The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[Pat the Baker]

Great result, no villagers killed and kill rate now halved!

If we have a BG then we need to protect Edward as our only confirmed villager

Oh yay, yay. Mick is so happy. Yay

[Edward the Barber]

no action from Frank

What made you go for Frank? Gimme your thought process

I went with one of the single voters from lynch night 1, and I saw them as a middle of the road type of player, not overly vocal but posting enough to be relevant

No action doesn't tell us too much though, they could be a wolf who didn't send in the kill order I assume?

[Mick the Drunk]

Wendy can only be the SK if she's bad, there's no way another wolf hammer votes Betty like that day 1

@Magda the Maid I did sort of say it too not just this morning but yesterday 

Ok back in half an hour concert tickets to purchase now

Good luck, i find it awfully hard to get tickets these days

[Vincent the Artist]

Okay

So is there a pool of clearish villagers and see can we Poe this thing down ?

Edward (legolas and Betty voter)
Ina (Betty voter)
Pat (possible peek)
Magda (a hobbit)?

Who else ?

[Pat the Baker]

Placeholder gone in for @Laura the Lace Mistress

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

William the Grave Robber
Laura the Lace Mistress
Mick The Drunk
Vernon the Ranger
Frank the Tank
Vincent the Artist

I will be lynching one of these this evening. They’re in no particular order just copied from the lynch form.

Can someone bring forward to two lynch counts so far? Laura is definitely a strong suspect.

[Edward the Barber]

Why do folk think Wendy was munched? Possible the wolves have some seer abilities and peeked them?

Why did they not munch me? If player thought I was the SK then why risk not munching me and have the SK get another kill, possibly a wolf?

Was Wendy mentioned at all yesterday as a possible SK?

[Magda the Maid]

I wouldnt be totally against the idea of Ina bussing Betty early doors. It would be something to look at further down the line though..

@Laura the Lace Mistress What are your thoughts on the remaining players now?

[Vernon the Ranger]

There was a huge picture of Gollum/Smeagol there 

Yeah, look..stupid me.. just went straight to the bolded. Total facepalm moment on my part 😅

Or a wolf pretending he had no idea who was munched. Needing to show us how sad he was. But moved too quickly.

[Mick the Drunk]

Why do folk think Wendy was munched? Possible the wolves have some seer abilities and peeked them?

Why did they not munch me? If player thought I was the SK then why risk not munching me and have the SK get another kill, possibly a wolf?

Was Wendy mentioned at all yesterday as a possible SK?

Maybe the wolves wanted to keep the SK around to help with the kills so left you if they believed it was you.

Yes Magda said yesterday that she thought Wendy was the SK

[Pat the Baker]

Why do folk think Wendy was munched? Possible the wolves have some seer abilities and peeked them?

Why did they not munch me? If player thought I was the SK then why risk not munching me and have the SK get another kill, possibly a wolf?

Was Wendy mentioned at all yesterday as a possible SK?

They were definitely role hunting in their line of questioning. I called them out for it, as did others

[Vernon the Ranger]

Why do folk think Wendy was munched? Possible the wolves have some seer abilities and peeked them?

Why did they not munch me? If player thought I was the SK then why risk not munching me and have the SK get another kill, possibly a wolf?

Was Wendy mentioned at all yesterday as a possible SK?

I'd guess they didn't munch you because they knew we'd lynch you tonight. They probably didn't realise Wendy was the SK. Killing and SK and clearing your name. Theyve fucked up.

[Vincent the Artist]

Yeah, look..stupid me.. just went straight to the bolded. Total facepalm moment on my part 😅

Or a wolf pretending he had no idea who was munched. Needing to show us how sad he was. But moved too quickly.

I definitely jumped the gun, but not a wolf.

[Magda the Maid]

Why do folk think Wendy was munched? Possible the wolves have some seer abilities and peeked them?

Why did they not munch me? If player thought I was the SK then why risk not munching me and have the SK get another kill, possibly a wolf?

Was Wendy mentioned at all yesterday as a possible SK?

I pretty much called them out as role hunting and told them i thought they were the SK.. it was why i couldnt 100% buy into the fact that you were the SK

[Mick the Drunk]

I wouldnt be totally against the idea of Ina bussing Betty early doors. It would be something to look at further down the line though..

@Laura the Lace Mistress  What are your thoughts on the remaining players now?

But would she be first on and then not move when she realised Betty was in trouble?

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Laura looks dodge here too. Wonder what time they voted at and were they in the thread much?

Pretty much a given that Rhoda was being lynched so had no need to move there.

[Pat the Baker]

I wouldnt be totally against the idea of Ina bussing Betty early doors. It would be something to look at further down the line though..

@Laura the Lace Mistress  What are your thoughts on the remaining players now?

But would she be first on and then not move when she realised Betty was in trouble?

