FoG Inaugural WW

[Leg End Reject]

Deleting or editing posts isn't allowed

my guess , that is talking about deleting a lot of the posts from the reply box, not actually going back and editing already posted stuff. I'm open to being corrected though

That was exactly it, Neo. There was a huge nested quote and it was hard to tell who said what. I deleted some responses and made it even harder to tell ...

I haven't edited or deleted any of my own posts.

[Neowise]

qb put hands up for mistakenly thinking you did, so moving on from that.

[Neowise]

It's a toss up between Cee-Jay, nothing and Clarabel for me!

Its a two wolf game, try to narrow the suspects to two players or it can be seens as delibritely shading a village player, as if you have more suspects than wolves, you are definetly doing that.

[Leg End Reject]

I'll remove suspicion from Clarabel.

For now at least!

[nothing]

 but... But... But... I'm innocent! (and would be asleep but my annoying neighbour thought 11.45pm was an acceptable time to knock my door and scare the bejaysus out of me)

[Neowise]

So, based on the above, I'd recommend vig not shoot until we get some seer info.

I presume seer doesn't get a peek tonight if it's only post lynch.

The seer should stay hidden until it is absolutely necessary for them to make themselves known.  Unless they have peaked both wolves or are in danger of being lynched they should stay firmly hidden

If we are in lylo, that is, the point in the game where a wrong lynch loses the game, and seer has a wolf in the bag, why shouldn't they come out and direct a correct lynch?
If we lynch wrong there, then the game is over, so what if they haven't peeked both wolves.

[Trigger]

The seer should stay hidden until it is absolutely necessary for them to make themselves known.  Unless they have peaked both wolves or are in danger of being lynched they should stay firmly hidden

If we are in lylo, that is, the point in the game where a wrong lynch loses the game, and seer has a wolf in the bag, why shouldn't they come out and direct a correct lynch?
If we lynch wrong there, then the game is over, so what if they haven't peeked both wolves.t

Well that would fall under the absolutely nessessary part of my post, basically they should only come out if they have peeked both wolves before then.

[Neowise]

Everything I do comes off wolfy! Good scapegoat for the real wolves!

Goddammit, can't be nice and helpful, can't squabble innocently.

Why would you worry about accidentally making yourself look Wolfy... If you claim you aint a wolf?

Because that could lead to a mislynch, or a shot, and I'd like to actually be able to be a helpful villager

This time.... you say

Hmm, have I cried not-wolf too many times?!

When nothing is overly helpful, nothing is a wolf

Nothing is always overhelpful! But I'm not a wolf this time

Hahaha I was asking nothing (the poster)

You're acting as suspicious as usual! Nah, I got nothing yet

I think nothing could do with a name change!

It does get confusing

What's suspicious about pointing out observations?

I said "as usual"

my legacy is nothing page 3, it feels laboured.

[Clarabel]

Says the one with a name covered.....

Why did you just reply to yourself?

Because I can't edit and my first sentence was written like I wasn't blindfolded.

So it was my correction.

[Clarabel]

I'll remove suspicion from Clarabel.

For now at least!

Why though?

[Clarabel]

Qb and Neo any reads?

[quickbeam]

So, based on the above, I'd recommend vig not shoot until we get some seer info.

I presume seer doesn't get a peek tonight if it's only post lynch.

The seer should stay hidden until it is absolutely necessary for them to make themselves known.  Unless they have peaked both wolves or are in danger of being lynched they should stay firmly hidden

My subconcious was working overnighit I think, because this is the point I wanted to come back to this morning though I couldn't remember who had made it.  I disagree that the seer should wait until both wolves are peeked.  If one wolf is peeked it is imperitive that that infiormation doesn't die with them, and while a lynch may be foreshadowed, a munch certainly isn't and it'd be too risky not to reveal.

I have noted that Neowise said almost as much in post 127 but Trigger still maintains waiting until both wolves are found in post 128.

[quickbeam]

Qb and Neo any reads?

Let's wait until after munch at least.

[Trigger]

The seer should stay hidden until it is absolutely necessary for them to make themselves known.  Unless they have peaked both wolves or are in danger of being lynched they should stay firmly hidden

My subconcious was working overnighit I think, because this is the point I wanted to come back to this morning though I couldn't remember who had made it.  I disagree that the seer should wait until both wolves are peeked.  If one wolf is peeked it is imperitive that that infiormation doesn't die with them, and while a lynch may be foreshadowed, a munch certainly isn't and it'd be too risky not to reveal.

