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[Moe the Innkeeper]

Reading posts from Boris this morning he does seem to doubt Raymond's rationale for voting for Amy and has a very soft defence of Lily. He questioned me about Oprah too and was sure Mc wasn't Scar.

I'll look at posts from Raymond, Countess and Amy and give my thoughts. I had also read the Mc veto on Jacob as a clear so will need to look back there too.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

To add to that, I think if Ray flips bad, I think Amy is the other one there due to Rays "clear" comment

We can't afford a wrong flip and you know it. There is lynch and then munch. We need to be lynched wisely.

So, who would you wisely lynch.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

It's 5 V 4 we need to come to a consensus for a lynch vote, every single person needs to agree and everyone has to vote there, if even one breaks away, all the wolves can vote there and win the game.. this means that if you are selected you need to who you are voting for to yourself and maybe even vote randomly. If they have another vote block.. well we are fecked then

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Need to keep who you are voting for, to yourself

[Countess Markievicz]

i think we're fucked. we need to vote as a block of 5 else on a wolf. else, the wolves engineer a drawn vote and cruella gives the wolves the win.

[Jacob the Tailor]

If she had a peek Sunday night and chose Amy it would make sense. Why would you vote so cleanly night one

You're cherry picking Dora's posts. What do you mean by voting cleanly? 
Dora went after Friar, Dex and me. She was wrong on Friar and me but why are you overlooking that she went about things fairly logically and that Dexter was on her list too?

By cleanly I mean she talks to others but out of the blue goes after you. Sometimes seers do this as they know they've found a wolf

[Jacob the Tailor]

i think we're fucked. we need to vote as a block of 5 else on a wolf. else, the wolves engineer a drawn vote and cruella gives the wolves the win.

4 wolves vote on Person A
5 Village vote Person B

Village is fine if that scenario plays out and the wolves wouldn't go for the train vote unless it was a clear win, they may have another block with Jafars possibly JOAT.

It's not looking good. 

We need transparency on votes I think, we can't have people voting randomly or without consensus it gives the wolves the win

[Countess Markievicz]

and another thing, hercules is now useless i think. if we survive lynch its 5vs3, then 4vs3 with munch.

there's no one more powerful left for him to sacrifice himself to save (maybe maybe one of those unknown roles).

any point having the discussion if he should come out? at least it will narrow the list of suspects.


also, if we lynch gaston the last person voting there will be also die.

the path to victory is getting thinner and thinner.

[Amy the Singer]

i think we're fucked. we need to vote as a block of 5 else on a wolf. else, the wolves engineer a drawn vote and cruella gives the wolves the win.

Agreed. I'd also be wary of a sacrificial wolf as it gets them where they want to go too.

[Jacob the Tailor]

How do we win this, lynch tonight and it's W, results in 5v3.

Wolves get their kill tomorrow morning it's 4v3.

We have to be squeaky clean the entire time.

We still have a bodyguard but going by OP if bodyguard uses his power then he does? And we lose.

[Jacob the Tailor]

He dies*

[Amy the Singer]

As I said this morning, any sneaky non lethal village powers need to be used today.

[Jacob the Tailor]

We need to have suspects soon. We can't let this run down to the wire.

Can everyone pop their top 2 suspects please and why

Mine
Amy due to Doras possible peek

Countess, not believing they have become this helpful villager with stats when earlier for first lynch vote they were waiting last minute to give information that could prove helpful

[Countess Markievicz]

We need to have suspects soon. We can't let this run down to the wire.

Can everyone pop their top 2 suspects please and why

Mine
Amy due to Doras possible peek

Countess, not believing they have become this helpful villager with stats when earlier for first lynch vote they were waiting last minute to give information that could prove helpful

well there aint no stats on day 1

[Jacob the Tailor]

We need to have suspects soon. We can't let this run down to the wire.

Can everyone pop their top 2 suspects please and why

Mine
Amy due to Doras possible peek

Countess, not believing they have become this helpful villager with stats when earlier for first lynch vote they were waiting last minute to give information that could prove helpful

well there aint no stats on day 1

Your top 2 suspects and why, go

[Amy the Singer]

We need to have suspects soon. We can't let this run down to the wire.

