Traitors Werewolf - Game Thread

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Kinda like how you planned not to do the task yesterday! Ok ok I'll drop it now (just dropping it, not forgetting it)

What do you think about Dora and Friar?

I only did the task because lilly refused Its also what gave me such a strog village read on her

I think it's Dora but you think it me so there is a chance the best thing for the village is to flip me as I've caused confusion

I do think it's you but now we know (as long as countess is telling the truth) it's one of you friar or dora

I didn't see anything in particular about Dora that made me think they were a wolf but definitely need to hear more from them. Friar mentioned me yesterday I think at the round table but got info wrong and Lily corrected them. I'll see if I can find the post

[Edward the Barber]

There come a time, when good man must wear mask.

I only did the task because lilly refused Its also what gave me such a strog village read on her

I think it's Dora but you think it me so there is a chance the best thing for the village is to flip me as I've caused confusion

I do think it's you but now we know (as long as countess is telling the truth) it's one of you friar or dora

I didn't see anything in particular about Dora that made me think they were a wolf but definitely need to hear more from them. Friar mentioned me yesterday I think at the round table but got info wrong and Lily corrected them. I'll see if I can find the post

your wolf radar is backwards the wolves are the ones that quiet and carefulthe villagers go ariounbt with mad theories and accusations

flip me with structure and then go after dora - wetland zeena - gorden unless the structure says otherwise
no team 1 need to win topday to shake things up
can we discuss the clues some are the words but some are the concept is that what others are seeing?

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Well I can't quote the post cause the other thread is locked but post 131 Friar said that Lily got all the task answers yesterday & I questioned them. That was wrong cause it was Edward I was talking to about the answers, Liliy didn't do them. That's either a lazy wolf not following the thread or else just mixing up of names?

Only other thing I had on them was that they were very quiet yesterday but came straight in with a read list. Dora was pretty quiet yesterday too though

[Edward the Barber]

Ok unless I'm needed to answer a question that my flip tonight will not clarify I'm off to play in the snow

I'm a villager
So  Dora and or afriar are wolves unless constance is lying
This can easily be confirmed by my flip at this point I'd suggest Dora is more likely

We should structure my flip to see if more info can be gleaned

No rush for an answer here, so can wait until after the snow, Can you explain to me why you didn't vote william yesterday?

You seemed to me very against voting william in the end there, debating whether its better to go by yourself or do a 50/50 with lily.

already answered short answer is to lot loose more trust
my game is always to form a strong core village group
voting william would have been tunnelling and he was already tunnelling me and when village starts tunnelling village the game is won by the wolves
i apoligised t her and hopefully she will be playnig ww again soon.

[Gordon the Cook]

I can't see Necro saying a shield was used when it wasn't. A protection and a conversion have really different impacts on a game so I don't think we would be led to believe a protection has occurred when a conversion has taken place.

Ok but what's the difference, no one is cleared and if they were you can still see them as cleared the only way this is an issue if constance had come back with no wolves on Lilly's wagon and the three were cleared

The difference is that if a conversion occurred, then you may as well just stop using day 1 to village read any players. If you work using the assumption that a player was converted, it also means, that if you spent all day as a wolf village reading certain folk, well, now you don't have to stand by that and now you can attempt to banish your yesterdays village read, using the assumption of conversion as excuse for why you are now voting your village reads.

[Edward the Barber]

Well I can't quote the post cause the other thread is locked but post 131 Friar said that Lily got all the task answers yesterday & I questioned them. That was wrong cause it was Edward I was talking to about the answers, Liliy didn't do them. That's either a lazy wolf not following the thread or else just mixing up of names?

Only other thing I had on them was that they were very quiet yesterday but came straight in with a read list. Dora was pretty quiet yesterday too though

i'm not saying this again
dora is the wolf in the group
i hate anagrams scrabble crosswords all that crap i'm old and that all we hads in school to play with when i was a kid. we borrow the irish times from the teachers lounge and photo copy the crosswords and anagrams and solve them at break, tyhink wrotong the letters in circle over and over because raid shadow legends hasnt been invented 

so i tried to get out of doing them and then when i realised that for the sake of the game id have to do my share i solved them
took all of 10 minuted after gordon gave the imdb hint

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

I can't see Necro saying a shield was used when it wasn't. A protection and a conversion have really different impacts on a game so I don't think we would be led to believe a protection has occurred when a conversion has taken place.

