The Gang Solves The Werewolf Crisis

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

This is really difficult. I have now read through all 15 pages of the thread and finally made notes.
I'll try and be succinct.
And all in all, reading back over some of the posts now, knowing who players were, it puts a different slant on things.

- Pat was the Seer and yet he cast doubt on Ina initially. As he likely hadn't seen. Had he seen by the time he then voted Laura? If not. did he even get a chance to see, because he didnt say much else before his demise.
-Why do Kevin and William both talk about 5 wolves? And why does Dexter say twice about there only being one female wolf. Given that we are losing the lovely ladies left right and centre, that doesn't leave many in the pool.
- Prada seems to have a good read of the game, i.e. is experienced, but she also throws around a fair few red herrings. The Pat marrying his cousin was one oft repeated, one which she said she would stop, but sure what does it matter now that Pat is dead, and was shown to be a RV? So why continue the joke? She sows seeds for Moe and WEndy- now both known to be villagers- to be the married cousins. Prada also sows seeds about Boris and Donald (who we now know to be a FM), and accuses Moe, who we know was also a villager. She also calls MAgda "clued in" earlier on in the game, which is gas as MAgda had posted like, once, or sth at that stage.
- Why does Kevin point at Frank and me on several occasions despite admitting/ being told we are new? Granted he relented on me but picks up the Frank thread later on. Is this to divert suspcicion?
- Dexter also votes for me saying I am pretending to be new. Chris also seem to be protecting Dexter in some small way.
- I still think that occam's razor applies to the SK being a new poster. Therefore this points to Vernon and Magda. I do think it would be a stretch for Robin or Gordon to have pulled that off, and have to take Robin at his word when he says he wasnt allowed join til 10 am today.
- William points many fingers, but votes for Betty in the end, a villager.
-Laura darts in and out, sowing some seeds on Dexter for example. Why? Why in and out too? (No pun intended DExter)
- FEel like BOris is a villager.
That is all I got for now.
Need to go do some work in the lab before I get sacked.

[William the Grave Robber]

You've played before right? You should know that a sub doesn't get backsies, the SK wouldn't have been given 2 kills just because they subbed in on D2.

My wording was poor there,  I meant that yesterday's kill was left until 9.59 this morning

Nope, this is what you said:

"That reads to me that the SK has been given a second kill this morning because they missed out on one yesterday morning."

[Prada the Seamstress]

Jaysus I read Magda as MAGA there for a minute. The irony after the whole spat between me and Kevin over Donald.

@Benjamin the Alchemist where did I say anything about Wendy or Moe being married cousins? I didn't say anything of the sort.

The Boris/Donald thing was so obviously a joke too I'm not even going to explain that.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

What if... Dee is a McPoyle and her brother is Dennis, who is Pat the Baker. Quite a few in the mix for wolves for me now.

Caught up on the thread and remembered this from my notes, why did you say Pat the Baker was Dennis? Bit odd that he was.

And what made you think he was a wolf?

I didn't cop at the start that Dennis was a seer and therefore good. I thought a seer could be on either side. Obviously I realise now that the wolves know who they all are, ergo, they don't need a seer. The only one they dont know who it is is the SK. 
Furthermore, in my initial supposition, I think that Dee and Dennis are related. Dee: (from outside) I can hear you guys!! Dennis you know your system doesn’t work on me, I’m your sister Goddammit!
I think I was running with Prada's theory that two were related and therefore

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Caught up on the thread and remembered this from my notes, why did you say Pat the Baker was Dennis? Bit odd that he was.

And what made you think he was a wolf?

I didn't cop at the start that Dennis was a seer and therefore good. I thought a seer could be on either side. Obviously I realise now that the wolves know who they all are, ergo, they don't need a seer. The only one they dont know who it is is the SK. 
Furthermore, in my initial supposition, I think that Dee and Dennis are related. Dee: (from outside) I can hear you guys!! Dennis you know your system doesn’t work on me, I’m your sister Goddammit!
I think I was running with Prada's theory that two were related and therefore

damn, that posted before I was ready.Ok. So Dee says herself and Dennis are brother and sister, and I was running with PRada's "marrying family theory" making the male part of that Pat (as she had indicated with her initial post on the matter with the angel emoji)

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Jaysus I read Magda as MAGA there for a minute. The irony after the whole spat between me and Kevin over Donald.

@Benjamin the Alchemist where did I say anything about Wendy or Moe being married cousins? I didn't say anything of the sort.

The Boris/Donald thing was so obviously a joke too I'm not even going to explain that.

Let me see. It was just before Vernon joined the conversation acc to my notes. Is there an easy way to search the thread? I am having to individually go into Prada's posts and she is a prolific poster.