Can everyone pop their top 2 suspects please and why

Mine
Amy due to Doras possible peek

Countess, not believing they have become this helpful villager with stats when earlier for first lynch vote they were waiting last minute to give information that could prove helpful

Why are you focused on Dora's possible peek and ignoring Boris's almost guaranteed peek?

[Countess Markievicz]

Dexter the Dragoon 126
Boris the Fool 101
Raymond the Shoemaker 59
Amy the Singer 53
Jacob the Tailor 50
Countess Markievicz 46
McDonald the Farmer 40
Lilly the Millennial 38
Gordon the Cook 31
Oprah the Gossip 28
Dora the Explorer 20
Necro 18
Moe the Innkeeper 15
Vincent the Artist 12
Zeena Warrior Princess 10
Friar Tuck 7

[Vincent the Artist]

By my count, from last night's vote we've four verified village votes and one SK vote.

Each verified village vote went to a different player:
Boris voted Oprah
Dora voted Amy
Gordon voted Raymond
Oprah voted Jacob.

McDonald also voted Oprah

That leaves 5 non-verified village votes and 4 wolf votes from the remainder. Technically that means that all of the remaining Oprah votes from yesterday can be village. I think it unlikely that tactically the wolves would not have included at least one vote on Oprah especially given how the discussion was going yesterday but that's speculation.

I know my vote on Oprah was a village vote which turned out to be misplaced but I'm aware that can be claimed by any of the others who voted Oprah also

[Countess Markievicz]

I stayed on wagon as enough people had moved that it didn't matter. I made it clear I had no problem moving at a late stage if asked. I could also note that the wolves would have known that Oprah wasn't Gaston so late movers could have been wolves (as could I, as I offered to move late).

On balance I don't consider Mc wolf at present, as the veto thing would be a pretty ballsy move from a wolf.

do any of your team mates have the balls for that move?

raymond is where my vote is at. i know he will say he missed this question but i think he is unsure how to answer it so just ignored it hoping i would forget

[Vincent the Artist]

We need to have suspects soon. We can't let this run down to the wire.

Can everyone pop their top 2 suspects please and why

Mine
Amy due to Doras possible peek

Countess, not believing they have become this helpful villager with stats when earlier for first lynch vote they were waiting last minute to give information that could prove helpful

Why are you focused on Dora's possible peek and ignoring Boris's almost guaranteed peek?

Dora was killed before the lynch. My understanding is the lynch marks the change from day to night. Seers peek at night so Dora wouldn't have had the chance to peek.
Based on that I think the only possible peek would have been Boris's

[Amy the Singer]

Raymond seems to be trying to play down everything that leads to any suspicion at all on them this morning.. I think I'll be voting there today.

Ray
CM
Amy

Is my order at the mo

To add to that, I think if Ray flips bad, I think Amy is the other one there due to Rays "clear" comment

If that's the case, why am I last in your order?

[Amy the Singer]

Because at the time before the lynch, there were 2 wagons. Oprah and Amy, I wasn't a counter wagon based on the tallies by Jacob and Mc.
Wolves are known to spread across the wagons.

But you were working with the vote counts AFTER the lynch. It's literally in your post.

@Lilly the Millennial Any response to this?

[Amy the Singer]

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and another thing, hercules is now useless i think. if we survive lynch its 5vs3, then 4vs3 with munch.

there's no one more powerful left for him to sacrifice himself to save (maybe maybe one of those unknown roles).

any point having the discussion if he should come out? at least it will narrow the list of suspects.


also, if we lynch gaston the last person voting there will be also die. 

the path to victory is getting thinner and thinner.
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I think it's worth a discussion, especially given we've 2 newbies in the game. 

Being honest, I think we're likely fubar based on wolfy powers. I also think we can assume that wolves have no further killing power pre-lynch or we'd be at parity already. 

If village have some method of confirming someone else as village, I'd say stay hidden BG but I'm not sure that's the case. That said, it's probably worth staying hidden anyway unless their name comes into contention for lynch.  

and another thing, hercules is now useless i think. if we survive lynch its 5vs3, then 4vs3 with munch.

there's no one more powerful left for him to sacrifice himself to save (maybe maybe one of those unknown roles).

any point having the discussion if he should come out? at least it will narrow the list of suspects.


also, if we lynch gaston the last person voting there will be also die. 

the path to victory is getting thinner and thinner.

