Disney Classics Werewolf

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Vote blocking ^^

[Countess Markievicz]

do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.

[Necro]

Fresh from his kill of his nephew and bitter rival, Scar used his prize without mercy.

He set upon Gordon the Cook and ripped off his arms.

There would be no more idiot sandwiches on his watch. 

When he finished playing with his prey he consumed the rest of the beleaguered chef. 

Piece by piece.

@Gordon the Cook is dead.




Gordon was...



Belle - Village Truth Reader

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Dora had it out for Amy and had a small list of village leaning people nothing too insightful unless imm issuing something.

Dora likely got her first peek today so wouldn't have had a lot of real information.

[Countess Markievicz]

WTAF

[Jacob the Tailor]

Fresh from his kill of his nephew and bitter rival, Scar used his prize without mercy.

He set upon Gordon the Cook and ripped off his arms.

There would be no more idiot sandwiches on his watch. 

When he finished playing with his prey he consumed the rest of the beleaguered chef. 

Piece by piece.

@Gordon the Cook is dead.




Gordon was...



Belle - Village Truth Reader

What the feck

[Lilly the Millennial]

Voting Results Night 1:

Time for wagonomics.
4 wolves. There will be a couple on Oprah, and possibly one on Amy, and one off wagon.

[Countess Markievicz]

[Raymond the Shoemaker]

do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.

I'm going to say the village Frostbinder was probably good Countess. FFS.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Ah here!

[Countess Markievicz]

@Amy the Singer why you vote lilly?

[Lilly the Millennial]

Ah I can't keep up!

[Countess Markievicz]

sorry, of course friar is good....village frostbinder

[Lilly the Millennial]

do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.

Elsa is a Disney princess so flavour would suggest village.

[Vincent the Artist]

Does village as an adjective indicate good? Or is it just a general term?

[Lilly the Millennial]

Does village as an adjective indicate good? Or is it just a general term?

Yes good, or a member of the village (not a wolf).

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Why so many deaths on the first night!

[Raymond the Shoemaker]

Does village as an adjective indicate good? Or is it just a general term?

Village is good. The village are the good side. The wolves and Scar the Serial Killer are bad.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

6 V 4 v 1 😩

5 V 4 v 1 potentially in the morning

Really need a perfect run tomorrow,

And for Scar to hit a wolf

Wolves can't win on Parity with village alone, they need to hit Scar.

Wolf Team: Gain parity with the village and kill Scar.

Scar: Gain parity with the village and wolf team.

Village: Kill all baddies.

[Vincent the Artist]

Thanks @Lilly the Millennial and @Raymond the Shoemaker . I just wanted to confirm because I thought there was some ambiguity earlier around Friar Tuck.

So we've lost 4 villagers - 3 roled of which 2 had hidden roles. That's some strike rate

[Countess Markievicz]

for scar, the SK usually tries to keep a low profile so as not to draw a lynch or munch. non-committal and non-confrontational for the most part is what i'd look for.

hopefully the wolves just munch him.

as for the wolves, not much can be garnered by the votes. too many on oprah.

[McDonald the Farmer]

Thanks @Lilly the Millennial and @Raymond the Shoemaker . I just wanted to confirm because I thought there was some ambiguity earlier around Friar Tuck.

So we've lost 4 villagers - 3 roled of which 2 had hidden roles. That's some strike rate

With the two hidden roles that have been revealed, I don't think my reason for the veto seems plausible anymore.
veto rescinded.

[Raymond the Shoemaker]

for scar, the SK usually tries to keep a low profile so as not to draw a lynch or munch. non-committal and non-confrontational for the most part is what i'd look for.

hopefully the wolves just munch him.

as for the wolves, not much can be garnered by the votes. too many on oprah.

I don't thnk that's true. Two of the dead villagers seemed to have roles related to seeing, so their posts matter. Dora voted for Amy and Gordon voted for me. 

