The Traitors- Boards/FOG Edition

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

My post that I 100% back Betty, hours after "seeing" and announcing here that she is a faithful, is making you suss? What else would she be but a 100% lock in faithful. I saw that is a faithful.

Or is it just the general, you think I'm bluffing? That I can accept.

Yes I'm wondering are you bluffing about 'seeing' her as a faithful. I suppose for me I had myself convinced she was a tratior. I could be way off of course but I'm finding it hard to let go of that train of thought.

I hear you. There's really nothing I can say though really to convince you otherwise. I tried to be very open and quick to reveal I got the power, before I even decided what to do with it. I was again, clear and quick with what I did.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

The main Betty suspicion was threefold:
1) They took part in the game before posting
2) They had declared they had won an alignment check.
3) They tactically voted to save Zeena over Benji

Suspicion 1) They said they saw the game and rushed to play before posting. Not implausible
Suspicion 2) We know there were prizes, not sure it's suspicious to win one. I don't see anything suspect about what tehy declared.
Suspicion 3) They tactically voted to save Zeena over Benji. We now know both were faithfuls, so not sure how this is still a viable path of suspicion.

At this point she's being pushed as being suspicious because people said she was suspicious.

[Donald the Spoofer]

Laura claimed a prize today, if we go with the notion that traitors might not claim prizes to avoid putting a target on their back, we can set her aside for the moment. Obviously not a lock clear

I wouldn't agree with that. Sure in the real game the traitors love getting a sheild to 'pretend' that they are safe for night. Doesn't make sense to me that Traitor would not claim a prize.

In the real game you can easily prove you have a shield by swinging it around. You cant easily prove a peek in this game. It puts you in the spotlight. I wouldnt reveal it if I was a traitor. You are trying to help the faithfuls so more likely for a faithful to reveal this

[Ina May the Midwife]

On the "Maeve suspects", am I correct in saying that the current theories on this are:

Pat: for voting for Maeve (but really meant it to be Magda) - post at 2124 yesterday
Prada: for question Maeve a number of times (am I correctly describing this?)
Gordon: for misspelling Maeve (am I correctly describing this?)

Open to correction on whether I'm describing those last two correctly - if I am, those two seem weak enough leaving the first one as the most plausible but extremely extremely obvious. Which leaves me thinking that we've missed something - not sure what though

At this point, Pat would be top of my list but I'm open to changing that

[Ina May the Midwife]

The main Betty suspicion was threefold:
1) They took part in the game before posting
2) They had declared they had won an alignment check.
3) They tactically voted to save Zeena over Benji

Suspicion 1) They said they saw the game and rushed to play before posting. Not implausible
Suspicion 2) We know there were prizes, not sure it's suspicious to win one. I don't see anything suspect about what tehy declared.
Suspicion 3) They tactically voted to save Zeena over Benji. We now know both were faithfuls, so not sure how this is still a viable path of suspicion.

At this point she's being pushed as being suspicious because people said she was suspicious.

Never thought of it until now but the Zeena reveal definitely lifts a good bit of suspicion off Betty in my eyes

[Gordon the Cook]

The main Betty suspicion was threefold:
1) They took part in the game before posting
2) They had declared they had won an alignment check.
3) They tactically voted to save Zeena over Benji

Suspicion 1) They said they saw the game and rushed to play before posting. Not implausible
Suspicion 2) We know there were prizes, not sure it's suspicious to win one. I don't see anything suspect about what tehy declared.
Suspicion 3) They tactically voted to save Zeena over Benji. We now know both were faithfuls, so not sure how this is still a viable path of suspicion.

At this point she's being pushed as being suspicious because people said she was suspicious.

And isn't it great that she has been peeked faithful so we can dump all that shit down the toilet and move on.  
Betty is faithful. Next.....

[Gordon the Cook]

On the "Maeve suspects", am I correct in saying that the current theories on this are:

Pat: for voting for Maeve (but really meant it to be Magda) - post at 2124 yesterday
Prada: for question Maeve a number of times (am I correctly describing this?)
Gordon: for misspelling Maeve (am I correctly describing this?)