Bussing serves a purpose, in that we are not looking to yeet Ina any time soon. It would be fairly suss to move off that early vote too after chasing Betty that morning. Like we'd have Magda as most suspicious today because of the late move, apart from their reveal claim. But if there's a wolf on the D1 Rhoda vote (and there prob is) then it's Laura for me

Ina is not something I'll be considering today. But I do like a good wolf bus of a teammate 

[Mick the Drunk]

But would she be first on and then not move when she realised Betty was in trouble?

Bussing serves a purpose, in that we are not looking to yeet Ina any time soon. It would be fairly suss to move off that early vote too after chasing Betty that morning. Like we'd have Magda as most suspicious today because of the late move, apart from their reveal claim. But if there's a wolf on the D1 Rhoda vote (and there prob is) then it's Laura for me

Ina is not something I'll be considering today. But I do like a good wolf bus of a teammate 

Yea wolves have been very successful on here when bussing but bussing on Day 1 seems harsh

[Ina May the Midwife]

I get the suspicion but I didn't bus. I did spend the entire day pushing Betty even when others thought they spotted things about her (Magda, and Laura brought up different posts).

It would be a pretty hardcore thing to do on Day 1 to a teammate!

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Just had a quick read, will try to get on in an hour or so to post, I'm busy until after 6 today but will be on more this evening.

Have a speed read, agree that Edward looks very dodgy. Will read back and post more after dinner and a shower.

Rhoda, Mick, William, Frank, Edward

Edward SK
Posts enough to be sage but safe enough to not be noticed.

2 wolves in the other 4
Did Rhoda and Betty think they could get people onboard Wendy wagon. Me thinks yes

Watch the quiet ones. Throwaway votes as they did not want to impact a wagon against Betty and Rhoda

Won't be on thread until after munch so use this as a whisper in the wind if my presence is no longer in physical form

This seems to call Edward the SK and Rhoda a wolf, Prada can't have had to actions though. Did she check one and just post her suspicions of the other?

I’d like to talk about singular voters, of which I am one. Would there be a wolf voting wolf possibility on a player getting no heat?

Did you get an answer for this? I'm reading back and wondering why you voted for Prada?

Did you get an answer for this? I'm reading back and wondering why you voted for Prada?

Sorry, @"Benjamin the Alchemist, why did you vote for Ina?

And @William the Grave Robber, why did you vote for Prada?

Vote in for Edward, still trying to read back.

Did Edward claim Legolas? Would his claim tie in with the character?

all of Laura’s posts from N1 munch to D2 lynch.

[Pat the Baker]

Just had a quick read, will try to get on in an hour or so to post, I'm busy until after 6 today but will be on more this evening.

Have a speed read, agree that Edward looks very dodgy. Will read back and post more after dinner and a shower.

This seems to call Edward the SK and Rhoda a wolf, Prada can't have had to actions though. Did she check one and just post her suspicions of the other?

Did you get an answer for this? I'm reading back and wondering why you voted for Prada?

Sorry, @"Benjamin the Alchemist, why did you vote for Ina?

And @William the Grave Robber, why did you vote for Prada?

Vote in for Edward, still trying to read back.

Did Edward claim Legolas? Would his claim tie in with the character?

all of Laura’s posts from N1 munch to D2 lynch.

Lots of 'trying to read back'

[Mick the Drunk]

Just had a quick read, will try to get on in an hour or so to post, I'm busy until after 6 today but will be on more this evening.

Have a speed read, agree that Edward looks very dodgy. Will read back and post more after dinner and a shower.

This seems to call Edward the SK and Rhoda a wolf, Prada can't have had to actions though. Did she check one and just post her suspicions of the other?

Did you get an answer for this? I'm reading back and wondering why you voted for Prada?

Sorry, @"Benjamin the Alchemist, why did you vote for Ina?

And @William the Grave Robber, why did you vote for Prada?

Vote in for Edward, still trying to read back.

Did Edward claim Legolas? Would his claim tie in with the character?

all of Laura’s posts from N1 munch to D2 lynch.

I thought she was around more than that but must have just been the conversations around her that had her in my mind. 

@Laura the Lace Mistress - you around today?

[Pat the Baker]

Putting Laura aside for a minute as I think they need to go tonight, who else isn't really game solving

Mick Vern, Vincent, William

I'd have put Ed in there but they seem fairly clear now, yeah?

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Do you think we started with 3 or 4 wolves?

[Vincent the Artist]

Do you think we started with 3 or 4 wolves?

Not sure because of the SK.16 players would normally be 4 wolves, but it could be 3 wolves + the SK

[Mick the Drunk]

Putting Laura aside for a minute as I think they need to go tonight, who else isn't really game solving

Mick Vern, Vincent, William

I'd have put Ed in there but they seem fairly clear now, yeah?

