(11-08-2025, 11:38 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: So, maybe we can open up a discussion a bit. There may not be a gun floating around today anyways so maybe talking about shooting isn't the way to go. Right, so at this point in time who would you vote for if a lynch was happening ASAP. Oprah for me at this point. Not going to explain again as it's only a few posts back. Great if you have someone, but understanding if you don't at the mo.

(12-08-2025, 06:17 PM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 04:06 PM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Had a look there, think I know what you are seeing yeah.. definitely want to hear from @Zeena Warrior Princess

I've had a look a zeena and I don't see what ye are seeing

(12-08-2025, 05:57 PM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: Vincent. Very similar to Xeena. Not posting much. Not trying to figure things out. The is village good question seemed in stark contrast to assessing the hit rate of dead rolled posters vs NRVs. Scrupulously polite, as if not trying to make waves.

(11-08-2025, 09:20 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.

(12-08-2025, 06:20 PM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 06:17 PM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: I've had a look a zeena and I don't see what ye are seeing

Two posts with God Almighty in them.....

(12-08-2025, 10:45 AM)Amy the Singer Wrote:

(11-08-2025, 10:04 PM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah that was me that put forward Jacob as a shot target this morning

(12-08-2025, 06:46 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Morning folks,  early start for me as you can see! In the office today so might not get on quite as much but will do my best

Thats about as rough a monday as i can remember, im not even sure where to start today. 6v4v1 now with a munch to come shortly. Goes without saying we need to hit a wolf today and hope for some crossfire between scar and the wolves

(12-08-2025, 07:24 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Were you convinced Oprah was a wolf though? You said you were between Oprah and countess yesterday

(12-08-2025, 07:25 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Why did you think someone having a vote blocked could clear them as a wolf?

(12-08-2025, 07:32 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Can you explain how you went from Oprah is a cop out vote, to voting Oprah within 30 mins?

(12-08-2025, 07:56 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: I could be wrong but I think those vote blocking powers need to be activated early,  so the person doing it may have had to choose a name by a certain time yesterday

(12-08-2025, 08:34 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: One thing I would say is that I don't think Mcdonald is scar..  they moved their vote late off a counter wagon.  If scar they don't know who Oprah is and is risking being killed by last vote on gaston

That leaves dora cleared on the amy counter wagon, alongside Raymond, who is not

(12-08-2025, 08:39 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker west was your reason for voting amy?

(12-08-2025, 08:40 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: What was your reason i meant

(12-08-2025, 08:48 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah thats why I said I dont think Mcdonald is scar.  They could be a wolf or village but I don't think scar

The main wagon ended up large but at one stage it was relatively close.. if dora was still alive id probably be between the two of ye but I think you're as good a starting point as any 😂

(12-08-2025, 08:58 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: I dont really understand your reasoning for voting amy, it just reads as very confusing to me

Ill check back if I have time but it just seems like you got confused and used it as a reason to vote amy

Id agree amy wasn't very helpful yesterday but their posts last night were a little better so im happy to hear them out today rather than rush to vote their

(12-08-2025, 09:10 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: If I had to guess id say scar is probably in the Oprah wagon somewhere

(12-08-2025, 09:24 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah id agree she was a good candidate based on her posts but I don't think id have gone so far to say i was convinced,  especially on d1 nothing is set in stone

(12-08-2025, 09:32 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: I dont agree that lily sprung into action last night.. I had a fair bit of back and forth with them during the day

They were on my ffa but I did like some of the fight they put up when I questioned them yesterday, so im unsure there tbh

(12-08-2025, 09:34 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah i sure did, hence why I said they were a good candidate for the lynch.. was i convinced? No

I said it at some stage yesterday,  if Oprah survived yesterday and had they same type of gameplay today, id just be voting there today anyway

All of Boris's posts from the time of Aladdin being announced as seer. Think he may have peeked either Ray or Lilly.

(12-08-2025, 06:10 PM)Amy the Singer Wrote: @Lilly the Millennial I didn't insinuate anything about you being a wolf. In fact if you had read up to date you'd see that I actually said that Boris soft cleared you.

