(23-03-2026, 10:34 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Betty voting Benji could mean she isn’t worried about him flipping red so either knows he’s a faithful (which means she’s a traitor)

(23-03-2026, 10:43 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 10:40 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: Can you explain this like I'm an idiot please? I don't follow your logic.

If Betty was a Traitor and did win the prize - she picks two faithfuls and declares on thread to try gain village credit. She has a choice between Zeena and Benji to save herself and goes Benji as she knows he will be a faithful even though it looked like this would have brought us to a tie. If she went for Zeena she would still have been saved but was she worried about Zeena flipping red?

(23-03-2026, 10:44 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 10:41 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: that means you and pat are safe tonight, right?

No still in danger along with Vincent.

(23-03-2026, 10:47 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 10:46 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: If Betty is a traitor she'd know if Zeena was too, unless this is a roundabout way to say she saved a fellow traitor?

Yea that’s what I meant about being worried about Zeena flipping red.

(23-03-2026, 10:49 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 10:46 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: By my count we've 22 declared votes on the thread.

I don't think we've a declared vote from Lilly or Frank.

Frank hasn’t posted and Lily has only 1 post so they didn’t vote.

(23-03-2026, 10:57 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 10:54 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: If betty and vincent are alive tomorrow, betty is being flipped next.

Well Betty will defo be alive as she isn’t on the list.

(23-03-2026, 11:00 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 10:55 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: I suspect another prize earlier.

I say this is most likely rather than Betty lying about what prize she would as she would be quickly found out.

(23-03-2026, 11:01 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 10:57 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: Surely she doesn't need to if it's between me and Ben? It could have been either of us, and neither flips red so it does make her look super suss.

She would if you and her are Traitors as voting Benji saves you

(24-03-2026, 12:23 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 12:08 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: The killing of Magda is surprising but if it happened in plajn sight there should be a somewhat obvious tell in last night's posts, how else could it be done?

Betty is still potentially a traitor imo especially after escaping a second killing in the night, why did they pick Magda and not Betty?

Where did I pick magda? Am I missing something? I vote for Benji and had Betty second in my list. 

Obviously we are all potentially traitors I don't think anyone is anyway clear. If Betty turns traitor do you think Vincent might be too?

(23-03-2026, 10:37 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: Well benji is out, this could prove I'm faithful which is great but Betty looks super suspicious now

(23-03-2026, 10:48 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: Well this is a mess.

Betty def needs to be booted out tomorrow. I will lay out a few thoughts before I finish up as there's a 1/3 chance I won't be here for breakfast.

@Betty the Beggar is my prime suspect based in sudden appearance during the task and now thus weird jump on benji which shows her to be untrustworthy.

@Rhoda the Spinster the earlier "I'll give my thoughts later" message is classic wolf behaviour to buy time.

@Boris the Fool something just off about Boris and also being one to want to vote out the few in the murder pool. I know others have defended this stance but it doesn't work for me.

All of the above could be complete crap in the long run but just in case I'm murdered later this is where I'm at.

(23-03-2026, 11:00 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: Will @lorcand1990 be offering us any clarification on the votes or are we to be left stewing 😆

(23-03-2026, 11:15 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 11:03 PM)Boris the Fool Wrote: post #314

Christ you're right, Apologies I mist have mixed you up with someone else and nightmare trying to find the post on phone. Either way it wasn't you so sorry about the accusation!

(23-03-2026, 11:17 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 07:22 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: Not really, by morning one will be gone for certain and that'll leave only 3. It'd suit the Traitors to have attention focused on us. Plus interesting the few who seem keen to dash the Murder pool on the rocks.

@Boris the Fool it was actually @Donald the Spoofer  meant to tag in the other post as my other suspect for being a traitor.

(23-03-2026, 11:23 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

Until tomorrow fellow players... maybe!

(24-03-2026, 09:14 AM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: Still here for now! Have to assume any dieing will occur at 10am.

(24-03-2026, 10:58 AM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 12:26 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 12:23 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: Where did I pick magda? Am I missing something? I vote for Benji and had Betty second in my list. 

Obviously we are all potentially traitors I don't think anyone is anyway clear. If Betty turns traitor do you think Vincent might be too?

