The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf

[Ina May the Midwife]

Now the Betty voters. I wouldn't be looking at them now tbh as there's far more high priority targets BUT the Maeve vote on Betty sort of came out of nowhere.
If Rhoda is a wolf then I'd be very suspicious of that one. Wendy's vote pushed Betty over the line so again it's only worth revisiting if Rhoda is a wolf. There's likely one of those two votes a potential bus if that's the case.

@Edward the Barber when did you vote Betty as a matter of interest?

I voted about 2 hours before deadline. Great result but I don't want any plaudits, it was a complete fluke on my part, I wasn't here much to have any read on anyone

How many of us revealed on thread who we were voting for? Was it common knowledge that Betty was up? If so then there could be wolves in the votes for the other high voted player trying to save Betty

There were declared votes but there wasn't really a consensus at all. In fact Rhoda would have probably been lynched but for Maeve's vote and Wendy switching last minute. Magda had an 8.58 vote on Rhoda

@Wendy the Wench who did you switch off last min to move onto Betty?

[Pat the Baker]

Now the Betty voters. I wouldn't be looking at them now tbh as there's far more high priority targets BUT the Maeve vote on Betty sort of came out of nowhere.
If Rhoda is a wolf then I'd be very suspicious of that one. Wendy's vote pushed Betty over the line so again it's only worth revisiting if Rhoda is a wolf. There's likely one of those two votes a potential bus if that's the case.

@Edward the Barber when did you vote Betty as a matter of interest?

I voted about 2 hours before deadline. Great result but I don't want any plaudits, it was a complete fluke on my part, I wasn't here much to have any read on anyone

How many of us revealed on thread who we were voting for? Was it common knowledge that Betty was up? If so then there could be wolves in the votes for the other high voted player trying to save Betty

Betty was definitely in the mix, but it wasn't a slam dunk.  That was my reading of it at the time

Rhoda was well in the mix,  yourself a bit too. Wendy had a couple of votes,  1 from betty

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Morning.

Well done to the Betty voters. I was absolutely no help in catching her.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Is there anything to be read into players voting for each other? I.e. Wednesday for Betty and Berry for Wendy

[Rhoda the Spinster]

*Wendy *Betty.

[Pat the Baker]

Is there anything to be read into players voting for each other? I.e. Wednesday for Betty and Berry for Wendy

Not unheard of for wolves to bus the bejaysus out of each other to gain village cred

Its probably unlikely and I wouldn't have Wendy on my dodgy list at the moment. They were going in on betty a lot yesterday

[Magda the Maid]

Wolves can bus and vote for each other to make themselves look good yeah, the thing about the Wendy vote it was an 8.59 vote when the voting was still up in air and loads of unknowns. in my opinion that doesnt happen as Wolf on Wolf

Wendy is either Green or SK imo

[Ina May the Midwife]

I'll go with Betty then

So Maeve hops on the thread and after a little bit of discussion hops on Betty, this means at this point the wagons are:

Betty - Ina, Edward, Maeve

Rhoda - Pat, Laura

One minute later, Rhoda posts the following:

Vote in for Wendy. I am not happy about it. My peeks might be a better vote but hey ho.

That doesn't change the top wagons at all, Betty is still in the lead by a vote.

FWIW Pat, I think you're right- I mixed Betty and Wendy up. Betty did post a lot but it was more helpful/innocous stuff. A lot of folks did at the start e.g. Ina with her insider knowledge of the LOTR for example. Would we call explaining terms useful? It is for new players to be sure.
Im running out of time.

Jaysus the hint of wolf off this.. switching to Rhoda

Magda then pops onto Rhoda at 8.58, tying the top wagons so it looks like this:


Rhoda - Pat, Laura, Magda*

Betty - Ina, Edward, Maeve

*Magda has last vote so if this was final vote count Rhoda would have been lynched

Ok that is 10 and then inc me is 11 votes. Whose votes are missing? Vernon and William?

i switched back to betty in last few seconds.

This post from Wendy comes post lynch closure - which confirms the top wagon and Wendy's last minute vote the killing blow on Betty.

Betty - Ina, Edward, Maeve, Wendy

Rhoda - Pat, Laura, Magda.

Last vote no longer matters as Betty has more votes, but Wendy likely would have gotten it anywho.

Two things I can't quite understand.

