Round Table Discussion Thread

[Friar Tuck]

I'm not lying, I got a false result. There are no wolves in the 3 of us who voted for Lilly.

if you flip village, then the 3 villagers will vote countess and 3 traitors will vote elsewhere. the game will be decided on a coin flip. whomever wins that coin flip will win the game, as then they will be able to force the win.

No, the wolves would hide inthe Countess wagon and try to win.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

Vote Friar

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Vote friar

[Gordon the Cook]

friar : 4 : william countess weyland moe

3 left
gordon zeena friar

the outcome is enevitable so
Viote zeena

[Friar Tuck]

I has a prize ...

[Friar Tuck]

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Vote Friar

[Gordon the Cook]

[Friar Tuck]

Vote Friar

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Day 1
Lilly (3): Friar[98], Dora[105], Edward[151]
Edward (3): Moe[107] , Weyland[114], William[138]
William (2): Zeena[104], Gordon[133]
Weyland (1): Lilly[96]
Dora (1): Countess[126]

Non-voters (1): Amy

Day 2
Edward (4): William[311], Weyland[322], Moe[323], Dora[360]
Dora (4): Friar[338], Gordon[341], Countess[344], Zeena[358]
Friar (1): Edward[333]
William (1): Amy[343]

day 3
dora: 3 : willliam, weyland, friar, countess
Friar: 2 : dora, gordon, zeena, moe

which leaves william weyland friar countess gordon zeena and moe

And since we are in end game, I shall revise my estimate of traitors up to 3.

friar is one.

so two in william weyland countess gordon zeena moe

that first kill is an oddity, and since zeena has ruled out a team shield, someone attempted to kill zeena.

if village, zeena has no reason to lie about this.
are traitors allowed to target themselves for murder? I'd answer no to this, which would clear zeena.

if it was a team shoeld, i'd be clearing zeena anyhow, so in my mind, if zeena is a traitor, I've lost any hopes at winning, well done traitor:zeena

so two in william weyland countess moe

out of them 4, i'd banish william and weyland and risk sharing the prize with zeena countess and moe.

ah, with all the information given, I've figured out night 1 kill.

zeena's clear disolves away.

zeena has said they could shield anyone.
So, they shielded someone else, and murderized that person, making for our wierd night 1 kill.
they sacrifised night 1 murder in order to make zeena all shiney and villagery.

zeena is traitor, i don't know why else we would have the odd night 1 murder save.

If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo

[Gordon the Cook]

Vote Friar

why not countess?

[Friar Tuck]

Vote Friar

why not countess?

I'm dead so why vote for someone else?

[Necro]

Forgive yourself Friar for you have sinned.

The masses have spoken




And Friar Tuck has been banished to the pits of hell. Or just out of the game, whichever is preferable.


Friar Tuck was....







Friar Tuck was a TRAITOR

[Countess Markievicz]

Jeez, talk about being gaslighted…

[Necro]

Now that Friar Tuck has been banished, I have to ask the question....

Do you want to end the game?

Please vote Yes or No.

If we have a single No in our midst we continue to the next banishment for which voting occurs between 6 and 7 pm.

[Necro]

William the Grave Robber votes to continue the game by proxy vote.

Therefore....





Next banishment vote will occur between 6 and 7 pm.

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

Vote No

[Gordon the Cook]

oh, i thought we would have found out everyone's answer to that question, that's a bit disappointing.

[Necro]

oh, i thought we would have found out everyone's answer to that question, that's a bit disappointing.

I can't edit it for TV to have a single No come up last so it becomes a bit redundant 

But if you prefer I will not announce we are continuing until everyone has voted the next time.

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

My next thoughts are william and weyland. Interestingly they have both voted the same the whole which makes my think only one wolf there

[Countess Markievicz]

I will not be around between 6 and 7pm today. For me it’s between William and Weyland, maybe Gordon at a push. William has not posted since 6pm yesterDay but managed to submit a proxy vote and No today.

[Weyland the Blacksmith]

Following that I would keep Countess as a faithful and also Zeena.

Leaves William, Gordon and Moe for me.

