(05-08-2021, 12:36 PM)ShaneU Wrote: I reckon there's a wolf in one of the HeyV voters (ceejay or JGF) I think they only made one post before I stepped in? A very soft target. I'll be voting one of these

(05-08-2021, 01:02 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 12:36 PM)ShaneU Wrote: I reckon there's a wolf in one of the HeyV voters (ceejay or JGF) I think they only made one post before I stepped in? A very soft target. I'll be voting one of these

You think either myself or ceejay only made one post before your sub in? I don't know what game you're reading to come to that conclusion

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast

(05-08-2021, 01:06 PM)ShaneU Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:02 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: You think either myself or ceejay only made one post before your sub in? I don't know what game you're reading to come to that conclusion

I was talking about HeyV. I checked back and they actually made about 4 or 5 posts, all were about being totally confused as to what is happening. As I said, an easy target. And the wolves already munched another new player at the first opportunity so they've no issue being evil remorseless feckers haha

(05-08-2021, 01:26 PM)Clarabel Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast

Neo would take out qb for 2 reasons, thought she had a role or thought it would be better with an experienced player gone.

Neo was the one who didn't really go back and answer Triggers questions correctly and basically voted him off to  stop him ruffle feathers exactly as Trigger said.  There was so much OMGTMUS (or whatever the fuck that is) about it.

(05-08-2021, 01:09 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast

This is my thing today - I'm not backing Neo by any means - I said yesterday I usually town read him nearly straight from the start and I'm just not getting that vibe this match. But it seems madness for a wolf to munch the only other person on the wagon for a village lynch. That doesn't add up in my head at all. But it is Neo...

He jumped really quickly on the Trigger post about the 'TMI' or whatever that was. I know quickbeam said he usually find Neo to be an enigmatic player and I can't say I disagree but I think it's usually less jumpy and not based on one post. It just doesn't read like village Neo to me. I feel like he would usually ask more questions to Trigger in that situation, pulling more info out and forcing the wolf to back themselves into a corner. But he didn't. Jr just jumped right in and said right I'm voting trigger and I'm voting again at 9:59 just in case.
I also thought that was weird because I don't really think we knew enough about where people were voting at that stage to know whether it was going to be a tie?

(05-08-2021, 01:27 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:26 PM)Clarabel Wrote: Neo would take out qb for 2 reasons, thought she had a role or thought it would be better with an experienced player gone.

Neo was the one who didn't really go back and answer Triggers questions correctly and basically voted him off to  stop him ruffle feathers exactly as Trigger said.  There was so much OMGTMUS (or whatever the fuck that is) about it.

Wtf is omgtmus

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast

(05-08-2021, 01:33 PM)Clarabel Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast

Wait why would neo be exposed here?

(05-08-2021, 12:48 PM)ShaneU Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 12:43 PM)cee_jay Wrote: I can't say why JGF voted there. But if you had subbed on yesterday @ShaneU who would you have voted for and why? You had no previous day votes to go on...

Tbh it probably would have been one of the two voters for Trigger as I didn't think he was a wolf.

(05-08-2021, 01:28 PM)Clarabel Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:09 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: This is my thing today - I'm not backing Neo by any means - I said yesterday I usually town read him nearly straight from the start and I'm just not getting that vibe this match. But it seems madness for a wolf to munch the only other person on the wagon for a village lynch. That doesn't add up in my head at all. But it is Neo...

He jumped really quickly on the Trigger post about the 'TMI' or whatever that was. I know quickbeam said he usually find Neo to be an enigmatic player and I can't say I disagree but I think it's usually less jumpy and not based on one post. It just doesn't read like village Neo to me. I feel like he would usually ask more questions to Trigger in that situation, pulling more info out and forcing the wolf to back themselves into a corner. But he didn't. Jr just jumped right in and said right I'm voting trigger and I'm voting again at 9:59 just in case.
I also thought that was weird because I don't really think we knew enough about where people were voting at that stage to know whether it was going to be a tie?

JGF why are you defending other players?  That's a really wolfy thing to do.

There were 2 players, I wouldn't call that a wagon....

(05-08-2021, 02:28 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: Could I interest anyone in a Clarabel lynch this evening? Now that her posting has calmed down enough from the quote-tastrophe yesterday, none of her stuff makes much sense except that Neo is playing weird

(05-08-2021, 02:30 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Yesterday evening's state of play... On thread we knew the following votes:
HeyV - CJ & JGF
Trigger - QB & Neo (with Neo's assertion he was going to recast at seconds to 9pm also)
nothing - HeyV (Neo posted this as he had seen the votes)
CJ - Trigger

Had Clara, Ecto and nothing declared their votes beforehand?

(04-08-2021, 08:28 PM)nothing Wrote: I've put a vote on Neowise, I'm annoyed, expecting others to clearly explain their positions without explaining their own properly. Also I'm still grumpy.