[William the Grave Robber]

I didn't cop at the start that Dennis was a seer and therefore good. I thought a seer could be on either side. Obviously I realise now that the wolves know who they all are, ergo, they don't need a seer. The only one they dont know who it is is the SK. 
Furthermore, in my initial supposition, I think that Dee and Dennis are related. Dee: (from outside) I can hear you guys!! Dennis you know your system doesn’t work on me, I’m your sister Goddammit!
I think I was running with Prada's theory that two were related and therefore

damn, that posted before I was ready.Ok. So Dee says herself and Dennis are brother and sister, and I was running with PRada's "marrying family theory" making the male part of that Pat (as she had indicated with her initial post on the matter with the angel emoji)

[Vernon the Ranger]

When should we do a FFA? Or is that dangerous?

When should we do a FFA? Or is that dangerous?

If you have suspicions you can do it at any stage. 

For instance, I'm a little suss of Ina May and Moe over comments that might be seen as a perspective slip.

And Pat the Baker is suss for marrying his cousin.

Despite my little spat with Kevin I'm not that bothered about him right now, he either finds my jokes about Trump and Boris deeply offensive or he's reading too much into it. He's doing something though, at least even if it is at my expense.

There's my suss list as of now

Ima...i think you slipped
Betty...initial posts
Chris...posts linked too much with Pat
Pat...posts linked to much with Chris

Discuss?

I don't see the Chris/Pat thing tbh.

Sell me on Betty. Ina's post I highlighted already.

I thought they defensive very early in response to another poster. 
Thought they threw out too many possibilities around the OP, trying to sew confusion it read to me. Speculated on at least 4 wolves maybe 5. Ignored the SK altogether.

Thats enough for me to be suss, I'll leave others to come up with their own conclusions

So you reckon Betty might be the SK in other words? Ok thanks for explaining anyways. I'll have a read of their posts later. Just leaving work shortly.

4.5 hours until yeet and 4 players yet to post.

Player Post Count
Prada the Seamstress 41
Benjamin the Alchemist 37
Kevin the Armorer 30
Boris the Fool 21
Betty the Beggar 17
Wendy the Wench 16
Dexter the Dragoon 15
Maeve the Madam 14
Chris the Carpenter 10
Donald the Spoofer 8
Edward the Barber 8
Moe the Innkeeper 8
Amy the Singer 5
Pat the Baker 5
Frank the Tank 4
William the Grave Robber 4
Ina May the Midwife 3
Magda the Maid 3
Laura the Lace Mistress 1
Gordon the Cook 0
Rhoda the Spinster 0
Robin the Jester 0
Vernon the Ranger 0

I would have 2 wolves in the posters with 5 posts or lower.

If ye are going to call out such small things as slips, no wonder players might be reluctant to post. 

I'm an experienced player, I would never slip. 

Happy to go up against anyone tonight though

That's a fair enough comment but could be said as any alignment tbf Ina. I think the lack of posting from a lot is highlighting stuff like that to me more than it normally would. As you know, it's hard day 1 especially with very little info bar Maeves death.

I find Benjamin suspicious but I also think they're a new player based off their posting so I'm not particularly comfortable voting them tonight if that makes sense.

So in the absence of that train of thought, I'm left with my own thoughts in relation to how you phrased that post, and also Moe's as I brought up earlier. And I'm also completely aware that it very well could be innocently posted. But I have to be honest, I've got nothing else right now.

I've decided to be honest about my vote. It's going to Benjamin.

Why you ask? Well gather around ladies and I'll tell you. Men, you're welcome to listen too.

The reasons are twofold.

I don't believe Benjamin is the newbie he'd like us to think. It seems to me, he's hoping people will avoid voting for him in case they spoil their vote on account of the amnesty but I think he knows more about this 'game' then he lets on.

More pertinently, he appeared to be greatly envious of my impressive equipment. Who else would be jealous of a handsome male, that can turn the heads of the ladies, than an alpha wolf!?

Amnesty?

Not sure if you're new or just not about of late but we've been operating under an amnesty for new players on day 1 from lynching recently. 

More about growing the community and allowing our new players to experience a decent run in the game than anything else tbh

"amnesty?" "wagonomics?" 'oh I'm just a poor newbie, with no Idea what's happening and I somehow missed all the earlier chat about amnesty'

*chuckles in handsome*.

You must be head of the local amateur dramatics society Benjamin!

I'm also not convinced that Benjamin is the newbie that others have claimed him to be. I note that he has not expressly claimed to be new.

These are two of his earliest posts. Decent attempt at identifying roles and also the first to do so in the thread. It doesn't ring true of a first time player, even one who may have read over previous games.