I have noted that Neowise said almost as much in post 127 but Trigger still maintains waiting until both wolves are found in post 128.

So you think that the seer should make themselves known if they peek a wolf on night one?

Would that not basically render wagonomics useless and allowing the remaining wolf to munch them with near 100% certainty, taking any chance of extra information that can be gotten from the village? 

I suppose its a risk assessment and the seer should be weighing everything up to make there decision

[Trigger]

If we are in lylo, that is, the point in the game where a wrong lynch loses the game, and seer has a wolf in the bag, why shouldn't they come out and direct a correct lynch?
If we lynch wrong there, then the game is over, so what if they haven't peeked both wolves.t

Well that would fall under the absolutely nessessary part of my post, basically they should only come out if they have peeked both wolves before then.

Quoting this for clarity, as I feel QB is being dishonest here and latching onto one part, I clarified that those situations that Neo stated (lylo case) would fall under the absolutely nessarary to come out, but QB seems to be ignoring that part of the post

[Ectoplasm]

Morning. Always wary of overly long discussions about roles. Seer and vig should play roles best they know how. I know newbies can use guidance but focusing too much on mechanics can be a safe place for wolves to talk. Not saying that's what's happening here, just advocating for moving on. So far nothing and Clara seeming wolfiest to me but I'm not overly attached to those reads.

[cee_jay]

Clara always seems Wolfy to me.
A few posters staying below the radar at the moment, at least with 10 players there isn't really anywhere to hide and they will hopefully come out to play later.

[quickbeam]

My subconcious was working overnighit I think, because this is the point I wanted to come back to this morning though I couldn't remember who had made it.  I disagree that the seer should wait until both wolves are peeked.  If one wolf is peeked it is imperitive that that infiormation doesn't die with them, and while a lynch may be foreshadowed, a munch certainly isn't and it'd be too risky not to reveal.

I have noted that Neowise said almost as much in post 127 but Trigger still maintains waiting until both wolves are found in post 128.

So you think that the seer should make themselves known if they peek a wolf on night one?

Would that not basically render wagonomics useless and allowing the remaining wolf to munch them with near 100% certainty, taking any chance of extra information that can be gotten from the village? 

I suppose its a risk assessment and the seer should be weighing everything up to make there decision

Yes.  I think if the seer peeks a wolf they should come out.  Wagonimics *may* be sacrificed for the chance to catch a wolf, but there's other lynches where it may be used.for wagonomics.  The reveal can also be timed to hopefully give them another peek.

Noobs - "wagonomics" is the analysis of the votes for the lynch to see if wolves can be spotted from how they voted.

[Trigger]

Clara always seems Wolfy to me.
A few posters staying below the radar at the moment, at least with 10 players there isn't really anywhere to hide and they will hopefully come out to play later.

Post counts as of now.. 

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quickbeam
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nothing
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Leg End Reject
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Clarabel
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cee_jay
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Neowise
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Necro
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Ectoplasm
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HeyV
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JohnGreenFan
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[Trigger]

 The reveal can also be timed to hopefully give them another peek.

I had presumed that they would get the results at end of night phase, I reread the OP again and it doesn't state when it will be received, whether it's instant or delayed, so the above could be possible

[quickbeam]

Even if they get the result right after the lynch, they could hold off telling us until a more opportune time.

[Necro]

Morning dawned on the FoGgers and as they awoke they saw the body of Leg End Reject in pieces beside them.

Leg End Reject has been munched, they were an NRV

Lynch at 9pm tonight folks!

[Necro]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQ...Q/viewform

Lynch Form Opened!

[Leg End Reject]

I understand the words you're all using but I've no idea what they mean!

Why is it bad if the seer reveals themself?
Why is post count relevant?
And why am I suspicious of Clarabel again????

[Trigger]

I understand the words you're all using but I've no idea what they mean!

Why is it bad if the seer reveals themself?
Why is post count relevant?
And why am I suspicious of Clarabel again????

You dead

[quickbeam]

I understand the words you're all using but I've no idea what they mean!

Why is it bad if the seer reveals themself?
Why is post count relevant?
And why am I suspicious of Clarabel again????

Shush, you're dead!

That was an odd munch choice tbh, and unfair too

[Trigger]

Right so.. 2 posts last night then stick out like a sore thumb

[cee_jay]

I understand the words you're all using but I've no idea what they mean!

Why is it bad if the seer reveals themself?
Why is post count relevant?
And why am I suspicious of Clarabel again????

Shush, you're dead!