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Yeah I agree with William or Weyland, has to be our best bet

[Gordon the Cook]

#97
16-01-2023, 05:15 PM



My thoughts at this stage:

Amy the Singer - an inactive player always makes me suspicious so wolf lean here
Countess Markievicz - not enough to go on here
Dora the Explorer - neutral at the minute
Edward the Barber - the gifs put me off but post #91 suggests village
Friar Tuck - im village
Gordon the Cook - village
Lilly the Millennial - wolf lean
Mick the Drunk - dead village
Moe the Innkeeper - neutral at the minute
Weyland the Blacksmith - wolf lean
William the Grave Robber - wolf lean
Zeena Warrior Princess - village

[Gordon the Cook]

#114
16-01-2023, 06:10 PM

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Post Counts (as of post #104)

Amy the Singer - 0
Countess Markievicz - 2
Dora the Explorer - 5
Edward the Barber - 17
Friar Tuck - 5
Gordon the Cook - 17
Lilly the Millennial - 12
Mick the Drunk - 2
Moe the Innkeeper - 11
Weyland the Blacksmith - 6
William the Grave Robber - 5
Zeena Warrior Princess - 9

Leans

Amy the Singer - None, not here to assess
Countess Markievicz - Either, can't read off 2 posts
Dora the Explorer - Either, not much to see yet
Edward the Barber - Traitor, Mentions a good man must wear a mask first post
Friar Tuck - Faithful, hard to get a read yet
Gordon the Cook - Traitor, trying to rig the challenge feels devious and like a manipulation attempt, doesn't sit right with me
Lilly the Millennial - Faithful, trying to play the Gen Z, doesn't know herself at all
Mick the Drunk - Faithful, murdered
Moe the Innkeeper - Either, could be hiding in asking about game mechanics, could be genuine
Weyland the Blacksmith - Either, possibly pocketing Gordon, or just grateful for some hints
William the Grave Robber - Faithful, but I would say that
Zeena Warrior Princess - Either, pushed back at Gordon, some fluff

Ok, I reckon with 12 players, it's most likely 2 Traitors, possibly with a conversion down the line. The show starts with 3 Traitors of 22 players, 3 in 12 seems awfully unbalanced.

Just noticed the weirdness of this post, traitors pocket village, but william has me as traitor, but still uses the pocketing excuse on weyland.

I should be either if the pocketing excuse is to hold up, but he has me as traitor.

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Friar had William as their best wolf lean (after Dora) when I asked yesterday morning

[Gordon the Cook]

ah, with all the information given, I've figured out night 1 kill.

zeena's clear disolves away.

zeena has said they could shield anyone.
So, they shielded someone else, and murderized that person, making for our wierd night 1 kill.
they sacrifised night 1 murder in order to make zeena all shiney and villagery.

zeena is traitor, i don't know why else we would have the odd night 1 murder save.

If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo

But, then there is this that we could find.

#232
17-01-2023, 04:28 PM

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Well I said I won and used a shield on myself last night and someone was attacked and shielded last night, no one else has claimed to have won a shield.

This was before you won the 2nd shield, so anybody else could have won the 2nd shield, and said it could be used on anyone, so best get out ahead of that and say you used it on yourself. A traitor has no need to use it on themselves, so what good is the shield to the traitors? Then comes the plan to sacrifice your kill for your golden ticket.

[Gordon the Cook]

Friar had William as their best wolf lean (after Dora) when I asked yesterday morning

yeah, but their reasoning for william was non existant when i asked.

Amy simply because of no posts. Lilly because most of the posts were fluff, looked like they were coasting. Weyland because of the apparent pocketing. William again wasn't adding much.

Im not sure where I'm at today because a lot of theories and new info has come to light but Countess is coming on my radar. Zeena still seems very village to me so I can accept her prize claim more easily.

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

My wolf lean now in order

William - The voting, especially on Dora
Weyland - I think either Weyland or William are wolf, I'd be inclined to say not both
Countess and Gordon - about the same, again I think one of these 2 could be wolf as I don't think Moe is
Moe - His vote yesterday makes me think village
Me - Village

So I think it is william or weyland and countess or Gordon

[Moe the Innkeeper]

Friar had William as their best wolf lean (after Dora) when I asked yesterday morning

yeah, but their reasoning for william was non existant when i asked.