Open to correction on whether I'm describing those last two correctly - if I am, those two seem weak enough leaving the first one as the most plausible but extremely extremely obvious. Which leaves me thinking that we've missed something - not sure what though

At this point, Pat would be top of my list but I'm open to changing that

2nd one.

tag a player and then ask them 3 question. 
is how i interpreted the task from the post #220

[Friar Tuck]

Why remove Laura?

Laura claimed a prize today, if we go with the notion that traitors might not claim prizes to avoid putting a target on their back, we can set her aside for the moment. Obviously not a lock clear

Surely a prize is as useful to a traitor as to a faithful? I would have thought an opportunity to save themselves or a fellow traitor who is in the hot seat or to banish someone all depending on the prize, is too good a chance to miss?

[Boris the Fool]

Can someone explain/confirm how a peek works. From what I can see it’s a possible prize where you get to name a player and then lorcan tells you another player on the same side but not whether they’re faithfuls or traitors? So it’s up to us whether we believe the reported peak results? I’ve never seen that on the tv version.

[Friar Tuck]

On the "Maeve suspects", am I correct in saying that the current theories on this are:

Pat: for voting for Maeve (but really meant it to be Magda) - post at 2124 yesterday
Prada: for question Maeve a number of times (am I correctly describing this?)
Gordon: for misspelling Maeve (am I correctly describing this?)

Open to correction on whether I'm describing those last two correctly - if I am, those two seem weak enough leaving the first one as the most plausible but extremely extremely obvious. Which leaves me thinking that we've missed something - not sure what though

At this point, Pat would be top of my list but I'm open to changing that

That's my understanding of the theories as well Ina. They all seem somewhat flimsy though so hard to pinpoint if it is one of them. Pat voting for Maeve seems the most concrete one to go by imo

[Ina May the Midwife]

I'll be offline now until shortly after 9. Currently planning to vote pat but it's not a solid vote

[Rhoda the Spinster]

My top three:

Prada, Pat and Countess.

Pat and Prada for the Maeve suspicion. Both their defences have been weak. Trying to downplay why people had them as suspect and misinterpreting what they are saying. Examples are Prada saying that one post isn't enough for murder in plain sight, and Pat trying to claim that Lorcan's mistake was part of the game mechanic. I think on balance the Prada post seems more like a task than Pat's post, but it is intriguigng that Lorcan made the same Magda/Maeve slip up.

Countess is a super low poster and has been AWOL all day. I wasn't too impressed with them yesterday, I think it is odd they managed to wrongly call out two posters in a row for something they didn't do. Carelessness can be a sign of someone feigning wolf hunting in my view.

[Chris the Carpenter]

Yes I'm wondering are you bluffing about 'seeing' her as a faithful. I suppose for me I had myself convinced she was a tratior. I could be way off of course but I'm finding it hard to let go of that train of thought.

I hear you. There's really nothing I can say though really to convince you otherwise. I tried to be very open and quick to reveal I got the power, before I even decided what to do with it. I was again, clear and quick with what I did.

I am starting to wonder have I had tunnel vision regarding Betty and maybe I need to look elsewhere.

[Gordon the Cook]

Laura claimed a prize today, if we go with the notion that traitors might not claim prizes to avoid putting a target on their back, we can set her aside for the moment. Obviously not a lock clear

Surely a prize is as useful to a traitor as to a faithful? I would have thought an opportunity to save themselves or a fellow traitor who is in the hot seat or to banish someone all depending on the prize, is too good a chance to miss?

Why would a traitor reveal betty as innocent, which in turn makes vincent innocent?
It does not make sense for a traitor to do this.

Shove some tinfoil on your head and make some ridiculous ideas, but as soon as betty or vincent flip traitor, laura is cooked.
Why risk that.

makes more sense that laura is innocent and revealed like a good faithful should do.
 
if a traitor had of got that prize, we would not have even know there wa a peek prize in the running today.

[Gordon the Cook]

Can someone explain/confirm how a peek works. From what I can see it’s a possible prize where you get to name a player and then lorcan tells you another player on the same side but not whether they’re faithfuls or traitors? So it’s up to us whether we believe the reported peak results? I’ve never seen that on the tv version.

sorry. a peek prize. lorc asks you to name a player, then reveal to you and you alone if they are faithful or a traitor. thats it. nothing more

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Can someone explain/confirm how a peek works. From what I can see it’s a possible prize where you get to name a player and then lorcan tells you another player on the same side but not whether they’re faithfuls or traitors? So it’s up to us whether we believe the reported peak results? I’ve never seen that on the tv version.