(12-08-2025, 08:58 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: I dont really understand your reasoning for voting amy, it just reads as very confusing to me

Ill check back if I have time but it just seems like you got confused and used it as a reason to vote amy

Id agree amy wasn't very helpful yesterday but their posts last night were a little better so im happy to hear them out today rather than rush to vote their

(12-08-2025, 06:58 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: Well it's all happening now, I was in work so how do you expect me to log on then.

Im not a wolf, I dont remember who asked but people were saying that myself or Vincent might be as both newbies.

Maybe you all picked it up really easy but its very hard to figure out who is meant to be bad or good and then it feels like every 5 secs another person is killed and not by the nightly lynch.

I dont get how I'm meant to work out who is who.

If can't work it out this evening after reading the posts, I  was just going to go with the majority and who you all wanted us to vote for because you all understand the game.

(12-08-2025, 05:59 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: I'm glad to see I was missed. With my job, I rarely get time to be looking at this thread during the day - and maybe that's not fair on the game, but I try to contribute when I can outside work hours. Unfortunately, today I was offsite and not desk based, so no opportunity to check in at all, even on lunch. 

I think I have caught up on the thread as best I can. 
Re: mod kill, glad it worked in favour of the village, because before this I was screaming at Dexter not to shoot Vincent, it was too risky. 

There are posts I noted down as I read through, but I'm not going to quote them as I go.

Firstly, Boris could surely have gotten a peek if it's a night time action. However, in post 626, @Amy the Singer says "Boris possibly peeked Ray or Lilly" and insinuates that I am a wolf as a result. However, Boris' exact words on me were "So I'm unsure there tbh." 
Raymond is a possibility for a peek based on his posting. 

However, going back to post 613, I did find Amy saying "if your evidence of her having a peek is her voting me then no she didn't have one". This I felt was a bit suss as it would surely be something Hans would say. A good peek cannot be trusted! 

Post 657 @Countess Markievicz has me crossed off the list as someone who is dead, mind telling me why? 

@Zeena Warrior Princess#673 you say I am not a wolf but I know you have to ask. Who was asking? This feels a bit like posting for posting sake. 

@Vincent the Artist help a girl out please. I liked your post 708 however it would be helpful if you had names alongside your hard work. I know this is because I'm playing catch-up but who do you think is likely wolf? 

Finally all the latest notes I have are on 
@Jacob the Tailor

On relation to Moe's votes, I thought you were very eager to clear people based on Moe's posts. Wolves have been known to bus other wolves very easily so I wouldn't be as eager as you. Saying that would Moe put a wolf on their FFA day one? This would surely be highly unlikely? From the remaining mentions, Friar and Dora were village and Mc Scar, leaving a possible wolf in Lilly, Vincent, Zeena, Dexter and Amy. 
Missing from Moe's list is Raymond I think. 
I would like to take time this eve to cross check this with the votes from last night. 

Finally @Jacob the Tailor
703 - 704, you call me out , saying it's all fluff and telling people not very village. But you don't provide any evidence of this. 
Post 715, I felt when you were questioned on the Amy peek thing, you were very quick to drop that and deflected quickly to "look at Lilly!". Again, in post 734, it was deflection instead of answering the questions posed. 

Based on all the above, I don't know where I am voting just yet. I read back on Zeena's posts and I don't see any crumbs, but I am useless at spotting them (however Dexter was very obvious). I am quite interested to see what they have to say when they do post. 

Right now, my village lean is Dexter. 

Unsure
Constance
Vincent

Possible wolves in no particular order:
Raymond
Amy
Jacob
Zeena

I'm going now to cook some dinner and I'll be back online in around an hour or so.

(12-08-2025, 12:43 PM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: If we still have a gun I'd risk it and shoot Vincent.. their post progression is astounding for a newbie, so either they have picked everything up already. Or they are getting help structuring posts.

(12-08-2025, 02:11 PM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: Alright fair it's consensus so Ill drop the Amy affront. I want Lily to pop into the thread and give us her thoughts

(11-08-2025, 09:20 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.