Amy simply because of no posts. Lilly because most of the posts were fluff, looked like they were coasting. Weyland because of the apparent pocketing. William again wasn't adding much.

Im not sure where I'm at today because a lot of theories and new info has come to light but Countess is coming on my radar. Zeena still seems very village to me so I can accept her prize claim more easily.

I couldn't get a proper answer out of Friar either, I asked twice & couldn't make sense of it.. Sorry I don't know how to quote from the other thread but it was from post 307 onwards

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo

But, then there is this that we could find.

#232
17-01-2023, 04:28 PM

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Well I said I won and used a shield on myself last night and someone was attacked and shielded last night, no one else has claimed to have won a shield.

This was before you won the 2nd shield, so anybody else could have won the 2nd shield, and said it could be used on anyone, so best get out ahead of that and say you used it on yourself. A traitor has no need to use it on themselves, so what good is the shield to the traitors? Then comes the plan to sacrifice your kill for your golden ticket.

I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield? 

Who is your most wolf lean now? Mine is William or Weyland

Who are you voting for next? I'm voting William or Weyland

Get a bus on me if you want, then go for hopefully a traitor. We have one more mislynch? If that is correct, use it on me if you want.

[William the Grave Robber]

Apologies for my absence, had a migraine yesterday, and got to bed very late so knew there was a good chance I'd miss this mornings voting, so put in a proxy on Friar as well as a vote to continue the game. Trying to properly catch up now. Off a quick read -

Countess - Slight Lean Traitor, claimed a prize that doesn't appear in the show, results are not alignment indicative if it was won, possible Zeena was targeted for murder as Traitors assumed there was only 1 prize (ie Countesses prize)
Gordon - Lean Faithful, hasn't done anything suspicious since day 1 imo, and given that I misinterpreted Edward, probably same here
Moe - Either, not sure he's made any waves in either direction
William - Faithful (though I can see how my tunnel on Edward and disappearing for 2 votes is read as suspicious)
Weyland - Either, need to read back
Zeena - Lean Faithful, aside from Countess and Friar claiming non-show prizes, she's the only one to claim what is a legitimare show prize, and it was used as per Necro's post morning after.

[Countess Markievicz]

Apologies for my absence, had a migraine yesterday, and got to bed very late so knew there was a good chance I'd miss this mornings voting, so put in a proxy on Friar as well as a vote to continue the game. Trying to properly catch up now. Off a quick read -

Countess - Slight Lean Traitor, claimed a prize that doesn't appear in the show, results are not alignment indicative if it was won, possible Zeena was targeted for murder as Traitors assumed there was only 1 prize (ie Countesses prize)
Gordon - Lean Faithful, hasn't done anything suspicious since day 1 imo, and given that I misinterpreted Edward, probably same here
Moe - Either, not sure he's made any waves in either direction
William - Faithful (though I can see how my tunnel on Edward and disappearing for 2 votes is read as suspicious)
Weyland - Either, need to read back
Zeena - Lean Faithful, aside from Countess and Friar claiming non-show prizes, she's the only one to claim what is a legitimare show prize, and it was used as per Necro's post morning after.

1. This is a mafia game inspired by the show. Were there proxy votes in the show? Friar was a traitor, so my info was correct.
2. Zeena was targeted N1, I did not claim my prize until D2

[Gordon the Cook]

But, then there is this that we could find.


This was before you won the 2nd shield, so anybody else could have won the 2nd shield, and said it could be used on anyone, so best get out ahead of that and say you used it on yourself. A traitor has no need to use it on themselves, so what good is the shield to the traitors? Then comes the plan to sacrifice your kill for your golden ticket.

I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield? 

Who is your most wolf lean now? Mine is William or Weyland

Who are you voting for next? I'm voting William or Weyland

Get a bus on me if you want, then go for hopefully a traitor. We have one more mislynch? If that is correct, use it on me if you want.

>I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield?

At the time of the quote, you had not won the 2nd shield, therefore "anybody else could have won the 2nd shield", and when they did, they would have told us that it could be used on anyone. That's why you were honest about .

So, this sentence "If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo" was a lie.

