The Rookie Werewolf - Game Thread

[Moe the Innkeeper]

I'd stun Magda, not shoot her just yet. Anyone wanting to shoot so strongly this early is a loose cannon. It would be a ballsy wolf move so I'd lean not wolf and probably is village. Just needs to give her head a wobble.

I'd protect myself. A few good leans on people, but not enough to go protecting them just yet.

I'd peek Benj. I liked the post calling out people early but it's also a good wolf plot to call out people with not much to go on. So scratch that itch to see.

1 problem I have with this is, you're meant to give a shoot choice to someone you think is a wolf, not a stun choice to someone who you think is a villager

[Magda the Maid]

Corrupt?

The "wild card" image? Seems a bit on the nose but could be a good shout.

it's a reference to it's always sunny in Philadelphia where every team has a wild card or a loose cannon, ladies and gents I am your loose cannon. Pew Pew. 

I've also made references to WWE, Impact Wrestling and The Simpsons not for a challenge but for my own enjoyment, kudos to the ones who spotted any of them.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

I'd stun Magda, not shoot her just yet. Anyone wanting to shoot so strongly this early is a loose cannon. It would be a ballsy wolf move so I'd lean not wolf and probably is village. Just needs to give her head a wobble.

I'd protect myself. A few good leans on people, but not enough to go protecting them just yet.

I'd peek Benj. I liked the post calling out people early but it's also a good wolf plot to call out people with not much to go on. So scratch that itch to see.

1 problem I have with this is, you're meant to give a shoot choice to someone you think is a wolf, not a stun choice to someone who you think is a villager

This is true but I'd add, not much has stuck out to me bar this erratic behaviour to warrant shooting them. I'll update later or when I get a chance to re read.
Suppose I could just say I'd shoot you

[Moe the Innkeeper]

1 problem I have with this is, you're meant to give a shoot choice to someone you think is a wolf, not a stun choice to someone who you think is a villager

This is true but I'd add, not much has stuck out to me bar this erratic behaviour to warrant shooting them. I'll update later or when I get a chance to re read.
Suppose I could just say I'd shoot you

It does seem to be the cool thing to suggest at the moment!

Who you would shoot is an info point. Info points are good

[Dexter the Dragoon]

This is true but I'd add, not much has stuck out to me bar this erratic behaviour to warrant shooting them. I'll update later or when I get a chance to re read.
Suppose I could just say I'd shoot you

It does seem to be the cool thing to suggest at the moment!

Who you would shoot is an info point. Info points are good

Info points are good. Posting for the sake of posting is not.

[Countess Markievicz]

Protect myself, peek Kevin, track Mick. Shoot no one, too early to be that suspicious of someone.

[Moe the Innkeeper]

It does seem to be the cool thing to suggest at the moment!

Who you would shoot is an info point. Info points are good

Info points are good. Posting for the sake of posting is not.

Who is posting for the sake of posting?

Had a quick scan of your own posts there.. Asking benji for their reads, few posts on new players & that some have played Traitors before so not off the hook, asking Magda who they would shoot & then giving your own list, not adding who you would shoot, and now a few posts with me

Is that posting for the sake of posting?

[Friar Tuck]

Wow … that’s impressive Benjy.
My only hmmm (I wouldn’t go so far as an ick) was Ina posting full on and then crickets yesterday.

Ina had one post when you posted this Amy, how was that posting full on?

[Amy the Singer]

Wow … that’s impressive Benjy.
My only hmmm (I wouldn’t go so far as an ick) was Ina posting full on and then crickets yesterday.

Ina had one post when you posted this Amy, how was that posting full on?

Yeh I could have been clearer - I meant the content was pretty full on. Full of lots of stuff that could be coded messages … not just the usual “hello”. That was the one and only post and then nothing. Others who’ve gotten straight into character were posting a lot and Ina wasn’t is all.

[Friar Tuck]

Rolled villagers are still villagers, so part of the team. They are independent of one another, they don't know who the other rolled villagers are.

At the moment the only actions non rolled villagers can do is vote. There may be prizes which grant temporary powers or abilities.

NRVs are very valuable. We are expendable so we can push and prod as much as we like to get info from others.

Just to say the copy and paste thing was a genuine glitch, there are no actions over the weekend, just posting.

Copy and paste is probably nothing. Its the paragraph above about NRVs on the back of the traitor talk that stands out to me. This post isnt helpful other than to wolves

Have you read the post Countess quoted? The response makes sense if you do.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Info points are good. Posting for the sake of posting is not.

Who is posting for the sake of posting?

Had a quick scan of your own posts there.. Asking benji for their reads, few posts on new players & that some have played Traitors before so not off the hook, asking Magda who they would shoot & then giving your own list, not adding who you would shoot, and now a few posts with me

Is that posting for the sake of posting?