Ok but what's the difference, no one is cleared and if they were you can still see them as cleared the only way this is an issue if constance had come back with no wolves on Lilly's wagon and the three were cleared

As Gordon has said it is a big difference - with a protection we carry on as we are and can rely on past information / posts. With a conversion we need to re-assess everyone with fresh eyes

[Edward the Barber]

Ok but what's the difference, no one is cleared and if they were you can still see them as cleared the only way this is an issue if constance had come back with no wolves on Lilly's wagon and the three were cleared

The difference is that if a conversion occurred, then you may as well just stop using day 1 to village read any players. If you work using the assumption that a player was converted, it also means, that if you spent all day as a wolf village reading certain folk, well, now you don't have to stand by that and now you can attempt to banish your yesterdays village read, using the assumption of conversion as excuse for why you are now voting your village reads.

i'm not tho i'm trying to banish me and leave suitable breadcrumbs after myself for the game to be solved

i had dora as wolf yesterday clear as day

and before you ask why i shortened my list it was because i realised that i was going to be omgus to death

[Edward the Barber]

Ok but what's the difference, no one is cleared and if they were you can still see them as cleared the only way this is an issue if constance had come back with no wolves on Lilly's wagon and the three were cleared

As Gordon has said it is a big difference - with a protection we carry on as we are and can rely on past information / posts. With a conversion we need to re-assess everyone with fresh eyes

yes so you play your game and i'll pklay mine

i suggeet we banish me and that you gordomn a d zeena vote for me 
what do you think of that

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Well I can't quote the post cause the other thread is locked but post 131 Friar said that Lily got all the task answers yesterday & I questioned them. That was wrong cause it was Edward I was talking to about the answers, Liliy didn't do them. That's either a lazy wolf not following the thread or else just mixing up of names?

Only other thing I had on them was that they were very quiet yesterday but came straight in with a read list. Dora was pretty quiet yesterday too though

i'm not saying this again
dora is the wolf in the group
i hate anagrams scrabble crosswords all that crap i'm old and that all we hads in school to play with when i was a kid. we borrow the irish times from the teachers lounge and photo copy the crosswords and anagrams and solve them at break, tyhink wrotong the letters in circle over and over because raid shadow legends hasnt been invented 

so i tried to get out of doing them and then when i realised that for the sake of the game id have to do my share i solved them
took all of 10 minuted after gordon gave the imdb hint

I'm looking at friars interaction with lily in the roundtable yesterday. I'm not looking at it to see if you're a traitor in that interaction, it was that friar got info wrong

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

As Gordon has said it is a big difference - with a protection we carry on as we are and can rely on past information / posts. With a conversion we need to re-assess everyone with fresh eyes

yes so you play your game and i'll pklay mine

i suggeet we banish me and that you gordomn a d zeena vote for me 
what do you think of that

If you are a faithful I don't know why you would want to reduce our numbers?

[Edward the Barber]

i'm not saying this again
dora is the wolf in the group
i hate anagrams scrabble crosswords all that crap i'm old and that all we hads in school to play with when i was a kid. we borrow the irish times from the teachers lounge and photo copy the crosswords and anagrams and solve them at break, tyhink wrotong the letters in circle over and over because raid shadow legends hasnt been invented 

so i tried to get out of doing them and then when i realised that for the sake of the game id have to do my share i solved them
took all of 10 minuted after gordon gave the imdb hint

I'm looking at friars interaction with lily in the roundtable yesterday. I'm not looking at it to see if you're a traitor in that interaction, it was that friar got info wrong

its eithyer him or dora or bothbut i read it as a mistake

[Edward the Barber]

yes so you play your game and i'll pklay mine

i suggeet we banish me and that you gordomn a d zeena vote for me 
what do you think of that