Yes I would leave Ed, there has been no counterclaim to his, we can always revisit later down the line if needed.

[Vincent the Artist]

Putting Laura aside for a minute as I think they need to go tonight, who else isn't really game solving

Mick Vern, Vincent, William

I'd have put Ed in there but they seem fairly clear now, yeah?

I'm trying to solve. I normally do it by finding villagers and then kill what's left

[Pat the Baker]

Do you think we started with 3 or 4 wolves?

Not sure because of the SK.16 players would normally be 4 wolves, but it could be 3 wolves + the SK

I thought 3 too cause of SK. But we haven't seen many wolfy powers yet... although we did yet the witch wolf so they prob had something?

[Ina May the Midwife]

My own thoughts on the remaining players (have excluded myself obviously lol)

High priority suspicions:

Edward - Prada's post stating he is the SK and for us not to ignore it, his subsequent claim. It's all quite inconvenient for Edward but it would be foolish to ignore the dead Investigators post.

Rhoda - Voting with Betty, neither self pressing. Red flags here in terms of potential W/W pairing. General posting is a bit scattered, could be a tactic, could be just how they play.


Mid tier priority

Magda - Becomes high priority if Rhoda is a villager (or the SK) based on vote timing. General posting has been ok but vote highly suspicious

Pat, Laura - Again these get upgraded if Rhoda is a villager (or SK). Likely one wolf at least in the three voting Rhoda in that scenario. Laura's readslist discussed at length yesterday. Pat drew a bit of heat over #onewolfgate on Sunday and Monday but posts in general have been fairly fine.


Lower tier, not priority (yet)

Vernon - Energy since the Betty lynch has completely dipped. Not as much enthusiasm or posting in general. Voted Pat.

William, Benjamin, Mick - Single voters last night. Benji arguably has the better thread presence of the three here.

Frank - Separating out Frank as there's a lot of villagery posts I like. Also a single voter but encouraged Maeve (along with Prada and Vincent) to not vote themselves. Not sure wolves would do this, though SK might. Fairly consistent with posting. Had a back and forth with Laura though the vote to Mick as opposed to their top target makes me wonder ever so slightly. Happy enough to place them here though.

Low priority

Vincent - voted Ed with Prada. Encouraged Maeve not to waste her vote. Villagery look anyways but given the outcome (Betty the wolf getting lynched) it gets extra marks.

Wendy - Vote switch killed a wolf last night. Wolves munching into Betty wagon indicates no wolves. Possible SK still, would upgrade if Edward does not flip as SK given the argument not to kill him, could be perceived as giving herself some extra cover given Prada's post


So if I was to rank all players from who I suspect most to who I suspect the least it would look like this

Edward
Rhoda
Magda
Laura
Pat
Vernon
Mick
William
Benjamin
Frank
Vincent
Wendy

So I want to go back to this which was obviously wrong LOL

Since yesterday Rhoda has flipped as Gandalf so was village.
Edward also seems to be Legolas
Magda has revealed her address in Hobbiton as well
And my top village read in Wendy was munched as SK.
Pat could have possibly been peeked as good? So could only be the alpha if such a thing exists in this game


Clustermuck doesn't describe this readslist.



Sticking with it though as the logic behind it imo was sound.


List would probably now look something like this from highest to lowest in suspicion terms


Laura
Vernon
Mick
William
Benjamin
Vincent
Frank
Pat
Edward/Magda

So you can take my FFA as 

Laura - day 1 vote and lack of activity since
Vernon - not seeing villageriness in their posting
Mick - Teflon Mick, tbh you could put William or Benji in here either.


Personally I think we can solve the game by going through the above 5 and Vinnie, though it would be handy to hit a wolf today if possible

I still think Vinnie has more positives than negatives going for him over the Maeve vote stuff but would need to see more from him today

Frank did not do any action last night according to Edward but that doesn't rule him out from anything, but I still like his posting so far and I think if Laura's a wolf then Frank isn't teamed with her (and the SK is now dead so that means he's village)

Pat, if peeked and this is not certain by any means, but IF he was peeked then he could only be an alpha wolf which we don't even know exists in this game so based on that widely assumed info he goes up the list.

Already mentioned Ed and Magda.

[Mick the Drunk]

Do you think we started with 3 or 4 wolves?