I'll let you decide if I'm posting for the sake of it. Thanks for summarising my posts to date. Actually if you did that for everyone it would be helpful.

What do you make of Dora?

[Robin the Jester]

Atfternoon all.

Dexter asked who the newbies were. I've not played werewolf, but I've played social deduction things offline (at a far smaller, simpler scale), and enjoy Traitors and Survivor. So know the gist but will have some questions along the way.

One thing I'd say is Dexter was asking this with the friendly context of saying newbies shouldn't be targeted tonight. I'd rather not be ignored just cause I've not played before, right? If people want to vote for me, whatevers. I'd rather people didn't vote for me cause they think I'm good, not cause i'm new. It feels a dodgy idea to just write us off as potential targets though, cause newbies could be wolves, right?

Also, Robin was doing a read through, but both missed the posts before my "accusations" post leading up to it (people asking me to start the accusations), and also missed my post about starting a support group for newbies. The former had a few posts leading up to it too, so I'm curious how Robin missed them in their read through. Kind of feels like they did a very quick skim but not a genuine "read every post" readthrough.

you'll have to expand on that please

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

I'd probably shoot in the low posters (Wesley or Lieutenant Grey), peek a fairly active poster (without checking exact post counts, Moe or Benji I think), protect myself and I don't think we should say who we'd track as it may give the wolves unnecessary info (e.g. if Player A gets mentioned a lot for tracking, they're less likely to put in the munch order tonight)

[Friar Tuck]

Right my head is officially melted. Aside from just trying to get over the bias of the names from the Traitors game this all seems much more complicated. Initial vibe check... Friar Tuck seems genuinely helpful. Benji's flashy post seems a bit OTT... TBH if it comes out that there was some sort of kill in plain sight or task, I'll be picking over that lengthy post. The Countess copy and paste error feels a bit suss but could very well be genuine. Thanks also to Moe and Countess for helping with my questions. One other question, for the non-roled villagers... is the only thing we have to do is vote each night on who to banish? The roled villagers are essentially working independently?

Tagging is borked now, I read Countess's post as a reply to this Mick, she didnt quote it though.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

I have a kids' football match ~ an hour away so I won't be around much this evening but it should be over by 8 and I'll catch up here on the bus journey home in time to vote.

[Robin the Jester]

How accurate has the post count ever been as a metric? I assume people will post as much or as little as they would regardless of their role. Some people prefer (or can't help) posting loads. Some prefer to be quiet and watch and wait to contribute. Historically, is there anything backing a link between high/low post counts and being a wolf. Because this is my second game and it's same conversation... "there's a traitor/wolf in the low posts, there's one in the high posts and one in the middle". That reads like a random distibution of where we think wolves are based on post counts.

i dont know. i think you're right though, that most people will post as often/little as they normally do regardless of role.

maybe SK is the only role that people may change posting frequency

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Who is posting for the sake of posting?

Had a quick scan of your own posts there.. Asking benji for their reads, few posts on new players & that some have played Traitors before so not off the hook, asking Magda who they would shoot & then giving your own list, not adding who you would shoot, and now a few posts with me

Is that posting for the sake of posting?

I'll let you decide if I'm posting for the sake of it. Thanks for summarising my posts to date. Actually if you did that for everyone it would be helpful.

What do you make of Dora?

I definietly won't be able to do it for everyone, so don't expect that   I have more time during the day to read back, not as much in the evening.. I read yours back cause you mentioned posting for the sake of posting

If you've read my own posts to date you'd see that I disagreed with them on their take on low posters. They've also called out players for answering for others, which in my experience is generally nothing, don't think I've ever caught a wolf that way or seen one caught that way.

They asked about semi auto priest only revealing some info on on death of Monica, which I don't think will happen.. Mixed up me and Mick which is fair enough but again I'm not sure the actual point they were making had any substance, then threw a bit of shade Magda's way. Oh and something about Boston Creams with Countess

All in all not a great look really I suppose

If you want to give any reads on players yourself, fire away

[Friar Tuck]

1st early thought. prob best for monica to die later than other wolves cos she: will be able to learn the identification of any of the fallen and will probably withhold that information from the rest until we can take her down.

But that info will be revealed when she dies? There's no point talking about the order we kill wolves in when we don't know who they are either.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

I'll let you decide if I'm posting for the sake of it. Thanks for summarising my posts to date. Actually if you did that for everyone it would be helpful.

What do you make of Dora?

I definietly won't be able to do it for everyone, so don't expect that   I have more time during the day to read back, not as much in the evening.. I read yours back cause you mentioned posting for the sake of posting

If you've read my own posts to date you'd see that I disagreed with them on their take on low posters. They've also called out players for answering for others, which in my experience is generally nothing, don't think I've ever caught a wolf that way or seen one caught that way.

