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RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 12-10-2025
I get what Wendy is at. I just think it's just very awkwardly done
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Pat the Baker - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 08:54 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: I get what Wendy is at. I just think it's just very awkwardly doneDon't like how they've just said they dislike me for no reason and ive asked twice for reasoning
I'm all for calling people out and getting discussion going, but if you say you dont like someone, be prepared to say why and not ignore the person asking you
See Wendy, its that easy to give a reason, cause I have one
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Prada the Seamstress - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 08:54 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: I get what Wendy is at. I just think it's just very awkwardly doneCould you try and explain it to me, as I've read it back a few times and can't grasp it
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 08:58 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote:(12-10-2025, 08:54 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: I get what Wendy is at. I just think it's just very awkwardly doneCould you try and explain it to me, as I've read it back a few times and can't grasp it
It's just reaction posting, but as I said it's awkwardly done.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 08:57 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:(12-10-2025, 08:54 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: I get what Wendy is at. I just think it's just very awkwardly doneDon't like how they've just said they dislike me for no reason and ive asked twice for reasoning
I'm all for calling people out and getting discussion going, but if you say you dont like someone, be prepared to say why and not ignore the person asking you
See Wendy, its that easy to give a reason, cause I have one
Yeah see, it's working on you 😂 you are reacting to it
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 08:58 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote:(12-10-2025, 08:54 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: I get what Wendy is at. I just think it's just very awkwardly doneCould you try and explain it to me, as I've read it back a few times and can't grasp it
I'll get my friendly AI to explain it for you.
Please note the below is ai generated as is not my words.
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In the game Werewolf (also known as Mafia), the random voting stage usually refers to the early-game phase, typically Day 1, where players vote without having solid evidence or strong reads on who the werewolves (or mafia) are. Here's a breakdown of what this stage is and why it's important:
🎲 What is the Random Voting Stage?
The random voting stage (RVS) is a phase at the beginning of the game where:
Players make light, often humorous or arbitrary votes, like:
“I’m voting Alice because she’s always suspicious on Mondays.”
“Bob didn’t say ‘hi’ so he must be a wolf.”
Votes are not serious at first, but they help to kick off discussion.
It's often used in forum-based or text-based versions of Werewolf/Mafia, but can apply to live versions too.
🔍 Why Is It Important?
Even though the votes are random or baseless at first, the random voting stage serves several crucial purposes:
1. Breaks the Silence
New games often start quietly, with no information.
RVS gets people talking and interacting, which is vital for a social deduction game.
2. Establishes a Baseline
Seeing how players respond to votes and pressure helps town players develop reads.
Example: A werewolf might react nervously or defensively to a random vote.
3. Creates Early Interaction Data
Even "random" votes are decisions that can be analyzed later.
Once alignments start being revealed, players can look back at early votes for patterns or connections.
4. Helps Identify Active vs. Passive Players
Passive or lurking players might avoid engaging during RVS, which can be suspicious.
It can draw attention to those trying to hide in the background.
5. May Accidentally Catch a Wolf
Sometimes, a random vote hits a werewolf, and their reaction may expose them.
Wolves tend to feel more pressure, even in early stages, because they know their alignment.
🧠 Pro Tip
While it’s called random, good players use the RVS strategically:
Targeting quiet players to force participation.
Watching reactions carefully.
Changing tone or pressure to see who cracks.
Summary
Aspect Purpose
Icebreaker Starts conversation and breaks silence
Reaction Testing Analyzes how players respond to light pressure
Read Development Creates early content to develop suspicions or town reads
Lurker Detection Identifies who’s trying to hide or avoid attention
Info Generation Lays the groundwork for future analysis when alignments are revealed
In short, the random voting stage is more than just fun or fluff — it’s a tool for town to gather info and apply early pressure, which is key to finding the wolves.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Pat the Baker - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:01 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:(12-10-2025, 08:57 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Don't like how they've just said they dislike me for no reason and ive asked twice for reasoning
I'm all for calling people out and getting discussion going, but if you say you dont like someone, be prepared to say why and not ignore the person asking you
See Wendy, its that easy to give a reason, cause I have one
Yeah see, it's working on you 😂 you are reacting to it
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RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 12-10-2025
What is the absolute point in posting AI.. it has no place in the game.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
As we don't have live notified voting here, we are forced to use other tactics, like adding people to a 'nonsense' ffa
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:09 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: What is the absolute point in posting AI.. it has no place in the game.
I alerted / disclaimered the ai content. wft is your problem to the content?