Doesn't necessarily mean they voted for wolves, as they may have peeked someone else as good and then reevaluated and voted for someone else, but interestingly neither was on Oprah.

[Vincent the Artist]

What does a veto do? Can't find it in the glossary

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Post counts as of now...

Total Posts: 503
User # Posts
Dexter the Dragoon 97
Boris the Fool 86
Raymond the Shoemaker 38
Lilly the Millennial 36
Jacob the Tailor 34
Gordon the Cook 31
McDonald the Farmer 29
Countess Markievicz 28
Oprah the Gossip 28
Amy the Singer 23
Dora the Explorer 20
Moe the Innkeeper 12
Zeena Warrior Princess 10
Vincent the Artist 9
Friar Tuck 7

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Peak is usually a night action, do we think Dora got a peak during the extended day? Typically it's given straight after Lynch? Could be possible that Scar didn't like some of their posts rather than role hunting.

I presumed incorrectly that Scar would go for Mac/Jacob because of the veto post. They didn't even go that way the second time.

[McDonald the Farmer]

What does a veto do? Can't find it in the glossary

There was a proposal for Jacob to be shot earlier. I veto'd that decision, meaning i don't think it should go ahead, because i have my reasons. Ray pushed me on my reasons, but i believed that i should not say anything more, as that would be detrimental to the village.
It's not really a ww term, more a general term, so don't expect it in the glossary.

[Vincent the Artist]

Ah right. I follow now.

[Boris the Fool]

What does a veto do? Can't find it in the glossary

There was a proposal for Jacob to be shot earlier. I veto'd that decision, meaning i don't think it should go ahead, because i have my reasons. Ray pushed me on my reasons, but i believed that i should not say anything more, as that would be detrimental to the village.
It's not really a ww term, more a general term, so don't expect it in the glossary.

Yeah that was me that put forward Jacob as a shot target this morning

[McDonald the Farmer]

On Jafar, I don't think they have fireballs to shoot around, as their main power. I think that is just a reactionary effect, if the powers thief happens to try to steal Jafars powers.

What powers thief? Also I don't think there is anything to suggest it is only reactionary.

He has multiple powers, fireball being one of them, that kill.
There is something special with Aladdin - only for Aladdin, tied to another player as other have suggested sound more likely maybe?

Jafar is one of the greatest and most villainous sorcerers in the land. His powers will be deadly, ruthless, and are numerous. Aladdin should steer clear of his fireball…

What do you think now?

[Amy the Singer]

Back home and had a quick read back. Total carnage. I can see a fair amount of heat on me and I'm going to go back and try to address everything raised against me. I swear to ye I am village. As I mentioned I'm far busier than I expected to be and while I'd usually say flip me and move on, flipping me will screw the village so not a good option.

[Amy the Singer]

Honestly right now Amy is my biggest red flag.

Much as I don't like Gordon's declare two votes plan, which completely contradicts his earlier  devils advocating of an ongoing tally of votes, I don't see a wolf being that noisy and drawing that much heat early on.

Earlier I thought Amy had done detailed ISOs of Lilly and me to support us as top two suspect but that was actually Dexter and she just stated she had done an ISO and we were top two. Now several hours later she is taking notes when she said approx half three she would be home in an hour to post her ISOs she'd already done. Added to that she was very quick to jump on Gordon's frankly terrible two votes declaration which only benefits wolves. It's not a good look.

Wasn't a fan of Oprah's posts towards Xeena but not enough to vote there. The more they post the more I don't like it. Very defensive, saying people who posted before them are parroting them is ridiculous. Don't see much attempt at wolf hunting.

Lilly still towards the top of my suspicions also. Conflicted as to whether they were putting pressure or role hunting, although same could be said of me.

There's a few floating middle people not making much of an impression, which worries me a bit. Friar, Moe, Countess.

Good for me are Boris, Mc and Jacob.

To get back to you on this. I did do detailed ISOs (which was much easier this morning). If you actually read the notes I posted you can see my thoughts developed over the course of the day and I moved you off my list of suspects.

