16-01-2023, 07:25 PM
I'm not seeing Zeena as a traitor at all. The interaction with Gordon was odd and I don't understand Gs logic at all but they both lean village to me.
(16-01-2023, 07:25 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: I'm not seeing Zeena as a traitor at all. The interaction with Gordon was odd and I don't understand Gs logic at all but they both lean village to me.Ive definatly got one too many in my reads could just hbe village
(17-01-2023, 12:04 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: So I will be working under the assumption that a conversion took place. Personally I would have munched outside the winning group so I'm confident that the wolves are wetland and Zena and whoever they converted.Thats a lot of assumptions and ones that could get good good villager killed.
Is Gordon too obvious for conversion? Amy would be ideal if the wolves knew she was getting swapped out but thats probably information they wouldn't have got.
Proba ly not allowed discuss substitution s but I would like to say welcome Amy and if you have been following along I felt bad that lilly went on the flip last night.
I think the bringing up of the shield and then it being the mechanic today is pretty clever way of hiding a conversion.
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(17-01-2023, 12:21 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:You think conversions will be announced ?(17-01-2023, 12:04 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: So I will be working under the assumption that a conversion took place. Personally I would have munched outside the winning group so I'm confident that the wolves are wetland and Zena and whoever they converted.Thats a lot of assumptions and ones that could get good good villager killed.
Is Gordon too obvious for conversion? Amy would be ideal if the wolves knew she was getting swapped out but thats probably information they wouldn't have got.
Proba ly not allowed discuss substitution s but I would like to say welcome Amy and if you have been following along I felt bad that lilly went on the flip last night.
I think the bringing up of the shield and then it being the mechanic today is pretty clever way of hiding a conversion.
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Firstly I think a conversion would be announced, or course there is also a chance it might not be. Without any announcement I will not not make any assumptions here.
I would have murdered someone from the losing group also, it would make sense. Apart from my announcement yesterday that I won a prize, can you explain who you see me as a wolf now?
(17-01-2023, 12:04 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: So I will be working under the assumption that a conversion took place. Personally I would have munched outside the winning group so I'm confident that the wolves are wetland and Zena and whoever they converted.>So I will be working under the assumption that a conversion took place.
Is Gordon too obvious for conversion? Amy would be ideal if the wolves knew she was getting swapped out but thats probably information they wouldn't have got.
Proba ly not allowed discuss substitution s but I would like to say welcome Amy and if you have been following along I felt bad that lilly went on the flip last night.
I think the bringing up of the shield and then it being the mechanic today is pretty clever way of hiding a conversion.
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(17-01-2023, 12:25 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:(17-01-2023, 12:21 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: Thats a lot of assumptions and ones that could get good good villager killed.You think conversions will be announced ?
Firstly I think a conversion would be announced, or course there is also a chance it might not be. Without any announcement I will not not make any assumptions here.
I would have murdered someone from the losing group also, it would make sense. Apart from my announcement yesterday that I won a prize, can you explain who you see me as a wolf now?
(17-01-2023, 12:25 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:(17-01-2023, 12:21 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: Thats a lot of assumptions and ones that could get good good villager killed.You think conversions will be announced ?
Firstly I think a conversion would be announced, or course there is also a chance it might not be. Without any announcement I will not not make any assumptions here.
I would have murdered someone from the losing group also, it would make sense. Apart from my announcement yesterday that I won a prize, can you explain who you see me as a wolf now?
Quote:This morning I must inform you that a player was attacked but managed to shield themselves from any potential murdering that may or may not have occurred.so there is already precedent for more announcements than the show gave, so conversions could be announced too.
So everyone is back for breakfast!!
(17-01-2023, 12:31 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:Or you were converted And the mechanic to stop us knowing if there is a conversion.(17-01-2023, 12:04 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: So I will be working under the assumption that a conversion took place. Personally I would have munched outside the winning group so I'm confident that the wolves are wetland and Zena and whoever they converted.>So I will be working under the assumption that a conversion took place.
