The Gang Solves The Werewolf Crisis

[Magda the Maid]

gordon admitting to voting vernon 1 hour after lynch is a good look. I don't think a wolf who has just preformed a pile on on vernon admits to voting vernon, if they know there is no results coming tonight.

If a vote reveal is just delayed, which would be my guess, then Gordon revealing he voted there isn't proving his alignment. If its a wolf mechanic, which think it is, and given the numbers they could force a vote on with the vote delay. Sk needs to hit wolves this morning or its effectively game over given the numbers at play and roles eliminated. Vernon as BG would be pivotal to remove from the board

[Amy the Singer]

Morning all.

Going to stick some of my thoughts into the thread. Numbers-wise we're getting thin on the ground village wise with at least 4 intruders (3 known wolves and 1 SK) still in play and I'd expect there to be 1 other wolf given the comment about the number of McPoyles in the OP.

[Amy the Singer]

We've 3 known wolves with, in my mind at least, strong suspicion of a 4th. Working on the assumption that not all of the wolves will have voted as lone wolves on N1, this theory would put at least one of Prada, Frank, Dexter and myself into consideration. I'm clear for myself but I get it if others want to look at me.

Prada obviously has heat from having the most declared votes going into last night. That's either incredibly confident wolf play or else it's a set up.

Frank is a newbie and has acted the least suspicious of the two newbies, in my opinion. I'll probably go back and review stuff in that light and see if I get a fresh perspective.

Dexter is waving his sword around and chatting to the women, fully going into the character created. I've not looked that way so far but doing stats on genders of anon accounts in a randed game is a bit odd to me.

[Amy the Singer]

There was a discussion early D2 about the timing of the subs and how that related to some of the deaths in game. Taking the order of the posts to be relevant to the timeline of how things are happening in game, that for me rules Gordon and Robin out of being the SK as they entered after the first SK kill. It does not however rule either of them out of being a wolf.

[Boris the Fool]

Morning all, we are really up against it today as numbers getting very tight. We need the SK to so us a favour with their kill today.

I think we would all be ok agreement that Prada has to go today in order to allow us to make some sort of sense of what happened last night. Would be great if the wildcard still had powers today and could use one of these to get rid of her so we can use to lynch to focus on getting another one.

[Amy the Singer]

I'm interested in getting @Gordon the Cook 's viewpoint. You've two posts - the first a hello and looking to be caught up and the second saying after the vote that he voted and that it went on the player that was yeeted.

Given that you've joined the game at a later point is there anything that you're picking up overall that may have escaped some of us who have been here as it unfolded?

[Amy the Singer]

gordon admitting to voting vernon 1 hour after lynch is a good look. I don't think a wolf who has just preformed a pile on on vernon admits to voting vernon, if they know there is no results coming tonight.

If a vote reveal is just delayed, which would be my guess, then Gordon revealing he voted there isn't proving his alignment. If its a wolf mechanic, which think it is, and given the numbers they could force a vote on with the vote delay. Sk needs to hit wolves this morning or its effectively game over given the numbers at play and roles eliminated. Vernon as BG would be pivotal to remove from the board

Magda, can I check with you, which is your running theory? Is it your guess that the results are delayed for an unknown reason, or do you think that it's a wolf mechanic.

I'm personally more inclined to a wolf mechanic theory, given there was no mention of results to follow in the yeet result post.

[Boris the Fool]

If a vote reveal is just delayed, which would be my guess, then Gordon revealing he voted there isn't proving his alignment. If its a wolf mechanic, which think it is, and given the numbers they could force a vote on with the vote delay. Sk needs to hit wolves this morning or its effectively game over given the numbers at play and roles eliminated. Vernon as BG would be pivotal to remove from the board

Magda, can I check with you, which is your running theory? Is it your guess that the results are delayed for an unknown reason, or do you think that it's a wolf mechanic.

I'm personally more inclined to a wolf mechanic theory, given there was no mention of results to follow in the yeet result post.

