The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[Ina May the Midwife]

I mean it really is unfortunate if that's what actually happened 🤣 I'm just not willing to take the risk unfortunately Eddie.

[Wendy the Wench]

First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

What do you mean, you feel she is very informed.
Can you get the posts you are talking about that makes you feel this way.
informed about what, in particular?

This one. The reads on the players. I would like her to come back and repeat the process. I feel it could tell us a lot.

As an aside: is there an easier way of finding exact posts without having to tediously scroll through all the pages? Even if I search someone's name, it only brings up the posts but not what they say, iykwim.

desktop and mobile are different, but if you are on desktop, This could help you.
in the breadcrumb (at top and bottom of the thread, click on 'werewolf games'
click on the number under replies for this thread.
click on the number beside the player you are interested in.
click column posted until you see Posted [asc]
starting from the bottom, and working you way up, middle mouse button click the post: link of each post.
this will open a new tab for each post you click. read them and close tabs when you are finished.
unlike boards, clicking links gets you to the exact right post. It's so nice for a forum to just do what it is supposed to.

hope that helps.

[Edward the Barber]

Vincent and Prada voted my last night, I was picking one of them


My power work at night, actions can take place anytime over the night, so I get the answer post munch, obviously if I'm munched the answer dies with me. It is not an unusual perk in ww


So when did Prada say I was the SK? Post lynch last night

Dodge as hell.
Powers work at night, but you usually get the results when you place it not after munch. I call bull on this.

So if I ask the mods did X have an action at 11am last night they come back and say no. If that same X put a kill in at midnight, then my power was useless?

[Magda the Maid]

Vincent and Prada voted my last night, I was picking one of them


My power work at night, actions can take place anytime over the night, so I get the answer post munch, obviously if I'm munched the answer dies with me. It is not an unusual perk in ww


So when did Prada say I was the SK? Post lynch last night

Dodge as hell.
Powers work at night, but you usually get the results when you place it not after munch. I call bull on this.

There are some roles that work like that tbf, a movement check is one of them. but i think its all makebelieve, anyone who has had one of those roles before would have known that.. and then to choose Prada who we all knew was a RV and would have "Moved" last night.. it just doesnt add up..  if it had have been anyone but Prada, it would have been more believable

[Ina May the Midwife]

Dodge as hell.
Powers work at night, but you usually get the results when you place it not after munch. I call bull on this.

There are some roles that work like that tbf, a movement check is one of them. but i think its all makebelieve, anyone who has had one of those roles before would have known that.. and then to choose Prada who we all knew was a RV and would have "Moved" last night.. it just doesnt add up..  if it had have been anyone but Prada, it would have been more believable

Ya, it's the convenience (or inconvenience for Eddie I guess) that Prada is dead and revealed as roled that makes it hard to believe.

That's not to say it couldn't have happened just that it's too much of a risk to believe tbh

[Wendy the Wench]

Sniping then.

Laura calls it out in the post I quoted above, for example.
Posts #41, #74, #96, #97, #100 etcewt

making it easier for myself and others to see what you are saying here. (added links)

[Magda the Maid]

@Edward the Barber if you are one Merry's friends with extra actions like them (The Whisperer) you may need to tell us cause we defo dont want to be lynching one of those

[William the Grave Robber]

So you think the SK gets actioned first, will get to kill before being killed.
Who do you think ed is going to kill? some random villager? I don't think they will be targeting in the 3 voters who voted wolf, so they are targeting into the POE. Maybe they decide to kill you or me, but if they are dying tonight, maybe they help us and kill into the poe. leaving you and me 1 more day.

Sk kill came after munch today

If Edward is sk, im not sure im comfortable leaving him to the wolves.  Its a player they need to get rid of but statistically theres a better chance of sk taking out a villager. If you trust the wolves to do that,  then fair enough.  I wouldn't be as confident

agreed. if SH picks at randon, higher chance at hitting villager.

if SK doesnt pick at random, i think they try to target a villager rather than a wolf.

cos 1 thing the SK cannot afford is a village core towards endgame.

[Wendy the Wench]

Sniping then.

