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RE: The Rant Thread - Leg End Reject - 28-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 07:17 PM)Zaph Wrote: Currently waiting the mandatory 15 minutes after getting my booster.  It's absolutely packed here (Swords).
When I got the first 2 I snuck out as soon as they gave me back my card. Big Grin


RE: The Rant Thread - quickbeam - 28-11-2021

I won't bother with a booster. I don't see enough people to make any side effects worth it for me. Was pretty knocked out by my initial two.


RE: The Rant Thread - ari101 - 28-11-2021

I'd take a third tomorrow if I could get it pac I got to skip the queue due to being higher risk in H1, now I'm back in my age cohort, so although it's been six months, I'll probably have to wait til the new year before they give me another one  Confused


RE: The Rant Thread - Zaph - 28-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 07:43 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote:
(28-11-2021, 07:17 PM)Zaph Wrote: Currently waiting the mandatory 15 minutes after getting my booster.  It's absolutely packed here (Swords).
When I got the first 2 I snuck out as soon as they gave me back my card. Big Grin

I saw a guy trying to do that and he was intercepted pretty quickly and made sit. Big Grin


RE: The Rant Thread - quickbeam - 28-11-2021

I actually rather enjoyed my 15 minutes of sitting. It was nice to do absolutely nothing for a short time. I didn't even take out the phone or a book.


RE: The Rant Thread - Diamonds of Frost - 28-11-2021

I'm done with them. Part of me wishes I had waited longer to take the booster. The 3 of them knocked the stuffing out of me. Although I did get a lovely day off work on Thursday Big Grin


RE: The Rant Thread - Diamonds of Frost - 28-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 08:37 PM)quickbeam Wrote: I actually rather enjoyed my 15 minutes of sitting.  It was nice to do absolutely nothing for a short time.  I didn't even take out the phone or a book.
That was me in the pharmacy recently. The girl was all apologies and I was like "no happy out sitting around" Big Grin


RE: The Rant Thread - Diamonds of Frost - 28-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 08:18 PM)ari101 Wrote: I'd take a third tomorrow if I could get it pac I got to skip the queue due to being higher risk in H1, now I'm back in my age cohort, so although it's been six months, I'll probably have to wait til the new year before they give me another one  Confused
Even though you are high risk ari? I'm not sure how the roll out this time works.


RE: The Rant Thread - ari101 - 28-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 08:41 PM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote:
(28-11-2021, 08:18 PM)ari101 Wrote: I'd take a third tomorrow if I could get it pac I got to skip the queue due to being higher risk in H1, now I'm back in my age cohort, so although it's been six months, I'll probably have to wait til the new year before they give me another one  Confused
Even though you are high risk ari? I'm not sure how the roll out this time works.

I was considered at risk/ immunocompromised when I got the first two jabs due to health issues and treatments, but any remaining health issues now are not high risk for Covid and my immunocompromised status officially ceased in July by Covid vaccine rules! I'm struggling to get my general health and fitness back but no longer considered sickly! Big Grin (Probably partly a rant for the happy thread, I'm working on it... pac )


RE: The Rant Thread - dawg - 28-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 10:16 PM)ari101 Wrote: ...
I was considered at risk/ immunocompromised when I got the first two jabs due to health issues and treatments, but any remaining health issues now are not high risk for Covid and my immunocompromised status officially ceased in July by Covid vaccine rules! I'm struggling to get my general health and fitness back but no longer considered sickly! Big Grin (Probably partly a rant for the happy thread, I'm working on it... pac )
@ari101
I got the opposite...first two were per age group, last one was just under 5 months later citing 'immunocomp status'. ( My immuno status has not changed in the last few years ).  Where are the 'walk in' vax centres that are reported to have been set up ?


RE: The Rant Thread - ari101 - 28-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 10:46 PM)dawg Wrote:
(28-11-2021, 10:16 PM)ari101 Wrote: ...
I was considered at risk/ immunocompromised when I got the first two jabs due to health issues and treatments, but any remaining health issues now are not high risk for Covid and my immunocompromised status officially ceased in July by Covid vaccine rules! I'm struggling to get my general health and fitness back but no longer considered sickly! Big Grin (Probably partly a rant for the happy thread, I'm working on it... pac )
@ari101
I got the opposite...first two were per age group, last one was just under 5 months later citing 'immunocomp status'. ( My immuno status has not changed in the last few years ).  Where are the 'walk in' vax centres that are reported to have been set up ?