It has actually gameplay strategy in it.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
i've a feeling that the is faux outrage.
#ffa0
betty
prada
magda
thats my fda full for day zero.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Prada the Seamstress - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 08:59 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:Thanks for taking the time to clarify rather than copy and pasting some AI.(12-10-2025, 08:58 PM)Prada the Seamstress Wrote: Could you try and explain it to me, as I've read it back a few times and can't grasp it
It's just reaction posting, but as I said it's awkwardly done.
No problem with the rt from them, I myself like a good rt, just thought there was more substance to that post in particular.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Ina May the Midwife - 12-10-2025
*Ironically, ChatGPT finds Wendy suspicious for posting the AI in the first place😂
*I won't be using AI to form my suspicions btw I just found it funny and wanted to share it.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:25 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: *Ironically, ChatGPT finds Wendy suspicious for posting the AI in the first place😂If you want to explain RVS then do so.
*I won't be using AI to form my suspicions btw I just found it funny and wanted to share it.
As i wanted to explain RVS but didn't feel like typing out an essay, i got AI to do the tedious work for me.
I disclaimered it and all, didn't try to pretend it was my own work.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:15 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: i've a feeling that the is faux outrage.
#ffa0
betty
prada
magda
thats my fda full for day zero.
You can feel how you wish, that's your prerogative, but if you don't see how answering a question put to you, by using AI, in a game where we are all supposed to be using our own heads and opinions etc could rile someone up the wrong way, then I can't help you
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:32 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:(12-10-2025, 09:15 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: i've a feeling that the is faux outrage.
#ffa0
betty
prada
magda
thats my fda full for day zero.
You can feel how you wish, that's your prerogative, but if you don't see how answering a question put to you, by using AI, in a game where we are all supposed to be using our own heads and opinions etc could rile someone up the wrong way, then I can't help you
The question as you put it was not put at me!
It was put at you, and i added some context.
If prada had of asked me, then sure, i can see why it would be bad, but they did not ask me anything.
You are fake as fake can be. down with you. WOLF!!
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Ina May the Midwife - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:31 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:(12-10-2025, 09:25 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: *Ironically, ChatGPT finds Wendy suspicious for posting the AI in the first place😂If you want to explain RVS then do so.
*I won't be using AI to form my suspicions btw I just found it funny and wanted to share it.
As i wanted to explain RVS but didn't feel like typing out an essay, i got AI to do the tedious work for me.
I disclaimered it and all, didn't try to pretend it was my own work.
Hey, it's ChatGPT's assessment not mine. I just found it funny is all 😂
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:43 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:(12-10-2025, 09:31 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: If you want to explain RVS then do so.
As i wanted to explain RVS but didn't feel like typing out an essay, i got AI to do the tedious work for me.
I disclaimered it and all, didn't try to pretend it was my own work.
Hey, it's ChatGPT's assessment not mine. I just found it funny is all 😂
So, now OOG AI is shading me. How is anybody supposed to defend themselves from that. 🤷♂️
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:37 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:(12-10-2025, 09:32 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: You can feel how you wish, that's your prerogative, but if you don't see how answering a question put to you, by using AI, in a game where we are all supposed to be using our own heads and opinions etc could rile someone up the wrong way, then I can't help you
The question as you put it was not put at me!
It was put at you, and i added some context.
If prada had of asked me, then sure, i can see why it would be bad, but they did not ask me anything.
You are fake as fake can be. down with you. WOLF!!
I am absolutely wound up about it, I definitely think it has no place in the game. And I do hold my hands up there and incorrectly stated that it was put to you, for that part I apologise, but the point is still valid.
You can think and shout whatever you want but you are barking up the wrong tree.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Vernon the Ranger - 12-10-2025
What is the meaning of the word 'pocketing'?
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Pat the Baker - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 09:55 PM)Vernon the Ranger Wrote: What is the meaning of the word 'pocketing'?Its something that a wolf would be accused of doing.. basically being a bit too nice to another player, in the hope that the player you are being nice to will think you are not a wolf
Example: wow Vernon, good job coming out and asking what pocketing means. Not many players would have the guts to do that
An extreme example, but hope that helps! Or ask Wendy, they'll give you the AI answer 🤣
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Vernon the Ranger - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 10:02 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:(12-10-2025, 09:55 PM)Vernon the Ranger Wrote: What is the meaning of the word 'pocketing'?Its something that a wolf would be accused of doing.. basically being a bit too nice to another player, in the hope that the player you are being nice to will think you are not a wolf
Example: wow Vernon, good job coming out and asking what pocketing means. Not many players would have the guts to do that
An extreme example, but hope that helps! Or ask Wendy, they'll give you the AI answer 🤣
You have my gratitude. Such knowledge is not lightly shared.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 10:02 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:(12-10-2025, 09:55 PM)Vernon the Ranger Wrote: What is the meaning of the word 'pocketing'?Its something that a wolf would be accused of doing.. basically being a bit too nice to another player, in the hope that the player you are being nice to will think you are not a wolf
Example: wow Vernon, good job coming out and asking what pocketing means. Not many players would have the guts to do that
An extreme example, but hope that helps! Or ask Wendy, they'll give you the AI answer 🤣
Only happy to oblige.