I agree on the wolf mechanic as if it was just a simple vote switch the results are usually published. Them not appearing leads me to believe it was a bigger play than just a vote switch and the lynch results not appearing is to avoid the wolves being easily outed on thread

[Prada the Seamstress]

We've 3 known wolves with, in my mind at least, strong suspicion of a 4th. Working on the assumption that not all of the wolves will have voted as lone wolves on N1, this theory would put at least one of Prada, Frank, Dexter and myself into consideration. I'm clear for myself but I get it if others want to look at me.

Prada obviously has heat from having the most declared votes going into last night. That's either incredibly confident wolf play or else it's a set up.

Frank is a newbie and has acted the least suspicious of the two newbies, in my opinion. I'll probably go back and review stuff in that light and see if I get a fresh perspective.

Dexter is waving his sword around and chatting to the women, fully going into the character created. I've not looked that way so far but doing stats on genders of anon accounts in a randed game is a bit odd to me.

Morning Amy. Obviously it's very hard from my position to convince anyone but it's completely a set up.

Added to the fact that a bunch of people seemingly failed to CFD me at end of day when I wasn't active it's a bit too on the nose, if you ask me.

I remain convinced Laura is a wolf or the SK. They are not playing with village interests based on both their posting and voting, not sure how that isn't obvious.

On your good self, I don't see much to incriminate you personally other than low posting, but that in itself can be a tactic as much as anything.

On the others

Frank is new, or at least says he is. Voted me last night. I'll probably be gone at some point today so look back on him when I'm shown as a flipped villager.

Dexter needs to go too, the roleplay stuff was cute at first. Now it's a distraction.

[Prada the Seamstress]

Morning all, we are really up against it today as numbers getting very tight. We need the SK to so us a favour with their kill today.

I think we would all be ok agreement that Prada has to go today in order to allow us to make some sort of sense of what happened last night. Would be great if the wildcard still had powers today and could use one of these to get rid of her so we can use to lynch to focus on getting another one.

I don't need to go anywhere  I'm a villager.

This is a complete set up! I wasn't even here, got CFD'd badly which resulted in the freaking bodyguard getting lynched. How is it anything to do with me at all, I didn't vote Vernon!

People were too blasé about the voting again even miscounting the numbers they had on me, how people can't see this is complete nonsense and designed to frame me is beyond me.

[Amy the Singer]

Magda, can I check with you, which is your running theory? Is it your guess that the results are delayed for an unknown reason, or do you think that it's a wolf mechanic.

I'm personally more inclined to a wolf mechanic theory, given there was no mention of results to follow in the yeet result post.

I agree on the wolf mechanic as if it was just a simple vote switch the results are usually published. Them not appearing leads me to believe it was a bigger play than just a vote switch and the lynch results not appearing is to avoid the wolves being easily outed on thread

That'd be in line with my thinking. That also brings all the declared votes into question too. The wolves would know that we wouldn't find out the results so had the ability to lay a false trail last night. It's why I've a little hesitation on committing to go in on Prada just yet.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

We've 3 known wolves with, in my mind at least, strong suspicion of a 4th. Working on the assumption that not all of the wolves will have voted as lone wolves on N1, this theory would put at least one of Prada, Frank, Dexter and myself into consideration. I'm clear for myself but I get it if others want to look at me.

Prada obviously has heat from having the most declared votes going into last night. That's either incredibly confident wolf play or else it's a set up.

Frank is a newbie and has acted the least suspicious of the two newbies, in my opinion. I'll probably go back and review stuff in that light and see if I get a fresh perspective.

Dexter is waving his sword around and chatting to the women, fully going into the character created. I've not looked that way so far but doing stats on genders of anon accounts in a randed game is a bit odd to me.

Morning Amy. Obviously it's very hard from my position to convince anyone but it's completely a set up.

Added to the fact that a bunch of people seemingly failed to CFD me at end of day when I wasn't active it's a bit too on the nose, if you ask me.

I remain convinced Laura is a wolf or the SK. They are not playing with village interests based on both their posting and voting, not sure how that isn't obvious.

On your good self, I don't see much to incriminate you personally other than low posting, but that in itself can be a tactic as much as anything.

On the others

Frank is new, or at least says he is. Voted me last night. I'll probably be gone at some point today so look back on him when I'm shown as a flipped villager.

