The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[E.N.]

MOD NOTE

Humble apologies, it appears one of the victims of this morning's massacre was, in fact, alive! In my defence, they looked dead, but then they started screaming "tis just a flesh wound" which I initially ignored as that's a different film. But they insisted they want to continue fighting, so please shortly welcome Vincent the Artist to proceedings...!

(Please note this was just a straight mess-up on my part as I missed someone who hadn't arrived yet, don't read anything into their arrival method)

[Pat the Baker]

you best explain how i answered a question meant for pat. 

i picked up on something and commented on it.

I commented on the time but here's the quoted posts

I am merely saying that fear can lead to aggression as easily as 'badness' and am asking Ina and Wendy for their thoughts on that. I was hoping their response might help to clarify which way they are leaning.

In truth, none of us are perfect. I, too, have wrestled with self doubt. But Pat… I do wonder about you. You came into this company with words of wolves and how few there might be. I cannot help but question whether you already knew their number, and sought to appear as one unknowing.

wha? im good so have not wrestled with self doubt. odd post.

What I think happened here is William saw Vernon say they have self doubt, and thought it was an unusual thing for Vernon to say. I'm only answering because it kinda relates to me, before anyone starts!

Easiest way to clear this up is to yeet William to prove we are not linked! 

[Ina May the Midwife]

Yeah, seems like it would be very difficult for the village. One thought I had was that there could be a dual account wolf? How would that play out in the numbers. I don't think it works though.

@William the Grave Robber answering a question meant for @Pat the Baker just niggled at me that there could be dual identities floating about but I think the amount of accounts eliminated probably rules it out so I've parked it. I think.

you best explain how i answered a question meant for pat. 

i picked up on something and commented on it.

I commented on the time but here's the quoted posts

so where's the question i answered that was meant for pat?


i picked the following out of vernon's post and replied as follows:

vernon: In truth, none of us are perfect. I, too, have wrestled with self doubt.

me: wha? im good so have not wrestled with self doubt. odd post.

The part after that was aimed at Pat, it just looked a bit odd to me. I see your reasoning and it makes sense but at the time to me it looked like you were answering for him for some reason.

We live and learn as they say.

[Ina May the Midwife]

So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

[Vernon the Ranger]

I'm stuck on the recruitment idea so I think 11 v 3 v 1 with one recruitment later in the game to keep wolf numbers up.

[Vernon the Ranger]

Sorry I meant 12 v 3 v 1 with a recruitment at some point.

[Edward the Barber]

So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

Yea that looks to be the case, can't see there being more given the numbers

[Pat the Baker]

So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

Depends on balance & specific powers from those numbers

12 v 3 v 1 makes more sense to me, but if wolves have few powers & village have more, could be 11 v 4 v 1

[Mick the Drunk]

I commented on the time but here's the quoted posts

so where's the question i answered that was meant for pat?


i picked the following out of vernon's post and replied as follows:

vernon: In truth, none of us are perfect. I, too, have wrestled with self doubt.

me: wha? im good so have not wrestled with self doubt. odd post.

To be honest your reply read as if you thought that post was aimed at you and you were responding to it, it in no ways reads like you describe above so I don't blame Ina for picking it up the she did as I picked it up the exact same way.

[Magda the Maid]

So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

I think 12 v 3 V 1 makes more sense personally 

4:1 plus SK 

5 kills for a village win from 11 players seems just a little bit too much for me.

That would be just my opinion though and I would be working on that assumption, but I'm not going to discount the possibility that there is 4

[Magda the Maid]

So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

Gonna note this post as a villagery post here, I don't think a wolf would be so quick to state that their opinion is that there would be an extra wolf with the adjusted numbers.

[Pat the Baker]

So 16 left, not 15.

Also happy resurrection day @Vincent the Artist

Does that change our calculations?

11 v 4 v 1 seems more plausible tbh

Yea that looks to be the case, can't see there being more given the numbers

You've completely discounted there could be 3 so?

[Magda the Maid]

^ that's not to say it couldn't happen and that Ina is village. Just the post is a villagery post.

[William the Grave Robber]

I'm stuck on the recruitment idea so I think 11 v 3 v  1 with one recruitment later in the game to keep wolf numbers up.

if there is a mechanic like that, i think it will be more a turn rather than being recruited.

someone mentioned it above, and i like it: use the power of the ring too much and you become a wraith. 

i wouldnt get bogged down on this right now though, cos i'm assuming if its in the game it'll be announced if a conversion takes place.

