(17-01-2023, 06:04 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: Did @Zeena Warrior Princess  confirm her shield prize win last night in round table thread ?

My head is pushing for @Friar Tuck ( not liking my nude singing )  @Zeena Warrior Princess  and @Countess Markievicz as did both win prizes

(15-01-2023, 01:31 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: If anybody want to confess their treacherous intent I shall absolve thee of thy sins.

(17-01-2023, 06:05 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:04 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: Did @Zeena Warrior Princess  confirm her shield prize win last night in round table thread ?

My head is pushing for @Friar Tuck ( not liking my nude singing )  @Zeena Warrior Princess  and @Countess Markievicz as did both win prizes

I didn't mention your nude singing?

(17-01-2023, 06:01 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 05:56 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: It is weird, but i'd make xena a 100% villager for tonight, immune from tonight's banishment. I'd also like to banish countess, we need to resolve whether to trust her prize, and only a host reveal will be able to confirm that for us.
It's the best of all worlds, if they were lying, we banish a traitor.
If they were telling the truth, well, we now 100% have a traitor in ed/friar/dora, where as if we were to go thru them and find out she was lying we'd be turn 4 before we banish a traitor.

Do you think the same prizes will won tonight? If they are you can narrow it down further by getting me, Dora or Edward to vote for Countess. Countess flips and you'll know if there was a traitor in their voters.

(17-01-2023, 04:00 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 03:29 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: the scale goes from 100% village to 100% wolf on average you have been wolf all game to me 

i dodnt vote you and i'm not suggesting voting you so please just play the game and dont take it personally, maybe help to solve more .

i assume that you think either friar or i am a wolf based on what the countess has said ?

is it me or is it friar?
if its me grand we flip me but you do not vote for me and friar dosent vote for me , 
when we get a reposrt on vote analysis back we can then add that data, you or friar voting for me wiould spoil that data,

so do you agree

If we need to have assumption in order to solve the game then my assumption would be that we will not be given the same vote analysis prize a 2nd night in a row.

(17-01-2023, 05:56 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 05:49 PM)Weyland the Blacksmith Wrote: I find it a weird wolf play to go after someone who has said on thread they won the shield with no counter claim.

It is weird, but i'd make xena a 100% villager for tonight, immune from tonight's banishment. I'd also like to banish countess, we need to resolve whether to trust her prize, and only a host reveal will be able to confirm that for us.
It's the best of all worlds, if they were lying, we banish a traitor.
If they were telling the truth, well, we now 100% have a traitor in ed/friar/dora, where as if we were to go thru them and find out she was lying we'd be turn 4 before we banish a traitor.

(17-01-2023, 06:13 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:01 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Do you think the same prizes will won tonight? If they are you can narrow it down further by getting me, Dora or Edward to vote for Countess. Countess flips and you'll know if there was a traitor in their voters.

I answered this already, i go find the answer I wrote already.

(17-01-2023, 04:00 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: If we need to have assumption in order to solve the game then my assumption would be that we will not be given the same vote analysis prize a 2nd night in a row.

(17-01-2023, 06:08 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: I never said I was cleared, just shared the info I had as soon as I could and suggested the prize would be useless to traitors.

My preference would be to banish Dora today, as I have the strongest scum lean in her, and that would at least prove my power if she’s traitor. If not, sure, banish me to prove I’m telling the truth.

(17-01-2023, 06:01 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 05:56 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: It is weird, but i'd make xena a 100% villager for tonight, immune from tonight's banishment. I'd also like to banish countess, we need to resolve whether to trust her prize, and only a host reveal will be able to confirm that for us.
It's the best of all worlds, if they were lying, we banish a traitor.
If they were telling the truth, well, we now 100% have a traitor in ed/friar/dora, where as if we were to go thru them and find out she was lying we'd be turn 4 before we banish a traitor.

Do you think the same prizes will won tonight? If they are you can narrow it down further by getting me, Dora or Edward to vote for Countess. Countess flips and you'll know if there was a traitor in their voters.

(17-01-2023, 06:15 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:13 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: I answered this already, i go find the answer I wrote already.

Why do you think the prizes will be different?

(17-01-2023, 06:16 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:08 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: I never said I was cleared, just shared the info I had as soon as I could and suggested the prize would be useless to traitors.

My preference would be to banish Dora today, as I have the strongest scum lean in her, and that would at least prove my power if she’s traitor. If not, sure, banish me to prove I’m telling the truth.

I really dislike the word scum in this game but that aside your "power" would not be proved given I'm not a traitor.

