default is where are you voting. 

His vote at the moment is going on another no poster, its a lazy wasted vote and gives the village nothing.

The only positive in all of that was he owned up immediately to killing Kevin. He's taking the path of least resistance, if someone voted for two no posters two nights in a row we'd all have a problem with it. He's effectively done that with the kill and the intended vote on Frank.

Is it too wolfy to be a wolf? Possibly

Ok, let's play out if I didn't banish Kevin. I still have the banish in play. Kevin remains in the pool for murder. What new info have you learned today that would lead you to your decision?
Of course I'm going to ask who are you voting for? Why wouldn't I ask that? You are online at the time and so a better chance of getting a response. I gave my reasons for Kevin at the time.

[Dora the Explorer]

What's your actual reason for William?

He killed a villager with any discussion on it. At the very least he could have refrained for a few hours and made a more informed decision.

He's being challenged by a couple of players his default is where are you voting. 

His vote at the moment is going on another no poster, its a lazy wasted vote and gives the village nothing.

The only positive in all of that was he owned up immediately to killing Kevin. He's taking the path of least resistance, if someone voted for two no posters two nights in a row we'd all have a problem with it. He's effectively done that with the kill and the intended vote on Frank.

Is it too wolfy to be a wolf? Possibly

Did @William the Grave Robber say that he had to pick someone to banish there and then? If so then his choice was valid enough if he had no one else to go on. If he could of talked about it then yeh maybe it wasn't the best choice.

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Zeena with the arrive, post, leave magic trick.

Clued in enough to know who's dead and that McD removed himself but not bothered to post.

If not Frank, I'll go here

I'm in Berlin on hols so I'm just dipping in and out. Back in hotel, read whole thread and took note of well, things of note. Lol.

[William the Grave Robber]

He killed a villager with any discussion on it. At the very least he could have refrained for a few hours and made a more informed decision.

He's being challenged by a couple of players his default is where are you voting. 

His vote at the moment is going on another no poster, its a lazy wasted vote and gives the village nothing.

The only positive in all of that was he owned up immediately to killing Kevin. He's taking the path of least resistance, if someone voted for two no posters two nights in a row we'd all have a problem with it. He's effectively done that with the kill and the intended vote on Frank.

Is it too wolfy to be a wolf? Possibly

Did @William the Grave Robber say that he had to pick someone to banish there and then? If so then his choice was valid enough if he had no one else to go on. If he could of talked about it then yeh maybe it wasn't the best choice.

I had the day to muse it over.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

He killed a villager with any discussion on it. At the very least he could have refrained for a few hours and made a more informed decision.

He's being challenged by a couple of players his default is where are you voting. 

His vote at the moment is going on another no poster, its a lazy wasted vote and gives the village nothing.

The only positive in all of that was he owned up immediately to killing Kevin. He's taking the path of least resistance, if someone voted for two no posters two nights in a row we'd all have a problem with it. He's effectively done that with the kill and the intended vote on Frank.

Is it too wolfy to be a wolf? Possibly

Ok, let's play out if I didn't banish Kevin. I still have the banish in play. Kevin remains in the pool for murder. What new info have you learned today that would lead you to your decision?
Of course I'm going to ask who are you voting for? Why wouldn't I ask that? You are online at the time and so a better chance of getting a response. I gave my reasons for Kevin at the time.

Sorry ive no issue with you asking how im voting for, but you've done nothing like that yourself. You've flipped the question earlier regarding Kevin to say who would you have killed. Then you've come back this evening and pointed squarely at a no poster again. You've not offered insights on active players which is itself worrying.

[Donald the Spoofer]

Can those who won a prize confirm if you had to declare it on thread or it was up to yourself?

[Dora the Explorer]

No banishment if you don't post? So people can be silent observers?

This is interesting from Zeena yesterday and then contributed with a grand total of four posts after this.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

@Betty the Beggar why did you pick Vincent and Benjamin as your alignment picks? Benjamin declared himself as new so exempt from banishment tonight which makes it less likely he will be revealed.

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

He killed a villager with any discussion on it. At the very least he could have refrained for a few hours and made a more informed decision.

He's being challenged by a couple of players his default is where are you voting. 

His vote at the moment is going on another no poster, its a lazy wasted vote and gives the village nothing.

The only positive in all of that was he owned up immediately to killing Kevin. He's taking the path of least resistance, if someone voted for two no posters two nights in a row we'd all have a problem with it. He's effectively done that with the kill and the intended vote on Frank.

Is it too wolfy to be a wolf? Possibly

Did @William the Grave Robber say that he had to pick someone to banish there and then? If so then his choice was valid enough if he had no one else to go on. If he could of talked about it then yeh maybe it wasn't the best choice.

That was the impression I got. I'm on my phone so I'm not going to check back.

[William the Grave Robber]

Zeena with the arrive, post, leave magic trick.

Clued in enough to know who's dead and that McD removed himself but not bothered to post.

If not Frank, I'll go here

I'm in Berlin on hols so I'm just dipping in and out. Back in hotel, read whole thread and took note of well, things of note. Lol.

Appreciate the response. GL playing on hols, it's a tough slog

[McDonald the Farmer]

Benjamin ain’t no noob.

sup Benji