If you are a faithful I don't know why you would want to reduce our numbers?

if i was holding important knowledge and i knew that if i can out the wolves would munch me i would still do it
if we can get info from my banishment then it makes sense.
it gives me a day to try to help the village and with struc#ture we can flip me and see we could also flipo dora in the same manner and see what that gets us but doing that would probably get her annoyed, no flip me and then we can see whats what

[Gordon the Cook]

As Gordon has said it is a big difference - with a protection we carry on as we are and can rely on past information / posts. With a conversion we need to re-assess everyone with fresh eyes

yes so you play your game and i'll pklay mine

i suggeet we banish me and that you gordomn a d zeena vote for me 
what do you think of that

I think we should vote for who we think is a traitor, I don't think you are a traitor, even if your assumptions could be seen as traitor helping, so would be more comfortable voting dora or friar.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

I have submitted my answers as I am heading out now. Couldn't get them all though.

[Friar Tuck]

Edward you need to remember Necro said this wouldn't be a mechanics heavy game and there's a small number of posters, I don't think a shield would be used as a cover for a conversion. So unless we have reason to doubt the Countess there's a traitor in the Lilly voters.

Friar/Dora/Edward - that's where we start looking. I know I'm village so ill look more at Dora and Edward later this afternoon.

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

@Edward the Barber

Can I asked a couple of question because you're really confusing me now

1. How does flipping you tell us who the traitor(s) are?
2. Why did you vote lily and not Billy yesterday?
3. Why are you so adamant Dora is wolf?

[Amy the Singer]

Team 1 help needed with movies please

[Edward the Barber]

Team 1 help needed with movies please

suits 

three pines

war horse

city of gold

rounders 

how i met you mother 

Chef

a warewolf in london

titanic (this was hard but leo is a lion and yer wan floated off cos shes a tree and then the boat )

the ice house

[Edward the Barber]

@Edward the Barber 

Can I asked a couple of question because you're really confusing me now

1. How does flipping you tell us who the traitor(s) are?
2. Why did you vote lily and not Billy yesterday?
3. Why are you so adamant Dora is wolf?

flipping me narrows the search down , we should really flip one of the three of dora friar or me so in fairness i voulenteer, there will likley be a results based prze today and we can use that if only certain people vote for banishment today then the info we get back will be meaning full

if dora and friar both vote me then gbetting told a wolf in in the groupo voting me wont help as we already know that the group dora and friar contains a wolf


i voted lilly because i believed at that time neither were wolves and i tossed a coin


its either friar or dora and i'm not adamant im seeing how people are reacting to things i say
i have no info save what constance gave us which is ( to me ) that dora and or friar are wolves
ive nbeen reading dora wolf and friar village all game

[Edward the Barber]

Good morning and well played faithfulls

I'm useless at these kind of comps, got a few and will try to get more but I'm finding it more difficult than yesterdays

who did you protect last night
you claimed to have been given a shield, if you shielded someone then the wolves know who it was. so whats the harm in sharing

[Dora the Explorer]

Edward - "I've relisted since then and you are now neutral
Do you want me to explain on a particular person. Gordon is village because he is harsh and unafraid to stand out .
Whos your top village"

So tell me again how you've been reading me as wolf all game and that you had me as a wolf "clear as day" yesterday. By your own metric I got to 60% likely to be a wolf. Because it seems like for at least a good chunk of the game you had me as slightly more likely than others to be a wolf and then neutral so doesn't seem like you've been reading me as a wolf all game.

[Dora the Explorer]

I'm also rather skeptical about Countess and their prize. I mean it would be a very solid play by a wolf because by the time you've been caught 3 villagers could be banished. Obviously I know me being suspicious about it is hardly going to convince too many people because I'm in the three they've said has at least one wolf.