Dexter needs to go too, the roleplay stuff was cute at first. Now it's a distraction.

morning prada

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

I agree on the wolf mechanic as if it was just a simple vote switch the results are usually published. Them not appearing leads me to believe it was a bigger play than just a vote switch and the lynch results not appearing is to avoid the wolves being easily outed on thread

That'd be in line with my thinking. That also brings all the declared votes into question too. The wolves would know that we wouldn't find out the results so had the ability to lay a false trail last night. It's why I've a little hesitation on committing to go in on Prada just yet.

twas wondering that myself. think kevin started the cfd, and a few followed suit.

if it was a wolf mechanic, then there would be at least 1 wolf on the prada 'voters'.

[Magda the Maid]

If a vote reveal is just delayed, which would be my guess, then Gordon revealing he voted there isn't proving his alignment. If its a wolf mechanic, which think it is, and given the numbers they could force a vote on with the vote delay. Sk needs to hit wolves this morning or its effectively game over given the numbers at play and roles eliminated. Vernon as BG would be pivotal to remove from the board

Magda, can I check with you, which is your running theory? Is it your guess that the results are delayed for an unknown reason, or do you think that it's a wolf mechanic.

I'm personally more inclined to a wolf mechanic theory, given there was no mention of results to follow in the yeet result post.

Wolf mechanic, absolutely no reason for it to be a village one, intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo

[Magda the Maid]

For what is worth, Laura, Prada and Benji is where id lean to today. Need the sk to take a wolf or we might aswell pack up and go home

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Magda, can I check with you, which is your running theory? Is it your guess that the results are delayed for an unknown reason, or do you think that it's a wolf mechanic.

I'm personally more inclined to a wolf mechanic theory, given there was no mention of results to follow in the yeet result post.

Wolf mechanic, absolutely no reason for it to be a village one, intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo

how do you know the info is delayed rather than not coming?

[Amy the Singer]

Frank is a newbie and has acted the least suspicious of the two newbies, in my opinion. I'll probably go back and review stuff in that light and see if I get a fresh perspective.

Frank is new, or at least says he is. Voted me last night. I'll probably be gone at some point today so look back on him when I'm shown as a flipped villager.

Ah sure, why wait?

On my lookback there now, the posts to date can read easily like a new player. Interacting with the events in the game, asking questions on the thread.

Engaged with Pat/Dennis's game and voted in line with that.

Given that there's likely more intruders out there, is anyone else other than Prada raising your suspicions @Frank the Tank ?

[Boris the Fool]

Morning all, we are really up against it today as numbers getting very tight. We need the SK to so us a favour with their kill today.

I think we would all be ok agreement that Prada has to go today in order to allow us to make some sort of sense of what happened last night. Would be great if the wildcard still had powers today and could use one of these to get rid of her so we can use to lynch to focus on getting another one.

I don't need to go anywhere  I'm a villager.

This is a complete set up! I wasn't even here, got CFD'd badly which resulted in the freaking bodyguard getting lynched. How is it anything to do with me at all, I didn't vote Vernon!

People were too blasé about the voting again even miscounting the numbers they had on me, how people can't see this is complete nonsense and designed to frame me is beyond me.

So you think the people leading the CFD are wolves and knew their false votes wouldn't be published?

[Boris the Fool]

For what is worth, Laura, Prada and Benji is where id lean to today. Need the sk to take a wolf or we might aswell pack up and go home

Never thought I would be rooting for an SK but we need the wolves to not take the SK otherwise they will reach parity quicker

[Prada the Seamstress]

I don't need to go anywhere  I'm a villager.

This is a complete set up! I wasn't even here, got CFD'd badly which resulted in the freaking bodyguard getting lynched. How is it anything to do with me at all, I didn't vote Vernon!

People were too blasé about the voting again even miscounting the numbers they had on me, how people can't see this is complete nonsense and designed to frame me is beyond me.

So you think the people leading the CFD are wolves and knew their false votes wouldn't be published?

Well people are obviously lying about who they voted for or I'd be dead. It doesn't even necessarily have to be people voting me to be honest. Which is why my suspicion immediately shifted to Laura off on her own solo mission against Robin. Two nights running.

[Boris the Fool]

@Gordon the Cook - will you be playing today?

[Boris the Fool]

So you think the people leading the CFD are wolves and knew their false votes wouldn't be published?