Laura calls it out in the post I quoted above, for example.
Posts #41, #74, #96, #97, #100 etcewt

making it easier for myself and others to see what you are saying here. (added links)

okay yeah, we had some interactions on day zero.
what is the etcewt about. did you not find anymore?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I wasn't necessarily implying anything. Just that young wans will fight, and oul wans like me who are not getting any, roll our eyes at such behaviour. Am I right to see it at harmless squwaking?

[Rhoda the Spinster]

I wasn't arsed to scroll any more. I can look now you showed me how, if you want., but I think you get the idea.

[Wendy the Wench]

Post #707 is for Wendy (and Magda)

post #41 is prada

[Wendy the Wench]

I wasn't necessarily implying anything. Just that young wans will fight, and oul wans like me who are not getting any, roll our eyes at such behaviour. Am I right to see it at harmless squwaking?

Are you defending Magda? If magda flips wolf, you're going next for this defense.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

Right you are @Wendy the Wench LAura says MAgda called you out for a backrom reference. I am looking for it.

[Magda the Maid]

I wasn't necessarily implying anything. Just that young wans will fight, and oul wans like me who are not getting any, roll our eyes at such behaviour. Am I right to see it at harmless squwaking?

Are you defending Magda? If magda flips wolf, you're going next for this defense.

I can defend myslef, and i wont flip wolf

[Magda the Maid]

@Laura the Lace Mistress 's "list" is full of mistakes and inaccuracies, why are you using that to back up your own opinions @Rhoda the Spinster.

And @Wendy the Wench before you comment on me inserting myself in this. the conversation is about me so im not going to sit back and allow inaccuracies to be said.

I called Wendy out for commenting on another poster (possibly Betty) being nonsense while they themselves were posting nonsense about requesting a backroom to rant about day zero

[Wendy the Wench]

First thought based on this in the OP:
"Avoid character reveals", how does this work is a RV is up for lynch? If they can't reveal we could end up lynching them. Am I missing something here? Can they say they have a role?

Thoughts on players
Betty - a lot of fluff and character posts, also spotted something there too

Rhoda - a lot of fluff

Ina - village lean here, not afraid to get stuck in

Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out

Pat - I didn't read their post as suggesting there was only one wolf, he jad actually said 'more than one'. Very defensive when called on it or when others said he was suspicious. Later said Vernon didn't want discussion of wolf numbers, that's not true either. Not sure what to make of Pat.

Edward - nothing to go on here

Prada - village lean here

Vernon - must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here.

Frank - fluff

Magda - called out Wendy for the back room reference and Wendy for AI, later said Vernon pocketed Wendy. Village lean here.

Wendy - made a big deal of Pat's post when he clearly said likely more than one wolf. Lot of reaction testing, FFAed Betty, Prada and Magda. #57 said Betty is a provable load but didn't really explain it when asked by Prada, Betty and Vernon, I still don't understand the "making up a narrative" bit. AI no sense. Called Magda a WOLF!!!! Asked Benjamin to explain RVS and pocketing in their own words - don't see the point of this. Wolf lean here.

William - more fluff, spreadsheets, suss of Pat.

Mick - couple of posts today, spotted autopriest only being mentioned for lynch, asked Wendy why she expected flips for flavour kills this morning.

16 players, so agree on 3/4 wolves.

Right you are @Wendy the Wench LAura says MAgda called you out for a backrom reference. I am looking for it.

this was in relation to my 2nd post asking for a backroom so i could complain there about calling the phase day zero.
It would be something that a wolf would pick up and and try to make something out of.
Does that make Laura look better or worse? well, that would depend on magda's allignment.
giving magda a village lean for that looks suss alright.

[Wendy the Wench]

@Laura the Lace Mistress 's "list" is full of mistakes and inaccuracies, why are you using that to back up your own opinions @Rhoda the Spinster.

And @Wendy the Wench before you comment on me inserting myself in this. the conversation is about me so im not going to sit back and allow inaccuracies to be said.

I called Wendy out for commenting on another poster (possibly Betty) being nonsense while they themselves were posting nonsense about requesting a backroom to rant about day zero

I have zero complaints about you inserting anything. work away.

[Pat the Baker]

I wasn't necessarily implying anything. Just that young wans will fight, and oul wans like me who are not getting any, roll our eyes at such behaviour. Am I right to see it at harmless squwaking?

Are you defending Magda? If magda flips wolf, you're going next for this defense.

What happens if I defend magda then?

