(06-08-2021, 10:42 AM)cee_jay Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 10:37 AM)nothing Wrote: I mean, you didn't respond to everything in my earlier post either. I wanted to get in that response before munch in case I was dead and wouldn't get to full ISOs.

Also I haven't seen your ISO on ecto yet? Wouldn't that be your best defence?!

It would. I didn't respond to everything because I was so angry at the misrepresentation, and I actually removed a lot of snide comments before posting which would not have been good game play.
I've been in meetings since 9am, leaving home now, and will try pull posts of Ecto's when I get back but dependent on work. 
However Ecto is just sitting back and making no comments on what you have posted because she does not want to hang herself. There is nothing of substance whatsoever in her posts. Nothing!

(06-08-2021, 10:40 AM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 10:16 AM)nothing Wrote: So cee_jay and ecto are obviously going to vote for each other. I'm still undecided between them.

What do you think JGF? It's going to come down to us deciding and voting the same way. And hoping we're right!

I hate this part of the game but I'm gonna stick with Ecto... Which means it's probably ceejay

(06-08-2021, 10:45 AM)nothing Wrote: You make a great point cee_jay, and ecto has been sitting back for pretty much the whole game... As I've seen her do as wolf before.

(03-08-2021, 10:10 PM)cee_jay Wrote: At bedtime my wolfiest players are:
Leg End Reject - with their Wolfy role
Ectoplasm - we have never once been on the same team so that now makes her a wolf

(04-08-2021, 10:15 AM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 10:09 AM)quickbeam Wrote: Shush, you're dead!

That was an odd munch choice tbh, and unfair too

Not so odd. They posted yesterday about not giving away their role. If not a wolf, it would be an obvious pick for role hunting.

(04-08-2021, 10:24 AM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 10:16 AM)Trigger Wrote: These 2, the only ones I remember mentioning the role, I'm not sure if a wolf would post like this, why draw the attention to the post and to themselves then.. surely wolves would bring it up in backroom and ignore it on the thread.

Possibly, or double bluff. I'm not loving CJs shade on me there but am going to assume it's facetious for now.

(04-08-2021, 10:26 AM)quickbeam Wrote: Hmmm, I do remember Clara posting that and thinking - Why make it obvious if a wolf might not have noticed the first time.  I thought it was a bad move by Clara, but never actually thought that a wolf probably wouldn't do that.

(04-08-2021, 10:38 AM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 10:24 AM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Possibly, or double bluff. I'm not loving CJs shade on me there but am going to assume it's facetious for now.

It is, you weren't really on the thread at that stage so I was poking you to see what the reaction was. 
Leg End Reject came straight back with suspecting me, which I didn't like, and tbh I would have had them top of my wolf pile for today as a result. 
@JohnGreenFan is very quiet. As is @HeyV

(04-08-2021, 02:06 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 01:45 PM)Trigger Wrote: What are the reasons?

At the moment I've no one really too much apart from questionable posts here or there from a few.. I've just reread the thread the standing out points for me.

CJ's post about the role isn't sitting right with me because I don't think she would draw attention to that without something behind the post.  

Nothing - has contributed nothing... nearly every post is fluff - pretty undecided though on her though and would like to see a bit more proper posting today.

You're own reaction to my questions earlier threw me a little.

I also didn't like QB's posts this morning, it looked like it was Intentionally misrepresenting my reply to Neo.

If I had to pick 1 for lynch tonight right now I'd probably go with CJ.

I'm not a wolf so you will be wasting your lynch vote on me. 
I drew attention to it as I thought it was a wolf slip, just because Clara brought it up and Leg End did not address it. I thought we had a newbie wolf slip up. I sat on it for a bit, waiting for her to come back and address Clara's call put but she didn't.

(04-08-2021, 02:08 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 02:03 PM)nothing Wrote: On the hunch that wolves are hiding in voting for me, probably Neo. Wouldn't want heyv to be gone today, but would keep an eye on her.

If HeyV was a wolf why wouldn't you want them gone today? Catch a wolf kill a wolf. Shouldn't be swayed by if they are a new player or not...
... Says me not going harder on you as a new player when I thought you were the SK

(04-08-2021, 02:19 PM)Trigger Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 02:06 PM)cee_jay Wrote: I'm not a wolf so you will be wasting your lynch vote on me. 
I drew attention to it as I thought it was a wolf slip, just because Clara brought it up and Leg End did not address it. I thought we had a newbie wolf slip up. I sat on it for a bit, waiting for her to come back and address Clara's call put but she didn't.

See that's what's sitting wrong with me.. 

You preach catch a wolf kill a wolf, yet you sat on that and didn't question her at all on it, she didn't reply so you post "leg End for her wolfy role" before going to bed.

I could be wrong, but that's just eating at me here.

(04-08-2021, 02:24 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 02:19 PM)Trigger Wrote: See that's what's sitting wrong with me.. 