Why no self pres on Rhoda from Betty. Also, Rhoda doesn't self pres onto Betty either. Red flag to me there in terms of alignment, it indicates that both may be wolves and didn't want to vote each other.

Instead, Rhoda and Betty both end up voting Wendy together. Possible that they thought Wendy would have more votes and tried to make her the counter wagon? Can't answer that question firmly until we know Rhoda's alignment though.


If Rhoda is village or the SK, Magda becomes a highly priority possibility for wolf based on the timing of her voting Rhoda, as it tied the wagons with Betty.

We shall cross that bridge if necessary but worth bearing in mind. I'm not convinced that Rhoda's a villager though but I thought it best to include this in my post.

[Ina May the Midwife]

I'm away now for the next couple of hours.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

That's interesting insight Ina. I actually had in my head that made Magda safer and Laura was the voter on me I was most suspicious if.
On Wendy, and perhaps she can clarify. She said early on Berry or Edward and then went Betty. Why? Hopefully she can clarify

[Edward the Barber]

That's good analysis @Ina May the Midwife

If Rhoda is also a wolf, those in the know on the theme, Betty was "The Witch-king of Angmar, dread servant of Sauron, Lord of the Nazgûl" is this a low level wolf as in Rhoda could have been saved as they are more powerful?

[Prada the Seamstress]

I'll go with Betty then

So Maeve hops on the thread and after a little bit of discussion hops on Betty, this means at this point the wagons are:

Betty - Ina, Edward, Maeve

Rhoda - Pat, Laura

One minute later, Rhoda posts the following:

Vote in for Wendy. I am not happy about it. My peeks might be a better vote but hey ho.

That doesn't change the top wagons at all, Betty is still in the lead by a vote.

Jaysus the hint of wolf off this.. switching to Rhoda

Magda then pops onto Rhoda at 8.58, tying the top wagons so it looks like this:


Rhoda - Pat, Laura, Magda*

Betty - Ina, Edward, Maeve

*Magda has last vote so if this was final vote count Rhoda would have been lynched

i switched back to betty in last few seconds.

This post from Wendy comes post lynch closure - which confirms the top wagon and Wendy's last minute vote the killing blow on Betty.

Betty - Ina, Edward, Maeve, Wendy

Rhoda - Pat, Laura, Magda.

Last vote no longer matters as Betty has more votes, but Wendy likely would have gotten it anywho.

Two things I can't quite understand.

Why no self pres on Rhoda from Betty. Also, Rhoda doesn't self pres onto Betty either. Red flag to me there in terms of alignment, it indicates that both may be wolves and didn't want to vote each other.

Instead, Rhoda and Betty both end up voting Wendy together. Possible that they thought Wendy would have more votes and tried to make her the counter wagon? Can't answer that question firmly until we know Rhoda's alignment though.


If Rhoda is village or the SK, Magda becomes a highly priority possibility for wolf based on the timing of her voting Rhoda, as it tied the wagons with Betty.

We shall cross that bridge if necessary but worth bearing in mind. I'm not convinced that Rhoda's a villager though but I thought it best to include this in my post.

This is a great post.

Rhoda needs to be resolved one way or the other

[Magda the Maid]

That's interesting insight Ina. I actually had in my head that made Magda safer and Laura was the voter on me I was most suspicious if.
On Wendy, and perhaps she can clarify. She said early on Berry or Edward and then went Betty. Why? Hopefully she can clarify

Nah from a wagonomics point of view, if you are village or SK, my vote on you from a timing perspective looks dodge as fuck. But i was away putting the kids to bed and only got back on thread at 5 to 9, had a quick glance through the posts and really didnt like that post by you so i changed and declared that. i also thought that Betty was a hobbit, so wasnt going to vote there.

[Magda the Maid]

Anyways we can chat about me, if Rhoda flips village or SK, then ye will see, and you can all focus on the other 2 on that wagon, if she is Vil or SK.

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Indeed Magda.

[E.N.]

In the deep hush of night, when shadows gathered thickest, a fateful weakness assailed the ringbearer Frodo. Drawn by the perilous lustre of the One Ring, he yielded to its ancient, insidious call, and upon his finger, the golden menace slid.