Im not atm, just wondering. You seem to have the ability to decide who goes and in what order

[Rhoda the Spinster]

@Laura the Lace Mistress 's "list" is full of mistakes and inaccuracies, why are you using that to back up your own opinions @Rhoda the Spinster.

And @Wendy the Wench before you comment on me inserting myself in this. the conversation is about me so im not going to sit back and allow inaccuracies to be said.

I called Wendy out for commenting on another poster (possibly Betty) being nonsense while they themselves were posting nonsense about requesting a backroom to rant about day zero

That is why I want her (Laura) to update it.

[Wendy the Wench]

Are you defending Magda? If magda flips wolf, you're going next for this defense.

What happens if I defend magda then?

Im not atm, just wondering. You seem to have the ability to decide who goes and in what order

Do you want the last word of who goes and in what order. I'll be sure to ask you for your last words so.

[Magda the Maid]

@Laura the Lace Mistress 's "list" is full of mistakes and inaccuracies, why are you using that to back up your own opinions @Rhoda the Spinster.

And @Wendy the Wench  before you comment on me inserting myself in this. the conversation is about me so im not going to sit back and allow inaccuracies to be said.

I called Wendy out for commenting on another poster (possibly Betty) being nonsense while they themselves were posting nonsense about requesting a backroom to rant about day zero

I have zero complaints about you inserting anything. work away.

[Pat the Baker]

What happens if I defend magda then?

Im not atm, just wondering. You seem to have the ability to decide who goes and in what order

Do you want the last word of who goes and in what order. I'll be sure to ask you for your last words so.

That would be a village decision

[Pat the Baker]

Chucking a placeholder on Edward

@Edward the Barber was your power a one and done, or each night?

[Magda the Maid]

Chucking a placeholder on Edward

@Edward the Barber was your power a one and done, or each night?

I would like him to answer this first before i place my vote anywhere anyways

@Edward the Barber if you are one Merry's friends with extra actions like them (The Whisperer) you may need to tell us cause we defo dont want to be lynching one of those

I thought he may have seen it at the time, but ive no problem waiting

[Ina May the Midwife]

My own thoughts on the remaining players (have excluded myself obviously lol)

High priority suspicions:

Edward - Prada's post stating he is the SK and for us not to ignore it, his subsequent claim. It's all quite inconvenient for Edward but it would be foolish to ignore the dead Investigators post.

Rhoda - Voting with Betty, neither self pressing. Red flags here in terms of potential W/W pairing. General posting is a bit scattered, could be a tactic, could be just how they play.


Mid tier priority

Magda - Becomes high priority if Rhoda is a villager (or the SK) based on vote timing. General posting has been ok but vote highly suspicious

Pat, Laura - Again these get upgraded if Rhoda is a villager (or SK). Likely one wolf at least in the three voting Rhoda in that scenario. Laura's readslist discussed at length yesterday. Pat drew a bit of heat over #onewolfgate on Sunday and Monday but posts in general have been fairly fine.


Lower tier, not priority (yet)

Vernon - Energy since the Betty lynch has completely dipped. Not as much enthusiasm or posting in general. Voted Pat.

William, Benjamin, Mick - Single voters last night. Benji arguably has the better thread presence of the three here.

Frank - Separating out Frank as there's a lot of villagery posts I like. Also a single voter but encouraged Maeve (along with Prada and Vincent) to not vote themselves. Not sure wolves would do this, though SK might. Fairly consistent with posting. Had a back and forth with Laura though the vote to Mick as opposed to their top target makes me wonder ever so slightly. Happy enough to place them here though.

Low priority

Vincent - voted Ed with Prada. Encouraged Maeve not to waste her vote. Villagery look anyways but given the outcome (Betty the wolf getting lynched) it gets extra marks.

Wendy - Vote switch killed a wolf last night. Wolves munching into Betty wagon indicates no wolves. Possible SK still, would upgrade if Edward does not flip as SK given the argument not to kill him, could be perceived as giving herself some extra cover given Prada's post


So if I was to rank all players from who I suspect most to who I suspect the least it would look like this

Edward
Rhoda
Magda
Laura
Pat
Vernon
Mick
William
Benjamin
Frank
Vincent
Wendy

[Edward the Barber]

Chucking a placeholder on Edward

@Edward the Barber was your power a one and done, or each night?