[Countess Markievicz]

@Edward the Barber 

Can I asked a couple of question because you're really confusing me now

1. How does flipping you tell us who the traitor(s) are?
2. Why did you vote lily and not Billy yesterday?
3. Why are you so adamant Dora is wolf?

flipping me narrows the search down , we should really flip one of the three of dora friar or me so in fairness i voulenteer, there will likley be a results based prze today and we can use that if only certain people vote for banishment today then the info we get back will be meaning full

if dora and friar both vote me then gbetting told a wolf in in the groupo voting me wont help as we already know that the group dora and friar contains a wolf


i voted lilly because i believed at that time neither were wolves and i tossed a coin


its either friar or dora and i'm not adamant im seeing how people are reacting to things i say
i have no info save what constance gave us which is ( to me ) that dora and or friar are wolves
ive nbeen reading dora wolf and friar village all game

In post #101 you replied to Gordon:

#101
Yesterday, 10:04 PM
"

(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:Yeah, read all 12 posts by weyland, 6 in main, and 6 in here. I've no idea why you have a hard on for them, but that's your prerogative. I'm not convinced enough to join you though.

That's ok I can follow you into William"

And in post #135 you said you were happy voting either:
"

Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(Yesterday, 10:33 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:Objectively speaking.
I see I'm picking up votes from the slots I accused, literally the worst part of this game is omgus

I'm hoping that its more than just omgus that has me on william.
like, i believe thats the case, but omgus can be strong.

lilly has me as villager, so that would be my 100% not omgus, but i think william is the better play.

I'm happy with either, you can force my vote as I'll be self pressing because instead of defending or discussing the slots I suspect have omgus 
William hasn't voted yet I assume he's dropping on me so I probably need a vote on lilly from one of you or the countess if I'm to live . That's assuming Amy hasn't decided to enter the arena"

So did you find both Lilly and William Village or not? If yes, why were you happy to follow Gordon onto William but then didn't when it counted? Because he voted you?

[Edward the Barber]

Edward - "I've relisted since then and you are now neutral
Do you want me to explain on a particular person. Gordon is village because he is harsh and unafraid to stand out .
Whos your top village"

So tell me again how you've been reading me as wolf all game and that you had me as a wolf "clear as day" yesterday. By your own metric I got to 60% likely to be a wolf. Because it seems like for at least a good chunk of the game you had me as slightly more likely than others to be a wolf and then neutral so doesn't seem like you've been reading me as a wolf all game.

the scale goes from 100% village to 100% wolf on average you have been wolf all game to me 

i dodnt vote you and i'm not suggesting voting you so please just play the game and dont take it personally, maybe help to solve more .

i assume that you think either friar or i am a wolf based on what the countess has said ?

is it me or is it friar?
if its me grand we flip me but you do not vote for me and friar dosent vote for me , 
when we get a reposrt on vote analysis back we can then add that data, you or friar voting for me wiould spoil that data,

so do you agree

[Amy the Singer]

Team 1 help needed with movies please

suits 

three pines

war horse

city of gold

rounders 

how i met you mother 

Chef

a warewolf in london

titanic (this was hard but leo is a lion and yer wan floated off cos shes a tree and then the boat )

the ice house

Both Movies and TV Shows @Necro ?

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Good morning and well played faithfulls

I'm useless at these kind of comps, got a few and will try to get more but I'm finding it more difficult than yesterdays

who did you protect last night
you claimed to have been given a shield, if you shielded someone then the wolves know who it was. so whats the harm in sharing

The harm in me sharing that info is I believe there were more than one prize won yesterday (maybe also shield like I got) therefore I dont want to say if I have used it yet.

[Dora the Explorer]

Team 1 help needed with movies please

suits 

three pines

war horse

city of gold

rounders 

how i met you mother 

Chef

a warewolf in london

titanic (this was hard but leo is a lion and yer wan floated off cos shes a tree and then the boat )

the ice house

Emm, are you sure you're right with all of those? One of yours is a TV show and another I'd have gone for something else.

[Countess Markievicz]

I'm also rather skeptical about Countess and their prize. I mean it would be a very solid play by a wolf because by the time you've been caught 3 villagers could be banished. Obviously I know me being suspicious about it is hardly going to convince too many people because I'm in the three they've said has at least one wolf.

Skepticism is healthy. If you're not a traitor, what do you make of Edward and Friar?