[Lilly the Millennial]

What powers thief? Also I don't think there is anything to suggest it is only reactionary.

He has multiple powers, fireball being one of them, that kill.
There is something special with Aladdin - only for Aladdin, tied to another player as other have suggested sound more likely maybe?

What do you think now?

There is nothing in the OP to suggest the fireball is reactionary. It reads to me as a specific power. 

Jafar is one of the greatest and most villainous sorcerers in the land. His powers will be deadly, ruthless, and are numerous. Aladdin should steer clear of his fireball…

[Amy the Singer]

Based on my notes my #FFA:

Lily
Jacob
Countess M

I'm going to put my vote in for Lily.

You're notes are incorrect on me. I never said Oprah was sowing confusion. So either you say you are taking notes and biding time to look like a helpful villager or youre a wolf who is pretending to be helpful but still messing up their ffas. How many times have you said you have taken notes?

 So I read back again. I did mess up in saying you said it was Oprah but you did say that someone was 'sowing confusion'. It was the words that stood out as an echo of Dex's, which is noted in the notes that you seem to doubt I'm taking but posted earlier.

[McDonald the Farmer]

What do you think now?

There is nothing in the OP to suggest the fireball is reactionary. It reads to me as a specific power. 

Jafar is one of the greatest and most villainous sorcerers in the land. His powers will be deadly, ruthless, and are numerous. Aladdin should steer clear of his fireball…

powers thief should steer clear says to me that it's reactionary, if thief was to try steal from jafar, they would get a fireball in the face.

[Amy the Singer]

Have read back and ISOd everyone. From my notes, Lily and Ray are suspicious. Both of them emphasise the peeking good wolf, which tbh is almost standard in most games these days so not really worth noting. It's mostly tone reading for me - neither come across as sincere, it feels forced.

That said, my notes on others are largely 'unsure' because it's D1 and there's the usual amount of nothing to go on.

@Gordon the Cook

I agree with you on FFAs and vote declarations. Time and 2 names should cover it.
FFAs should come with reasons and not just names too.

It was in response to Gordon's suggestion about how to declare votes without declaring votes to prevent a Cruella kill via tie. I liked the suggestion but am not married to it. I cant see the wolves orchestrating a tie but I can see them taking advantage of one that develops naturally.

Am away from my computer so dont have my full notes handy but be back home in an hour and can give full details then. 
My read on you was a bit spatty but not afraid to challenge and engaging with thread a lot. On Oprah I noted that I didn't really see what others were seeing in terms of sowing confusion but they were fixated on Cruella which they acknowledged themselves.

Heading out in a few. Notes below.

Boris the Fool Bit spatty.Contributing. Sort of agree on the OTT thing. Engaged and challening people. Wouldn't vote here for now.

Countess Markievicz Measured. Unsure here. Not a lot of posts throughout the day. Doesn't feel like village game but they've been v quiet.

Dexter the Dragoon High poster. If wolf, Hans. Likely to draw munch or be peeked. Bit all over the place which makes me think village.

Dora the Explorer 1 Post but has done the maths. ISOd Friar Tuck. Why them? More posts today. Analysing with conclusions. If wolf, doing a lot of work. Not sure I agree on Dex but working. I'm on FFA but currently reading through my posts - cart before horse? 

Friar Tuck Dora doesn't like posts but not seeing a lot here. Very low posting. Be good to hear more.

Gordon the Cook Mostly leaning good here. Observant and engaged. Putting thoughts out there.

Jacob the Tailor Exactly 5 posts yesterday. Tone reading - seems a bit stating the obvious. Bit off. Also says Oprah sowing confusion. Is this not echoing what Dex said?  Collusion in BR?

Lilly the Millennial Unsure of opening post. Something a bit off there tonewise. Post about post counts. Spotted thing on powers thief. Quotes without names thing. Shoot @McD, peek @Dex. Quite defensive in responses today. Can't shake the tone being off.