That was an odd munch choice tbh, and unfair too

Not so odd. They posted yesterday about not giving away their role. If not a wolf, it would be an obvious pick for role hunting.

[Trigger]

My spidey senses are tingling, are ye trying to suss out my role?

A role you say

At bedtime my wolfiest players are:
Leg End Reject - with their Wolfy role
Ectoplasm - we have never once been on the same team so that now makes her a wolf

These 2, the only ones I remember mentioning the role, I'm not sure if a wolf would post like this, why draw the attention to the post and to themselves then.. surely wolves would bring it up in backroom and ignore it on the thread.

[cee_jay]

I thought it was a wolf slip when I posted that because they hadn't addressed Clara's post in anyway.

[Ectoplasm]

A role you say

At bedtime my wolfiest players are:
Leg End Reject - with their Wolfy role
Ectoplasm - we have never once been on the same team so that now makes her a wolf

These 2, the only ones I remember mentioning the role, I'm not sure if a wolf would post like this, why draw the attention to the post and to themselves then.. surely wolves would bring it up in backroom and ignore it on the thread.

Possibly, or double bluff. I'm not loving CJs shade on me there but am going to assume it's facetious for now.

[quickbeam]

Hmmm, I do remember Clara posting that and thinking - Why make it obvious if a wolf might not have noticed the first time. I thought it was a bad move by Clara, but never actually thought that a wolf probably wouldn't do that.

[cee_jay]

These 2, the only ones I remember mentioning the role, I'm not sure if a wolf would post like this, why draw the attention to the post and to themselves then.. surely wolves would bring it up in backroom and ignore it on the thread.

Possibly, or double bluff. I'm not loving CJs shade on me there but am going to assume it's facetious for now.

It is, you weren't really on the thread at that stage so I was poking you to see what the reaction was. 
Leg End Reject came straight back with suspecting me, which I didn't like, and tbh I would have had them top of my wolf pile for today as a result. 
@JohnGreenFan is very quiet. As is @HeyV

[nothing]

Oh that feels like a mean munch.

[Neowise]

Bit mean to munch a new player first in their first game. It does look like a role hunting munch. 7v2 means the vigs shot wont be free if it misses, it will be taking a mislynch away from the village, so id advise that they shoot under the villages guidance only instead of going hero shooting.

[JohnGreenFan]

My subconcious was working overnighit I think, because this is the point I wanted to come back to this morning though I couldn't remember who had made it.  I disagree that the seer should wait until both wolves are peeked.  If one wolf is peeked it is imperitive that that infiormation doesn't die with them, and while a lynch may be foreshadowed, a munch certainly isn't and it'd be too risky not to reveal.

I have noted that Neowise said almost as much in post 127 but Trigger still maintains waiting until both wolves are found in post 128.

So you think that the seer should make themselves known if they peek a wolf on night one?

Would that not basically render wagonomics useless and allowing the remaining wolf to munch them with near 100% certainty, taking any chance of extra information that can be gotten from the village? 

I suppose its a risk assessment and the seer should be weighing everything up to make there decision

I wouldn't be advocating for a seer reveal but if they did peek a wolf then vig could take their shot so no issues with wagonomics

[Ectoplasm]

Possibly, or double bluff. I'm not loving CJs shade on me there but am going to assume it's facetious for now.

It is, you weren't really on the thread at that stage so I was poking you to see what the reaction was. 
Leg End Reject came straight back with suspecting me, which I didn't like, and tbh I would have had them top of my wolf pile for today as a result. 
@JohnGreenFan is very quiet. As is @HeyV

Yeah I was busy soaking up scandal elsewhere

Day 1 now so everyone should be a bit more active. I always find it hard to get started with little of note happening. Munch this morning was obviously role hunting and harsh on a new player. Was expecting a flavour munch with numbers so tight.

[JohnGreenFan]

Also, morning all. Nothing, I can't believe you killed off the newbie. Bad form.

[quickbeam]

I wouldn't be advocating for a seer reveal but if they did peek a wolf then vig could take their shot so no issues with wagonomics

And how would the vig know who the wolf was unless the seer reveals?

[Neowise]

So you think that the seer should make themselves known if they peek a wolf on night one?

Would that not basically render wagonomics useless and allowing the remaining wolf to munch them with near 100% certainty, taking any chance of extra information that can be gotten from the village? 

I suppose its a risk assessment and the seer should be weighing everything up to make there decision

I wouldn't be advocating for a seer reveal but if they did peek a wolf then vig could take their shot so no issues with wagonomics

If the vigs shot kills a wolf, we gain a mislynch.