The following is AI generated and should not be attribute to me.
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In Werewolf (or Mafia), the term "pocketing" refers to a strategy where a werewolf (or other evil role) tries to make a townsperson trust them, usually by:
Acting friendly,
Agreeing with their opinions,
Defending them publicly,
Giving them town reads (saying "I think you're town"),
Generally making them feel like they’re on the same team.
Once the townsperson is "pocketed," the werewolf can manipulate them, influence their votes, or avoid suspicion from them entirely.
🧠 What "Pocketing" Means in Detail
To "pocket" someone is essentially to win their trust dishonestly so they:
Don’t suspect you,
Back you up in discussions or votes,
Defend you from others’ suspicion,
Help you reach your goals as a wolf (e.g. miseliminating other townies).
🧪 Example
Imagine a werewolf hard-defends a townsperson early in the game.
That townsperson starts thinking: “Wow, this person is really towny and has my back.”
Now the werewolf is in their "pocket" — the townie is unlikely to suspect or vote them later.
This makes the wolf's job easier — fewer people suspect them, and they have a “shield” in the townsperson they’ve pocketed.
🔄 Can Town Pocket Too?
Sometimes, yes. A town player might accidentally "pocket" someone (gain their trust) just by being convincingly towny — but the term is usually used when a wolf does it deliberately.
🚨 How to Avoid Being Pocketed
Stay skeptical, even of players who townread or defend you.
Judge actions, not flattery. Just because someone is nice to you doesn’t mean they’re town.
Reevaluate players as the game progresses — don’t get locked in too early.
Summary
Term Meaning
Pocketing A wolf gains a town player’s trust to manipulate them or avoid suspicion
Who does it Usually wolves, but sometimes town can do it unintentionally
Goal To make the townie defend the wolf or ignore their suspicious behavior
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Pat the Baker - 12-10-2025
Ah Wendy, you can see my posts, great. I thought you accidentally put me on ignore after you said you disliked me
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - William the Grave Robber - 12-10-2025
right folks, i'm to bed. will read back in the morning
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 10:32 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Ah Wendy, you can see my posts, great. I thought you accidentally put me on ignore after you said you disliked me
Hey Pat. I can see your posts.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 08:21 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: from reading OP, and some guessing. there will clearly be more than 3 wolves.
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(12-10-2025, 10:42 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: right folks, i'm to bed. will read back in the morning
2 hours or so since your last post and here you are signing off as if you have been posting here all night 🤔
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Benjamin the Alchemist - 12-10-2025
Should we really be using ChatGPT or whatever the AI is called? How can we read a player if they’re copying and pasting a considerable chunk of their post? I’m not a fan and now I’m sucked into a conversation that I never thought I’d be having playing werewolf.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Pat the Baker - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 10:48 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:Their 4 posts so far are a hello post, a list of players on the lynch form, a bit of guessing on roles and then that goodnight post. Not much to go on there so far(12-10-2025, 08:21 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: from reading OP, and some guessing. there will clearly be more than 3 wolves.
(12-10-2025, 10:42 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: right folks, i'm to bed. will read back in the morning
2 hours or so since your last post and here you are signing off as if you have been posting here all night 🤔
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 12-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 10:59 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Should we really be using ChatGPT or whatever the AI is called? How can we read a player if they’re copying and pasting a considerable chunk of their post? I’m not a fan and now I’m sucked into a conversation that I never thought I’d be having playing werewolf.
If this is about me, then everything above the disclaimer is me.
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RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Rhoda the Spinster - 13-10-2025
Brethren, do not fight. We must stay united as we defeat evil and save Middle Earth.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Benjamin the Alchemist - 13-10-2025
(12-10-2025, 11:41 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:(12-10-2025, 10:59 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: Should we really be using ChatGPT or whatever the AI is called? How can we read a player if they’re copying and pasting a considerable chunk of their post? I’m not a fan and now I’m sucked into a conversation that I never thought I’d be having playing werewolf.