[Edward the Barber]

flipping me narrows the search down , we should really flip one of the three of dora friar or me so in fairness i voulenteer, there will likley be a results based prze today and we can use that if only certain people vote for banishment today then the info we get back will be meaning full

if dora and friar both vote me then gbetting told a wolf in in the groupo voting me wont help as we already know that the group dora and friar contains a wolf


i voted lilly because i believed at that time neither were wolves and i tossed a coin


its either friar or dora and i'm not adamant im seeing how people are reacting to things i say
i have no info save what constance gave us which is ( to me ) that dora and or friar are wolves
ive nbeen reading dora wolf and friar village all game

In post #101 you replied to Gordon:

#101
Yesterday, 10:04 PM
"

(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:Yeah, read all 12 posts by weyland, 6 in main, and 6 in here. I've no idea why you have a hard on for them, but that's your prerogative. I'm not convinced enough to join you though.

That's ok I can follow you into William"

And in post #135 you said you were happy voting either:
"

Gordon the Cook Wrote:

I'm hoping that its more than just omgus that has me on william.
like, i believe thats the case, but omgus can be strong.

lilly has me as villager, so that would be my 100% not omgus, but i think william is the better play.

I'm happy with either, you can force my vote as I'll be self pressing because instead of defending or discussing the slots I suspect have omgus 
William hasn't voted yet I assume he's dropping on me so I probably need a vote on lilly from one of you or the countess if I'm to live . That's assuming Amy hasn't decided to enter the arena"

So did you find both Lilly and William Village or not? If yes, why were you happy to follow Gordon onto William but then didn't when it counted? Because he voted you?

words and deeds are two different things i wanted to see what gordom would do i dont understand what you are asking, day 1 for a vanilliger is about see ing what info can be gained by pushing and pulling and seeing how people react. you wanna player that simply plays platitudes and folloows the leader, thats not me and its probably a wolf.

you voted dora right? and now you think its either me or firar or dora

i'm happy to go but would prefer that there is structure so we can see more after, so neithjer dora nor firiar shoul vote on me if the decision is that im to be banished

[Dora the Explorer]

Edward - "I've relisted since then and you are now neutral
Do you want me to explain on a particular person. Gordon is village because he is harsh and unafraid to stand out .
Whos your top village"

So tell me again how you've been reading me as wolf all game and that you had me as a wolf "clear as day" yesterday. By your own metric I got to 60% likely to be a wolf. Because it seems like for at least a good chunk of the game you had me as slightly more likely than others to be a wolf and then neutral so doesn't seem like you've been reading me as a wolf all game.

the scale goes from 100% village to 100% wolf on average you have been wolf all game to me 

i dodnt vote you and i'm not suggesting voting you so please just play the game and dont take it personally, maybe help to solve more .

i assume that you think either friar or i am a wolf based on what the countess has said ?

is it me or is it friar?
if its me grand we flip me but you do not vote for me and friar dosent vote for me , 
when we get a reposrt on vote analysis back we can then add that data, you or friar voting for me wiould spoil that data,

so do you agree

It's not personal, I just think you are mischaracterising your views on me yesterday and I want others to see that too rather than just take what you are saying today as being the truth.

I don't think it is either of you at the minute. I'm more suspicious of Countess. 

Do you think that we'll get this "vote tracker" every night (if it even exists)?

[Edward the Barber]

suits 

three pines

war horse

city of gold

rounders 

how i met you mother 

Chef

a warewolf in london

titanic (this was hard but leo is a lion and yer wan floated off cos shes a tree and then the boat )

the ice house

Emm, are you sure you're right with all of those? One of yours is a TV show and another I'd have gone for something else.

i was trying to be funny

[Edward the Barber]

the scale goes from 100% village to 100% wolf on average you have been wolf all game to me 

i dodnt vote you and i'm not suggesting voting you so please just play the game and dont take it personally, maybe help to solve more .

i assume that you think either friar or i am a wolf based on what the countess has said ?

is it me or is it friar?
if its me grand we flip me but you do not vote for me and friar dosent vote for me , 
when we get a reposrt on vote analysis back we can then add that data, you or friar voting for me wiould spoil that data,

so do you agree

It's not personal, I just think you are mischaracterising your views on me yesterday and I want others to see that too rather than just take what you are saying today as being the truth.

