The Gang Solves The Werewolf Crisis

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Peek - Vernon
Shoot - Ben
Protect - Magda and those magnificent legs.

[Prada the Seamstress]

Dammit. Image of the lynch votes doesn't show on the work PC. This is going to be annoying viewing it from the phone

[Chris the Carpenter]

Peek Vernon
Shoot Kevin
Protect Dexter

Why protect Dexter? What have you read that i missed?

Too relaxed to be a wolf IMO. Maybe that's just their playing style but it reads villager to me

[Kevin the Armorer]

That reads to me that the SK has been given a second kill this morning because they missed out on one yesterday morning. So we're looking for someone who was missing yesterday morning but has been active since.

If I'm right we have as potential SK
Robin
Rhoda
Gordon

Why shoot me if you believe the SK is in here?
I think its near impossible for robin or gordon to be SK, and Rhoda is a no show and will be subbed later or modkilled.

Your SK hunting is terrible, maybe you are SK.

[Chris the Carpenter]

Thats my point, all three were MIA yesterday, which would be in keeping with the SK not putting in their kill order until this morning. 
Maybe you should read the thread more carefully instead throwing out condescending comments?

If you flesh out your theory a bit further you have to include Vernon who only came to life yesterday evening. I think their posting is quite good but they were MIA for most of yesterday as well so in theory should not be discounted.

That being said I believe it's possible the SK was playing all along and decided to go for a double whammy this morning given the timing (one immediately prior to munch, one immediately after), rather than it being simply a case of pinning the tail on the inactive players.

I think if it was Vernon he had plenty of opportunity to strike when Edward was killed. It would take a lot of patience to hold out until this morning.
But obviously it's all conjecture at this point.

I think it's much more important for the village to get the SK at this point and slow the kill rate. I think we should be lynching in that group of three and the vig shooting another.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

morning folks. updated for this morning

[Chris the Carpenter]

If I'm right we have as potential SK
Robin
Rhoda
Gordon

Why shoot me if you believe the SK is in here?
I think its near impossible for robin or gordon to be SK, and Rhoda is a no show and will be subbed later or modkilled.

Your SK hunting is terrible, maybe you are SK.

I believe youre a wolf.
Why is it near impossible for Robin or Gordon to be the SK?
You're probably right on Rhoda. So ill be advocating lynch one, vig shot the other for today

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

re my vote on robin, as i said it was a random choice. i didnt vet before hand to see who hadn't posted.

[Kevin the Armorer]

I’ve never heard of it but is fireball a power?

It really does not fit with the theme, and fits with ben being a newbie that read disney thread.
The kills so far in this game have all been very on theme, but if a flaming fireball should kill me, definitely look further into it.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

There was a total of 13 posts yesterday morning (I didn’t include the middle of the night ones). The only players that would know it was a flavour munch were wolves. 

Maeve (2 posts), Chris (2), Donald (2), Prada (2), Dexter (1), Frank (1), Boris (3). 

Players to interact with Donald - Dexter & Prada. 

Ask yourself if all wolves abstain from posting leading up to a munch. 

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There were 46 posts leading up to Maeve’s poisoning. 

Maeve (1), Boris (5 till midday), Amy (1 after munch), Dexter (6 till 12.30), Prada (13 throughout), Chris (1 after munch), Kevin (9 till midday), Moe (4 till midday), Laura (1 before midday), Pat (3 - 45 min before poison), Ben (3 - before poison)

Make of this what you will

The only players that would know it was a flavour munch were wolves.

from the modpost: Donald the Spoofer is dead. Donald the Spoofer was a Jabroni (among other things)…And a flavour kill

i could well be misunderstading you here....can you explain whats going on here

[Prada the Seamstress]

Ok so first

Player List

Amy the Singer
Benjamin the Alchemist
Betty the Beggar - SK Kill - dead Jabroni
Boris the Fool
Chris the Carpenter
Dexter the Dragoon
Donald the Spoofer - dead Jabroni/flavour kill
Edward the Barber - shot by vig - dead Jabroni
Frank the Tank
Gordon the Cook
Ina May the Midwife - lynched on 3 votes (Prada, Wendy, Vernon) - dead Jabroni
Kevin the Armorer
Laura the Lace Mistress
Maeve the Madam - Poisoned - Dead Village Interrogator
Magda the Maid
Moe the Innkeeper - SK Kill - Dead Jabroni
Pat the Baker
Prada the Seamstress
Rhoda the Spinster
Robin the Jester
Vernon the Ranger
Wendy the Wench - Wolf Munch - Dead Jabroni
William the Grave Robber