Is Gordon too obvious for conversion? Amy would be ideal if the wolves knew she was getting swapped out but thats probably information they wouldn't have got.
Proba ly not allowed discuss substitution s but I would like to say welcome Amy and if you have been following along I felt bad that lilly went on the flip last night.
I think the bringing up of the shield and then it being the mechanic today is pretty clever way of hiding a conversion.
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Where did you come up with that assumption?
I've watched UK, AUS and US show. Not once were they allowed to convert and kill on the same night.
We've been told they had a failed kill attempt.
Why are you making stuff up?
Unless you know something we don't, I won't be working using your conversion assumption, as I think its baseless, and doesn't follow the mechanics that the show uses.
(17-01-2023, 12:41 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:(17-01-2023, 12:31 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: >So I will be working under the assumption that a conversion took place.Or you were converted And the mechanic to stop us knowing if there is a conversion.
Where did you come up with that assumption?
I've watched UK, AUS and US show. Not once were they allowed to convert and kill on the same night.
We've been told they had a failed kill attempt.
Why are you making stuff up?
Unless you know something we don't, I won't be working using your conversion assumption, as I think its baseless, and doesn't follow the mechanics that the show uses.
Your time is off I can work under my assumption and you under yours and we can get along famously there is no need to talk at me in that manner.
Do you expect me to believe that the wolves killed inside team 2 or is it that you want me to believe that Zena or another team 2 player shielded someone in team 1. How then did the shield against murder work in all the shows you've watched was it shareable ?
Quote:Posted by Necro - Today, 10:02 AMDo you think Necro is lying? That's a direct quote from Necro.
This morning I must inform you that a player was attacked but managed to shield themselves from any potential murdering that may or may not have occurred.
(17-01-2023, 12:36 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Morning all, working through the task now, stuck on a few but will keep tryingUnfortunately that's why I couldn't vote William. I don't expect I'll convince you but I genuinely planned to not vote, the fact it was a coin flip gave me solace as it added to the game as a whole.
I don't think I'm buying Edwards play last night of wondering should they vote Lily to save themselves or not? Self pres is fair enough but could easily be a wolf trying to save themselves.
(17-01-2023, 12:45 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:I think lying is a bit strong he's reciting a narrative.(17-01-2023, 12:41 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: Or you were converted And the mechanic to stop us knowing if there is a conversion.
Your time is off I can work under my assumption and you under yours and we can get along famously there is no need to talk at me in that manner.
Do you expect me to believe that the wolves killed inside team 2 or is it that you want me to believe that Zena or another team 2 player shielded someone in team 1. How then did the shield against murder work in all the shows you've watched was it shareable ?
Quote:Posted by Necro - Today, 10:02 AMDo you think Necro is lying? That's a direct quote from Necro.
This morning I must inform you that a player was attacked but managed to shield themselves from any potential murdering that may or may not have occurred.
(17-01-2023, 12:41 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: How then did the shield against murder work in all the shows you've watched was it shareable ?
(17-01-2023, 12:49 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:(17-01-2023, 12:45 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Do you think Necro is lying? That's a direct quote from Necro.I think lying is a bit strong he's reciting a narrative.
Yesterdagy he said Mick the drunk was dead but he doesn't exist and he didn't die Its all imagineary
(17-01-2023, 12:46 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:Kinda like how you planned not to do the task yesterday! Ok ok I'll drop it now (just dropping it, not forgetting it)(17-01-2023, 12:36 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Morning all, working through the task now, stuck on a few but will keep tryingUnfortunately that's why I couldn't vote William. I don't expect I'll convince you but I genuinely planned to not vote, the fact it was a coin flip gave me solace as it added to the game as a whole.
I don't think I'm buying Edwards play last night of wondering should they vote Lily to save themselves or not? Self pres is fair enough but could easily be a wolf trying to save themselves.
(17-01-2023, 01:00 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:I have clearly stated that I think the shielding is a cover up of teg game mechanic of conversion.(17-01-2023, 12:49 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: I think lying is a bit strong he's reciting a narrative.