I originally thought 3 with the SK in play and the mention of corruption - but to date there has been no evidence of corruption so maybe it is the 4. We should work on the worst case basis and assume 4

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Magda the Maid
Pat the Baker
Edward the Barber


Benjamin the Alchemist
Ina May the Midwife
William the Grave Robber
Laura the Lace Mistress
Mick The Drunk
Vernon the Ranger
Frank the Tank
Vincent the Artist

9 v 2
Mislynch Wed 8 v 2
Munch 7 v 2
Mislynch Thur 6 v 2
Munch 5 v 2
Mislynch Fri 4 v 2
Munch 3 v 2

It really is ours to lose.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Magda the Maid
Pat the Baker
Edward the Barber


Benjamin the Alchemist
Ina May the Midwife
William the Grave Robber
Laura the Lace Mistress
Mick The Drunk
Vernon the Ranger
Frank the Tank
Vincent the Artist

9 v 2
Mislynch Wed 8 v 2
Munch 7 v 2
Mislynch Thur 6 v 2
Munch 5 v 2
Mislynch Fri 4 v 2
Munch 3 v 2

It really is ours to lose.

Ya like I said if we can establish a POE we should be able to pin the wolves down


My POE would be
Laura
Vern
Mick
William
Benji
Vinnie


Need to narrow that down a little bit more though because we only really have three goes at this. But as the game develops more info will become available.

Laura prob the best shot today but I really fancy taking a swing at Vern too

[Pat the Baker]

Putting Laura aside for a minute as I think they need to go tonight, who else isn't really game solving

Mick Vern, Vincent, William

I'd have put Ed in there but they seem fairly clear now, yeah?

I'm trying to solve. I normally do it by finding villagers and then kill what's left

Who ya thinking for next wolf?

[Magda the Maid]

My Own POE would be

Laura
Vern
Mick
William
Vincent
Frank
Ben
Ina

So the top three are the same as your's @Ina May the Midwife why have you left Frank off your list?

[Magda the Maid]

Magda the Maid
Pat the Baker
Edward the Barber


Benjamin the Alchemist
Ina May the Midwife
William the Grave Robber
Laura the Lace Mistress
Mick The Drunk
Vernon the Ranger
Frank the Tank
Vincent the Artist

9 v 2
Mislynch Wed 8 v 2
Munch 7 v 2
Mislynch Thur 6 v 2
Munch 5 v 2
Mislynch Fri 4 v 2
Munch 3 v 2

It really is ours to lose.

Ya like I said if we can establish a POE we should be able to pin the wolves down


My POE would be
Laura
Vern
Mick
William
Benji
Vinnie


Need to narrow that down a little bit more though because we only really have three goes at this. But as the game develops more info will become available.

Laura prob the best shot today but I really fancy taking a swing at Vern too

I know you want to swing at Vern, but i think its best that we work with the information that we have available which is that D1 vote. Vern can then come next

[Ina May the Midwife]

My Own POE would be

Laura
Vern
Mick
William
Vincent
Frank
Ben
Ina

So the top three are the same as your's @Ina May the Midwife  why have you left Frank off your list?

See my bigger post, I went into more detail on that

Frank did not do any action last night according to Edward but that doesn't rule him out from anything, but I still like his posting so far and I think if Laura's a wolf then Frank isn't teamed with her (and the SK is now dead so that means he's village)

But more to the point I just don't think he's been wolfy.

If Laura is lynched and flipped village that would change mind you

[Frank the Tank]

Sorry. They did. It's late. Not distancing myself from wolves. Just a mistake due to tiredness.

Thats probably the more likely scenario tbf to ya

Could still be the sk I suppose 😉

Putting Laura aside for a minute as I think they need to go tonight, who else isn't really game solving

Mick Vern, Vincent, William

I'd have put Ed in there but they seem fairly clear now, yeah?

Everyone is forgetting @Benjamin the Alchemist
Benjamin is not posting much, the throwaway vote last night because Rhoda will have enough votes is very suss. Almost like they didn't want to be found on a wagon lynching a villager.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Ya like I said if we can establish a POE we should be able to pin the wolves down


My POE would be
Laura
Vern
Mick
William
Benji
Vinnie


Need to narrow that down a little bit more though because we only really have three goes at this. But as the game develops more info will become available.

Laura prob the best shot today but I really fancy taking a swing at Vern too

I know you want to swing at Vern, but i think its best that we work with the information that we have available which is that D1 vote. Vern can then come next

I know but I'm getting the same D1 betty vibes from Vern. It's getting harder for me to ignore

[Frank the Tank]

Called out the AI use, answered a question, that's posting. Day 0 yesterday so there isn't much to go on, I said I'm neutral on them as they haven't enough posts to base an opinion on. He might be in work today and can't post.

I can stand by my post on Betty, I'm just not sure it's wise to do so at this moment, make of that what you will.

You said "Benjamin - neutral lean, is posting and seems to be trying figure it out" 
You aren't explaining how someone with 4 posts could be classed as posting and how they were figuring things out? 

TBQH it sounds like wolf clearing wolf. Is Benjamin posting in your backroom perchance?

Quoting myself here. If Laura flips wolf, I think Benjamin is wolf.

[Ina May the Midwife]

Vote in on Laura