A peek is when you get the chance to be told whether someone is good or bad. Sometimes peaks can be fooled if a bad person posesses the ability to peek good.

An alignment check is when you can pick two players and ask for their alignments to be compared. So if you are told they have the same alignment they are either both good or both bad but you don't know which. If their alignments differ then you know one is good and one is bad but not who of the pair is good or who is bad.

[Donald the Spoofer]

Laura claimed a prize today, if we go with the notion that traitors might not claim prizes to avoid putting a target on their back, we can set her aside for the moment. Obviously not a lock clear

Surely a prize is as useful to a traitor as to a faithful? I would have thought an opportunity to save themselves or a fellow traitor who is in the hot seat or to banish someone all depending on the prize, is too good a chance to miss?

I'm not saying they dont want to win prizes, I'm say they are less likely to announce they won. The main benefit for them winning is it keeps the prize away from a faithful. For example, a traitor does not need a peek, they know who everyone is.

[Prada the Seamstress]

My top three:

Prada, Pat and Countess.

Pat and Prada for the Maeve suspicion. Both their defences have been weak. Trying to downplay why people had them as suspect and misinterpreting what they are saying. Examples are Prada saying that one post isn't enough for murder in plain sight, and Pat trying to claim that Lorcan's mistake was part of the game mechanic. I think on balance the Prada post seems more like a task than Pat's post, but it is intriguigng that Lorcan made the same Magda/Maeve slip up.

Countess is a super low poster and has been AWOL all day. I wasn't too impressed with them yesterday, I think it is odd they managed to wrongly call out two posters in a row for something they didn't do. Carelessness can be a sign of someone feigning wolf hunting in my view.

I just think that one post like that is too easy to complete for a murder, and too easily identified.
We are missing something more.

Out of the 3 "suspect" posts around Maeve, I would (obviously) fall on it being Gordon.
It's a lot more subtle, and the misspelling was across more than one post.

[Friar Tuck]

Surely a prize is as useful to a traitor as to a faithful? I would have thought an opportunity to save themselves or a fellow traitor who is in the hot seat or to banish someone all depending on the prize, is too good a chance to miss?

Why would a traitor reveal betty as innocent, which in turn makes vincent innocent?
It does not make sense for a traitor to do this.

Shove some tinfoil on your head and make some ridiculous ideas, but as soon as betty or vincent flip traitor, laura is cooked.
Why risk that.

makes more sense that laura is innocent and revealed like a good faithful should do.
 
if a traitor had of got that prize, we would not have even know there wa a peek prize in the running today.

I see what youre saying but the prize youbwinnisneandom and given by lorcan, right? So a banishment or a shield would be worth keeping to yourself but a peek is maybe useless from an information standpoint- Traitors already know what everyone is - but could be used as a performative way to reinforce themselves as a faithful. Maybe too many cons in this instance as you've pointed out though Gordon, proving 2 players are faithfuls

[Rhoda the Spinster]

My top three:

Prada, Pat and Countess.

Pat and Prada for the Maeve suspicion. Both their defences have been weak. Trying to downplay why people had them as suspect and misinterpreting what they are saying. Examples are Prada saying that one post isn't enough for murder in plain sight, and Pat trying to claim that Lorcan's mistake was part of the game mechanic. I think on balance the Prada post seems more like a task than Pat's post, but it is intriguigng that Lorcan made the same Magda/Maeve slip up.

Countess is a super low poster and has been AWOL all day. I wasn't too impressed with them yesterday, I think it is odd they managed to wrongly call out two posters in a row for something they didn't do. Carelessness can be a sign of someone feigning wolf hunting in my view.

I just think that one post like that is too easy to complete for a murder, and too easily identified.
We are missing something more.

Out of the 3 "suspect" posts around Maeve, I would (obviously) fall on it being Gordon.
It's a lot more subtle, and the misspelling was across more than one post.

It's supposed to be at risk of being easily identifiable. That is the point. High risk, high reward.
Your post fits the bill on that point more than the others.