If this is about me, then everything above the disclaimer is me.
I know. I’d personally like to see everybody use their own words when explaining stuff to other players. It’s an important part of the game seeing if someone slips up in how they answer or phrase their post.
Copying and pasting parts of the OP being the exception.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Wendy the Wench - 13-10-2025
(13-10-2025, 12:09 AM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:(12-10-2025, 11:41 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote: If this is about me, then everything above the disclaimer is me.
I know. I’d personally like to see everybody use their own words when explaining stuff to other players. It’s an important part of the game seeing if someone slips up in how they answer or phrase their post.
Copying and pasting parts of the OP being the exception.
Right so Ben,
Please explain what 'random voting stage' is about, and why its useful, and then when you have finished that please explain what is 'pocketing'.
Cheers.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Ina May the Midwife - 13-10-2025
(13-10-2025, 12:08 AM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Brethren, do not fight. We must stay united as we defeat evil and save Middle Earth.
Fair enough Rhoda, how do you propose we find the wolves then.
Cross our fingers and hope for the best? Perhaps click our heels three times while saying "there's no place like home."
Whoops, that last one was the wrong movie. Regardless the point stands.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Magda the Maid - 13-10-2025
Morning all,
Here's the 13 posters who posted on day Zero so far
Total Posts: 114
User # Posts
Wendy the Wench 20
Magda the Maid 19
Pat the Baker 18
Ina May the Midwife 16
Prada the Seamstress 9
Betty the Beggar 8
Vernon the Ranger 5
Laura the Lace Mistress 5
William the Grave Robber 4
Benjamin the Alchemist 3
Rhoda the Spinster 3
Edward the Barber 1
Frank the Tank 1
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Pat the Baker - 13-10-2025
(13-10-2025, 12:08 AM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Brethren, do not fight. We must stay united as we defeat evil and save Middle Earth.Fluffy mcflufferson is fluffy
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Betty the Beggar - 13-10-2025
(13-10-2025, 07:46 AM)Magda the Maid Wrote: Morning all,
Here's the 13 posters who posted on day Zero so far
Total Posts: 114
User # Posts
Wendy the Wench 20
Magda the Maid 19
Pat the Baker 18
Ina May the Midwife 16
Prada the Seamstress 9
Betty the Beggar 8
Vernon the Ranger 5
Laura the Lace Mistress 5
William the Grave Robber 4
Benjamin the Alchemist 3
Rhoda the Spinster 3
Edward the Barber 1
Frank the Tank 1
So it seems less than half of those who are alleged to be here have participated. Thank you for the stats, I've not the time to pull this detail together. I dont yet have a firm direction to point a finger but will review more over the morning and hopefully more will join in the meantime. First, I must attend to my obligations.
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Ina May the Midwife - 13-10-2025
(13-10-2025, 08:09 AM)Betty the Beggar Wrote:(13-10-2025, 07:46 AM)Magda the Maid Wrote: Morning all,
Here's the 13 posters who posted on day Zero so far
Total Posts: 114
User # Posts
Wendy the Wench 20
Magda the Maid 19
Pat the Baker 18
Ina May the Midwife 16
Prada the Seamstress 9
Betty the Beggar 8
Vernon the Ranger 5
Laura the Lace Mistress 5
William the Grave Robber 4
Benjamin the Alchemist 3
Rhoda the Spinster 3
Edward the Barber 1
Frank the Tank 1
So it seems less than half of those who are alleged to be here have participated. Thank you for the stats, I've not the time to pull this detail together. I dont yet have a firm direction to point a finger but will review more over the morning and hopefully more will join in the meantime. First, I must attend to my obligations.
What exactly are a Beggars obligations anyways Betty?
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - E.N. - 13-10-2025
MOD NOTE: let's leave the AI posting now please
And, obviously, no using AI for actual gameplay. We can all just pack up and go home if people start doing that
RE: The Fellowship of the Ring Werewolf - Benjamin the Alchemist - 13-10-2025
Never heard the phrase random voting stage till the AI said it. First lynch can be a stab in the dark for sure but there will be players who put the work in and believe (rightly or wrongly) in their first vote. The wolf votes are never random as they will discuss them as a pack.
Pocketing in its correct form would be a wolf cosying up to a villager by agreeing with the villager in the hope that said villager sees them in a good light because they think the same way. Can only confirm someone was pocketing after they’re dead and their alignment revealed.
That’s my take on those phrases.