(12-08-2025, 07:08 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: 3 wolves here.
jacob, zeena, lilly, vincent
raymond, amy, countess

Dexter the Dragoon 164
Boris the Fool 101
Jacob the Tailor 81
Amy the Singer 76
Raymond the Shoemaker 62
Countess Markievicz 55
Lilly the Millennial 42
McDonald the Farmer 40
Gordon the Cook 31
Oprah the Gossip 28
Dora the Explorer 20
Necro 20
Vincent the Artist 19
Moe the Innkeeper 16
Zeena Warrior Princess 13
Friar Tuck 7

(12-08-2025, 07:05 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: There's a couple of things that seem odd to me so I'll put them out there for consideration or response.

Dexter: I found it peculiar that when the game was 5 v 4 and Scar was killed that Dexter was advocating shooting me. Shooting a villager at that point would have brought the numbers to 4 v 4 which if my understanding of the win criteria is correct would have given victory immediately to the wolves.
The rationale given was post progression which seems flimsy enough to encourage that risk.

(12-08-2025, 12:43 PM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: If we still have a gun I'd risk it and shoot Vincent.. their post progression is astounding for a newbie, so either they have picked everything up already. Or they are getting help structuring posts.

Jacob: Having suggested that Dora peeked Amy despite it being against usual game mechanics I'm suprised that shortly after I asked for an explanation for that thinking and Jacob then dropped considering Amy.

(12-08-2025, 02:11 PM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: Alright fair it's consensus so Ill drop the Amy affront. I want Lily to pop into the thread and give us her thoughts

Countess: Now that I know more about the game, I can't figure out why there was any ambiguity over Friar Tuck's village status.

(11-08-2025, 09:20 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.

(12-08-2025, 07:12 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 07:08 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: 3 wolves here.
jacob, zeena, lilly, vincent
raymond, amy, countess

Dexter the Dragoon 164
Boris the Fool 101
Jacob the Tailor 81
Amy the Singer 76
Raymond the Shoemaker 62
Countess Markievicz 55
Lilly the Millennial 42
McDonald the Farmer 40
Gordon the Cook 31
Oprah the Gossip 28
Dora the Explorer 20
Necro 20
Vincent the Artist 19
Moe the Innkeeper 16
Zeena Warrior Princess 13
Friar Tuck 7

From this post are we to take it that you think that you're more likely to be a wolf than Dexter because of the 8 remaining players only 7 are listed...

(12-08-2025, 07:04 PM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Personally I would discount Zeena from being a wolf myself as they seem genuinely confused by what's going on. To just use that and offer no help in a backroom to them wouldn't be in the spirit of the game for me anyways. Not sure what others think but FG has a genuine welcoming community so can't see it happening.

(12-08-2025, 07:03 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 05:59 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: I'm glad to see I was missed. With my job, I rarely get time to be looking at this thread during the day - and maybe that's not fair on the game, but I try to contribute when I can outside work hours. Unfortunately, today I was offsite and not desk based, so no opportunity to check in at all, even on lunch. 

I think I have caught up on the thread as best I can. 
Re: mod kill, glad it worked in favour of the village, because before this I was screaming at Dexter not to shoot Vincent, it was too risky. 

There are posts I noted down as I read through, but I'm not going to quote them as I go.

Firstly, Boris could surely have gotten a peek if it's a night time action. However, in post 626, @Amy the Singer says "Boris possibly peeked Ray or Lilly" and insinuates that I am a wolf as a result. However, Boris' exact words on me were "So I'm unsure there tbh." 
Raymond is a possibility for a peek based on his posting. 

However, going back to post 613, I did find Amy saying "if your evidence of her having a peek is her voting me then no she didn't have one". This I felt was a bit suss as it would surely be something Hans would say. A good peek cannot be trusted! 

Post 657 @Countess Markievicz has me crossed off the list as someone who is dead, mind telling me why? 

@Zeena Warrior Princess#673 you say I am not a wolf but I know you have to ask. Who was asking? This feels a bit like posting for posting sake. 

@Vincent the Artist help a girl out please. I liked your post 708 however it would be helpful if you had names alongside your hard work. I know this is because I'm playing catch-up but who do you think is likely wolf? 

Finally all the latest notes I have are on 
@Jacob the Tailor

On relation to Moe's votes, I thought you were very eager to clear people based on Moe's posts. Wolves have been known to bus other wolves very easily so I wouldn't be as eager as you. Saying that would Moe put a wolf on their FFA day one? This would surely be highly unlikely? From the remaining mentions, Friar and Dora were village and Mc Scar, leaving a possible wolf in Lilly, Vincent, Zeena, Dexter and Amy. 
Missing from Moe's list is Raymond I think. 
I would like to take time this eve to cross check this with the votes from last night. 