If you are telling the truth I'd probably lean towards Edward not being the traitor. I think a traitor would have, like myself, tried to cast doubt on your claim rather than accept it and say that they should be the one of the three lynched first. Despite what I think are some micharacterisations of their views yesterday I'd probably lean towards them being village. That would place the Friar in my sights.

So my two main candidates for a vote tonight are you and the Friar, depending on how I feel later on about the likelihood of your claim. I'm currently leaning towards voting for you.

(17-01-2023, 06:21 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:15 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Why do you think the prizes will be different?

Because vote analysis prizes like this are way too powerful. This is not a math game, its a parlor guessing game. If we had another one of those analysis prizes, we could solve the game with no guess work. This is not in the spirit of the game and as such, I don't think it exists, but if it did once, i think it can only be a once off.

(17-01-2023, 06:21 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:15 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Why do you think the prizes will be different?

Because vote analysis prizes like this are way too powerful. This is not a math game, its a parlor guessing game. If we had another one of those analysis prizes, we could solve the game with no guess work. This is not in the spirit of the game and as such, I don't think it exists, but if it did once, i think it can only be a once off.

(17-01-2023, 06:35 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:21 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Because vote analysis prizes like this are way too powerful. This is not a math game, its a parlor guessing game. If we had another one of those analysis prizes, we could solve the game with no guess work. This is not in the spirit of the game and as such, I don't think it exists, but if it did once, i think it can only be a once off.

There's only 2 days of prizes, so narrowing it down would depend on getting a wolf to vote for Countess and would depend on Countess actually having won the prize.

(17-01-2023, 06:16 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:08 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: I never said I was cleared, just shared the info I had as soon as I could and suggested the prize would be useless to traitors.

My preference would be to banish Dora today, as I have the strongest scum lean in her, and that would at least prove my power if she’s traitor. If not, sure, banish me to prove I’m telling the truth.

I really dislike the word scum in this game but that aside your "power" would not be proved given I'm not a traitor.

If you are telling the truth I'd probably lean towards Edward not being the traitor. I think a traitor would have, like myself, tried to cast doubt on your claim rather than accept it and say that they should be the one of the three lynched first. Despite what I think are some micharacterisations of their views yesterday I'd probably lean towards them being village. That would place the Friar in my sights.

So my two main candidates for a vote tonight are you and the Friar, depending on how I feel later on about the likelihood of your claim. I'm currently leaning towards voting for you.

(17-01-2023, 06:36 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: in a big game with lots of places to hide i can see countess making that move, but iun a game with at least 2 wolves to start and im assuming ( leave me alone gordon) a conversion ther would have to be balance

i believe countess

thant said i then believe dora

but


can we discuss the simple fact that we should not be lynching anyone that is not countess or me or dora or friar rhats the main thing im saying

yes or no will you vote inside that group

please copy and paste and put you answer here

Moe the Innkeeper
Amy the Singer
William the Grave Robber
Dora the Explorer
Edward the Barber            yes
Zeena Warrior Princess
Weyland the Blacksmith
Friar Tuck
Countess Markievicz
Gordon the Cook

(17-01-2023, 06:37 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:35 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: There's only 2 days of prizes, so narrowing it down would depend on getting a wolf to vote for Countess and would depend on Countess actually having won the prize.

But if you are to believe countess, it doesn't have to be used on todays banishment results. They can be kept and used any day we wish.

(17-01-2023, 06:38 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:16 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: I really dislike the word scum in this game but that aside your "power" would not be proved given I'm not a traitor.

If you are telling the truth I'd probably lean towards Edward not being the traitor. I think a traitor would have, like myself, tried to cast doubt on your claim rather than accept it and say that they should be the one of the three lynched first. Despite what I think are some micharacterisations of their views yesterday I'd probably lean towards them being village. That would place the Friar in my sights.

So my two main candidates for a vote tonight are you and the Friar, depending on how I feel later on about the likelihood of your claim. I'm currently leaning towards voting for you.

I was asked what I thought of the claim, you came straight out to refute it. How are you twisting that to claim I'm a traitor?