Well people are obviously lying about who they voted for or I'd be dead. It doesn't even necessarily have to be people voting me to be honest. Which is why my suspicion immediately shifted to Laura off on her own solo mission against Robin. Two nights running.

Yes definitely more than one liar in the declared votes - we see what come about from today as with the current numbers we need to avoid killing villagers

[Prada the Seamstress]

For what is worth, Laura, Prada and Benji is where id lean to today. Need the sk to take a wolf or we might aswell pack up and go home

Never thought I would be rooting for an SK but we need the wolves to not take the SK otherwise they will reach parity quicker

Wolves have to get SK too though. We're in bad shape, but it's still salvageable, just.

Intruders: Gain parity with the Village and kill the SK

Which is why I'm going to continue to point out how ridiculous it is to immediately jump on me over this rather than at least exploring other avenues.

[Boris the Fool]

Never thought I would be rooting for an SK but we need the wolves to not take the SK otherwise they will reach parity quicker

Wolves have to get SK too though. We're in bad shape, but it's still salvageable, just.

Intruders: Gain parity with the Village and kill the SK

Which is why I'm going to continue to point out how ridiculous it is to immediately jump on me over this rather than at least exploring other avenues.

Yes I know that but if they get the SK and say there is still 4 of them left like we think then they only need 4 villagers alive to reach parity.

However if they don't get the SK then there is a good chance of the SK taking them out and therefore keeping the village numbers higher and in turn it will the wolves longer to reach the same number of players as the villagers

[Amy the Singer]

Yes definitely more than one liar in the declared votes - we see what come about from today as with the current numbers we need to avoid killing villagers

Considering this theory we'd be looking at William, Frank, Kevin (leaving out Vernon).

We've 3 known wolves with, in my mind at least, strong suspicion of a 4th. Working on the assumption that not all of the wolves will have voted as lone wolves on N1, this theory would put at least one of Prada, Frank, Dexter and myself into consideration. I'm clear for myself but I get it if others want to look at me.

Prada obviously has heat from having the most declared votes going into last night. That's either incredibly confident wolf play or else it's a set up.

Frank is a newbie and has acted the least suspicious of the two newbies, in my opinion. I'll probably go back and review stuff in that light and see if I get a fresh perspective.

Dexter is waving his sword around and chatting to the women, fully going into the character created. I've not looked that way so far but doing stats on genders of anon accounts in a randed game is a bit odd to me.

Then adding in my theory about at least one wolf not voting alone on N1 puts Frank in the centre of the Venn diagram.

[Magda the Maid]

Wolf mechanic, absolutely no reason for it to be a village one, intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo

how do you know the info is delayed rather than not coming?

I dont but removing a full nights voting history from the game would be mental. Its 50% of all information available to villagers currently. I could be wrong, If I am we are even more fucked than I originally thought

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

how do you know the info is delayed rather than not coming?

I dont but removing a full nights voting history from the game would be mental. Its 50% of all information available to villagers currently. I could be wrong, If I am we are even more fucked than I originally thought

intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo.

you seem pretty certain here.

[Dexter the Dragoon]

Morning All!

Went out for a few ales with the boys last night and wake up with a slight hangover, to this absolute mayhem!

First of all, a couple of people are asking me to break "character". I wasn't quite sure what this meant but I think perhaps you need me to drop my flirty, man about town demeanor and make use of my military expertise to tactically root out our wolves. Frankly, I agree. The wolves are making us look foolish. It's time to get serious.

You all know my feelings on Benjamin and those haven't changed. I'm quite certain he's a wolf. But here are some of my other thoughts. Please recognise that they came from a sharp and skilled mind. 

As I said there is likely to be one female. Possibly more but one is imo definite. With the lack of interest they've shown me, I wouldn't be surprised if they were all wolves. However, I feel the two most likely are Prada and Laura.  

Prada talks too much, wouldn't you all say? Trying to start silly nonsense with her cousin jibes. The top poster is always one to watch and I've been watching her. Problem is, despite all her talk she says shit all worth listening to. So I turned my attention to one of the quieter ladies. 

Laura! Who on the other hand says too little and I simply couldn't make sense of her voting for Robin on night 1. At that point there was every chance he would be mod killed. But to vote for him again last night? Well that had my wolfy sense tingling. 