I think you killed in plain sight. Pat is also a traitor and there was Magda/Maeve discussion in the backroom, hence Lorcan got confused.

[Friar Tuck]

Why would a traitor reveal betty as innocent, which in turn makes vincent innocent?
It does not make sense for a traitor to do this.

Shove some tinfoil on your head and make some ridiculous ideas, but as soon as betty or vincent flip traitor, laura is cooked.
Why risk that.

makes more sense that laura is innocent and revealed like a good faithful should do.
 
if a traitor had of got that prize, we would not have even know there wa a peek prize in the running today.

I see what youre saying but the prize youbwinnisneandom and given by lorcan, right? So a banishment or a shield would be worth keeping to yourself but a peek is maybe useless from an information standpoint- Traitors already know what everyone is - but could be used as a performative way to reinforce themselves as a faithful. Maybe too many cons in this instance as you've pointed out though Gordon, proving 2 players are faithfuls

Sorry this was supposed to say 'the prize you win is random', should have proof read it

[Prada the Seamstress]

I just think that one post like that is too easy to complete for a murder, and too easily identified.
We are missing something more.

Out of the 3 "suspect" posts around Maeve, I would (obviously) fall on it being Gordon.
It's a lot more subtle, and the misspelling was across more than one post.

It's supposed to be at risk of being easily identifiable. That is the point. High risk, high reward.
Your post fits the bill on that point more than the others.

I think you killed in plain sight. Pat is also a traitor and there was Magda/Maeve discussion in the backroom, hence Lorcan got confused.

You can think that, but I know you are wrong about me. I don't know what else I can say.
I am trailing back through posts still though.

[Dora the Explorer]

I just don't see Laura and Betty winning prizes and being able get away with claiming a alignment and peek and goes unchallenged by any other prize won. They wouldn't be my priority right now.

Pat and prada are probably best lead and try figure out low posters.

I don't like friar the lack of posts or any help but it's so hard when they claiming new player and not able to follow thread. There's other low posters too that need to be resolved.

[Pat the Baker]

On the "Maeve suspects", am I correct in saying that the current theories on this are:

Pat: for voting for Maeve (but really meant it to be Magda) - post at 2124 yesterday
Prada: for question Maeve a number of times (am I correctly describing this?)
Gordon: for misspelling Maeve (am I correctly describing this?)

Open to correction on whether I'm describing those last two correctly - if I am, those two seem weak enough leaving the first one as the most plausible but extremely extremely obvious. Which leaves me thinking that we've missed something - not sure what though

At this point, Pat would be top of my list but I'm open to changing that

I’ve already stated the I meant my vote for Maeve! The confusion part was in relation to the second part of my post about someone copying Amy, that turned out to be Magda and not Maeve.

[Pat the Baker]

My top three:

Prada, Pat and Countess.

Pat and Prada for the Maeve suspicion. Both their defences have been weak. Trying to downplay why people had them as suspect and misinterpreting what they are saying. Examples are Prada saying that one post isn't enough for murder in plain sight, and Pat trying to claim that Lorcan's mistake was part of the game mechanic. I think on balance the Prada post seems more like a task than Pat's post, but it is intriguigng that Lorcan made the same Magda/Maeve slip up.

Countess is a super low poster and has been AWOL all day. I wasn't too impressed with them yesterday, I think it is odd they managed to wrongly call out two posters in a row for something they didn't do. Carelessness can be a sign of someone feigning wolf hunting in my view.

I never claimed Lorcans mistake was part of the game - I said the opposite!

[Chris the Carpenter]

It's really hard to figure out the Murder in play sight but at the moment I'm leaning towards Pat out of the three mentioned.

[Friar Tuck]

I just think that one post like that is too easy to complete for a murder, and too easily identified.
We are missing something more.

Out of the 3 "suspect" posts around Maeve, I would (obviously) fall on it being Gordon.
It's a lot more subtle, and the misspelling was across more than one post.

It's supposed to be at risk of being easily identifiable. That is the point. High risk, high reward.
Your post fits the bill on that point more than the others.

I think you killed in plain sight. Pat is also a traitor and there was Magda/Maeve discussion in the backroom, hence Lorcan got confused.