Glad you got a booster even if it is because they consider you sickly  Undecided


RE: The Rant Thread - dawg - 29-11-2021

Mad, isnt it !

Another TV puff for 'walk in' centers just now, but where are they ?


RE: The Rant Thread - cee_jay - 29-11-2021

(29-11-2021, 12:09 AM)dawg Wrote: Mad, isnt it !

Another TV puff for 'walk in' centers just now, but where are they ?
My mam got her booster yesterday morning in Limerick- walk in centre for those 60-69. She was there for it opening at 8:15, and was back home by 9am. No side effects, and she was completely knocked sideways from her 2nd AZ.


RE: The Rant Thread - Barna77 - 29-11-2021

I'm having second thoughts about my Christmas trip.  Confused


RE: The Rant Thread - E.N. - 29-11-2021

(29-11-2021, 12:09 AM)dawg Wrote: Mad, isnt it !

Another TV puff for 'walk in' centers just now, but where are they ?

https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/get-the-vaccine/find-a-covid-19-vaccination-centre/

Drove past Citywest on Saturday and cars were backed up well down the motorway, apparently some were waiting 5hrs for their jab. Didn't see anything written about yesterday so I presume they've sorted it out there


RE: The Rant Thread - jp liz v1 - 29-11-2021

(29-11-2021, 11:51 AM)Barna77 Wrote: I'm having second thoughts about my Christmas trip.  Confused

To where?


RE: The Rant Thread - Neowise - 29-11-2021

(28-11-2021, 07:43 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote:
(28-11-2021, 07:17 PM)Zaph Wrote: Currently waiting the mandatory 15 minutes after getting my booster.  It's absolutely packed here (Swords).
When I got the first 2 I snuck out as soon as they gave me back my card. Big Grin

nobody is going to stop you, you don't need to sneak.
The 15 minutes is so that if you have any bad accute reaction to the injectin, you are near many professional health staff on hand who have epinepherine injections and dephibrilators etc close by to make sure you have the top care.

If you 'sneak' out, and hop on the dart or in your car and then have a bad reaction to the jab :eek:


edit: just read zaph saying they stopped someone.
The two times i've been in the aviva, its been fully self service from what I could see, nobody stopping anybody and everybody looking after themselves.

when i got the flu jab in work, both this year and last, it was the same, please stay in the office for 15 minutes after the jab just so if i have bad reaction, i'm close by the nurse and meds.


RE: The Rant Thread - Barna77 - 30-11-2021

(29-11-2021, 04:40 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote:
(29-11-2021, 11:51 AM)Barna77 Wrote: I'm having second thoughts about my Christmas trip.  Confused

To where?
To the US


Jesus I need some sleep


RE: The Rant Thread - jp liz v1 - 01-12-2021

(30-11-2021, 06:34 PM)Barna77 Wrote:
(29-11-2021, 04:40 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: To where?
To the US


Jesus I need some sleep

Had you booked and paid for? I always wanted to go to New York for Christmas


RE: The Rant Thread - Tigger - 01-12-2021

(29-11-2021, 05:49 PM)Neowise Wrote:
(28-11-2021, 07:43 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: When I got the first 2 I snuck out as soon as they gave me back my card. Big Grin

nobody is going to stop you, you don't need to sneak.
The 15 minutes is so that if you have any bad accute reaction to the injectin, you are near many professional health staff on hand who have epinepherine injections and dephibrilators etc close by to make sure you have the top care.

If you 'sneak' out, and hop on the dart or in your car and then have a bad reaction to the jab :eek:


edit: just read zaph saying they stopped someone.
The two times i've been in the aviva, its been fully self service from what I could see, nobody stopping anybody and everybody looking after themselves.

when i got the flu jab in work, both this year and last, it was the same, please stay in the office for 15 minutes after the jab just so if i have bad reaction, i'm close by the nurse and meds.
I just left straight away both times, no one looked at me and it was clear I had just had the shots. Maybe someone would tell you you should sit down but as Keith said we are not under arrest only observation.