I didn't say you picked Magda, I asked why did they (the traitors) choose her

(23-03-2026, 02:02 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote: I removed myself from list just incase I’m banished.

(24-03-2026, 12:56 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote: It’s in BIG BOLD MOD WRITING in the post directly above the one you quoted, Prada. 😕

(24-03-2026, 12:49 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: Looking back at the Ben voters last night and reasons for voting::

laura: voted at 2035, "Sorry Benji, I think you're a really nice guy. I've enjoyed getting to know you. However, I’m sticking with my gut from earlier... your comment to William about not getting the 5th word in the task and backroom chats felt like you were stirring a bit. The whole 'are you a newbie, are you not' thing too, just sort of added to that."
dora: voted at 2047, didn't provide reasoning at the time of voting
tuck: Voted at 2049, "Benji based solely on pretending to be a noob for a pass, sorry Benji very little to go on so far"
boris: declared at 2050 as the 4th voter when there was just one voter on 3 other players; "The newbie/not a newbie issue was the last straw. The weird question to me on page 1 was the first straw"
magda - confirmed faithful
betty: voted Ben as a "self-pres" vote at 2129; based on on-thread counts at this point, Zeena had 5 votes, Ben had 4 and Betty had 3

Also interesting that Zeena voted off-wagon (along with 5 others as below) at 2113 rather than self-pres - because she knew that there was a double vote incoming? Or because she doesn't think Ben or Betty are traitors? In fairness to her, the on-thread count at the time she voted was 5 to her (assuming she saw Rhonda's vote 2 mins before hers) and 4 to Ben so it was very much on a knife edge at that point considering that there were a good few votes still to come.

amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

If Betty is indeed a traitor, her vote here is not a good look for Zeena; obviously that's countered by the fact that Zeena's vote is a pretty good look for her

(24-03-2026, 01:01 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 12:56 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote: It’s in BIG BOLD MOD WRITING in the post directly above the one you quoted, Prada. 😕

Yes but did you know at the time of your decision?
Because what was the real reason then? Why would you have been afraid of banishment more so than murder?
I'm just finding it surprising you said banishment when murder was a bit more likely given you were one of the 5.

(23-03-2026, 07:25 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 04:46 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote: And if I was a traitor why would I stick my head above the paraphet like that

exactly. maybe ask magda that, it was them casting that weird wide aspersion.

(23-03-2026, 08:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 07:50 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: Think people need to start soft declaring where they are voting so we can track it. More info we have the better

dora, magda, ???

I'm not fully caught up, but i'm looking here

(23-03-2026, 10:19 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 06:57 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: I said that earlier, are you just repeating the theories of others?

(23-03-2026, 10:12 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: I find this post by Maeve to be strange - it’s like she is just copying Zeena’s theory from earlier. I’m pretty sure it was also her that reworded a post by Amy like it was hers earlier. 

Vote: Maeve

Sorry it was Magda earlier but I still stand by my vote

(24-03-2026, 01:02 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 12:49 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: Looking back at the Ben voters last night and reasons for voting::

laura: voted at 2035, "Sorry Benji, I think you're a really nice guy. I've enjoyed getting to know you. However, I’m sticking with my gut from earlier... your comment to William about not getting the 5th word in the task and backroom chats felt like you were stirring a bit. The whole 'are you a newbie, are you not' thing too, just sort of added to that."
dora: voted at 2047, didn't provide reasoning at the time of voting
tuck: Voted at 2049, "Benji based solely on pretending to be a noob for a pass, sorry Benji very little to go on so far"
boris: declared at 2050 as the 4th voter when there was just one voter on 3 other players; "The newbie/not a newbie issue was the last straw. The weird question to me on page 1 was the first straw"
magda - confirmed faithful
betty: voted Ben as a "self-pres" vote at 2129; based on on-thread counts at this point, Zeena had 5 votes, Ben had 4 and Betty had 3

Also interesting that Zeena voted off-wagon (along with 5 others as below) at 2113 rather than self-pres - because she knew that there was a double vote incoming? Or because she doesn't think Ben or Betty are traitors? In fairness to her, the on-thread count at the time she voted was 5 to her (assuming she saw Rhonda's vote 2 mins before hers) and 4 to Ben so it was very much on a knife edge at that point considering that there were a good few votes still to come.

amy - maeve, count
william - weyland
vincent - donald
mauve - pat
dora - zeena

If Betty is indeed a traitor, her vote here is not a good look for Zeena; obviously that's countered by the fact that Zeena's vote is a pretty good look for her

Thanks for that breakdown. On that, I might be leaning into the Betty theory. If it was self preservation, why not vote for the person with the most votes (Zeena), instead of the person with just one vote more than her (Ben). There must have been some other reason she choose Ben rather than Zeena (has she provided that already).