[Pat the Baker]

I think it's quite possible, i did mention it here


I also think that Pat raised a good point that would also back that up, the wording in OP's are deliberate

Ah, indeed you did. My apologies, your post escaped my notice. Unfortunately I cannot grant this the full measure of my attention. For now, I but skim the surface. When my day quietens , I shall return and read the thread more thoroughly.

Could you also reply to my question to you please when you come back

Thats 2 players who have shaded me but when I ask for reasons it's like pulling teeth

[Vernon the Ranger]

Ah, indeed you did. My apologies, your post escaped my notice. Unfortunately I cannot grant this the full measure of my attention. For now, I but skim the surface. When my day quietens , I shall return and read the thread more thoroughly.

Could you also reply to my question to you please when you come back

Thats 2 players who have shaded me but when I ask for reasons it's like pulling teeth

Which question?

[Frank the Tank]

Is converting, or anything like it, something that happens in Lord of the Rings?

It's usually something that gets announced on thread anyway. But this game you wouldn't be sure cause we've very little to go on so far

No. The ring itself is a force for evil though and everyone who carries it is affected by that.

Isildur didn't cast the ring into Mount Doom because he was corrupted by its power.
The ring then betrayed Isildur and eventually fell to Smeagol/Gollum who became corrupted by its power.
Bilbo Baggins then stole the ring from Gollum and also became affected (though to a lesser extent) by the ring.
Then it passed to Frodo who also demonstrated at times that he was affected by it.

Not all characters were affected by the ring though. Some could resist it's power. Cate Blanchett turned it down when offered it by Frodo didn't she?

[Pat the Baker]

I am merely saying that fear can lead to aggression as easily as 'badness' and am asking Ina and Wendy for their thoughts on that. I was hoping their response might help to clarify which way they are leaning.

In truth, none of us are perfect. I, too, have wrestled with self doubt. But Pat… I do wonder about you. You came into this company with words of wolves and how few there might be. I cannot help but question whether you already knew their number, and sought to appear as one unknowing.

Interesting. How few wolves did I say there would be?

But yes, I did start the game by talking about wolves. That's the point of the game

This one Vern

[Ina May the Midwife]

No. The ring itself is a force for evil though and everyone who carries it is affected by that.

Isildur didn't cast the ring into Mount Doom because he was corrupted by its power.
The ring then betrayed Isildur and eventually fell to Smeagol/Gollum who became corrupted by its power.
Bilbo Baggins then stole the ring from Gollum and also became affected (though to a lesser extent) by the ring.
Then it passed to Frodo who also demonstrated at times that he was affected by it.

Not all characters were affected by the ring though. Some could resist it's power. Cate Blanchett turned it down when offered it by Frodo didn't she?

Galadriel foreshadowed that she would be corrupted if she took the ring correct. But ultimately refused it.

Gandalf also turned it down, knowing that if he tried to use it for good it would corrupt even him.

[Magda the Maid]

Vote gone in on William, the posts last night, plus todays postings and now trying to shut discussion down

[Frank the Tank]

Why jabronis? Why wouldn't you use hobbits?

[Frank the Tank]

Why jabronis? Why wouldn't you use hobbits?

For the more knowledge among us in the way of lotr, what sort of special powers could we expect? How many of us jabronies would there be and how many special ones? I'm guessing 3 with powers and 8 jabronies. I wonder will they tell us when powers have been used.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Jabronis is possibly a hangover from the last game?

[Ina May the Midwife]

I've a vote from earlier in on Betty I just can't shake the niggle there

[Magda the Maid]

Why jabronis? Why wouldn't you use hobbits?

For the more knowledge among us in the way of lotr, what sort of special powers could we expect? How many of us jabronies would there be and how many special ones? I'm guessing 3 with powers and 8 jabronies. I wonder will they tell us when powers have been used.

A Hobbit would be a character no? I wonder if this was a way to get around this rule:

Allow yourself to fully adopt your character persona and do your utmost to conceal your RL identity. Do not share private messages, screenshots, or any other non-public information about the game either in the thread or outside it while the game is ongoing. Do not discuss the game outside of this thread and the designated backroom. Avoid character reveals

Looks like they are going out of their way to shout they are good

[Vernon the Ranger]

Interesting. How few wolves did I say there would be?