You preach catch a wolf kill a wolf, yet you sat on that and didn't question her at all on it, she didn't reply so you post "leg End for her wolfy role" before going to bed.

I could be wrong, but that's just eating at me here.

You are wrong. I can't explain it further. I didnt go to town on it, because she was a new player and it was D0. I thought I would have lots of time today to question my suspected wolf. Obviously I was wrong on that as we all now know. I posted like that to try get a reaction is all.

(04-08-2021, 02:33 PM)Trigger Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 02:24 PM)cee_jay Wrote: You are wrong. I can't explain it further. I didnt go to town on it, because she was a new player and it was D0. I thought I would have lots of time today to question my suspected wolf. Obviously I was wrong on that as we all now know. I posted like that to try get a reaction is all.

(04-08-2021, 02:25 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Also it wasn't just at her I was posting it. I was trying to see if anyone else would react.

But you were going to bed, you wouldn't have been around to follow up on the reactions, if they did happen.

(04-08-2021, 03:29 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 02:33 PM)Trigger Wrote: But you were going to bed, you wouldn't have been around to follow up on the reactions, if they did happen.

Today? Why did it have to be last night they were followed up on?
I think you are clutching at straws now trying to throw shade my way tbh

(04-08-2021, 07:36 PM)cee_jay Wrote: I'm voting for HeyV. They might be a village newbie, but I feel they have just completely checked out of the game or else using their newness status as a way of not posting too much.

(04-08-2021, 07:40 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 07:35 PM)Trigger Wrote: Lol trying to get the vig to waste their one shot on you

Explain this to me? Why would it be wasting their shot? 
If she is a wolf, and the vig shoots then is that not a win for village?

(04-08-2021, 07:45 PM)Trigger Wrote: Yeah I just used her own phrasing.

But if she is a wolf and knows that she is caught and knows that the other wolf is not in danger. It pushes the lynch to a villager and then takes the shot out of the equation going forward.

Basically going down and taking someone else with them.

(04-08-2021, 07:52 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 07:43 PM)quickbeam Wrote: Not sure if this is a case of "great minds think alike" or if you're copying me here for some reason.

Great minds, I hadn't seen your post before I replied.

(04-08-2021, 07:53 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 07:45 PM)Trigger Wrote: Yeah I just used her own phrasing.

But if she is a wolf and knows that she is caught and knows that the other wolf is not in danger. It pushes the lynch to a villager and then takes the shot out of the equation going forward.

Basically going down and taking someone else with them.

That's a very risky strategy for a game with just 2 wolves.

(04-08-2021, 07:56 PM)Trigger Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 07:37 PM)quickbeam Wrote: Why would that be a waste of a shot?  If she's a wolf then it's good for the village.  If she's not then why would she want the vig to waste their shot?

(04-08-2021, 07:53 PM)cee_jay Wrote: That's a very risky strategy for a game with just 2 wolves.

By her own admission she is giving up, if she is a wolf and knows she is caught, why wouldn't they take a risk.

(04-08-2021, 09:09 AM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Morning. Always wary of overly long discussions about roles. Seer and vig should play roles best they know how. I know newbies can use guidance but focusing too much on mechanics can be a safe place for wolves to talk. Not saying that's what's happening here, just advocating for moving on. So far nothing and Clara seeming wolfiest to me but I'm not overly attached to those reads.

(04-08-2021, 03:47 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 03:20 PM)quickbeam Wrote: You're always suspicious of me.  You're wrong this time.  You may even know you're wrong.

I wouldn't say always but I've definitely been burned.
I won't be putting any votes in yet but interesting response.

(05-08-2021, 07:42 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 07:41 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: I'm sure it's Shane and he will be lynched tonight.
If it somehow isn't him, Ecto would be my next choice for a peek.

But I am fairly confident it's Shane

#metoo

(04-08-2021, 05:39 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 05:25 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: Nothing and HeyV are a wolf team, nothing isn't wolf hunting and heyv is a little too quiet for my liking even as a newbie, there's surely something that has come up that'd you'd question even to be like 'What does this mean'. Nothing has opted for the EVERYBODY VOTING FOR ME IS A WOLF tactic which is frustrating. 

I will likely be putting a vote on Nothing later.

I noticed the same post earlier but I'm not convinced. It's what has them on my radar but then you're there too. You've been pretty quiet yourself.

(04-08-2021, 06:45 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Read the whole thread back. Nothing definitely comes across as the most wolfy. I'm also suspicious of JGF though and she is naming Nothing and HeyV as a wolf team. Sometimes I hate this game.

(04-08-2021, 07:08 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 07:01 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote: I'm a bit stuck on the Trigger v ceejay posts earlier. Trigger reads more town in my head but the argument also feels a bit forced??? Not sure is ceejay just trying to push Trigger off or is Trigger tunnelling her a bit. Cant decide

There was also something earlier about Neo posting maths and game mechanics which made me think, I haven't been wolf reading him this game but he's usually a very strong town read for me from the beginning so that's a little off for me.