Then we add in the votes*:

Ina May - 3 - Prada, Wendy, Vernon - lynched, jabroni
Laura Lace - 2 - Frank, Pat
Benji Alchemist - 2 - Dexter, Betty
Kev Armorer - 2 - Chris, Amy
Prada Seamstress - 1 - Kevin
Wendy Wench - 1 - Benjamin
Moe Innkeeper - 1 - Ina May
Chris Carpenter - 1 - Boris
Magda Maid - 1 - Moe
Betty Beggar - 1 - William
Robin Jester - 1 - Laura

No voters: Gordon, Magda, Robin, Rhoda.

*Colour indicates alignment - Green = Village, Red = Wolf, Orange = SK


Did Moe ever say why he voted Magda? That's my first thought from looking at those votes.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Thats my point, all three were MIA yesterday, which would be in keeping with the SK not putting in their kill order until this morning. 
Maybe you should read the thread more carefully instead throwing out condescending comments?

If you flesh out your theory a bit further you have to include Vernon who only came to life yesterday evening. I think their posting is quite good but they were MIA for most of yesterday as well so in theory should not be discounted.

That being said I believe it's possible the SK was playing all along and decided to go for a double whammy this morning given the timing (one immediately prior to munch, one immediately after), rather than it being simply a case of pinning the tail on the inactive players.

Occam's razor suggests that it is a new player, except what sort of kill was Maeve's then?

[Prada the Seamstress]

If you flesh out your theory a bit further you have to include Vernon who only came to life yesterday evening. I think their posting is quite good but they were MIA for most of yesterday as well so in theory should not be discounted.

That being said I believe it's possible the SK was playing all along and decided to go for a double whammy this morning given the timing (one immediately prior to munch, one immediately after), rather than it being simply a case of pinning the tail on the inactive players.

Occam's razor suggests that it is a new player, except what sort of kill was Maeve's then?

Maeve was given poisoned milk which would indicate the wolves.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Why are they allowed a 2nd kill on the one day?

Anyhoo, never mind. In that case, Occam's razor applies making one of:
- Vernon
- Gordon
-Robin
who are the 3 new players the SK.

Looking at the vibe of the voting (the post there with the green bits highlighted) and seeing who are Jabronis voting, also weirds me out a bit towards Frank, Pat and still, Laura. Feel like Frank is playing the card that everyone is accusing me of playing. If I was "acting thick" I would do it more subtly... fact is I am just thick! But Frank seems to get large parts of the game and then act thick for others.

[Robin the Jester]

[Prada the Seamstress]

Why are they allowed a 2nd kill on the one day?

Anyhoo, never mind. In that case, Occam's razor applies making one of:
- Vernon
- Gordon
-Robin
who are the 3 new players the SK.

Looking at the vibe of the voting (the post there with the green bits highlighted) and seeing who are Jabronis voting, also weirds me out a bit towards Frank, Pat and still, Laura. Feel like Frank is playing the card that everyone is accusing me of playing. If I was "acting thick" I would do it more subtly... fact is I am just thick! But Frank seems to get large parts of the game and then act thick for others.

So the days and nights work differently in Werewolf games.

Everything from 10am up to 8.30pm yesterday evening was Day 1.
8.30 to 10am this morning was Night 1.
10am this morning to 8.30pm tonight is Day 2.

The SK kill just prior to 10am this morning (Night 1) and just after 10am (Day 2).

Which created a sort of 'stack kill' effect. Designed deliberately to create this confusion around them, I would suspect.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

oh and I am meant to play the game Pat suggested.

Sticking with what I said above then
Peek: Frank
Shoot: Pat
Protect: Gosh this is difficult, everyone is a suspect. Barring protecting myself, I probably would protect Prada. Not really sure why.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Why are they allowed a 2nd kill on the one day?

Anyhoo, never mind. In that case, Occam's razor applies making one of:
- Vernon
- Gordon
-Robin
who are the 3 new players the SK.

Looking at the vibe of the voting (the post there with the green bits highlighted) and seeing who are Jabronis voting, also weirds me out a bit towards Frank, Pat and still, Laura. Feel like Frank is playing the card that everyone is accusing me of playing. If I was "acting thick" I would do it more subtly... fact is I am just thick! But Frank seems to get large parts of the game and then act thick for others.