I think you're right about Pat being a traitor though Im still leaning towards his vote for Maeve having some meaning

[Friar Tuck]

I just don't see Laura and Betty winning prizes and being able get away with claiming a alignment and peek and goes unchallenged by any other prize won. They wouldn't be my priority right now.

Pat and prada are probably best lead and try figure out low posters.

I don't like friar the lack of posts or any help but it's so hard when they claiming new player and not able to follow thread. There's other low posters too that need to be resolved.

Trying to post a bit more today, some other players have been helpful. At least as far as new players go, I'm not the lowest poster I think that is @Countess Markievicz . I can't remember if @Lilly the Millennial is also a newbie?

[Pat the Baker]

I just don't see Laura and Betty winning prizes and being able get away with claiming a alignment and peek and goes unchallenged by any other prize won. They wouldn't be my priority right now.

Pat and prada are probably best lead and try figure out low posters.

I don't like friar the lack of posts or any help but it's so hard when they claiming new player and not able to follow thread. There's other low posters too that need to be resolved.

Trying to post a bit more today, some other players have been helpful. At least as far as new players go, I'm not the lowest poster I think that is @Countess Markievicz . I can't remember if @Lilly the Millennial is also a newbie?

At this point Lily is likely to be mod-killed if she doesn’t vote tonight as per the rules

[William the Grave Robber]

Ah mod is hardly gonna kill of the wrong player just to work a mechanic 🙄

Not saying that.
Traitors have a backroom where I'm sure they were discussing who to murder in plain sight. I am suggesting that both Magda and Maeve were up for that discussion.
Not saying you committed the murder in plain sight but I think you were part of that discussion in a back room and that you went on to confuse the two on thread yesterday.
Probable: maybe
Impossible: certainly not

Just in case you missed this Pat from earlier, care to respond. Or in case I missed your explanation, care to re share

[Pat the Baker]

Not saying that.
Traitors have a backroom where I'm sure they were discussing who to murder in plain sight. I am suggesting that both Magda and Maeve were up for that discussion.
Not saying you committed the murder in plain sight but I think you were part of that discussion in a back room and that you went on to confuse the two on thread yesterday.
Probable: maybe
Impossible: certainly not

Just in case you missed this Pat from earlier, care to respond. Or in case I missed your explanation, care to re share

I don’t know what made Lorcan get the names mixed up but it wasn’t me discussing it in a back room. We will have to wait until the game is over to see what caused his confusion. 

I will likely be banished tonight as it’s a double so then you will be able to drop the thought of lorcans mistake being relevant

[Betty the Beggar]

Just caught up. Dora, Prada and Gordon would be my top three or #FFA

[Betty the Beggar]

Just in case you missed this Pat from earlier, care to respond. Or in case I missed your explanation, care to re share

I don’t know what made Lorcan get the names mixed up but it wasn’t me discussing it in a back room. We will have to wait until the game is over to see what caused his confusion. 

I will likely be banished tonight as it’s a double so then you will be able to drop the thought of lorcans mistake being relevant

It is pretty suspicious that both you and Lorcan made the same mistake

[Dora the Explorer]

I just don't see Laura and Betty winning prizes and being able get away with claiming a alignment and peek and goes unchallenged by any other prize won. They wouldn't be my priority right now.

Pat and prada are probably best lead and try figure out low posters.

I don't like friar the lack of posts or any help but it's so hard when they claiming new player and not able to follow thread. There's other low posters too that need to be resolved.

Trying to post a bit more today, some other players have been helpful. At least as far as new players go, I'm not the lowest poster I think that is @Countess Markievicz . I can't remember if @Lilly the Millennial is also a newbie?

You keep going and it will resolve itself eventually I don't think you're gonna be a priority tonight anyway. Its just something I'm mindful of.

[lorcand1990]

Voting phase open!

[William the Grave Robber]

Pat
Ina
Prada
Friar

My vote will land in here. I just think there's at least a wolf in the 10 winners from yesterday and through process of elimination it leaves the above 4, all of which I have question marks over

[Chris the Carpenter]

Just caught up. Dora, Prada and Gordon would be my top three or #FFA

I can see why might pick Prada and Gordon but why Dora?

[William the Grave Robber]

Very interesting to see when if there is vote manipulation tonight.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Vote: Boris

[William the Grave Robber]

VOTE: Pat