So does the narrative make The Waitress the SK then? I'll give her some truth serum and make her tell all.....

Ok so here is my take from the OP.
The Waitress hates everyone. She is seen to be "playing both sides" (SK?)
Dee has turned into a werewolf and Frank calls her Froggy implying she is green. However, she said she is related to Dennis, yet Charlie calls himself Green Man.
Dennis is the seer (and immune?)
Mac is strong?
The McPoyles are not nice... but is Mac (Mc? related to them in some way?)... the have a crest - which seems to be a fireball of type, and milk which is poison but Charlie implies it could also be turned to a force for good "fight milk".

That is all I got for now

This is followed by confusing Ryan McPoyle and the milk with the Waitress as the SK. And despite being challenged on that earlier repeated it again.

Protected from what? From my notes from yesterday I had that "Dennis" is both seer and immune,  if that is possible?
I think Wendy gave the milk, and she is SK and that's who's on my vote sheet for the moment 
Reinforced by her reply to me when I asked her was Maeve her boss, she said she is only out for herself... or something to that effect.... I'm paraphrasing. It was actually even more direct than that.

Something feels off to me.

Had a full read back and this is what stood out to me so far.

Benjamin - newbie, but seems to be overplaying the 'I haven't a clue' act. Had a weird interpretation of the OP, said Frank called Dee Froggy, Mac might be related to the McPoyles, the crest is a fireball, called out Prada and Moe for using 'brah', said Prada, Kevin and Pat are all related, speculated Dee is a McPoyle, Dennis is her brother, Dennis is Pat the Baker and Dee and Dennis are wolves. Asked did the Waitress SK serve the poisoned milk, is Ryan the SK and repeated asking if the waitress SK served the milk. Could be a wolf playing the confused newbie. Gets a pass for today anyway.

Betty agreed that the waitress could have served the milk. Don't think they're a newbie so should know that the SK and wolves aren't linked.

I can see why Wendy mentioned Chrisopher and Pat being linked because they posted too soon together, Christopher 4 mins after Pat, Christopher thanked Pat and added him to his good list for his summary. When called out for clearing Pat when others had done the same Christopher said he only read page 3. I don't think 2 wolves would do this but maybe a pocketing attempt?

I can also see why Moe and Ina's posts look like perspective slips and they seem to separate themselves from the village, something to keep in mind.

Kevin and Prada's little spat could be two wolves attempting to distance themselves, it was obvious the yeeting Trump thing was a joke by Prada based on the real Trump, there was no attempt to start a bandwagon whatsoever.

I'm thinking of voting for Sweaty Betty at the mo.

I'm also not convinced that Benjamin is the newbie that others have claimed him to be. I note that he has not expressly claimed to be new.

These are two of his earliest posts. Decent attempt at identifying roles and also the first to do so in the thread. It doesn't ring true of a first time player, even one who may have read over previous games.



This is followed by confusing Ryan McPoyle and the milk with the Waitress as the SK. And despite being challenged on that earlier repeated it again.


Something feels off to me.

I agree to a point but I think it's something that can (and most likely will) be explored tomorrow

Meh, I'm coming around to the idea that Benji is just an enthusiastic newbie posting from the hip, so to speak. They might be wrong about bits and pieces but at least they're engaging with everyone.

I totally missed the fireball reference. That looks like a backroom information slip.
If we can't kill ben today, don't forget this tomorrow, that's a wolf for sure, slipping that the family power is a fireball.
First mention of fireball on thread was ben.

What do you think of my observation that your spat with Prada looks contrived?

I’ve missed one from Amy just above the last one from William where she’s not going Ben cos he’s a noob but picking Kevin instead. 

Im not used to this forum so posting this so I can read over it and give my thoughts in a separate post.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Jaysus I read Magda as MAGA there for a minute. The irony after the whole spat between me and Kevin over Donald.

@Benjamin the Alchemist where did I say anything about Wendy or Moe being married cousins? I didn't say anything of the sort.

The Boris/Donald thing was so obviously a joke too I'm not even going to explain that.

[Vernon the Ranger]

There was a total of 13 posts yesterday morning (I didn’t include the middle of the night ones). The only players that would know it was a flavour munch were wolves. 

Maeve (2 posts), Chris (2), Donald (2), Prada (2), Dexter (1), Frank (1), Boris (3). 

Players to interact with Donald - Dexter & Prada. 

Ask yourself if all wolves abstain from posting leading up to a munch. 

————————

There were 46 posts leading up to Maeve’s poisoning. 