McDonald the Farmer What's with the powers thief? I read it as apprentice. Seems to be just reading and reacting. Aggressive enough. Not sure about the just 2 on FFA thing. Overall neutral to village for me.

Moe the Innkeeper 1 Post but experienced enough. Limited posts today. Hard to get a read but asking questions and gave reads on readback. Again would like to hear more.

Oprah the Gossip Are they sowing confusion? Not sure I agree with that read. The are 'tunnelling' on Cruella - easy place to boost post counts. Defensive enough. One to watch.

Raymond the Shoemaker Paying attention, corrected Dex. Unfinished post? Says something v similar to Lily about wolf peeking good. Suggests discussions around vote tallying are OTT. Not against discussion but manner of it. Questions McD on Jacob veto. Definitely aware of what's happening but posts today read better tonewise.

Based on my notes my #FFA:

Lily
Jacob
Countess M

I'm going to put my vote in for Lily.

It's a tone reading thing. Feels like forced sincerity. Largely gut and vote hasn't gone for you.

If the best you’ve got is me mentioning Hans peeking good that’s like accusing me for saying good morning for an opening post on D0. It’s standard, it’s nothing. Also, I have looked back and more than 2 players mentioned the peek good wolf, so passing that of as fact is disingenuous. 

You haven't engaged with me at all, and yet you are reading my "tone."  Tone reads are pure gut and subjective — and my tone here is exactly how I play village when we’ve got nothing but scraps on D1. 

What is wolfy is ISO’ing everyone, claiming ‘unsure’ on the majority, and then planting suspicion on two easy targets without pushing anywhere risky. That’s the kind of safe shade a wolf throws when they don’t want to be caught.

This is nonsense. It's Day 1, of course I'm unsure on the majority. The only person whose alignment I know is my own. How exactly are you an "easy target" compared to anyone else?  I'm not a wolf so I don't need to worry about being caught.

[Amy the Singer]

19:40 moving my vote to amy.  goes on about notes a lot, but then even with note, say jake is saying oprah is sowing confusion, when jake said amy was sowing confusion. so even her notes on sowing confusion were sowing confusion.

I made a mistake but Jacob used those exact words, just not about Oprah.

[Amy the Singer]

@Amy the Singer why you vote lilly?

Mainly gut instinct. Their posts read to 'I'm a villager, swearsies' for me. I've nothing concrete, but it's Day 1 and as it turns out based on lynch, I'm not the only one.

[Amy the Singer]

for scar, the SK usually tries to keep a low profile so as not to draw a lynch or munch. non-committal and non-confrontational for the most part is what i'd look for.

hopefully the wolves just munch him.

as for the wolves, not much can be garnered by the votes. too many on oprah.

I don't thnk that's true. Two of the dead villagers seemed to have roles related to seeing, so their posts matter. Dora voted for Amy and Gordon voted for me. 

Doesn't necessarily mean they voted for wolves, as they may have peeked someone else as good and then reevaluated and voted for someone else, but interestingly neither was on Oprah.

What's the significance of neither on Oprah do you think?

[Countess Markievicz]

If the best you’ve got is me mentioning Hans peeking good that’s like accusing me for saying good morning for an opening post on D0. It’s standard, it’s nothing. Also, I have looked back and more than 2 players mentioned the peek good wolf, so passing that of as fact is disingenuous. 

You haven't engaged with me at all, and yet you are reading my "tone."  Tone reads are pure gut and subjective — and my tone here is exactly how I play village when we’ve got nothing but scraps on D1. 

What is wolfy is ISO’ing everyone, claiming ‘unsure’ on the majority, and then planting suspicion on two easy targets without pushing anywhere risky. That’s the kind of safe shade a wolf throws when they don’t want to be caught.

This is nonsense. It's Day 1, of course I'm unsure on the majority. The only person whose alignment I know is my own. How exactly are you an "easy target" compared to anyone else?  I'm not a wolf so I don't need to worry about being caught.

what about scar?