So the days and nights work differently in Werewolf games.

Everything from 10am up to 8.30pm yesterday evening was Day 1.
8.30 to 10am this morning was Night 1.
10am this morning to 8.30pm tonight is Day 2.

The SK kill just prior to 10am this morning (Night 1) and just after 10am (Day 2).

Which created a sort of 'stack kill' effect. Designed deliberately to create this confusion around them, I would suspect.

I got that from the posts alright, but it might also suggest that they were caught on the hop and had to kill twice super quickly. Or, as you say, they are trying to point fingers that way, away from themselves. That would be a difficult to pull off (but genius) play though, because they wouldn't have known there was to be subs til this morning at the munch.

[Robin the Jester]

So the days and nights work differently in Werewolf games.

Everything from 10am up to 8.30pm yesterday evening was Day 1.
8.30 to 10am this morning was Night 1.
10am this morning to 8.30pm tonight is Day 2.

The SK kill just prior to 10am this morning (Night 1) and just after 10am (Day 2).

Which created a sort of 'stack kill' effect. Designed deliberately to create this confusion around them, I would suspect.

I got that from the posts alright, but it might also suggest that they were caught on the hop and had to kill twice super quickly. Or, as you say, they are trying to point fingers that way, away from themselves. That would be a difficult to pull off (but genius) play though, because they wouldn't have known there was to be subs til this morning at the munch.

An experienced player would realise this.

[Chris the Carpenter]

Why are they allowed a 2nd kill on the one day?

Anyhoo, never mind. In that case, Occam's razor applies making one of:
- Vernon
- Gordon
-Robin
who are the 3 new players the SK.

Looking at the vibe of the voting (the post there with the green bits highlighted) and seeing who are Jabronis voting, also weirds me out a bit towards Frank, Pat and still, Laura. Feel like Frank is playing the card that everyone is accusing me of playing. If I was "acting thick" I would do it more subtly... fact is I am just thick! But Frank seems to get large parts of the game and then act thick for others.

If youre including Vernon in the above list then you'll have to include Magda who only came on after lunch yesterday. As I've said, it's unlikely someone would have that kinda patience

[Robin the Jester]

Thanks for all the surmising above and for encouraging me to re-read the opening post to get the details I clearly missed about everything 😂.

First timer but will figure this out as it goes 😄

Its ok, ive played a lot of games and the OP went completely over my head initially

That's some OP! My take so far:

Village rvs
Dennis - seer
Charlie - joat
Frank - vig, says he can save Froggy. No idea who Froggy is.
Mac - bodyguard

Waitress - SK

Wolves:
Dee - peeks good
Ryan McPoyle - milk laced with horse tranquillisers
Liam McPoyle - crest "There’s no telling what it could do. Best we just avoid it." Powerful wolf with different abilities.
OP states they don't know how many McPoyles are out there so likely a few vanilla wolves too.

23 players
4 village RVs
1 SK
3 known wolves

My guess is there's two more wolves.

Id guess 4 wolves with an sk in a 23 player game, either that or 5 and the power wolves aren't that powerful. Here's hoping anyway

Ok so Frank says he is a new player and in the past new players have been picked as wolves so this could be good call.

Alternatively you could be a wolf and are trying to throw a new player under a bus which is bad form.

Roles are randed, I wouldn't sign up to a game if it wasnt. We've had multiple new players in recent games, 3 in 4 in recent games weren't wolves. This is lazy analysis

Hi folks, apologies here, was travelling today and had a delay in the airport with two impatient kids. Literally in the door.

Apologies to everyone and the mods. Will be active tomorrow, can hopefully add a bit to the village

Someone mentioned interaction charts in the deadroom once, does anyone know how to do that? We're in an information vaacuum right now, might give some insight, at least for later in the game

Its day 1, interaction charts are useless particularly given you dont know who the wolves are, its never worth looking at until later in the game in my opinion

I'll be looking into Vernon and Moe on my first read back, briefly skimmed the thread yesterday and that's my initial two names.

On a side note, anyone any suggestions on getting around a work firewall for this site? Painful on the phone

These are @Magda the Maid posts to date.