Finally @Jacob the Tailor
703 - 704, you call me out , saying it's all fluff and telling people not very village. But you don't provide any evidence of this. 
Post 715, I felt when you were questioned on the Amy peek thing, you were very quick to drop that and deflected quickly to "look at Lilly!". Again, in post 734, it was deflection instead of answering the questions posed. 

Based on all the above, I don't know where I am voting just yet. I read back on Zeena's posts and I don't see any crumbs, but I am useless at spotting them (however Dexter was very obvious). I am quite interested to see what they have to say when they do post. 

Right now, my village lean is Dexter. 

Unsure
Constance
Vincent

Possible wolves in no particular order:
Raymond
Amy
Jacob
Zeena

I'm going now to cook some dinner and I'll be back online in around an hour or so.

was meant to be mcdonald. dont read too much into it

(12-08-2025, 07:15 PM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Tis a good thing I don't have a gun then isn't it 😜

(12-08-2025, 03:03 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: i'd say moe has 1 actual wolf in his wolfy leans, and the 2 others in his village leans.

(12-08-2025, 07:15 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: @Vincent the Artist re your post above: Countess: Now that I know more about the game, I can't figure out why there was any ambiguity over Friar Tuck's village status.

do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.


seeing as everyone has called this out, do you think i was intentionally trying to be underhanded here?

from my POV, it was because friar was not named as NRV or as one of the rolled villagers per OP. cant remember for sure, but i presume i forgot about the other rolled not named.

(12-08-2025, 07:16 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: Appreciate the response @Countess Markievicz. I can follow the logic you've set out

(12-08-2025, 07:22 PM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 07:15 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: @Vincent the Artist re your post above: Countess: Now that I know more about the game, I can't figure out why there was any ambiguity over Friar Tuck's village status.

do we think friar was good? doesn't really make much difference anyway.


seeing as everyone has called this out, do you think i was intentionally trying to be underhanded here?

from my POV, it was because friar was not named as NRV or as one of the rolled villagers per OP. cant remember for sure, but i presume i forgot about the other rolled not named.

That's the whole point. You wondered whether someone called Elsa the Village frostbinder was good? Smacks of phoning it in and pretending to be trying to figure out what's happening. Tell tale sign of a wolf, being that disengaged.

(12-08-2025, 07:23 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 07:16 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: Appreciate the response @Countess Markievicz. I can follow the logic you've set out

good chance you're a wolf. you let that go way too easily

(12-08-2025, 07:22 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker  - if you could expand a bit on what you mean about my not reacting I'm more than happy to try to respond

(12-08-2025, 07:14 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: What the hell is a soft role claim? Jacob has mentioned that twice now about me.

(12-08-2025, 07:21 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 03:03 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: i'd say moe has 1 actual wolf in his wolfy leans, and the 2 others in his village leans.

Ok so I'll try to take part, its quotes like the above that leave me totally confused. Like what is that even meant to mean? Is it a hint about who are wolves?

(12-08-2025, 07:27 PM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 07:22 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker  - if you could expand a bit on what you mean about my not reacting I'm more than happy to try to respond

You are addressing it now but not at the time when it happened, that's what's bothering me. If you didn't see it I'd understand that as an explanation. It just seems off to me.

(12-08-2025, 01:45 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 12:43 PM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: If we still have a gun I'd risk it and shoot Vincent.. their post progression is astounding for a newbie, so either they have picked everything up already. Or they are getting help structuring posts.

I'm going to take this as a compliment as those posts are all me.

Given that at the time of the posts the numbers were heavily in favour of the wolves, I can't imagine that a more experienced player would have encouraged me to lift my newbie head above the parapet. I'm sharing my thoughts to put them out there and hopefully help the village.

(12-08-2025, 07:29 PM)Vincent the Artist Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 07:14 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: What the hell is a soft role claim? Jacob has mentioned that twice now about me.

I join my fellow newbie in asking what is a soft role claim?

(12-08-2025, 07:32 PM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: What do we know about Jafars fireball? My head is so fired I can't remember if it's daily use