How can I answer this. One and done is not much use to the village and each night gets me killed by the wolves or SK if I'm not lynched.

I'm screwed either way

[Edward the Barber]

@Edward the Barber if you are one Merry's friends with extra actions like them (The Whisperer) you may need to tell us cause we defo dont want to be lynching one of those

sorry missed this, I had to check what this means, no I'm not

[Frank the Tank]

Took some time away there to reflect.

Question: what would Gollum's alignment be?

[Frank the Tank]

Chucking a placeholder on Edward

@Edward the Barber was your power a one and done, or each night?

How can I answer this. One and done is not much use to the village and each night gets me killed by the wolves or SK if I'm not lynched.

I'm screwed either way

You are of use to the village even with a once and done. Because the fellowship is more powerful with numbers.

[Mick the Drunk]

Took some time away there to reflect.

Question: what would Gollum's alignment be?

I would assume evil and if the person only has an alignment perk then they would have to figure out that meant SK / wolf

[Ina May the Midwife]

Took some time away there to reflect.

Question: what would Gollum's alignment be?

Alignment would be evil, unless Gollum was like an alpha wolf and just showed as good

Generally, with alignment it's just good or bad. Good - village (or a false peek). Bad - Wolf or SK.

With role you'd get told the target's role. So Wolf, Hobbit, SK, etc etc

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Took some time away there to reflect.

Question: what would Gollum's alignment be?

To himself? Or am I misunderstanding the question?

@Ina May the Midwife I agree with you on Edward, MAgda, Laura. THink you need to throw Wendy in the mix there. I feel like there is tag teaming going on and Pat and I is getting caught up in the cross fire.
Interesting read on Frank but I would need more info. Were they just stopping MAeve from oscaring?

[Magda the Maid]

Took some time away there to reflect.

Question: what would Gollum's alignment be?

Alignment would be evil, unless Gollum was like an alpha wolf and just showed as good

Generally, with alignment it's just good or bad. Good - village (or a false peek). Bad - Wolf or SK.

With role you'd get told the target's role. So Wolf, Hobbit, SK, etc etc

This is why I don't understand how he could know Eddie was the SK, and believe he actually peaked Rhoda

[Ina May the Midwife]

Alignment would be evil, unless Gollum was like an alpha wolf and just showed as good

Generally, with alignment it's just good or bad. Good - village (or a false peek). Bad - Wolf or SK.

With role you'd get told the target's role. So Wolf, Hobbit, SK, etc etc

This is why I don't understand how he could know Eddie was the SK, and believe he actually peaked Rhoda

But we don't know what the Investigator role does.

It's a fairly big call as an investigative role to call out a player as a specific role and leave a 'please read me when I'm dead' calling card on it if you haven't peeked them

[Pat the Baker]

My vote will more than likely be between those two anyway, Edward or rhoda

Would like to hear more from Laura too

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Who is He? Unless you dont believe Edward to be the SK?

[Magda the Maid]

This is why I don't understand how he could know Eddie was the SK, and believe he actually peaked Rhoda

But we don't know what the Investigator role does.

It's a fairly big call as an investigative role to call out a player as a specific role and leave a 'please read me when I'm dead' calling card on it if you haven't peeked them

Yeah, I just have the alignment post in my head, Prada specifically selects your post with alignment in it and answers, basically saying they would check the alignment.

Are you the SK? 😂

[Mick the Drunk]

Took some time away there to reflect.

Question: what would Gollum's alignment be?

To himself? Or am I misunderstanding the question?

@Ina May the Midwife I agree with you on Edward, MAgda, Laura. THink you need to throw Wendy in the mix there. I feel like there is tag teaming going on and Pat and I is getting caught up in the cross fire.
Interesting read on Frank but I would need more info. Were they just stopping MAeve from oscaring?

If Wendy was a wolf they why would they have been last vote on Betty last night? The only reason a wolf goes last vote on another wolf is to save a more powerful wolf

[Magda the Maid]

Who is He? Unless you dont believe Edward to be the SK?

I'm open to all possibilities, like Edwards claim is probably bullshit, but it's not being countered by anyone who had similar abilities or so.. so IF we were to take that as true, we need to look at other possibilities, and that leads to Rhoda from Prada's posts .

(The he was a typo, referring to Prada)