RE: The Rant Thread - Tigger - 01-12-2021

(28-11-2021, 03:15 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote:
(28-11-2021, 11:27 AM)Butty Brennan Wrote: I was reading it online, the companies making them really shouldn't have marketed them as vaccines in the first place: a vaccine contains the germ or virus either dead or in a weakened state. The covid 'vaccines' don't contain the Covid-19 virus at all.
That was widely discussed before vaccinations started to explain the difference between mRNA and traditional vaccines. It gave rise to conspiracy theories galore!
The Astra zenica is useless to all inswnse and porpoises as anyone that has had it it's not even helping and It wasn't great on the spikey variants to start wiff

Lady at work is in poor shape is like 50  hasbweight and respiratory issues and her and her ma had the pfeizzer and then had covid recently 


Talked to them everyday during the mandate time and they were grand 
Like sick but not wrecked 
Fella at work 36  runs three times a week swims in lakes every day and generally a fit guy 
Jumped the quque and got the Astra shots in Jan and march 

Also caught teh dose and was wrecked for 14 days 
Really bad 

Seeing how bad he got and how she was I'll be getting what ever booster they gimme and now the child can have his as well as teh differ as frightening.

Wouldn't force it on anyone tho if they don't want it grand let them eat take away


RE: The Rant Thread - Barna77 - 01-12-2021

(01-12-2021, 06:52 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote:
(30-11-2021, 06:34 PM)Barna77 Wrote: To the US


Jesus I need some sleep

Had you booked and paid for? I always wanted to go to New York for Christmas
Yep, booked back in September when the US announced they'd open up the borders.

At least I can change the flights to later on in the summer (plus the price difference) and have better weather.

If they introduce quarantine on arrival, that's it, I'm done.


RE: The Rant Thread - Diamonds of Frost - 02-12-2021

(01-12-2021, 08:23 PM)Tigger Wrote:
(28-11-2021, 03:15 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: That was widely discussed before vaccinations started to explain the difference between mRNA and traditional vaccines. It gave rise to conspiracy theories galore!
The Astra zenica is useless to all inswnse and porpoises as anyone that has had it it's not even helping and It wasn't great on the spikey variants to start wiff

Lady at work is in poor shape is like 50  hasbweight and respiratory issues and her and her ma had the pfeizzer and then had covid recently 


Talked to them everyday during the mandate time and they were grand 
Like sick but not wrecked 
Fella at work 36  runs three times a week swims in lakes every day and generally a fit guy 
Jumped the quque and got the Astra shots in Jan and march 

Also caught teh dose and was wrecked for 14 days 
Really bad 

Seeing how bad he got and how she was I'll be getting what ever booster they gimme and now the child can have his as well as teh differ as frightening.

Wouldn't force it on anyone tho if they don't want it grand let them eat take away
Is your belief in AZ's lack of efficacy based purely on anecdotal evidence? 

How did the 36yr old skip the queue?


RE: The Rant Thread - dawg - 02-12-2021

(01-12-2021, 08:23 PM)Tigger Wrote: ....
Fella at work 36  runs three times a week swims in lakes every day and generally a fit guy ....

Tedious observation : many CV19 deaths are attributed to cytokine storms*. This happens to fierce healthy people with very strong immune systems ( perhaps your colleague is such a person ) .


* long before CV19 Bill Bryson ( yes, That Bill Bryson ) wrote a ( well worth reading ) book 'The Body' .  Pandemics and cytokine storms and the whole 9 yards that has played out in recent times are discussed


RE: The Rant Thread - quickbeam - 02-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 04:29 PM)dawg Wrote: * long before CV19 Bill Bryson ( yes, That Bill Bryson ) wrote a ( well worth reading ) book 'The Body' .  Pandemics and cytokine storms and the whole 9 yards that has played out in recent times are discussed

Read that last month at long last. Excellent book as all Bryson’s are.


RE: The Rant Thread - jp liz v1 - 02-12-2021

My booster got put back a week now


RE: The Rant Thread - nothing - 02-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 07:53 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: My booster got put back a week now

Feck. Did they say why?


RE: The Rant Thread - cee_jay - 02-12-2021

I sat on my glasses today. I hope specsavers can save them tomorrow. The arm of one hinge is hanging off with the arm being completely bent also.