Instantly, from the high towers of Barad-dûr, a dreadful alarm was struck! The Eye, sleepless and terrible, pierced the enfolding darkness, a searing beam of malice that crossed leagues in a blink. The very air shivered with the knowledge of the Ring’s presence, and the remaining forces of evil were roused to a heightened fury.

Yet, by some grace of fate, the exact location of the ringbearer remained veiled, a pinpoint of light shimmering maddeningly beyond their true grasp. Frustrated, the enemy could not precisely seize its prize. Instead, the wrathful will of Mordor lashed out, a sweeping, blind blow of pure malice directed at the suspected region. And there, amongst the innocent and the unwary, was struck down one known by the humble name of Maeve the Madam, who perished instantly, a tragic, unintended sacrifice to the eternal War.

The forces of evil are now more keenly attuned to the call and power of the ring, and desperately seek its call again, that their vision may, perchance, improve

Maeve the Madam was Merry Brandybuck, The Whisperer, Hobbit of The Shire

   

[E.N.]

Yet it was not only the legions of the Shadow that sought the Great Ring; for another hunter, more pitiful and far more fell, prowled the shadowed lands. A creature both good and foul, twisted and torn by a desperate need, he too was consumed by the lust to possess the One Ring.

Yet, unlike those enthralled by Sauron's dominion, he moved not with fell purpose toward the Ring's known path. No, his malice was a thing of chaotic frenzy, striking seemingly at random, driven by wild, consuming greed. Thus did he come upon Prada the Seamstress, whose quiet life was swiftly and cruelly quenched. He fell upon her cottage like a sudden blight, ransacking the poor haberdashery with feverish, grasping hands, believing the One Ring might be secreted amongst the spools and fine linen.

Disappointment, sharp and bitter, was his only reward. No glint of gold met his hungry gaze. And so, before any villager might stir from their hearths and recognize the twisted soul, the desperate thing vanished once more into the gloom, melting back into the unhallowed darkness whence he came.

Prada the Seamstress was Elrond the Investigator

   

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Awww rest in peace, Maeve. Rest in peace, Prada 😢

[Pat the Baker]

Wolves going into the wagon on wolf, not surprising unfortunately

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Prada would have investigated last night, correct?

[Ina May the Midwife]

So wolves killed Maeve meaning they've no problem with taking out Betty voters or narrowing that pool.

Only villagers or SK on board there.

SK killed Prada, could be random, could be targeted. Hard to know with SK. Elrond the Investigator though, not a great role to lose

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

Magda switched to me at the last minute.
Wendy said it was Betty or Edward
Vincent said Edward but was going to look at William.
Maeve voited Betty
and Vincent voted Edward.

Is that everyone?

I went Edward

You know there were around 50 posts in the last hour and a half right? I don't like this theory that gets floated that if it's quiet there's no wolves in trouble.

I do think in general the theory holds up. Think it was busy tonight however.

It doesn't though. The last game was dead around lynches and the wolves swept the board😂

Most of the time the activity is nervous villagers unsure of their vote which is natural. The wolves can coordinate off thread so don't need to post heavily. Also people always tend to think this so they'll stay quiet and hope people switch because of it.

Exactly. You said it in your first sentence.

It was quiet around lynch because wolves weren't in danger so need to create discussion to move votes

Rhoda, Mick, William, Frank, Edward

Edward SK
Posts enough to be sage but safe enough to not be noticed.

2 wolves in the other 4
Did Rhoda and Betty think they could get people onboard Wendy wagon. Me thinks yes

Watch the quiet ones. Throwaway votes as they did not want to impact a wagon against Betty and Rhoda

Won't be on thread until after munch so use this as a whisper in the wind if my presence is no longer in physical form

A shot on Edward would be great right now.

[Pat the Baker]

I went Edward

I do think in general the theory holds up. Think it was busy tonight however.

Exactly. You said it in your first sentence.

It was quiet around lynch because wolves weren't in danger so need to create discussion to move votes

Rhoda, Mick, William, Frank, Edward

Edward SK
Posts enough to be sage but safe enough to not be noticed.

2 wolves in the other 4
Did Rhoda and Betty think they could get people onboard Wendy wagon. Me thinks yes

Watch the quiet ones. Throwaway votes as they did not want to impact a wagon against Betty and Rhoda

Won't be on thread until after munch so use this as a whisper in the wind if my presence is no longer in physical form

A shot on Edward would be great right now.