Maeve (1), Boris (5 till midday), Amy (1 after munch), Dexter (6 till 12.30), Prada (13 throughout), Chris (1 after munch), Kevin (9 till midday), Moe (4 till midday), Laura (1 before midday), Pat (3 - 45 min before poison), Ben (3 - before poison)

Make of this what you will

Just on your second sentence, all games start with a flavour munch. It's usually a throw away name based on the theme, the unusual thing here was Donald was named as a player and actually posted, I presume it was lorc to set up the flavour munch.

I beg to differ. Not all games start with a flavour munch. Game masters prerogative.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Post #342 but I meant PAT and WENDY not MOE and WENDY. Either way, they are all villagers.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Also, Amy is being super quiet.

[Prada the Seamstress]

Post #342 but I meant PAT  and WENDY not MOE and WENDY. Either way, they are all villagers.

But I didn't say anything about Wendy being a married cousin?

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

What is with all the quoting Vernon, that is making my eyes go spinny. And I say that as someone who has done 7 pages of a4 refill pad over an exrtended lunch break.
I'm not an excel sort of person... very old school.

[William the Grave Robber]

Just on your second sentence, all games start with a flavour munch. It's usually a throw away name based on the theme, the unusual thing here was Donald was named as a player and actually posted, I presume it was lorc to set up the flavour munch.

I beg to differ. Not all games start with a flavour munch. Game masters prerogative.

All recent one have to give everyone a chance to play.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

As in I'm a wench out on my own. My username here. 
But vote for me based on that if you want. At least youve given a reason to justify your vote

Are you Pat's cousin/wife?

Yes you did though. You asked Wendy was she Pat's cousin/wife.

I know I am a slow learner, but I thought this was fairly straightforward, no?

Je suis perdu!

[William the Grave Robber]

I thought at the time this suggested he was seer, iyd annoying he didn't play his own game! Presuming he peeked yesterday we might have some info

This game gets brought up in most games so wouldn't necessarily indicate Seer. He should have posted his own so whatever info he had was on thread.

I don't think Pat had any info at that stage, it looks like he wanted guidance on who to peek so looked like an RV.

[Vernon the Ranger]

@Prada the Seamstress


Wendy the Wench Wrote:
I thought they defensive very early in response to another poster.
Thought they threw out too many possibilities around the OP, trying to sew confusion it read to me. Speculated on at least 4 wolves maybe 5. Ignored the SK altogether.

Thats enough for me to be suss, I'll leave others to come up with their own conclusions

Prada the Seamstress Wrote:
So you reckon Betty might be the SK in other words? Ok thanks for explaining anyways. I'll have a read of their posts later. Just leaving work shortly.





Did you read Betty’s posts later?

[Vernon the Ranger]

#FFA2

In alphabetical order

AMY
PRADA
WILLIAM

I’m out for a few hours. I won’t cast a vote till later.

[Magda the Maid]

Hi all 👋

I’ve only skimmed the thread so don’t think I’m ignoring anybody but I’m going back to the start again now 😊

Why are you referring to Jabronies in the 3rd person? Are you not included in that?

Ina May, you never replied to this post from Benjamin. Why? 🤔

I’ve never heard of it but is fireball a power?

I’ve voted for @Ina May the Midwife

Mac: I dunno man. But Ryan had the milk, Liam had this weird crest thing.

Dennis: Oh shit, that’s the McPoyle Family Crest. There’s no telling what it could do. Best we just avoid it. And guys, don’t drink that milk. It’s probably laced with horse tranquilizers and God knows what else

Charlie: I wonder if I could make milk steak with it?? Oooohhhh maybe some Fight Milk

Dennis: Jesus Charlie, will you concentrate for one minute please!?

Between 6.30 pm and 7.30pm these are the players who posted -
Benjamin -  8 times
Betty - once
Wendy - 2 times
Prada - 6 times
Pat - 2 times
Moe - 3 times
Dexter - 3 times
Chris - 2 times
Edward - 5 times
Amy - 2 times
Vernon - 2 times

7.30pm to yeet
Boris - once
Chris - 4 times
Ben - 4 times
Kevin - 3 times
Moe - 3 times
Vernon - 3 times
Prada - 2 times
William - 4 times
Amy - once
Betty - once

Gotta be a baddie or two in the above

Sorry Ina 😬

My read is that no wolf was on the line, my guess is Ina is gone on three votes

Betty and Amy were chilling.

What time did you vote Vernon?

After I had tagged Ina May. Probably about 15 mins before I declared on thread.

How many votes were declared on thread.

Id be suspicious of anyone who voted for someone already nominated on thread.

So Betty, Amy & Vernon

And if I’d voted for the same player as Betty or Amy but was the last to vote how does that work out? Do you accuse Wendy then? And what about Pat?