[Amy the Singer]

Well that was a mess of a post.

My contribution was this bit:
think it's worth a discussion, especially given we've 2 newbies in the game.

Being honest, I think we're likely fubar based on wolfy powers. I also think we can assume that wolves have no further killing power pre-lynch or we'd be at parity already.

If village have some method of confirming someone else as village, I'd say stay hidden BG but I'm not sure that's the case. That said, it's probably worth staying hidden anyway unless their name comes into contention for lynch.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Raymond seems to be trying to play down everything that leads to any suspicion at all on them this morning.. I think I'll be voting there today.

Ray
CM
Amy

Is my order at the mo

To add to that, I think if Ray flips bad, I think Amy is the other one there due to Rays "clear" comment

If that's the case, why am I last in your order?

That would be my order taking into account individual postings alone. I don't think you have been as Wolfy as the others. The clear comment only comes into play if Ray flips Wolf, then I would need to re-evaluate taking that comment into account

[Dexter the Dragoon]

If we still have a gun I'd risk it and shoot Vincent.. their post progression is astounding for a newbie, so either they have picked everything up already. Or they are getting help structuring posts.

[Moe the Innkeeper]

with no flavour munch today, we would lynch someone tonight for no reason. 
that makes the village the bad guys.

now, with the flavour munch, we have a reason to lynch someone

Can you explain this? A flavour munch is a standard mechanic used to allow all players have some game time.

@Gordon the Cook, why did you ask what a flavour munch is? Have you not played a Boards game before?

Had a read back on Countess. There's a lot of short posts that don't really add much and no reads list. They didn't seem to remember the Mc veto on shooting Jacob, they also left Dexter out of the Oprah votes when giving percentage chances of finding a wolf.

They have posted the excel sheets, stressed the need to block vote today, pointed out that Hercules isn't as powerful without a power role to protect as he dies if successful, and the fact that if we lynch Gaston the last voter dies with them.

Keen on Raymond for wolf and asked him if one of his teammates was ballsy enough to post the veto. We know Mc was the sk though at this stage though.

I couldn't say I'm convinced Countess is a wolf, but I'm not convinced they're village either. I really don't understand the logic behind the quoted post, a flavour munch doesn't give us a reason for lynch, and lynching without a flavour munch wouldn't make 'the village the bad guys'. Flavour is flavour and game dynamics are just game dynamics. 

Going to look at Raymond next.

[Countess Markievicz]

@Moe the Innkeeper

just regarding my post about the flavour munch to get the ball rolling. its more a meme based on the below.
as in if village starts lynching people for no reason, the village are the baddies. 

[Dexter the Dragoon]

These are who I think are the Wolves..

Amy the Singer
Countess Markievicz - Wolf
Dexter the Dragoon
Jacob the Tailor - Wolf
Lilly the Millennial
Moe the Innkeeper
Raymond the Shoemaker - Wolf
Vincent the Artist - Wolf
Zeena Warrior Princess

[Jacob the Tailor]

If we still have a gun I'd risk it and shoot Vincent.. their post progression is astounding for a newbie, so either they have picked everything up already. Or they are getting help structuring posts.

Are we playing this game?

Im second guessing myself a lot. I'll read over posters again later

[Amy the Singer]

These are who I think are the Wolves..

Amy the Singer
Countess Markievicz - Wolf
Dexter the Dragoon
Jacob the Tailor - Wolf
Lilly the Millennial
Moe the Innkeeper
Raymond the Shoemaker - Wolf
Vincent the Artist - Wolf
Zeena Warrior Princess

Interesting. Very close to my list but I have a nagging feeling around you and that roleblock.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Ray and CM from the wagonomics point of view, coupled with my view on their posts, especially CM who has continued where they left off yesterday.

Vincent I think could have been randed a wolf, And I do think they are getting their hand held a little bit with their posts, especially today.