They asked about semi auto priest only revealing some info on on death of Monica, which I don't think will happen.. Mixed up me and Mick which is fair enough but again I'm not sure the actual point they were making had any substance, then threw a bit of shade Magda's way. Oh and something about Boston Creams with Countess

All in all not a great look really I suppose

If you want to give any reads on players yourself, fire away

That's some good detective work, you're wasted as an innkeeper.

I'm up on the horse at the moment, so I'll get back with some reads when I'm back the desk.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

So Benji is starting with the accusations, someone has to, I suppose.

I'm just disappointed that no one has streaked yet. 😂

Welcome to Benjis Nightly* Lists of Likes and Worries.
(*non-commital)

(took me ages to figure out how to embed the gif)

Today, Benji liked….people working through the rules and roles and tryin to figure out what info we can glean from them. Marki Mark and Moe are the two I have as most involved in that legwork.

Today, Benji disliked…one post players whose posts made me feel icky. Micks post that felt like a repost of info others had already outlined and also was a bit negative straight off the bat as an example. Gave me a weird vibe. I think there should be positivity going into the game.

Today, Benji also disliked…Jacob’s sole post of the day being about how the wolfs are looking for the traitor who could be a recruit. One post and it being about a mechanic where the wolves need to find someone. Gives me the ick.

Not much else happening today. Hopefully Monday sees some stuff to work with before we have to vote someone out.

friar, you posted this before benjamin posted his thoughts. 

did you somehow know in advance he was going to post this?

@Robin This, as the main example. Trying to ask if Friar knew my accusations were coming, when Friar's posts were clearly referring to my post right before it asking who was starting the accusations.


The bit about newbies. Dexter asks who the new players were, and you respond Amy and Kev. It's less of an issue cause my posts were less blunt so I can get why it was missed in a speed read.

But the bit about asking Friar if he knew in advance about my post, you wouldn't have had to ask if you'd read the other posts.

A quick recap of that coversation was...

Me: Ok, we’ve got the numbers
Shall we start throwing some accusations?

Dexter: What accusations do you want to throw first Benj?

Moe: Cmon Ben, dont leave us hanging...

Friar: So Benji is starting with the accusations, someone has to, I suppose.


And then my post.

But in your post I quoted, you've jumped in at Friar's posts, skipping the context to try and accuse Friar of having insider info of the accusations starting?

Just feels someone doing a proper read would have been able to get that context of how Friar knew super easily.

[Magda the Maid]

My final reads for now, both Friar and Moe are playing helpful villager role posting alot trying to get reads going etc, which makes me believe one is a villager and one is a wolf.

Friar's posts seem to be more informative so I'm leaning good for Friar and bad for Moe. That's all I have for today. I'm a little suss of Ina May but not enough posts from them to explore that any further for now.

Should be back on after 8pm.

[Robin the Jester]

friar, you posted this before benjamin posted his thoughts. 

did you somehow know in advance he was going to post this?

@Robin This, as the main example. Trying to ask if Friar knew my accusations were coming, when Friar's posts were clearly referring to my post right before it asking who was starting the accusations.


The bit about newbies. Dexter asks who the new players were, and you respond Amy and Kev. It's less of an issue cause my posts were less blunt so I can get why it was missed in a speed read.

But the bit about asking Friar if he knew in advance about my post, you wouldn't have had to ask if you'd read the other posts.

A quick recap of that coversation was...

Me: Ok, we’ve got the numbers
Shall we start throwing some accusations?

Dexter: What accusations do you want to throw first Benj?

Moe: Cmon Ben, dont leave us hanging...

Friar: So Benji is starting with the accusations, someone has to, I suppose.


And then my post.

But in your post I quoted, you've jumped in at Friar's posts, skipping the context to try and accuse Friar of having insider info of the accusations starting?

Just feels someone doing a proper read would have been able to get that context of how Friar knew super easily.

what accusations did you make prior to benji saying?:


So Benji is starting with the accusations, someone has to, I suppose.

I'm just disappointed that no one has streaked yet. 😂

[Robin the Jester]

* prior to friar saying

So Benji is starting with the accusations, someone has to, I suppose.

I'm just disappointed that no one has streaked yet. 😂

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Can you not see the context though? I had said we should start throwing accusations, Dexter and Moe encourage me to start the ball rolling, and Friar's post is clearly continuing on that line of pushing me.

[Friar Tuck]

Ina had one post when you posted this Amy, how was that posting full on?

Yeh I could have been clearer - I meant the content was pretty full on. Full of lots of stuff that could be coded messages … not just the usual “hello”. That was the one and only post and then nothing. Others who’ve gotten straight into character were posting a lot and Ina wasn’t is all.

I just read it as leaning into the Midwife character, what do you think could be coded messages?