(24-03-2026, 01:06 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 01:01 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote: Yes but did you know at the time of your decision?
Because what was the real reason then? Why would you have been afraid of banishment more so than murder?
I'm just finding it surprising you said banishment when murder was a bit more likely given you were one of the 5.

Because the traitors had already put me up for murder and I had to select a player from the 5. I dunno if I could still be selected for banishment but if I could and was instantly banished then all info that I had at that time would be on thread.

(24-03-2026, 01:07 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 01:02 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: Thanks for that breakdown. On that, I might be leaning into the Betty theory. If it was self preservation, why not vote for the person with the most votes (Zeena), instead of the person with just one vote more than her (Ben). There must have been some other reason she choose Ben rather than Zeena (has she provided that already).

Several times, killing Benji gave us more information than Zeena. Since I've been told he has the same alignment as Vincent it clears Vincent in my mind

(24-03-2026, 01:09 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 01:06 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote: Because the traitors had already put me up for murder and I had to select a player from the 5. I dunno if I could still be selected for banishment but if I could and was instantly banished then all info that I had at that time would be on thread.

That's not answering my question though.
I understand why you would shield yourself/remove from the list.
It's the reasoning you have that has something niggling at me a bit. I'm gonna go back and read the posts again.

(24-03-2026, 12:34 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 12:26 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: I didn't say you picked Magda, I asked why did they (the traitors) choose her

My bad. I actually don't know I didn't see any danger in magda at that point and I don't think she was a solid faithful either. That's why I said earlier I wonder if it was that she was first faithful to mention the dagger

(24-03-2026, 01:06 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote:

(23-03-2026, 07:25 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: exactly. maybe ask magda that, it was them casting that weird wide aspersion.

(23-03-2026, 08:38 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: dora, magda, ???

I'm not fully caught up, but i'm looking here

(23-03-2026, 10:19 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Sorry it was Magda earlier but I still stand by my vote

There are only three explicit mentions of Magda in the whole game, the one from Pat stands out to me, that could easily be the mechanic to murder her, call her by the wrong name and then correct yourself

(24-03-2026, 01:14 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 01:09 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote: That's not answering my question though.
I understand why you would shield yourself/remove from the list.
It's the reasoning you have that has something niggling at me a bit. I'm gonna go back and read the posts again.

Dunno what’s niggling at you tbh. I win a prize, I used prize on myself, I made the choice to declare what I did on thread when there was a possibility that I (like others) could be banished. I had no need to hide and better that as much info as possible out in the open should I die.

(24-03-2026, 01:10 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 01:07 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote: Several times, killing Benji gave us more information than Zeena. Since I've been told he has the same alignment as Vincent it clears Vincent in my mind

A traitor knows everyone’s alignment. Did you have a select amount of players to choose from? Do you not think the odds of your selections being faithfuls was greater than the odds of them being traitors?

(24-03-2026, 01:15 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Gonna be afk for a bit now but back later on

(24-03-2026, 01:26 PM)Donald the Spoofer Wrote: some players have asked, why Magda? Traitors will likely have picked someone who can't be linked back to them. So someone with little interaction and not on anyones list would be a good pick.

(24-03-2026, 01:26 PM)Donald the Spoofer Wrote: some players have asked, why Magda? Traitors will likely have picked someone who can't be linked back to them. So someone with little interaction and not on anyones list would be a good pick.

(24-03-2026, 01:30 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote:

(24-03-2026, 01:26 PM)Donald the Spoofer Wrote: some players have asked, why Magda? Traitors will likely have picked someone who can't be linked back to them. So someone with little interaction and not on anyones list would be a good pick.

If its murder in plain sight there has to be some interaction