As for Jacob.... Aul Jake sprang into action today didn't they, straight after munch and Jafar killing.. they came out from behind their curtains thinking that they have it in the bag so they can be open and not worry too much about drawing attention

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Just catching up on my lunchbreak.

I'm not a wolf but I know you have to ask.

Sorry I can't contributed more but I'm still getting my head around the game. I dont understand how more are killed today, I thought that only happened at night.

I'll make an effort this evening to read through the posts and try and figure it out.

[Amy the Singer]

Just catching up on my lunchbreak.

I'm not a wolf but I know you have to ask.

Sorry I can't contributed more but I'm still getting my head around the game. I dont understand how more are killed today, I thought that only happened at night.

I'll make an effort this evening to read through the posts and try and figure it out.

10am announcement was the wolves kill.

Then Jafar wolf took out Scar SK by fireballing McDonald. 

If we lynch wrong tonight, village loses.

[Amy the Singer]

These are who I think are the Wolves..

Amy the Singer
Countess Markievicz - Wolf
Dexter the Dragoon
Jacob the Tailor - Wolf
Lilly the Millennial
Moe the Innkeeper
Raymond the Shoemaker - Wolf
Vincent the Artist - Wolf
Zeena Warrior Princess

Interesting. Very close to my list but I have a nagging feeling around you and that roleblock.

Meant vote block here.

[Necro]

Mod Announcement: Unfortunately in the process of dealing with the various rooms on discord, some information was mistakenly revealed to the wrong person by myself. After having discussed it fully with the player, who is completely faultless in this I may add, I am left with no option but to modkill the player in question to protect the integrity of the game.

This decision does not come lightly and has not been an easy one to make, and I apologise profusely to both the player affected by this decision and indeed all of the other players but it is the fairest way to do things.

Thanks to the player in particular for their complete understanding in this matter.

@Moe the Innkeeper has been unfortunately modkilled.

They were - Cruella De Vil - Wolf Cruel Mistress

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Interesting. Very close to my list but I have a nagging feeling around you and that roleblock.

Meant vote block here.

I gotcha tbh and in this moment, on this day, become the man you were born to be. You have it within yourself to write your own legend. Let it be to death, or Victory.

[Jacob the Tailor]

Mod Announcement: Unfortunately in the process of dealing with the various rooms on discord, some information was mistakenly revealed to the wrong person by myself. After having discussed it fully with the player, who is completely faultless in this I may add, I am left with no option but to modkill the player in question to protect the integrity of the game.

This decision does not come lightly and has not been an easy one to make, and I apologise profusely to both the player affected by this decision and indeed all of the other players but it is the fairest way to do things.

Thanks to the player in particular for their complete understanding in this matter.

@Moe the Innkeeper has been unfortunately modkilled.

They were - Cruella De Vil - Wolf Cruel Mistress

 Sad to see this happen but obviously great for village. This is now 5v3 and let's look back over Mors posts

[Jacob the Tailor]

Can you explain this? A flavour munch is a standard mechanic used to allow all players have some game time.

@Gordon the Cook, why did you ask what a flavour munch is? Have you not played a Boards game before?

Had a read back on Countess. There's a lot of short posts that don't really add much and no reads list. They didn't seem to remember the Mc veto on shooting Jacob, they also left Dexter out of the Oprah votes when giving percentage chances of finding a wolf.

They have posted the excel sheets, stressed the need to block vote today, pointed out that Hercules isn't as powerful without a power role to protect as he dies if successful, and the fact that if we lynch Gaston the last voter dies with them.

Keen on Raymond for wolf and asked him if one of his teammates was ballsy enough to post the veto. We know Mc was the sk though at this stage though.

I couldn't say I'm convinced Countess is a wolf, but I'm not convinced they're village either. I really don't understand the logic behind the quoted post, a flavour munch doesn't give us a reason for lynch, and lynching without a flavour munch wouldn't make 'the village the bad guys'. Flavour is flavour and game dynamics are just game dynamics. 

Going to look at Raymond next.

This post clears Countess?

[Amy the Singer]

Ah that's shite for @Moe the Innkeeper and the wolves. I still want you all dead obviously, but it's unfortunate. Poor @Necro too. Sympathy all round and fair play to Moe for being a good sport.