Edward voted for Betty yesterday though

Also going from the OP actions are at night

[Pat the Baker]

Sorry I see what you're saying now that they could be sk based on that

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

The SK killed Prada the investigator who has whispered to us that Edward is the SK

[Magda the Maid]

I went Edward

I do think in general the theory holds up. Think it was busy tonight however.

Exactly. You said it in your first sentence.

It was quiet around lynch because wolves weren't in danger so need to create discussion to move votes

Rhoda, Mick, William, Frank, Edward

Edward SK
Posts enough to be sage but safe enough to not be noticed.

2 wolves in the other 4
Did Rhoda and Betty think they could get people onboard Wendy wagon. Me thinks yes

Watch the quiet ones. Throwaway votes as they did not want to impact a wagon against Betty and Rhoda

Won't be on thread until after munch so use this as a whisper in the wind if my presence is no longer in physical form

A shot on Edward would be great right now.

There was definetly something about Rhoda also, you said something about loving to know there alignment and they said that can be arranged or such.. im on a call at the mo so cant check back properly

[William the Grave Robber]

update for today's kills:

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

I didn’t mean to quote all those posts. The last one is the most important one.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

A shot on Edward would be great right now.

There was definetly something about Rhoda also, you said something about loving to know there alignment and they said that can be arranged or such.. im on a call at the mo so cant check back properly

It was a post that said that can be arranged whoosh whoosh whoosh

[Magda the Maid]

Sorry that was to Ina not Benji last night

[William the Grave Robber]

i like rhoda for lycnh tonight based on wagonomics. betty could have self-presed by voting her. possibly a more powerful wolf.

we could also go edward if elrond peeked him. presume investigator is seer and it makes sense that would be elrond's role.

[Benjamin the Alchemist]

i like rhoda for lycnh tonight based on wagonomics. betty could have self-presed by voting her. possibly a more powerful wolf.

we could also go edward if elrond peeked him. presume investigator is seer and it makes sense that would be elrond's role.

In the LOTR hierarchy wouldn’t the king be lower than the bloke than put Gandalf on top of that tower who in turn is lower than the bloke who made the ring?

[Pat the Baker]

i like rhoda for lycnh tonight based on wagonomics. betty could have self-presed by voting her. possibly a more powerful wolf.

we could also go edward if elrond peeked him. presume investigator is seer and it makes sense that would be elrond's role.

Im not sure investigator means seer? Anyone else have a view on that

[Magda the Maid]

Uncoordinated or inexperienced wolves that indicates to me. I'd really love to know Rhoda's alignment rn it would be very beneficial.

There's also an SK still to find of course. If Rhoda comes back as SK or villager then there is at least one wolf in the three voters (I'm aware you're one of them)

If she's a wolf there's a strong chance that it's a village wagon.

Alignment you say. That can be arranged.
Whoosh, whoosh whoosh!

Here it is.. if you add that to the other posts Prada could have investiagted either Rhoda or Edward

[Pat the Baker]

Edward or rhoda for me tonight at the moment

[Magda the Maid]

i like rhoda for lycnh tonight based on wagonomics. betty could have self-presed by voting her. possibly a more powerful wolf.

we could also go edward if elrond peeked him. presume investigator is seer and it makes sense that would be elrond's role.

Im not sure investigator means seer? Anyone else have a view on that

Could be a few.. Full Seer check, alignment check.. movement check.. there is a few others that can like check 2 players and see if they are on the same team etc

[Magda the Maid]

going by that post to Ina though it looks like they could check alignment

[Magda the Maid]

@Ina May the Midwife you would probably know this.. alignment checks, does SK show differently or is it just good v bad typically?

[Mick the Drunk]

A shot on Edward would be great right now.

Edward voted for Betty yesterday though

Also going from the OP actions are at night

Morning all, just to clarify I did declare my vote on thread just wasn't picked up for the listing. I went William as as per my shoot in the peek/shoot/protect game. He keeps disappearing and then reappears with his spreadsheets trying to look helpful.

@Pat the Baker - I see you realised he meant he could be SK but in relation to your point re night actions - Prada's post where she names him as possible SK was after lynch so they could have gotten their peek by then

[Rhoda the Spinster]

Early doors for Edward or Laura for me.
Still not liking Vernon disappearing act, don't know why.
There was some good reasoning on Edward yesterday, I'll have to look