Yesterdagy he said Mick the drunk was dead but he doesn't exist and he didn't die Its all imagineary
hmm.
We are playing a game here. I think we can all grasp that just fine.
The game host, necro is running that game.
Do you believe that the game host is feeding us a false narrative, that we cannot trust?
(17-01-2023, 01:06 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: Farewell Lilly and welcome Amy!Yay info .
Lilly (3): Friar[98], Dora[105], Edward[151]
Edward (3): Moe[107] , Weyland[114], William[138]
William (2): Zeena[104], Gordon[133]
Weyland (1): Lilly[96]
Dora (1): Countess[126]
Non-voters (1): Amy
I won a prize yesterday too, I was allowed to determine whether a traitor voted for the banished player. I used it last night and was informed that at least one of Lilly's voters is a traitor: Friar, Dora and Edward.
(17-01-2023, 01:02 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote:I only did the task because lilly refused Its also what gave me such a strog village read on her(17-01-2023, 12:46 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: Unfortunately that's why I couldn't vote William. I don't expect I'll convince you but I genuinely planned to not vote, the fact it was a coin flip gave me solace as it added to the game as a whole.Kinda like how you planned not to do the task yesterday! Ok ok I'll drop it now (just dropping it, not forgetting it)
What do you think about Dora and Friar?
(17-01-2023, 01:07 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:(17-01-2023, 01:00 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: hmm.I have clearly stated that I think the shielding is a cover up of teg game mechanic of conversion.
We are playing a game here. I think we can all grasp that just fine.
The game host, necro is running that game.
Do you believe that the game host is feeding us a false narrative, that we cannot trust?
I have also stated that it's simply the assumption that I will be basing my logic on so that if someone asks me why I feel a player that I was saying yesterday I strongly read as village I know read as wolf
Well it's because I'm working under the assumption that there was a conversion.
Its a scientific process to make an assumption or group of assumptions and use the. To form an model and then use that model to interpret the unk own using proofs and tests
The unk ow here is who are the wolves and the rules and the game so far create the model I have adapted the model using a new assumption that being that necro has on occasion made false announcements in. Games under the "mods ahabe secrets " clause in rule 2
At this point I feel that you are no longer looking for clarity but are in fact looking to discredit my theory's which is a disengenuous method of solving the game.
Im leaning towards you having the game solved already and just pretending you don't ..
(17-01-2023, 01:17 PM)Weyland the Blacksmith Wrote:Ok but what's the difference, no one is cleared and if they were you can still see them as cleared the only way this is an issue if constance had come back with no wolves on Lilly's wagon and the three were cleared(17-01-2023, 01:07 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: I have clearly stated that I think the shielding is a cover up of teg game mechanic of conversion.
I have also stated that it's simply the assumption that I will be basing my logic on so that if someone asks me why I feel a player that I was saying yesterday I strongly read as village I know read as wolf
Well it's because I'm working under the assumption that there was a conversion.
Its a scientific process to make an assumption or group of assumptions and use the. To form an model and then use that model to interpret the unk own using proofs and tests
The unk ow here is who are the wolves and the rules and the game so far create the model I have adapted the model using a new assumption that being that necro has on occasion made false announcements in. Games under the "mods ahabe secrets " clause in rule 2
At this point I feel that you are no longer looking for clarity but are in fact looking to discredit my theory's which is a disengenuous method of solving the game.
Im leaning towards you having the game solved already and just pretending you don't ..
I can't see Necro saying a shield was used when it wasn't. A protection and a conversion have really different impacts on a game so I don't think we would be led to believe a protection has occurred when a conversion has taken place.
(17-01-2023, 01:37 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: Ok unless I'm needed to answer a question that my flip tonight will not clarify I'm off to play in the snow
I'm a villager
So Dora and or afriar are wolves unless constance is lying
This can easily be confirmed by my flip at this point I'd suggest Dora is more likely
We should structure my flip to see if more info can be gleaned