But yes, I did start the game by talking about wolves. That's the point of the game

This one Vern

I don't know. You spoke swiftly of One Wolf. It struck me as strange, as though you were feigning ignorance of how many truly roam these lands. Not the simple pondering of one who weighs the numbers of players and the balance then of wolves. But rather the tone of one eager to seem unknowing, as if to say, “Surely I am no wolf.”

[Pat the Baker]

This one Vern

I don't know. You spoke swiftly of One Wolf. It struck me as strange, as though you were feigning ignorance of how many truly roam these lands. Not the simple pondering of one who weighs the numbers of players and the balance then of wolves. But rather the tone of one eager to seem unknowing, as if to say, “Surely I am no wolf.”

I spoke siwiftly of one wolf? Can you put that in plain English please? Are you implying that I said there is one wolf in this game? Cause that didn't happen.

I've explained this many times now and it's really strange how it keeps getting brought up to shade me. Do I need to explain again what I was saying in my first post?

[Magda the Maid]

I've a vote from earlier in on Betty I just can't shake the niggle there

Have you looked at anyone else? Any others coming onto your radar? Or are you just focused on Betty?

[Vernon the Ranger]

Why jabronis? Why wouldn't you use hobbits?

My understanding is we're not permitted to reveal ourseleves as hobbits, elves, men or any other character type. I used Jabroni as I saw it used on reading a previous werewolf. I realise now it was poorly chosen. I'll just use NRVs in future.

[Magda the Maid]

Why jabronis? Why wouldn't you use hobbits?

My understanding is we're not permitted to reveal ourseleves as hobbits, elves, men or any other character type. I used Jabroni as I saw it used on reading a previous werewolf. I realise now it was poorly chosen. I'll just use NRVs in future.

Really not sure if this is TWTBAW or not 

[Mick the Drunk]

Why jabronis? Why wouldn't you use hobbits?

My understanding is we're not permitted to reveal ourseleves as hobbits, elves, men or any other character type. I used Jabroni as I saw it used on reading a previous werewolf. I realise now it was poorly chosen. I'll just use NRVs in future.

Have you played much?

[Vernon the Ranger]

I don't know. You spoke swiftly of One Wolf. It struck me as strange, as though you were feigning ignorance of how many truly roam these lands. Not the simple pondering of one who weighs the numbers of players and the balance then of wolves. But rather the tone of one eager to seem unknowing, as if to say, “Surely I am no wolf.”

I spoke siwiftly of one wolf? Can you put that in plain English please? Are you implying that I said there is one wolf in this game? Cause that didn't happen.

I've explained this many times now and it's really strange how it keeps getting brought up to shade me. Do I need to explain again what I was saying in my first post?

You said 
"Just the one wolf and a serial killer mentioned in the first post? Guessing there are more wolves".
This was simply untrue. They spoke of “wolves” in the plural, more than once. And to say one is merely guessing there are more wolves feels hollow. Guessing? Of course there are more. There was never going to be a lone wolf, such a thing would not make sense.
It reads as though you strain to seem blind to the truth of their number — yet I suspect you knew full well how many there are.

[Edward the Barber]

Yea that looks to be the case, can't see there being more given the numbers

You've completely discounted there could be 3 so?

How does 'that looks to be the case' equal 'completely discounted'?

I think 4 wolves is the worst case for us, better to work from that than think there are 3 and be surprised there is another

[Frank the Tank]

Why jabronis? Why wouldn't you use hobbits?

A Hobbit would be a character no? I wonder if this was a way to get around this rule:

Allow yourself to fully adopt your character persona and do your utmost to conceal your RL identity. Do not share private messages, screenshots, or any other non-public information about the game either in the thread or outside it while the game is ongoing. Do not discuss the game outside of this thread and the designated backroom. Avoid character reveals

Looks like they are going out of their way to shout they are good

I read the following in the OP:

The Fellowship wins by eliminating all the Wolves and successfully chaperoning the One Ring to the fires of Mount Doom, cleansing Middle-earth of its greatest evil.
This sacred duty falls uniquely to the Hobbits among you, a burden few can comprehend.
Should the line of Ring-bearers be extinguished, the quest to destroy the One Ring fails, and with it, all hope for Middle-earth.
Yet, the Ring itself is a persistent and powerful force; even if its current bearer falls, its fate may not be sealed, and its dark influence may still be resisted.