My thinking is that being second on a person is a nice safe place to hide for a wolf

I was the third

Good morning 😊

There was a total of 13 posts yesterday morning (I didn’t include the middle of the night ones). The only players that would know it was a flavour munch were wolves. 

Maeve (2 posts), Chris (2), Donald (2), Prada (2), Dexter (1), Frank (1), Boris (3). 

Players to interact with Donald - Dexter & Prada. 

Ask yourself if all wolves abstain from posting leading up to a munch. 

————————

There were 46 posts leading up to Maeve’s poisoning. 

Maeve (1), Boris (5 till midday), Amy (1 after munch), Dexter (6 till 12.30), Prada (13 throughout), Chris (1 after munch), Kevin (9 till midday), Moe (4 till midday), Laura (1 before midday), Pat (3 - 45 min before poison), Ben (3 - before poison)

Make of this what you will

The only players that would know it was a flavour munch were wolves.

from the modpost: Donald the Spoofer is dead. Donald the Spoofer was a Jabroni (among other things)…And a flavour kill

i could well be misunderstading you here....can you explain whats going on here

The wolves knew they wouldn’t be munching anybody so had no reason to not be around the thread before the munch. They had no reason to hide. I think there’s a good chance of a wolf in there.

Vernon, I think you'll find me in all of those lists.

It's like Father Jack when he sees Dougal on the telly.

But when I read back I’m just not sure if you’re a villager Prada. 

I might put up all the posts that relate to being suss or FfA or voting. See what others think. 

There was a crazy amount of time yesterday that the only ones interacting on the thread were our now dead villagers.

i get you...sort of.

that 1st much on donald trump was flavour. the wolves would have known this.

so is your conclusion:
wolves would not be on thread cos flavour much.
or
wolves would be on thread cos of flavour munch.

i guess i just dont know what info this tells us. 


I think there’s a good chance of a wolf in there.

where?

in the players who posted on thread prior to yesterdays munch. The top section of that long post of mine

Well Vernon subbed in prior to the lynch yesterday and I've liked what they're trying to do for the most part.

Misguided based on the fact that they see my high activity as suspicious (that is par for the course for me tbf). But they seem to be coming from an honest position, at least.

Just so nobody gets confused, it’s not the fact that you are a high poster that has me suspicious of you. It’s the contents of your posts (not every one of them) that I’m now wondering about.

When should we do a FFA? Or is that dangerous?

If you have suspicions you can do it at any stage. 

For instance, I'm a little suss of Ina May and Moe over comments that might be seen as a perspective slip.

And Pat the Baker is suss for marrying his cousin.

Despite my little spat with Kevin I'm not that bothered about him right now, he either finds my jokes about Trump and Boris deeply offensive or he's reading too much into it. He's doing something though, at least even if it is at my expense.

I don't see the Chris/Pat thing tbh.

Sell me on Betty. Ina's post I highlighted already.

So you reckon Betty might be the SK in other words? Ok thanks for explaining anyways. I'll have a read of their posts later. Just leaving work shortly.

I would have 2 wolves in the posters with 5 posts or lower.

That's a fair enough comment but could be said as any alignment tbf Ina. I think the lack of posting from a lot is highlighting stuff like that to me more than it normally would. As you know, it's hard day 1 especially with very little info bar Maeves death.

I find Benjamin suspicious but I also think they're a new player based off their posting so I'm not particularly comfortable voting them tonight if that makes sense.

So in the absence of that train of thought, I'm left with my own thoughts in relation to how you phrased that post, and also Moe's as I brought up earlier. And I'm also completely aware that it very well could be innocently posted. But I have to be honest, I've got nothing else right now.

I've decided to be honest about my vote. It's going to Benjamin.

Why you ask? Well gather around ladies and I'll tell you. Men, you're welcome to listen too.

The reasons are twofold.

I don't believe Benjamin is the newbie he'd like us to think. It seems to me, he's hoping people will avoid voting for him in case they spoil their vote on account of the amnesty but I think he knows more about this 'game' then he lets on.

More pertinently, he appeared to be greatly envious of my impressive equipment. Who else would be jealous of a handsome male, that can turn the heads of the ladies, than an alpha wolf!?

Not sure if you're new or just not about of late but we've been operating under an amnesty for new players on day 1 from lynching recently. 

More about growing the community and allowing our new players to experience a decent run in the game than anything else tbh

"amnesty?" "wagonomics?" 'oh I'm just a poor newbie, with no Idea what's happening and I somehow missed all the earlier chat about amnesty'

*chuckles in handsome*.

You must be head of the local amateur dramatics society Benjamin!

I'm also not convinced that Benjamin is the newbie that others have claimed him to be. I note that he has not expressly claimed to be new.