(05-08-2021, 02:33 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Pretty sure I did yeah and Clara declared hers before book club. Not sure on Nothing but easy enough to check back

(05-08-2021, 01:09 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast

This is my thing today - I'm not backing Neo by any means - I said yesterday I usually town read him nearly straight from the start and I'm just not getting that vibe this match. But it seems madness for a wolf to munch the only other person on the wagon for a village lynch. That doesn't add up in my head at all. But it is Neo...

He jumped really quickly on the Trigger post about the 'TMI' or whatever that was. I know quickbeam said he usually find Neo to be an enigmatic player and I can't say I disagree but I think it's usually less jumpy and not based on one post. It just doesn't read like village Neo to me. I feel like he would usually ask more questions to Trigger in that situation, pulling more info out and forcing the wolf to back themselves into a corner. But he didn't. Jr just jumped right in and said right I'm voting trigger and I'm voting again at 9:59 just in case.
I also thought that was weird because I don't really think we knew enough about where people were voting at that stage to know whether it was going to be a tie?

(04-08-2021, 08:36 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Is this because I said I was suspicious of you earlier? If it makes you feel better, I've changed my mind. 

My vote is on Nothing. I've been  reading Trigger as village and while I initially thought his post about Nothing was strange, his explanation made sense.

(05-08-2021, 02:38 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Tis... Will have a look later once my day of meeting hell finishes. 

I'd really like to hear from @nothing and @ShaneU as to their reads on the different players as it stands.

(05-08-2021, 02:38 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Tis... Will have a look later once my day of meeting hell finishes. 

I'd really like to hear from @nothing and @ShaneU as to their reads on the different players as it stands.

(05-08-2021, 02:39 PM)Neowise Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 01:09 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: This is my thing today - I'm not backing Neo by any means - I said yesterday I usually town read him nearly straight from the start and I'm just not getting that vibe this match. But it seems madness for a wolf to munch the only other person on the wagon for a village lynch. That doesn't add up in my head at all. But it is Neo...

He jumped really quickly on the Trigger post about the 'TMI' or whatever that was. I know quickbeam said he usually find Neo to be an enigmatic player and I can't say I disagree but I think it's usually less jumpy and not based on one post. It just doesn't read like village Neo to me. I feel like he would usually ask more questions to Trigger in that situation, pulling more info out and forcing the wolf to back themselves into a corner. But he didn't. Jr just jumped right in and said right I'm voting trigger and I'm voting again at 9:59 just in case.
I also thought that was weird because I don't really think we knew enough about where people were voting at that stage to know whether it was going to be a tie?

I said i was voting at 20:59:59 because i wanted my vote to be worth two votes.
I had no idea it would be a tie, but as it was, my vote was worth two votes, exactly as i said. Anybody else could have challenged me to try to win last vote. Did anybody?
Why not?
I thought I had seen an alignment indicative post by trigger, I hopped on it and backed my own convictions. I was wrong. Its not like that has never happened before.
But don't go shading my double vote attempt, any one of ye could have tried for it, and for all i know, a wolf could have been trying and i beat them to it.

(05-08-2021, 03:06 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 02:39 PM)Neowise Wrote: I said i was voting at 20:59:59 because i wanted my vote to be worth two votes.
I had no idea it would be a tie, but as it was, my vote was worth two votes, exactly as i said. Anybody else could have challenged me to try to win last vote. Did anybody?
Why not?
I thought I had seen an alignment indicative post by trigger, I hopped on it and backed my own convictions. I was wrong. Its not like that has never happened before.
But don't go shading my double vote attempt, any one of ye could have tried for it, and for all i know, a wolf could have been trying and i beat them to it.

I still don't understand the two votes thing? Like voting again doesn't count as another vote, just moves you to last voted - am I missing something here??

Of course we could have tried it... But I wouldn't bother unless I was sure I had a wolf. I didn't see anything in Triggers posting yesterday to indicate wolfiness but I thought well, maybe Neo knows better than I do. We can all make mistakes but this post is really defensive and smells off to me.

Quote:I still don't understand the two votes thing? Like voting again doesn't count as another vote, just moves you to last voted - am I missing something here??

(05-08-2021, 02:28 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: Could I interest anyone in a Clarabel lynch this evening? Now that her posting has calmed down enough from the quote-tastrophe yesterday, none of her stuff makes much sense except that Neo is playing weird

(05-08-2021, 03:06 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: I partly think Clara is a wolf but I'm leaning towards wolf Neo and they're clearly not wolves together. my brain is a hot mess in this game

(05-08-2021, 03:18 PM)Clarabel Wrote: Clara - Villagh


Ecto- villagh
CJ - Village

JGF - moving towards village.  I can't see Neo and her on the same team
Shane - So heyV is village then why not modkill?  Is it cause the numbers were so tight? 
Nothing - not declaring....hmmm..I need to do an ISO.  wish me luck with figuring out how to do that