RE: Patience - you might not have patience to wait to use it - an experienced player might just to brew further confusion. Day 1 with very little to go on you would want to use as much info as possible to try hit a role.
As a village we are doing fairly sh*t in this game so far, but at least we haven't lost any of our major roles.
I find @Chris the Carpenter strategy to just take out the subbed in players because of his belief that one might be roled not a very village tactic to be quite honest. We need to look at all possibilities and not just tunnel on one.

[Robin the Jester]

Morning all

Hey @Amy the Singer I don't think anyone said Good Morning to you.
What song do you have for us today?

[Frank the Tank]

oh and I am meant to play the game Pat suggested.

Sticking with what I said above then
Peek: Frank
Shoot: Pat
Protect: Gosh this is difficult, everyone is a suspect. Barring protecting myself, I probably would protect Prada. Not really sure why.

Not sure why you're hung up on myself, but sure look. It's all just opinions at this stage. I'd say your own behaviour has been a bit more varied and you're not afraid to throw names about. Either just genuinely guessing or you know youre safe from munching. 


If I had to choose I'd go with the following:
Peak: Ben - worth finding out at this stage but could just he villager
Shoot: Prada perhaps? Just based on confidence so far
Protect: Dexter - enjoying their japes quite a bit 😄

Anyways will need to think more really, hard to get a read on everybody.

[Chris the Carpenter]

You dont like it because youre one of the people involved but from a village POV it makes sense.

You say tunnelling but this is just my theory, people are free to propose alternatives.
Like I said, you don't like this one because it means killing you but I think it's hard to argue with the rationale

[Prada the Seamstress]

oh and I am meant to play the game Pat suggested.

Sticking with what I said above then
Peek: Frank
Shoot: Pat
Protect: Gosh this is difficult, everyone is a suspect. Barring protecting myself, I probably would protect Prada. Not really sure why.

Not sure why you're hung up on myself, but sure look. It's all just opinions at this stage. I'd say your own behaviour has been a bit more varied and you're not afraid to throw names about. Either just genuinely guessing or you know youre safe from munching. 


If I had to choose I'd go with the following:
Peak: Ben - worth finding out at this stage but could just he villager
Shoot: Prada perhaps? Just based on confidence so far
Protect: Dexter - enjoying their japes quite a bit 😄

Anyways will need to think more really, hard to get a read on everybody.

Replace Sack with Shoot to get my sentiments on that




I made the BBC!

[Kevin the Armorer]

Why shoot me if you believe the SK is in here?
I think its near impossible for robin or gordon to be SK, and Rhoda is a no show and will be subbed later or modkilled.

Your SK hunting is terrible, maybe you are SK.

I believe youre a wolf.
Why is it near impossible for Robin or Gordon to be the SK?
You're probably right on Rhoda. So ill be advocating lynch one, vig shot the other for today

because they only entered the game at 10:00 and the sk struck at 9:59.
explain that to me so.

[Robin the Jester]

You dont like it because youre one of the people involved but from a village POV it makes sense.

You say tunnelling but this is just my theory, people are free to propose alternatives.
Like I said, you don't like this one because it means killing you but I think it's hard to argue with the rationale

I don't like it - yes because you want to kill me based on a hunch that is incorrect, and you also don't seem open to considering any alternatives.
I don't think the mods would be as obvious as that tbqh.
There are other rationale for why SK would hit like that. I do not necessarily disagree with Magda being the SK btw.
All I know is that I am village and you are barking up the wrong tree with me.

[Robin the Jester]

I believe youre a wolf.
Why is it near impossible for Robin or Gordon to be the SK?
You're probably right on Rhoda. So ill be advocating lynch one, vig shot the other for today

because they only entered the game at 10:00 and the sk struck at 9:59.
explain that to me so.

Thank you! I didn't enter the game until 10am. I wasn't allowed post or do anything until after the munch post by the mods. Therefore, I couldn't have issued a SK order as I wasn't part of the game until 10am.

[Chris the Carpenter]

I believe youre a wolf.
Why is it near impossible for Robin or Gordon to be the SK?
You're probably right on Rhoda. So ill be advocating lynch one, vig shot the other for today

because they only entered the game at 10:00 and the sk struck at 9:59.
explain that to me so.

They were announced at 10. I think it's safe to assume they were lined up at some stage since much last nite.  
Maybe the timing of the announcement is important,  it was added with the munch announcement.

[Chris the Carpenter]

You dont like it because youre one of the people involved but from a village POV it makes sense.