These are two of his earliest posts. Decent attempt at identifying roles and also the first to do so in the thread. It doesn't ring true of a first time player, even one who may have read over previous games.



This is followed by confusing Ryan McPoyle and the milk with the Waitress as the SK. And despite being challenged on that earlier repeated it again.


Something feels off to me.

Had a full read back and this is what stood out to me so far.

Benjamin - newbie, but seems to be overplaying the 'I haven't a clue' act. Had a weird interpretation of the OP, said Frank called Dee Froggy, Mac might be related to the McPoyles, the crest is a fireball, called out Prada and Moe for using 'brah', said Prada, Kevin and Pat are all related, speculated Dee is a McPoyle, Dennis is her brother, Dennis is Pat the Baker and Dee and Dennis are wolves. Asked did the Waitress SK serve the poisoned milk, is Ryan the SK and repeated asking if the waitress SK served the milk. Could be a wolf playing the confused newbie. Gets a pass for today anyway.

Betty agreed that the waitress could have served the milk. Don't think they're a newbie so should know that the SK and wolves aren't linked.

I can see why Wendy mentioned Chrisopher and Pat being linked because they posted too soon together, Christopher 4 mins after Pat, Christopher thanked Pat and added him to his good list for his summary. When called out for clearing Pat when others had done the same Christopher said he only read page 3. I don't think 2 wolves would do this but maybe a pocketing attempt?

I can also see why Moe and Ina's posts look like perspective slips and they seem to separate themselves from the village, something to keep in mind.

Kevin and Prada's little spat could be two wolves attempting to distance themselves, it was obvious the yeeting Trump thing was a joke by Prada based on the real Trump, there was no attempt to start a bandwagon whatsoever.

I'm thinking of voting for Sweaty Betty at the mo.

I agree to a point but I think it's something that can (and most likely will) be explored tomorrow

Meh, I'm coming around to the idea that Benji is just an enthusiastic newbie posting from the hip, so to speak. They might be wrong about bits and pieces but at least they're engaging with everyone.

What do you think of my observation that your spat with Prada looks contrived?

I’ve missed one from Amy just above the last one from William where she’s not going Ben cos he’s a noob but picking Kevin instead. 

Im not used to this forum so posting this so I can read over it and give my thoughts in a separate post.

@Prada the Seamstress


Wendy the Wench Wrote:
I thought they defensive very early in response to another poster.
Thought they threw out too many possibilities around the OP, trying to sew confusion it read to me. Speculated on at least 4 wolves maybe 5. Ignored the SK altogether.

Thats enough for me to be suss, I'll leave others to come up with their own conclusions

Prada the Seamstress Wrote:
So you reckon Betty might be the SK in other words? Ok thanks for explaining anyways. I'll have a read of their posts later. Just leaving work shortly.





Did you read Betty’s posts later?

Verns posts, thought he was wolfy, read back makes me think a little less so. I do have an issue around lynch time, no clear candidate for lynch. That causes issues for wolves just as much as a pile on

[Magda the Maid]

@Prada the Seamstress What time did you vote last night

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

FFA for the moment:
- Dexter. His mentioing of one lady wolf twice on the thread has me interested as to why he thinks (knows?) that.
- On re-reading, and I know that I thought to protect Prada this morning, but now I think she is sewing (ho ho) confusion deliberately
- Based on my earlier theory in relation to the SK, I think Magda and Vernon. Not totally sure why but leaning towards Vernon.

Also on my radar are Laura and Magda, esp if there is "one female wolf".

If there are a larger number of wolves, like was supposed by Kevin and William early on- both said 5 (why?), we are in a spot of bother. If Rhonda becomes a mod kill and is a villager, then we are running out of people. Folks, we NEED to get a wolf.

[Robin the Jester]

My FFA:
Amy
Laura
Magda

Again in alphabetical order.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

I will be voting just after 6pm this evening because I am out from 6.30 - 9 with v little access to my phone, and none to my laptop

[William the Grave Robber]

@Magda the Maid, that's a lot of quotes to say you had thought Vern was wolfy but less so now.

Why did you think he was wolfy? What changed your mind?

[Magda the Maid]

not much in the way of wagonomis tonight. the three 2 voters (me included) all voted singly.

Why the throwaway on a no poster at the time? You specifically asked earlier had everyone posted. 

I aint liking Laura so far

[Magda the Maid]

@Magda the Maid, that's a lot of quotes to say you had thought Vern was wolfy but less so now.

Why did you think he was wolfy? What changed your mind?

Last night, last vote on a very loose looking lynch. Wolves might move if there is a lot of unknowns. On readback today his posting style is good, combative and exploring options. I like his line of thinking and tackling

[Kevin the Armorer]

Did you just slip that prada is dee?