(17-01-2023, 06:41 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:36 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: in a big game with lots of places to hide i can see countess making that move, but iun a game with at least 2 wolves to start and im assuming ( leave me alone gordon) a conversion ther would have to be balance

i believe countess

thant said i then believe dora

but


can we discuss the simple fact that we should not be lynching anyone that is not countess or me or dora or friar rhats the main thing im saying

yes or no will you vote inside that group

please copy and paste and put you answer here

Moe the Innkeeper
Amy the Singer
William the Grave Robber
Dora the Explorer
Edward the Barber            yes
Zeena Warrior Princess
Weyland the Blacksmith
Friar Tuck
Countess Markievicz
Gordon the Cook

Why did you get your knickers in a twist when I said xena gets a 1 day pass from banishment if you believe what you said in bold above?

(17-01-2023, 06:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:37 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: But if you are to believe countess, it doesn't have to be used on todays banishment results. They can be kept and used any day we wish.

If you believe Countess it should be used when she flips and one of me, Dora or Edward asked to vote for her.
If she flips good you'll then know if one of the 4 in question - Countess, me, Dora, Edward - is a wolf. If she flips good but no traitor voted for her that narrows it down to the 2 that didn't vote for her.

(17-01-2023, 01:06 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: Farewell Lilly and welcome Amy!

Lilly (3): Friar[98], Dora[105], Edward[151]
Edward (3): Moe[107] , Weyland[114], William[138]
William (2): Zeena[104], Gordon[133]
Weyland (1): Lilly[96]
Dora (1): Countess[126]

Non-voters (1): Amy

I won a prize yesterday too, I was allowed to determine whether a traitor voted for the banished player. I used it last night and was informed that at least one of Lilly's voters is a traitor: Friar, Dora and Edward.

(17-01-2023, 03:29 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 03:04 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: flipping me narrows the search down , we should really flip one of the three of dora friar or me so in fairness i voulenteer, there will likley be a results based prze today and we can use that if only certain people vote for banishment today then the info we get back will be meaning full

if dora and friar both vote me then gbetting told a wolf in in the groupo voting me wont help as we already know that the group dora and friar contains a wolf


i voted lilly because i believed at that time neither were wolves and i tossed a coin


its either friar or dora and i'm not adamant im seeing how people are reacting to things i say
i have no info save what constance gave us which is ( to me ) that dora and or friar are wolves
ive nbeen reading dora wolf and friar village all game

In post #101 you replied to Gordon:

#101
Yesterday, 10:04 PM
"

Quote:(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:Yeah, read all 12 posts by weyland, 6 in main, and 6 in here. I've no idea why you have a hard on for them, but that's your prerogative. I'm not convinced enough to join you though.

That's ok I can follow you into William"

And in post #135 you said you were happy voting either:
"

Quote:Gordon the Cook Wrote:

I'm hoping that its more than just omgus that has me on william.
like, i believe thats the case, but omgus can be strong.

lilly has me as villager, so that would be my 100% not omgus, but i think william is the better play.

I'm happy with either, you can force my vote as I'll be self pressing because instead of defending or discussing the slots I suspect have omgus 
William hasn't voted yet I assume he's dropping on me so I probably need a vote on lilly from one of you or the countess if I'm to live . That's assuming Amy hasn't decided to enter the arena"

So did you find both Lilly and William Village or not? If yes, why were you happy to follow Gordon onto William but then didn't when it counted? Because he voted you?

(17-01-2023, 03:35 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 03:27 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: I'm also rather skeptical about Countess and their prize. I mean it would be a very solid play by a wolf because by the time you've been caught 3 villagers could be banished. Obviously I know me being suspicious about it is hardly going to convince too many people because I'm in the three they've said has at least one wolf.

Skepticism is healthy. If you're not a traitor, what do you make of Edward and Friar?

(17-01-2023, 04:26 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 04:20 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Post 55 on the roundtable thread yesterday from countess, it was called out by a couple of people because it was looking to get prize info out on thread

I can see why it was called out & looking back it seems like a traitor post.. But is it too traitory to be a traitor? If this is a play by countess it's a very bold one

It was because my prize is only useful for village - being able to identify whether there was a traitor voting the banished person is useless for traitors, so I was thinking the shield might be alignment indicative - what use would a traitor have for a shield? Probably just letting my PIS show.

(17-01-2023, 04:27 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 04:25 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: I shielded myself last night. Unless your conversion theory is correct or more players won a shield and used it also last night then I was targeted for murder.

I don't understand why I would have been targeted though as it would make more sense to pick a player from team 1. Your conversion theory doesn't completely make sense to me but at the same time I'm not dismissing it either

Can you explain more to me why there must be a wolf in the lily voters last night?

Because I won a prize too which let me ask the mod if there was a traitor among the people who votes the banished player and the result was yes, there was at least one traitor among them.