I don't think it is either of you at the minute. I'm more suspicious of Countess. 

Do you think that we'll get this "vote tracker" every night (if it even exists)?

havent the foggiest, countess is brave if shes comming out with that as a lie but maybe its calculated, 
being suspected as a wolf but not being banished is a great way to stay alive 
dont bee so worried aboyt a little shade confirmed villagers get munched very quickly

[Gordon the Cook]

Team 1 help needed with movies please

suits 

three pines

war horse

city of gold

rounders 

how i met you mother 

Chef

a warewolf in london

titanic (this was hard but leo is a lion and yer wan floated off cos shes a tree and then the boat )

the ice house

we have 1 in common.

[Edward the Barber]

if there are 10 players and three are wolves how many mislynches have we got

todaty is 7-3 misslynch tnight lets say me then munch amy
tomorrow 5-3 misslynch again lets say dora then munch donno
then its 3-3 lynch friar ( as the last of countesses list) munch donno
1-3 wolves have maj and vote to kill reamaining villager


soo i donno maybe we need to klnow if shes telling the trutsh

zeena you need to share you info

[Edward the Barber]

suits 

three pines

war horse

city of gold

rounders 

how i met you mother 

Chef

a warewolf in london

titanic (this was hard but leo is a lion and yer wan floated off cos shes a tree and then the boat )

the ice house

we have 1 in common.

which one?

[Edward the Barber]

who did you protect last night
you claimed to have been given a shield, if you shielded someone then the wolves know who it was. so whats the harm in sharing

The harm in me sharing that info is I believe there were more than one prize won yesterday (maybe also shield like I got) therefore I dont want to say if I have used it yet.

like if you are not a wolf you are playing very like a wolf 
its quite frustrating

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

if there are 10 players and three are wolves how many mislynches have we got

todaty is 7-3 misslynch tnight lets say me then  munch amy
tomorrow 5-3 misslynch again lets say dora then munch donno
then its 3-3 lynch friar ( as the last of countesses list) munch donno
1-3 wolves have maj and vote to kill reamaining villager


soo i donno maybe we need to klnow if shes telling the trutsh

zeena you need to share you info

I see what you mean but can you see it from pov?

[Edward the Barber]

if there are 10 players and three are wolves how many mislynches have we got

todaty is 7-3 misslynch tnight lets say me then  munch amy
tomorrow 5-3 misslynch again lets say dora then munch donno
then its 3-3 lynch friar ( as the last of countesses list) munch donno
1-3 wolves have maj and vote to kill reamaining villager


soo i donno maybe we need to klnow if shes telling the trutsh

zeena you need to share you info

I see what you mean but can you see it from pov?

This is why I have unknown prizes, known prizes handed out are a nice replacement to powers but unknow prizes that may be given to wolves are just too complicated

[Gordon the Cook]

Edward - "I've relisted since then and you are now neutral
Do you want me to explain on a particular person. Gordon is village because he is harsh and unafraid to stand out .
Whos your top village"

So tell me again how you've been reading me as wolf all game and that you had me as a wolf "clear as day" yesterday. By your own metric I got to 60% likely to be a wolf. Because it seems like for at least a good chunk of the game you had me as slightly more likely than others to be a wolf and then neutral so doesn't seem like you've been reading me as a wolf all game.

the scale goes from 100% village to 100% wolf on average you have been wolf all game to me 

i dodnt vote you and i'm not suggesting voting you so please just play the game and dont take it personally, maybe help to solve more .

i assume that you think either friar or i am a wolf based on what the countess has said ?

is it me or is it friar?
if its me grand we flip me but you do not vote for me and friar dosent vote for me , 
when we get a reposrt on vote analysis back we can then add that data, you or friar voting for me wiould spoil that data,

so do you agree

If we need to have assumption in order to solve the game then my assumption would be that we will not be given the same vote analysis prize a 2nd night in a row.