[Robin the Jester]

I'm also not convinced that Benjamin is the newbie that others have claimed him to be. I note that he has not expressly claimed to be new.

These are two of his earliest posts. Decent attempt at identifying roles and also the first to do so in the thread. It doesn't ring true of a first time player, even one who may have read over previous games.

So does the narrative make The Waitress the SK then? I'll give her some truth serum and make her tell all.....

Ok so here is my take from the OP.
The Waitress hates everyone. She is seen to be "playing both sides" (SK?)
Dee has turned into a werewolf and Frank calls her Froggy implying she is green. However, she said she is related to Dennis, yet Charlie calls himself Green Man.
Dennis is the seer (and immune?)
Mac is strong?
The McPoyles are not nice... but is Mac (Mc? related to them in some way?)... the have a crest - which seems to be a fireball of type, and milk which is poison but Charlie implies it could also be turned to a force for good "fight milk".

That is all I got for now

This is followed by confusing Ryan McPoyle and the milk with the Waitress as the SK. And despite being challenged on that earlier repeated it again.

Protected from what? From my notes from yesterday I had that "Dennis" is both seer and immune, if that is possible?
I think Wendy gave the milk, and she is SK and that's who's on my vote sheet for the moment
Reinforced by her reply to me when I asked her was Maeve her boss, she said she is only out for herself... or something to that effect.... I'm paraphrasing. It was actually even more direct than that.

Something feels off to me.

Giving a pass to known and suspected newbies Frank and Benjamin (particularly after explicitly saying newbie in #361), and Vernon for tonight. Ignoring the no posters.

That means my attention turns to Kevin. Couple of things standing out to me at the minute - suggests voting for Frank on a couple of occasions after Frank had stated he was new (post #44 and #134). In post #123 claimed Benjamin outed an RV but quoted the post which draws more attention to the post. In post #166 said that Donald the Spoofer was an enemy to the wolves even though it was a flavour kill and then went on to suggest that what read to me as a joke by Prada on lynching based on the name was starting a bandwagon on Donald.

From my FFA Amy is named because out of their 16 posts, these are the only 2 where they are calling out any other posters as suss. They haven't posted anything of substance from what I can see, and even these posts aren't very strong reasons.
This can be a typical wolf play, don't stick your next up above the parapet, coast on by, etc.

[Prada the Seamstress]

@Prada the Seamstress


Wendy the Wench Wrote:
I thought they defensive very early in response to another poster.
Thought they threw out too many possibilities around the OP, trying to sew confusion it read to me. Speculated on at least 4 wolves maybe 5. Ignored the SK altogether.

Thats enough for me to be suss, I'll leave others to come up with their own conclusions

Prada the Seamstress Wrote:
So you reckon Betty might be the SK in other words? Ok thanks for explaining anyways. I'll have a read of their posts later. Just leaving work shortly.





Did you read Betty’s posts later?

Yep, didn't see what Wendy was seeing tbh.

[Kevin the Armorer]

I didn't cop at the start that Dennis was a seer and therefore good. I thought a seer could be on either side. Obviously I realise now that the wolves know who they all are, ergo, they don't need a seer. The only one they dont know who it is is the SK. 
Furthermore, in my initial supposition, I think that Dee and Dennis are related. Dee: (from outside) I can hear you guys!! Dennis you know your system doesn’t work on me, I’m your sister Goddammit!
I think I was running with Prada's theory that two were related and therefore

damn, that posted before I was ready.Ok. So Dee says herself and Dennis are brother and sister, and I was running with PRada's "marrying family theory" making the male part of that Pat (as she had indicated with her initial post on the matter with the angel emoji)

Did you just slip that prada is dee?

Meant to quote this

[Prada the Seamstress]

@Prada the Seamstress What time did you vote last night

About 6.30/7ish? I was out with my uncle for his birthday so was only on intermittently after that

[William the Grave Robber]

FFA for the moment:
- Dexter. His mentioing of one lady wolf twice on the thread has me interested as to why he thinks (knows?) that.
- On re-reading, and I know that I thought to protect Prada this morning, but now I think she is sewing (ho ho) confusion deliberately
- Based on my earlier theory in relation to the SK, I think Magda and Vernon. Not totally sure why but leaning towards Vernon.

Also on my radar are Laura and Magda, esp if there is "one female wolf".

If there are a larger number of wolves, like was supposed by Kevin and William early on- both said 5 (why?), we are in a spot of bother. If Rhonda becomes a mod kill and is a villager, then we are running out of people. Folks, we NEED to get a wolf.