[Gordon the Cook]

Apologies for my absence, had a migraine yesterday, and got to bed very late so knew there was a good chance I'd miss this mornings voting, so put in a proxy on Friar as well as a vote to continue the game. Trying to properly catch up now. Off a quick read -

Countess - Slight Lean Traitor, claimed a prize that doesn't appear in the show, results are not alignment indicative if it was won, possible Zeena was targeted for murder as Traitors assumed there was only 1 prize (ie Countesses prize)
Gordon - Lean Faithful, hasn't done anything suspicious since day 1 imo, and given that I misinterpreted Edward, probably same here
Moe - Either, not sure he's made any waves in either direction
William - Faithful (though I can see how my tunnel on Edward and disappearing for 2 votes is read as suspicious)
Weyland - Either, need to read back
Zeena - Lean Faithful, aside from Countess and Friar claiming non-show prizes, she's the only one to claim what is a legitimare show prize, and it was used as per Necro's post morning after.

1. This is a mafia game inspired by the show. Were there proxy votes in the show? Friar was a traitor, so my info was correct.
2. Zeena was targeted N1, I did not claim my prize until D2

So? If you were a traitor, they'd know that you have prize, doesn't matter when you claimed it. So targeting zeena before you claimed is valid, for that way of thinking, which i don't agree with, but the line of though is valid all the same.

[Gordon the Cook]

Was Amy offed because she named two traitors in one post? On the money.

#241
17-01-2023, 05:04 PM

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Did @Zeena Warrior Princess confirm her shield prize win last night in round table thread ?

My head is pushing for @Friar Tuck ( not liking my nude singing ) @Zeena Warrior Princess and @Countess Markievicz as did both win prizes

[Gordon the Cook]

 
#273
17-01-2023, 06:00 PM

(17-01-2023, 05:53)
If we believe Countess and she's Faithful, it's a waste of a banishment to target her, as we're still left with 2 Traitors and 3 possible culprits in which there might only be 1. Though we would know she hadn't lied.

If we don't believe Countess, and she's a Traitor, we banish her, and she's lied to protect her fellow Traitor, then we have 3 in the clear.

But there's also a possibility that she is a Traitor and is telling the truth!

How do you know there's 2 traitors?

Friar trying to stitch up William.

[William the Grave Robber]

Looks like I'll be intermittent tonight too! Going to put a proxy vote on Countess, and if she flips Traitor, I think we have them, but I'm happy to continue on if there are still question marks over others (including myself)

[Zeena Warrior Princess]

I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield? 

Who is your most wolf lean now? Mine is William or Weyland

Who are you voting for next? I'm voting William or Weyland

Get a bus on me if you want, then go for hopefully a traitor. We have one more mislynch? If that is correct, use it on me if you want.

>I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield?

At the time of the quote, you had not won the 2nd shield, therefore "anybody else could have won the 2nd shield", and when they did, they would have told us that it could be used on anyone. That's why you were honest about .

So, this sentence "If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo" was a lie.

Again I'm lost.

The above sentence in bold I made today in reference to your theory that I could be a wolf, won the 1st shield, give it to a villager and then selected them for murder so that it would look like I was attacked, hence not a wolf

Now, if I did the above, I wouldn't have said today that I could have given the shield to anyone, I would have said that I could only use it on myself, and given most ww games you can't or its against the spirit of the game for wolves to attack their own to make a wolf look village, and that would have blown your theory out of the water.

I said I could have given it to anyone because it is true. and I have nothing to hide.

[Countess Markievicz]

1. This is a mafia game inspired by the show. Were there proxy votes in the show? Friar was a traitor, so my info was correct.
2. Zeena was targeted N1, I did not claim my prize until D2

So? If you were a traitor, they'd know that you have prize, doesn't matter when you claimed it. So targeting zeena before you claimed is valid, for that way of thinking, which i don't agree with, but the line of though is valid all the same.

It makes no sense. If Zeena is faithful, she’d have no reason to lie about receiving the shield and so traitors would know she’s being honest. So even if Traitors somehow knew I’d won a prize, that means nothing for Zeena and the shield, so murdering her was sub-optimal.
If you’re Faithful, vote the player you think is a traitor, not this lazy rubbish you just made up which makes no sense.