WOLF
Neo -

(05-08-2021, 03:18 PM)Clarabel Wrote: Clara - Villagh


Ecto- villagh
CJ - Village

JGF - moving towards village.  I can't see Neo and her on the same team
Shane - So heyV is village then why not modkill?  Is it cause the numbers were so tight? 
Nothing - not declaring....hmmm..I need to do an ISO.  wish me luck with figuring out how to do that


WOLF
Neo -

(05-08-2021, 03:59 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 03:18 PM)Clarabel Wrote: Clara - Villagh


Ecto- villagh
CJ - Village

JGF - moving towards village.  I can't see Neo and her on the same team
Shane - So heyV is village then why not modkill?  Is it cause the numbers were so tight? 
Nothing - not declaring....hmmm..I need to do an ISO.  wish me luck with figuring out how to do that


WOLF
Neo -

Is there a scenario whereby JGF is a wolf and Neo is not a wolf? 
The modkill... Shane had volunteered to be a sub I think. The numbers are tight, we can't presume it was because Wolf. There could be other reasons also. Declaring the wolves are those who voted for "known" villagers (Shane earlier) is not a reason why someone is a wolf. Very weak reasoning there imo. You voted for my character, so you are a wolf? Nah, not buying. Very lazy read. 
nothing did declare... I was asking if she had or not last night, Ecto quoted her post. 

QB... They are a strong player, I can see why the wolves would want them gone. They spotted things in the game, and people listened. It leaves Neo exposed, I would prefer if Neo stuck around today and did some reads to help out the village rather than just coming on and saying I messed up.

(05-08-2021, 03:11 PM)Neowise Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 03:06 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: I still don't understand the two votes thing? Like voting again doesn't count as another vote, just moves you to last voted - am I missing something here??

Of course we could have tried it... But I wouldn't bother unless I was sure I had a wolf. I didn't see anything in Triggers posting yesterday to indicate wolfiness but I thought well, maybe Neo knows better than I do. We can all make mistakes but this post is really defensive and smells off to me.

Quote:I still don't understand the two votes thing? Like voting again doesn't count as another vote, just moves you to last voted - am I missing something here??

yes, you are missing something.

Nominee	votes	Voter
Trigger	2	quickbeam, Neowise
HeyV	2	cee_jay, JohnGreenFan
nothing	2	HeyV ShaneU, Ectoplasm

3 wagons were tied on two votes each, but my vote was worth 2 votes, so 3 votes beats the other 2 votes wagons.

(05-08-2021, 03:11 PM)Neowise Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 03:06 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: I still don't understand the two votes thing? Like voting again doesn't count as another vote, just moves you to last voted - am I missing something here??

Of course we could have tried it... But I wouldn't bother unless I was sure I had a wolf. I didn't see anything in Triggers posting yesterday to indicate wolfiness but I thought well, maybe Neo knows better than I do. We can all make mistakes but this post is really defensive and smells off to me.

Quote:I still don't understand the two votes thing? Like voting again doesn't count as another vote, just moves you to last voted - am I missing something here??

yes, you are missing something.

Nominee	votes	Voter
Trigger	2	quickbeam, Neowise
HeyV	2	cee_jay, JohnGreenFan
nothing	2	HeyV ShaneU, Ectoplasm

3 wagons were tied on two votes each, but my vote was worth 2 votes, so 3 votes beats the other 2 votes wagons.

(05-08-2021, 04:19 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 03:59 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Is there a scenario whereby JGF is a wolf and Neo is not a wolf? 
The modkill... Shane had volunteered to be a sub I think. The numbers are tight, we can't presume it was because Wolf. There could be other reasons also. Declaring the wolves are those who voted for "known" villagers (Shane earlier) is not a reason why someone is a wolf. Very weak reasoning there imo. You voted for my character, so you are a wolf? Nah, not buying. Very lazy read. 
nothing did declare... I was asking if she had or not last night, Ecto quoted her post. 

QB... They are a strong player, I can see why the wolves would want them gone. They spotted things in the game, and people listened. It leaves Neo exposed, I would prefer if Neo stuck around today and did some reads to help out the village rather than just coming on and saying I messed up.

I can see a scenario where that happens. I'm not 100% convinced on either being village anyway, definitely in my neutral pile. Clara makes a decent argument for Neo but the munch on QB argues against it. 

As far as ShaneU, I agree with the lack of reads. It's all a bit too surface but I scoffed at the idea that Nothing and HeyV were on the same team yesterday, yet so far today I haven't seen any analysis from Nothing...which has a feel of laying low and hoping for the best.

(05-08-2021, 04:19 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 03:11 PM)Neowise Wrote: yes, you are missing something.

Nominee	votes	Voter
Trigger	2	quickbeam, Neowise
HeyV	2	cee_jay, JohnGreenFan
nothing	2	HeyV ShaneU, Ectoplasm

3 wagons were tied on two votes each, but my vote was worth 2 votes, so 3 votes beats the other 2 votes wagons.

Just so I am 100% clear. Are you going to have two votes in tonight's lynch.