RE: The Rant Thread - jp liz v1 - 02-12-2021

(01-12-2021, 09:58 PM)Barna77 Wrote:
(01-12-2021, 06:52 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: Had you booked and paid for? I always wanted to go to New York for Christmas
Yep, booked back in September when the US announced they'd open up the borders.

At least I can change the flights to later on in the summer (plus the price difference) and have better weather.

If they introduce quarantine on arrival, that's it, I'm done.

I hope you get there @Barna77


RE: The Rant Thread - jp liz v1 - 02-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 08:01 PM)nothing Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 07:53 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: My booster got put back a week now

Feck. Did they say why?

They got none in


RE: The Rant Thread - nothing - 02-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 09:29 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 08:01 PM)nothing Wrote: Feck. Did they say why?

They got none in

Ffs. My gp hasn't had any more doses yet for the groups announced, and can't book into a vax centre either.


RE: The Rant Thread - jp liz v1 - 02-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 10:45 PM)nothing Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 09:29 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: They got none in

Ffs. My gp hasn't had any more doses yet for the groups announced, and can't book into a vax centre either.

I saw someone say it is easier to get Garth Brooks tickets than the booster jab or pcr test


RE: The Rant Thread - Tigger - 03-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 04:00 PM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote:
(01-12-2021, 08:23 PM)Tigger Wrote: The Astra zenica is useless to all inswnse and porpoises as anyone that has had it it's not even helping and It wasn't great on the spikey variants to start wiff

Lady at work is in poor shape is like 50  hasbweight and respiratory issues and her and her ma had the pfeizzer and then had covid recently 


Talked to them everyday during the mandate time and they were grand 
Like sick but not wrecked 
Fella at work 36  runs three times a week swims in lakes every day and generally a fit guy 
Jumped the quque and got the Astra shots in Jan and march 

Also caught teh dose and was wrecked for 14 days 
Really bad 

Seeing how bad he got and how she was I'll be getting what ever booster they gimme and now the child can have his as well as teh differ as frightening.

Wouldn't force it on anyone tho if they don't want it grand let them eat take away
Is your belief in AZ's lack of efficacy based purely on anecdotal evidence? 

How did the 36yr old skip the queue?
No but I find anicdotes help, I've worked for pharma for years soefically for antigen and immunology testing and soefically as a technical specialist.My discipline is in applied science  and immunology and I suppose I dumb stuff down for general consumption.
Astra don't work for the same reason last year flu vaccine don't work

The 36 year old skipped the same way all the clerical staff of the HSE skipped


RE: The Rant Thread - Tigger - 03-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 11:38 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 10:45 PM)nothing Wrote: Ffs. My gp hasn't had any more doses yet for the groups announced, and can't book into a vax centre either.

I saw someone say it is easier to get Garth Brooks tickets than the booster jab or pcr test
PCR test is 59 yo-yos on teh private


RE: The Rant Thread - Tigger - 03-12-2021

(02-12-2021, 04:29 PM)dawg Wrote:
(01-12-2021, 08:23 PM)Tigger Wrote: ....
Fella at work 36  runs three times a week swims in lakes every day and generally a fit guy ....

Tedious observation : many CV19 deaths are attributed to cytokine storms*. This happens to fierce healthy people with very strong immune systems ( perhaps your colleague is such a person ) .


* long before CV19 Bill Bryson ( yes, That Bill Bryson ) wrote a ( well worth reading ) book 'The Body' .  Pandemics and cytokine storms and the whole 9 yards that has played out in recent times are discussed
Yeah over immune response seems to be a thing, but still believe Astra is now redundant
I know my own first dose of vaccine had no effect my second I woke op at 5 am thinking I was the victim of a hit and run Bidy pain and splitting head 
Definitely an immune response that was. Trigger of the two shots 
Not looking forward to getting basted


RE: The Rant Thread - Diamonds of Frost - 03-12-2021

(03-12-2021, 01:11 AM)Tigger Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 04:00 PM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote: Is your belief in AZ's lack of efficacy based purely on anecdotal evidence? 

How did the 36yr old skip the queue?
No but I find anicdotes help, I've worked for pharma for years soefically for antigen and immunology testing and soefically as a technical specialist.My discipline is in applied science  and immunology and I suppose I dumb stuff down for general consumption.
Astra don't work for the same reason last year flu vaccine don't work

The 36 year old skipped the same way all the clerical staff of the HSE skipped
Well free free to not dumb down here Tig  Big Grin The first two doses I received were AZ. Its quite miraculous that I have escaped getting Covid. Unless I did have it and was asymptomatic. I'm as carefree as can be when out and about so its not impossible that I picked it up.