I've re-read both their posts this morning and my expert opinion is: a wolf backed into a corner is a dangerous beast and Prada doth protest too much. Look at her there, defence defence defence. Prada is our she-wolf. Laura is still very much in my sights but for me Prada is a little too nervous and throwing names out left right and centre to deflect. 

Additional thoughts for now: 

To be honest, I've been watching Kevin since day 0. Why you may ask. He has an aggressive tone, easily loses the rag, little self control. A very off-putting manner. Some might even say wolf like. However on closer inspection of his posts, I think he might just take this all a little too seriously. He wants people to 'play the game' correctly and he's frustrated at not being able to catch a wolf. Well my friend, we all are. 
For now, I believe Kevin to be one of us but that doesn't mean I'm not still watching you.

I can't help wondering if one of our subs might be a wolf. Why sub them in and not Rhoda? Would the game have been lacking some fangs for without Robin? Without Gordon? My guess goes to Gordon but please remember it is... For now!... A guess.. 

More thoughts later.

[Kevin the Armorer]

That'd be in line with my thinking. That also brings all the declared votes into question too. The wolves would know that we wouldn't find out the results so had the ability to lay a false trail last night. It's why I've a little hesitation on committing to go in on Prada just yet.

twas wondering that myself. think kevin started the cfd, and a few followed suit.

if it was a wolf mechanic, then there would be at least 1 wolf on the prada 'voters'.

Why you lie?
Vernon moved first, i moved with 2 minutes to go.
I was voting dex up until 5 minutes to go, then by time i wanted to move to prada there was only two minutes left.
Cfd consisted entirely of me and the bodyguard, if you can call it a cfd
Two never moved, two others shored up from dex to prad, but were happy for dex or prada, so we’re trying to make sure of one of them.
Otherwise a 3 vote on somebody else beats both dex and prada.

[Robin the Jester]

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Declared votes in alphabetical order - I would need to get time to go back over the thread to do in order of declaration, but meetings probably won't allow for this today. 

Interesting things that I am still mulling over: 

• the wolves really did spread their votes on D1
  
• Kevin voted Prada 2 nights in a row
  
• Laura voted Robin 2 nights in a row
  
• Frank switched off Laura to Prada 
  
• Amy switched from Kevin to Benjamin
  

[Magda the Maid]

I dont but removing a full nights voting history from the game would be mental. Its 50% of all information available to villagers currently. I could be wrong, If I am we are even more fucked than I originally thought

intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo.

you seem pretty certain here.

Do you want to offer an alternative opinion here or just reiterate my stance? I am pretty certain as I dont see an upside to it being a villager power, do you?

[Frank the Tank]

Frank is new, or at least says he is. Voted me last night. I'll probably be gone at some point today so look back on him when I'm shown as a flipped villager.

Ah sure, why wait?

On my lookback there now, the posts to date can read easily like a new player. Interacting with the events in the game, asking questions on the thread.

Engaged with Pat/Dennis's game and voted in line with that.

Given that there's likely more intruders out there, is anyone else other than Prada raising your suspicions @Frank the Tank ?

Apologies I just haven't had the time/headspace to really catch up besides reading the fallout from last nights upheavel which is just mental and all kinds of confusing, not to mention unhelpful from a review point of view. 

Just to confirm I did absolutely vote Prada and will be going the same direction today. After that I'd still be suspicious of Ben.
Either way we need some luck from the SK to catch a wolf or this could be as good as over by tonight.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

twas wondering that myself. think kevin started the cfd, and a few followed suit.

if it was a wolf mechanic, then there would be at least 1 wolf on the prada 'voters'.

Why you lie?
Vernon moved first, i moved with 2 minutes to go.
I was voting dex up until 5 minutes to go, then by time i wanted to move to prada there was only two minutes left.
Cfd consisted entirely of me and the bodyguard, if you can call it a cfd
Two never moved, two others shored up from dex to prad, but were happy for dex or prada, so we’re trying to make sure of one of them.
Otherwise a 3 vote on somebody else beats both dex and prada.

i did say think. fine vernon started the move. 

they say on the internet the quickest way to get an answer is to say something incorrect. so thanks for the clarification. 

does 2 moving qualify as a cfd? i would say yes, a late move which results in someone else getting lynched.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo.

you seem pretty certain here.