You say tunnelling but this is just my theory, people are free to propose alternatives.
Like I said, you don't like this one because it means killing you but I think it's hard to argue with the rationale

I don't like it - yes because you want to kill me based on a hunch that is incorrect, and you also don't seem open to considering any alternatives.
I don't think the mods would be as obvious as that tbqh.
There are other rationale for why SK would hit like that. I do not necessarily disagree with Magda being the SK btw.
All I know is that I am village and you are barking up the wrong tree with me.

What alternatives am I not considering? Im open to any theory,  to date mine is the only one put forward!

[Chris the Carpenter]

because they only entered the game at 10:00 and the sk struck at 9:59.
explain that to me so.

Thank you! I didn't enter the game until 10am. I wasn't allowed post or do anything until after the munch post by the mods. Therefore, I couldn't have issued a SK order as I wasn't part of the game until 10am.

Why did you not mention that point earlier? 
Seems like the most obvious port of call rather than waiting for a third party to suggest it?

Im suspicious of Kevin defending you,  if he is a wolf then it's not in his interests to go SK hunting

[Robin the Jester]

Thank you! I didn't enter the game until 10am. I wasn't allowed post or do anything until after the munch post by the mods. Therefore, I couldn't have issued a SK order as I wasn't part of the game until 10am.

Why did you not mention that point earlier? 
Seems like the most obvious port of call rather than waiting for a third party to suggest it?

Im suspicious of Kevin defending you,  if he is a wolf then it's not in his interests to go SK hunting

I had PM'd the mod to ask if I could.
I only mentioned it once I received a response back.

We were lined up beforehand, I had a message when I woke up this morning asking me. However, I was told I would not be entering the game until 10am.

[Chris the Carpenter]

Why did you not mention that point earlier? 
Seems like the most obvious port of call rather than waiting for a third party to suggest it?

Im suspicious of Kevin defending you,  if he is a wolf then it's not in his interests to go SK hunting

I had PM'd the mod to ask if I could.
I only mentioned it once I received a response back.

We were lined up beforehand, I had a message when I woke up this morning asking me. However, I was told I would not be entering the game until 10am.

You'll understand when I call that convenient

[Robin the Jester]

If I was a SK, why would I come onto the thread quoting a song called "My Shot" when a SK was active? That would have been stupid.
You seem to be twisting everything to fit the narrative that it must 100% be either me or Gordon. There's nothing else I can say to prove to you that it isn't me.
I'm not engaging with this discussion any further.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

because they only entered the game at 10:00 and the sk struck at 9:59.
explain that to me so.

Thank you! I didn't enter the game until 10am. I wasn't allowed post or do anything until after the munch post by the mods. Therefore, I couldn't have issued a SK order as I wasn't part of the game until 10am.

would be inclined to agree here, however for the sake of covering all bases, a placeholder hit could have been ordered and then a replacement found. 

here's the timeline.

[lorcand1990]

A player has been given poisoned milk

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

There was a total of 13 posts yesterday morning (I didn’t include the middle of the night ones). The only players that would know it was a flavour munch were wolves. 

Maeve (2 posts), Chris (2), Donald (2), Prada (2), Dexter (1), Frank (1), Boris (3). 

Players to interact with Donald - Dexter & Prada. 

Ask yourself if all wolves abstain from posting leading up to a munch. 

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There were 46 posts leading up to Maeve’s poisoning. 

Maeve (1), Boris (5 till midday), Amy (1 after munch), Dexter (6 till 12.30), Prada (13 throughout), Chris (1 after munch), Kevin (9 till midday), Moe (4 till midday), Laura (1 before midday), Pat (3 - 45 min before poison), Ben (3 - before poison)

Make of this what you will

The only players that would know it was a flavour munch were wolves.

from the modpost: Donald the Spoofer is dead. Donald the Spoofer was a Jabroni (among other things)…And a flavour kill

i could well be misunderstading you here....can you explain whats going on here

yo vernon, whats up

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

A player has been given poisoned milk

so this is our village vig. so far the only person to kill a roled villager 

[lorcand1990]

@Pat the Baker wasn't much of a drinker, so they thought they were safe when they had a glass of milk to wash down their afternoon slice of bread

Alas, the milk was so viciously poisoned that they died instantly

@Pat the Baker is dead

[Prada the Seamstress]

A player has been given poisoned milk

so this is our village vig. so far the only person to kill a roled villager 

Eh... no pretty sure that's a wolf vig Laura...