(17-01-2023, 04:50 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: Do we know team 2 was targeted? All we know is that "a player was attacked but managed to shield themselves from any potential murdering that may or may not have occurred.". I find that "or may not have occurred" a little strange.

Options, feel free to add:
1. Zeena is village, she used her shield, she was targeted - occam's razor, but weird scum play
2. Zeena is village, she passed her shield to someone else (if possible), the other person was targeted, who knows who
3. Zeena is village, and someone else on the winning team won a shield also, that person was targeted
4. Zeena was village, used her shield last night, but somehow traitors recruited her
5. Zeena is a traitor, did not receive a shield, someone else on team 2 won a shield and was targeted
6. Zeena is a traitor, but received a shield, and used it for some other nefarious reason (maybe to recruit, hence the murder attempt that may or may not have ocurred)
7...

(17-01-2023, 06:01 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 05:14 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Could you have held onto this prized and used it any night?

Yes, I believe so, but with the tied vote and just three players voting Lilly, I thought it was the best time to use it.

(17-01-2023, 06:08 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: I never said I was cleared, just shared the info I had as soon as I could and suggested the prize would be useless to traitors.

My preference would be to banish Dora today, as I have the strongest scum lean in her, and that would at least prove my power if she’s traitor. If not, sure, banish me to prove I’m telling the truth.

1. I was allowed to determine whether a traitor voted for the banished player. I used it last night and was informed that at least one of Lilly's voters is a traitor: Friar, Dora and Edward.
   
2. It was because my prize is only useful for village - being able to identify whether there was a traitor voting the banished person is useless for traitors, so I was thinking the shield might be alignment indicative - what use would a traitor have for a shield? Probably just letting my PIS show.
   
3. Because I won a prize too which let me ask the mod if there was a traitor among the people who votes the banished player and the result was yes, there was at least one traitor among them.
   
4. Yes, I believe so, but with the tied vote and just three players voting Lilly, I thought it was the best time to use it.
   

(17-01-2023, 06:37 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:35 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: There's only 2 days of prizes, so narrowing it down would depend on getting a wolf to vote for Countess and would depend on Countess actually having won the prize.

But if you are to believe countess, it doesn't have to be used on todays banishment results. They can be kept and used any day we wish.

(17-01-2023, 06:48 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:43 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: If you believe Countess it should be used when she flips and one of me, Dora or Edward asked to vote for her.
If she flips good you'll then know if one of the 4 in question - Countess, me, Dora, Edward - is a wolf. If she flips good but no traitor voted for her that narrows it down to the 2 that didn't vote for her.

And let us assume that we get the power again, which is debatable, why would you believe whoever tells us that there is or isn't a traitor there?

(17-01-2023, 06:53 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: If we believe Countess and she's Faithful, it's a waste of a banishment to target her, as we're still left with 2 Traitors and 3 possible culprits in which there might only be 1. Though we would know she hadn't lied.

If we don't believe Countess, and she's a Traitor, we banish her, and she's lied to protect her fellow Traitor, then we have 3 in the clear.

But there's also a possibility that she is a Traitor and is telling the truth!

(17-01-2023, 06:48 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:

(17-01-2023, 06:41 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Why did you get your knickers in a twist when I said xena gets a 1 day pass from banishment if you believe what you said in bold above?

Because it's possible you are using concencus techniques , we agree she not a wolf one day and suddenly she's cleared 
I saying that it's quite likely she's a wolf but it's 100per cent likely that one if the 4 mentioned are a wolf you either agree or you don't

(17-01-2023, 06:53 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: If we believe Countess and she's Faithful, it's a waste of a banishment to target her, as we're still left with 2 Traitors and 3 possible culprits in which there might only be 1. Though we would know she hadn't lied.

If we don't believe Countess, and she's a Traitor, we banish her, and she's lied to protect her fellow Traitor, then we have 3 in the clear.

But there's also a possibility that she is a Traitor and is telling the truth!

(18-01-2023, 11:10 AM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: Day 1
Lilly (3): Friar[98], Dora[105], Edward[151]
Edward (3): Moe[107] , Weyland[114], William[138]
William (2): Zeena[104], Gordon[133]
Weyland (1): Lilly[96]
Dora (1): Countess[126]

Non-voters (1): Amy

Day 2
Edward (4): William[311], Weyland[322], Moe[323], Dora[360]
Dora (4): Friar[338], Gordon[341], Countess[344], Zeena[358]
Friar (1): Edward[333]
William (1): Amy[343]

@Friar Tuck anything to share?