[Friar Tuck]

I'd probably shoot in the low posters (Wesley or Lieutenant Grey), peek a fairly active poster (without checking exact post counts, Moe or Benji I think), protect myself and I don't think we should say who we'd track as it may give the wolves unnecessary info (e.g. if Player A gets mentioned a lot for tracking, they're less likely to put in the munch order tonight)

You'd shoot the games mods? 

[Robin the Jester]

Can you not see the context though? I had said we should start throwing accusations, Dexter and Moe encourage me to start the ball rolling, and Friar's post is clearly continuing on that line of pushing me.

the talk of context - is that an admission that you made no accusations prior to friar's post?

[Friar Tuck]

Right, thoughts so far.

Countess and Benji's posts about their names stood out to me. Benji also had the flashing lights minion gif. Benji also defended countess and pointed out the copy and paste couldn't be a role action, quoted the OP to back this up and said the mod note saying the game had started confirmed this. I'd peek and track here.

I'm not sure what Amy means by coded messages in Ina's first post and she had suggested Ina was posted loads and then stopped even though Ina only had one post at the time. I'm waiting for Amy's reply before forming an opinion.

William doesn't seem to like very many players as he doesn't like Jacob, Dora, Edward, Magda, Ina and Gordon. Not only that, he's also suspicios of Boris, Vincent and Robin and would like to peek Moe or me.

I'd shoot William as he's so unhappy.

I'd protect myself.

[Friar Tuck]

20 players

3 wolves, with a potential conversion in the traitor to bring it to 4.

1 SK

16 v 3 v 1 or 15 v 4 v 1

Ok, we’ve got the numbers
Shall we start throwing some accusations?

Read from here @Robin the Jester, you posted after this so you must have seen the posts that followed. You'll see where my post came from then.

[Lieutenant Grey]

7-Lincoln-200 to 7-Adam-19, Attempted kidnapping in your vicinity in progress.

7-Adam-19 show responding

……
…
.
7-Adam-19 to 7-Lincoln-200. Arrived just on time, bit of a fist fight, perp has fled the scene, No ID, victim is fine.

[Friar Tuck]

Kidnapping? 😂

[Friar Tuck]

I presume the kidnapping was the SK?

"Word on the streets is that she has built a new bunker where she will torture her victims thoughout the night."

So there should only be one death tomorrow morning, if it was a wolf role block they know who the SK is, could have been a village protect either.

[Countess Markievicz]

I presume the kidnapping was the SK?

"Word on the streets is that she has built a new bunker where she will torture her victims thoughout the night."

So there should only be one death tomorrow morning, if it was a wolf role block they know who the SK is, could have been a village protect either.

But surely that indicates a night action for the serial killer, They can't kidnap the victims and then kill later as then that person would be unable to vote. Don't see how the attempted kidnap could be a serial killer.

[Lieutenant Grey]

MOD: VOTING CLOSES AT 9.30

[Friar Tuck]

I presume the kidnapping was the SK?

"Word on the streets is that she has built a new bunker where she will torture her victims thoughout the night."

So there should only be one death tomorrow morning, if it was a wolf role block they know who the SK is, could have been a village protect either.

But surely that indicates a night action for the serial killer, They can't kidnap the victims and then kill later as then that person would be unable to vote. Don't see how the attempted kidnap could be a serial killer.

She has a bunker where she will.torture her victim throughout the night?

Who else could be kidnapping people?

[Amy the Singer]

Yeh I could have been clearer - I meant the content was pretty full on. Full of lots of stuff that could be coded messages … not just the usual “hello”. That was the one and only post and then nothing. Others who’ve gotten straight into character were posting a lot and Ina wasn’t is all.

I just read it as leaning into the Midwife character, what do you think could be coded messages?

Yeh I got that - it was the contrast of the very strong lean in followed by crickets that I found odd.

[William the Grave Robber]

@Friar Tuck I mean you would put me out of my misery 😂

I've cast aspersions at a lot of people to be fair and will declare my actual vote later. Still think we should peak Friar or Moe.

[Moe the Innkeeper]

But surely that indicates a night action for the serial killer, They can't kidnap the victims and then kill later as then that person would be unable to vote. Don't see how the attempted kidnap could be a serial killer.

She has a bunker where she will.torture her victim throughout the night?

Who else could be kidnapping people?

If that's the case the sk kidnaps the person during the day and tortures at night but it failed today?

Only other thing I can think of is this is the criminals trying to kidnap the traitor but I dunno if that makes sense from the flavour

[Friar Tuck]

I just read it as leaning into the Midwife character, what do you think could be coded messages?

Yeh I got that - it was the contrast of the very strong lean in followed by crickets that I found odd.

It was an opening post on a sunny day, I don't get what you mean by a strong lean in.

[Edward the Barber]

Doesn’t sound plausible that an SK could kidnap a player during the day and hold them from now until the morning and what then…. Kill them?

What about the kidnapped players vote at lynch?

Not sure I buy it.