And took it to be hobbits. But on 2nd read,the fellowship is probably more accurate.

[Vernon the Ranger]

My understanding is we're not permitted to reveal ourseleves as hobbits, elves, men or any other character type. I used Jabroni as I saw it used on reading a previous werewolf. I realise now it was poorly chosen. I'll just use NRVs in future.

Have you played much?

Not with this particular group. But I'm familiar with it from elsewhere.

[Wendy the Wench]

^ that's not to say it couldn't happen and that Ina is village. Just the post is a villagery post.

I'm not following.
ina has posted something that you think comes from a village mindset, so the post is villagery,
but its not impossible for ina to be a village.

Is that what you meant to say, or was their a typo somewhere?
Would ina be you top villager?

[Pat the Baker]

I spoke siwiftly of one wolf? Can you put that in plain English please? Are you implying that I said there is one wolf in this game? Cause that didn't happen.

I've explained this many times now and it's really strange how it keeps getting brought up to shade me. Do I need to explain again what I was saying in my first post?

You said 
"Just the one wolf and a serial killer mentioned in the first post? Guessing there are more wolves".
This was simply untrue. They spoke of “wolves” in the plural, more than once. And to say one is merely guessing there are more wolves feels hollow. Guessing? Of course there are more. There was never going to be a lone wolf, such a thing would not make sense.
It reads as though you strain to seem blind to the truth of their number — yet I suspect you knew full well how many there are.

Christ on a bike I really do have to explain this again

I was saying there was 1 wolf name mentioned in the OP- Sauron.. Although from what others have said etc Sauron may not even be a wolf.. That is literally all I was saying, and that my guess is there are more than 1 wolf but we don't know cause it's not mentioned. I have no idea about Lord of the Rings so I was working from the original post & what was mentioned

I never never ever mentioned a lone wolf, or that there is just 1 wolf in this game. And you're only talking about this this wolves plural stuff from the OP now, after others have mentioned it probably over 24 hours ago

I'm not explaining this to anyone again, it's ridiculous

[Ina May the Midwife]

I've a vote from earlier in on Betty I just can't shake the niggle there

Have you looked at anyone else? Any others coming onto your radar? Or are you just focused on Betty?

Nah I mentioned Rhoda earlier as well but they did clarify they were referring to you and Betty, quote below

Anyone willing to share suspicions at the moment? I'd be interested in who @Rhoda the Spinster was referring to there. At the moment it does look like indirect shade tbh

I have a niggle about Betty too I think the character spiel is a mask to avoid proper game discussion

That's where I'm at right now, anywho

Vernon is raising a few red flags at the moment as well but I'm conscious they could be a new player just trying to get to grips with the lingo so not going there today.

It's only a placeholder at the moment for Betty anyways, they said they would be back to post later so I'm not locked in or anything. Just how I roll I always have a placeholder in case something happens and I'm away later. Force of habit more than anything

[Mick the Drunk]

Have you played much?

Not with this particular group. But I'm familiar with it from elsewhere.

Ok thanks coz your posts were confusing as some read like a newbie around vocab and others read like you know the game

[Vernon the Ranger]

You said 
"Just the one wolf and a serial killer mentioned in the first post? Guessing there are more wolves".
This was simply untrue. They spoke of “wolves” in the plural, more than once. And to say one is merely guessing there are more wolves feels hollow. Guessing? Of course there are more. There was never going to be a lone wolf, such a thing would not make sense.
It reads as though you strain to seem blind to the truth of their number — yet I suspect you knew full well how many there are.

Christ on a bike I really do have to explain this again

I was saying there was 1 wolf name mentioned in the OP- Sauron.. Although from what others have said etc Sauron may not even be a wolf.. That is literally all I was saying, and that my guess is there are more than 1 wolf but we don't know cause it's not mentioned. I have no idea about Lord of the Rings so I was working from the original post & what was mentioned

I never never ever mentioned a lone wolf, or that there is just 1 wolf in this game. And you're only talking about this this wolves plural stuff from the OP now, after others have mentioned it probably over 24 hours ago

I'm not explaining this to anyone again, it's ridiculous

Woah calm down. 

You're really huffing and puffing.