(19-01-2023, 04:24 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 04:03 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: >I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield?

At the time of the quote, you had not won the 2nd shield, therefore "anybody else could have won the 2nd shield", and when they did, they would have told us that it could be used on anyone. That's why you were honest about .

So, this sentence "If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo" was a lie.

Again I'm lost.

The above sentence in bold I made today in reference to your theory that I could be a wolf, won the 1st shield, give it to a villager and then selected them for murder so that it would look like I was attacked, hence not a wolf

Now, if I did the above, I wouldn't have said today that I could have given the shield to anyone, I would have said that I could only use it on myself, and given most ww games you can't or its against the spirit of the game for wolves to attack their own to make a wolf look village, and that would have blown your theory out of the water.

I said I could have given it to anyone because it is true. and I have nothing to hide.

(19-01-2023, 04:49 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Gordon are you saying that Zeena saying now that their prize could have been used on anyone is a traitor slip? So your claim is that Zeena (lets assume traitor for the moment) won a prize of a shield, declared it on thread, then Zeena gave shield to a villager, traitors took a failed munch on that villager to give Zeena village look?

Just want to make sure I have it right in my head

(19-01-2023, 04:56 PM)Weyland the Blacksmith Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 04:49 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Gordon are you saying that Zeena saying now that their prize could have been used on anyone is a traitor slip? So your claim is that Zeena (lets assume traitor for the moment) won a prize of a shield, declared it on thread, then Zeena gave shield to a villager, traitors took a failed munch on that villager to give Zeena village look?

Just want to make sure I have it right in my head

Seems like a strange play so early into the game

Quote:William the Grave Robber 
#238
17-01-2023, 05:57 PM
Catching up, things standing out so far.

Edward immediately suggesting a conversion screams Traitor trying to sow the idea of a third, if there are currently 2. Seemed to come out of nowhere. Add that to him choosing to go on lilly last night and not me - Traitor knows both Lilly and I are Faithful, but also knows there's suspicion on me, easier to hide with me still in the game, tried to claim mechanics etc. Very traitorous behaviour today, as called out by several people.

Zeena told us all yesterday that she had a shield. Making a couple of assumptions - there was at least 1 Traitor on Team 2, there was more than 1 prize given last night but the Traitors assumed only 1 prize and they won 1 themselves, they'd have thought Zeena was lying and attempted to murder there. Alternatively, they took Zeena at her word, and weren't expecting any other prizes to be given (as per the show, mostly 1 shield only) and attempted to murder elsewhere in Team 2.

I don't think there was an option to give the shield to anyone else, or a choice on when to use it, but Necro may have tweaked things from the show for playability.

Countess, that's an interesting prize, if indeed it was a prize. If you're telling the truth, I don't believe it indicates alignment. A Traitor can bus another Traitor to gain credibility. If you're lying, then you're definitely a Traitor. Either way, it doesn't clear you imo.

(19-01-2023, 05:30 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: @Zeena Warrior Princess I’m leaning William, do you think friar was just distancing himself from William when he had him in his traitor leans?

(19-01-2023, 05:24 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

Quote:William the Grave Robber 
#238
17-01-2023, 05:57 PM
Catching up, things standing out so far.

Edward immediately suggesting a conversion screams Traitor trying to sow the idea of a third, if there are currently 2. Seemed to come out of nowhere. Add that to him choosing to go on lilly last night and not me - Traitor knows both Lilly and I are Faithful, but also knows there's suspicion on me, easier to hide with me still in the game, tried to claim mechanics etc. Very traitorous behaviour today, as called out by several people.

Zeena told us all yesterday that she had a shield. Making a couple of assumptions - there was at least 1 Traitor on Team 2, there was more than 1 prize given last night but the Traitors assumed only 1 prize and they won 1 themselves, they'd have thought Zeena was lying and attempted to murder there. Alternatively, they took Zeena at her word, and weren't expecting any other prizes to be given (as per the show, mostly 1 shield only) and attempted to murder elsewhere in Team 2.

I don't think there was an option to give the shield to anyone else, or a choice on when to use it, but Necro may have tweaked things from the show for playability.

Countess, that's an interesting prize, if indeed it was a prize. If you're telling the truth, I don't believe it indicates alignment. A Traitor can bus another Traitor to gain credibility. If you're lying, then you're definitely a Traitor. Either way, it doesn't clear you imo.

Just noting how according to William, Traitors might have thought Zeena was lying and so targeted her, whereas if I'm lying, I'm definitely a traitor - why the different treatment?

(19-01-2023, 05:27 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: It's a genius bit of play if it were true, or maybe not a Gordon has thought about it.

I can't explain why I was targeted when I said I won a shield (we can only assume I was targeted as no one else has claimed to have had a shield)

I'm not going to justify my actions throughout the game, vote for me if you want, you can still win I think with one mislynch.

I'm voting William or Weyland tonight, the rest of you vote how you want.

(16-01-2023, 09:43 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: I think I'll be voting from the following three.

Amy: We have to get rid of her sometime, doing it tonight allows us to find more info on folks before getting rid of somebody who is posting and giving us info to work off of.

Lily: Comes in and votes weyland for pocketing, with no discussion. doesn't want to discuss anybody else,

(16-01-2023, 07:21 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: Twenty minutes and this is it?

Wow

Vote; wetland

(16-01-2023, 07:22 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: Votes are final and LOCKED once cast, so think carefully before voting.

Fyi

William: narrows down their voting to the two highest posters and the no show. The reasons for me don't convince me.


My mind is not closed to only these three, this is just where i've landed after I narrowed my suspects down to three, i'll be keeping an eye on others thoughts too and reevaluating if i find others arguments convincing

(19-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Are we willing to end the game after william and weyland are gone?

(19-01-2023, 07:32 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Are we willing to end the game after william and weyland are gone?

If there is any lingering doubt over a possible traitor, no. What good is it to end the game with 4 players left

(19-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Are we willing to end the game after william and weyland are gone?

(19-01-2023, 07:36 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 07:29 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Are we willing to end the game after william and weyland are gone?

Surely that depends on how they flip. Im convinced there are still two wolves

How far does the game go if we dont end it?

(20-01-2023, 11:11 AM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Has to be weyland next for me

(20-01-2023, 11:15 AM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(20-01-2023, 11:11 AM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Has to be weyland next for me

What do you make of the suggestion that Zeena used her shield on another player N1 to make us think she was attacked?