RE: The Rant Thread - Diamonds of Frost - 03-12-2021

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/feature/everything-you-need-to-know-about-covid-19-vaccines
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58257863
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02261-8


RE: The Rant Thread - Tigger - 03-12-2021

(03-12-2021, 01:21 AM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote:
(03-12-2021, 01:11 AM)Tigger Wrote: No but I find anicdotes help, I've worked for pharma for years soefically for antigen and immunology testing and soefically as a technical specialist.My discipline is in applied science  and immunology and I suppose I dumb stuff down for general consumption.
Astra don't work for the same reason last year flu vaccine don't work

The 36 year old skipped the same way all the clerical staff of the HSE skipped
Well free free to not dumb down here Tig  Big Grin The first two doses I received were AZ. Its quite miraculous that I have escaped getting Covid. Unless I did have it and was asymptomatic. I'm as carefree as can be when out and about so its not impossible that I picked it up.
Loads of people are natural immune 
Woman caught it and her daughter caught it hubby is teacher and got daily PCR and didn't caught it in same house 
Son same only three weeks later now has it and hubby got it off him as well. So is genetic resistance a thing, there was no isolation going on the malaw simply didn't catch the thing the first time and then caught a different version 

All pfizzee vaccines  family all 
Has to be two differ strains with two differ in response Has to Bea worry that mutatio s Will be worse 

I know three females from an extended family line cousins aunts all have same grandmother who were all hospitalised Akl live in same general area but not I teracting directly. Ages 25 35 55 if I had to guess (never guess a ladies age)
Brought Little atigger to Galway for all the stuff and things last weekend cos kiddies Christmas is getting cancelled and it's not right Donno why the didn't lock down from half term and let Christmas happen
Stupid vintners


RE: The Rant Thread - Tigger - 03-12-2021

(03-12-2021, 01:39 AM)Diamonds of Frost Wrote: https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/feature/everything-you-need-to-know-about-covid-19-vaccines
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58257863
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02261-8
Dosen't contradict what I stated Az is now to all intents and purposes defunctvas the shots taken in early are over six months ago and as all those articles agree efficiency has waybed.

Also and big also there is no peer review on any of this stuff its just pharma execs making sure that their product is sold after manufacture and the govts agreeing because of the panic that will happen whe those that got the shots realise they need bootees stat

The rules for the order that people were vaccinated was changes repeatedly as it's a balance of politics and public health statistics 

All HSE staff that got az are being boosted as it's not working

What are they being boosted with?
Not bloody az that's for sure 
In testing we take product and put it in storage in many many ways for very long time 
In nice and cold in freezing cold in stupidly cold in room temp in warm and in uncomfortably warm and leave it and test it every month for literly decades 
This cannot be accelerated there is no magic bullet buy in order to give it a years approval the absolute minimum time from production is 13 months and a day from production to 1.1 ish years testing to shipping

So any article stating efficiency in August for az has a maximum believable time of 1.1 times the time from the first time it was second shot into a test group of approx imatly 8 months and that was reported to teh waining immunity and that would be against alpha

Also what covid did you get If a person gets covind they are told by text this person aged that got test the other and it was positively returned for covid 19

Try to gibg and asking what you got

PCR is a genetic test they know what you got but they don't tell and if you ask they say they aren't sequence ing individual named samples but only by area to see what is there.
Look online at the American response They admit they know what you got but state they will not be telling you.

It's not a conspiracy I'm not a conspiracy theorist but this exercise in don't panic the proles is amazing to watch roll out.
I donld people in my office I was annoyed that my nct would be out and the queues would be huge when the nct shops rebopenwd 
They asked when it was due When I told them in march 20 it was due next Jan they laughed at me a said that if it was that long and still an issue they would not able to cope.

I terestinh thing is both of them quut last December to mind their teenage kids who were turning ferral and they literly couldn't cope

The power of words and attitude bis amazing you are what you verbalise I guess 
Ok big meeting more action plans the spice must flow


RE: The Rant Thread - Barna77 - 03-12-2021

The joys of pointless online meetings.
Lots of doodling to be done