I speculated that there might be 5 wolves based on the numbers. I thought we started with 23 players, I didn't know Donald wasn't a real player.

Wolf numbers are usually 25% of village numbers. 3 wolves were named in the OP, Dee and Liam and Ryan McPoyle. The OP also made it clear that no one knew exactly how many McPoyles were outside the bar but named Ryan with his milk and Liam with the crest. That suggested there were more unnamed wolves so I guessed 5 with the unnamed being vanilla wolves.

You'll see others thought 4 was more likely because there's also a SK.

[Prada the Seamstress]

damn, that posted before I was ready.Ok. So Dee says herself and Dennis are brother and sister, and I was running with PRada's "marrying family theory" making the male part of that Pat (as she had indicated with her initial post on the matter with the angel emoji)

Did you just slip that prada is dee?

Meant to quote this

That first post of Benjis is literally quoting the OP. How would it be a slip. Apart from the fact that I'm not Dee🤣

[Robin the Jester]

Its ok, ive played a lot of games and the OP went completely over my head initially

Id guess 4 wolves with an sk in a 23 player game, either that or 5 and the power wolves aren't that powerful. Here's hoping anyway

Roles are randed, I wouldn't sign up to a game if it wasnt. We've had multiple new players in recent games, 3 in 4 in recent games weren't wolves. This is lazy analysis

Hi folks, apologies here, was travelling today and had a delay in the airport with two impatient kids. Literally in the door.

Apologies to everyone and the mods. Will be active tomorrow, can hopefully add a bit to the village

Its day 1, interaction charts are useless particularly given you dont know who the wolves are, its never worth looking at until later in the game in my opinion

I'll be looking into Vernon and Moe on my first read back, briefly skimmed the thread yesterday and that's my initial two names.

On a side note, anyone any suggestions on getting around a work firewall for this site? Painful on the phone

These are @Magda the Maid posts to date.

RE: Patience - you might not have patience to wait to use it - an experienced player might just to brew further confusion. Day 1 with very little to go on you would want to use as much info as possible to try hit a role.
As a village we are doing fairly sh*t in this game so far, but at least we haven't lost any of our major roles.
I find @Chris the Carpenter strategy to just take out the subbed in players because of his belief that one might be roled not a very village tactic to be quite honest. We need to look at all possibilities and not just tunnel on one.

@Prada the Seamstress What time did you vote last night

not much in the way of wagonomis tonight. the three 2 voters (me included) all voted singly.

Why the throwaway on a no poster at the time? You specifically asked earlier had everyone posted. 

I aint liking Laura so far

@Magda the Maid, that's a lot of quotes to say you had thought Vern was wolfy but less so now.

Why did you think he was wolfy? What changed your mind?

Last night, last vote on a very loose looking lynch. Wolves might move if there is a lot of unknowns. On readback today his posting style is good, combative and exploring options. I like his line of thinking and tackling

To be fair to Vernon, he was subbed in around 6pm, and said he voted at 8pm. I'm not saying it doesn't make him wolf, but I think he gets a pass in this case for voting late. 

On the other hand, your posts haven't added much to the thread at all. 
A few people have mentioned Laura's throwaway vote. Apart from that, who are you suss of?

[Prada the Seamstress]

Caught up on the thread and remembered this from my notes, why did you say Pat the Baker was Dennis? Bit odd that he was.

And what made you think he was a wolf?

I didn't cop at the start that Dennis was a seer and therefore good. I thought a seer could be on either side. Obviously I realise now that the wolves know who they all are, ergo, they don't need a seer. The only one they dont know who it is is the SK. 
Furthermore, in my initial supposition, I think that Dee and Dennis are related. Dee: (from outside) I can hear you guys!! Dennis you know your system doesn’t work on me, I’m your sister Goddammit!
I think I was running with Prada's theory that two were related and therefore

This one @Kevin the Armorer

The formatting is off on the original post as it's a direct quote from the OP

[Kevin the Armorer]

Meant to quote this

That first post of Benjis is literally quoting the OP. How would it be a slip. Apart from the fact that I'm not Dee🤣

Well. If you flip Dee, it looks bad for ben, but flipping you b4 ben would be the plan.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

right, i think i might just call it a day with work and get cracking.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Yes I was quoting the OP. In in the character
Dee says she is Dennis's sister.
Later on, on post whatever number I said, 300 and sth, Prada queries whether Pat and Wendy are related

[Prada the Seamstress]

That first post of Benjis is literally quoting the OP. How would it be a slip. Apart from the fact that I'm not Dee🤣

Well. If you flip Dee, it looks bad for ben, but flipping you b4 ben would be the plan.

I'd argue against flipping me at all tbh!