Do you want to offer an alternative opinion here or just reiterate my stance? I am pretty certain as I dont see an upside to it being a villager power, do you?

its the delayed part is the issue. we dont know if the info is delayed or not coming at all.

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

Do you want to offer an alternative opinion here or just reiterate my stance? I am pretty certain as I dont see an upside to it being a villager power, do you?

its the delayed part is the issue. we dont know if the info is delayed or not coming at all.

well you seem to know the info is delayed.

[Magda the Maid]

Magda, can I check with you, which is your running theory? Is it your guess that the results are delayed for an unknown reason, or do you think that it's a wolf mechanic.

I'm personally more inclined to a wolf mechanic theory, given there was no mention of results to follow in the yeet result post.

Wolf mechanic, absolutely no reason for it to be a village one, intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo

Wolf mechanic, absolutely no reason for it to be a village one, intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo

how do you know the info is delayed rather than not coming?

how do you know the info is delayed rather than not coming?

I dont but removing a full nights voting history from the game would be mental. Its 50% of all information available to villagers currently. I could be wrong, If I am we are even more fucked than I originally thought

I dont but removing a full nights voting history from the game would be mental. Its 50% of all information available to villagers currently. I could be wrong, If I am we are even more fucked than I originally thought

intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo.

you seem pretty certain here.

intentionally delaying information which is useful to us is 100% wolf mechanic imo.

you seem pretty certain here.

Do you want to offer an alternative opinion here or just reiterate my stance? I am pretty certain as I dont see an upside to it being a villager power, do you?

Can we lynch the obvious wolf tonight

[Magda the Maid]

its the delayed part is the issue. we dont know if the info is delayed or not coming at all.

well you seem to know the info is delayed.

Is it here? No, have i made an assumption based on mechanics, absolutely yes. You're about as subtle as an 1980s Dublin bus driver

[Laura the Lace Mistress]

well you seem to know the info is delayed.

Is it here? No, have i made an assumption based on mechanics, absolutely yes. You're about as subtle as an 1980s Dublin bus driver

once you get to your destination on time is all that matters

[lorcand1990]

After the catastrophic events of the previous day, @Kevin the Armorer had a few too many at the bar. Feeling a little worse for wear, they went to use the Paddy’s Pub Toilets (not recommended at the best of times). Thankfully, they managed to avoid the glory hole in the wall and whatever lay behind it. Distracted by said hole, they stepped straight through a trapdoor.

Quick as a flash, in ran Dee & the McPoyles ran in and closed the trapdoor shut. @Kevin the Armorer was never to be seen again

@Kevin the Armorer is dead

@Kevin the Armorer was a Jabroni

[Amy the Singer]

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Declared votes in alphabetical order - I would need to get time to go back over the thread to do in order of declaration, but meetings probably won't allow for this today. 

Interesting things that I am still mulling over: 

• the wolves really did spread their votes on D1
  
• Kevin voted Prada 2 nights in a row
  
• Laura voted Robin 2 nights in a row
  
• Frank switched off Laura to Prada 
  
• Amy switched from Kevin to Benjamin
  

Happy to clarify my move. My main suspicion on D1 was Benjamin. When he said he was a newbie (rather than other players saying it for him) I moved off because of the amnesty.

Voted Kevin and then moved back to Benjamin when the amnesty ended.

Giving a pass to known and suspected newbies Frank and Benjamin (particularly after explicitly saying newbie in #361), and Vernon for tonight. Ignoring the no posters.

That means my attention turns to Kevin. Couple of things standing out to me at the minute - suggests voting for Frank on a couple of occasions after Frank had stated he was new (post #44 and #134). In post #123 claimed Benjamin outed an RV but quoted the post which draws more attention to the post. In post #166 said that Donald the Spoofer was an enemy to the wolves even though it was a flavour kill and then went on to suggest that what read to me as a joke by Prada on lynching based on the name was starting a bandwagon on Donald.

I didn't get a response to my suspicions on Kevin since this post but happy to take them now @Kevin the Armorer