QB I'm not getting much from but they did say they were finding it hard to juggle game and work so they will possibly be on more this evening.

I should be around now until lynch if there's any questions that were directed at me that I missed

You have N and HV paired up but N earlier said that she thinks wolves voting for her. 
Tbf I found the logic weird but would wolves bus in a tight numbers game?

(04-08-2021, 08:36 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 08:26 PM)quickbeam Wrote: It's a bit early, but I've voted for Trigger since, I think, about 6.30pm.  I wasn't keen on him suggesting a seer keep quiet until two wolves were found and he seemed to be picking fights with a lot of people yesterday.  I'm not sure we've played together before, so I don't know if this is just his usual style, but it seemed confrontational a bit beyond just shaking the trees.  A wolf may not raise their head above the parapet like he's done, but on the other hand, a wolf may do so, I've seen it frequently too. 

I've not played with nothing either, and I haven't ruled her out either, but maybe I'm too empathetic, but I do know what it's like to have a wagon on you when you're innocent, and I *think* she's genuine in that.

If I was to guess on the second wolf though, on nothing much than gut, I'd go Ecto, but my vote isn't on her tonight.

Is this because I said I was suspicious of you earlier? If it makes you feel better, I've changed my mind. 

My vote is on Nothing. I've been  reading Trigger as village and while I initially thought his post about Nothing was strange, his explanation made sense.

(06-08-2021, 12:44 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(04-08-2021, 09:09 AM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Morning. Always wary of overly long discussions about roles. Seer and vig should play roles best they know how. I know newbies can use guidance but focusing too much on mechanics can be a safe place for wolves to talk. Not saying that's what's happening here, just advocating for moving on. So far nothing and Clara seeming wolfiest to me but I'm not overly attached to those reads.

Here is Ecto's first input into the actual game - everything before this is pure fluff.
This post in itself is fluff, and typical wolf behaviours of not coming down hard on any one side and staying neutral, not drawing any attention on herself. Not overly attached to the reads because she was waiting to see how best she could stay hidden. Also advocating moving on in support of her wolf mate Neo who was involved in the discussion. 

I, on the other hand, spent the first day trying to help the village by poking around for reactions, trying to get people to engage on the thread, asking questions. 

This is even addressed directly by me when Ecto said " I'm not loving CJs shade on me there but am going to assume it's facetious for now." And I directly responded saying she hadn't been engaging on the thread, and I was poking her for a reaction. 
Of course she didn't love shade on her as she is a wolf. She didn't address it though properly. Just swatted away. In comparison when Trigger accused me of being a wolf, I addressed his concerns head on as I have absolutely nothing to hide in this game.

(05-08-2021, 12:08 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Have done my read back and I'm not any the wiser. 

CJ: Making sense, measured. Spotted Triggers seeming slip but didn't vote there. Am thinking village but wary as wolf CJ plays a good game.

Clara: A bit chaotic, nothing new there and I do have a tendency to read that chaos as wolfy. More certain this morning but one to watch. 

JGF: Painted a picture of Nothing and HeyV as a team but then backed off on it yet still voted there. Not adding up. 

Neo: Very factual and mechanical which is normal enough and I often find him quiet as a wolf BUT I did say that exact thing last game so may have adjusted.
 
Shane: Haven't a clue, there hasn't been enough posts. 

Nothing: Feel bad if actually NRV but read back didn't assuage my suspicions. Would love to see more analysis posting rather than defensive posting today.

(05-08-2021, 01:01 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Remaining players:
Ecto- I always have trust issues with Ecto as I believe we always end up on opposite teams, and she is a very good player. In this instance, I hope my terrible instincts are right, and she is village this game
CJ - Village
Clara - chaotic posts, leaning village
JGF - as earlier, I have a wolf lean here.
Neo - what JGF posted earlier... Why take out QB and leave Neo exposed? However, if I have a wolf lean on JGF, why would they back Neo like this... But Neo did jump quickly onto the Trigger post, I don't think Trigger had even responded to QB and me asking about it and his vote was cast
Shane - just subbed in, nothing to judge on yet.
Nothing - quiet today so far; I am falling on the side of village based on yesterday's posts

(06-08-2021, 12:55 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(05-08-2021, 12:08 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote: Have done my read back and I'm not any the wiser. 

CJ: Making sense, measured. Spotted Triggers seeming slip but didn't vote there. Am thinking village but wary as wolf CJ plays a good game.

Clara: A bit chaotic, nothing new there and I do have a tendency to read that chaos as wolfy. More certain this morning but one to watch. 

JGF: Painted a picture of Nothing and HeyV as a team but then backed off on it yet still voted there. Not adding up. 

Neo: Very factual and mechanical which is normal enough and I often find him quiet as a wolf BUT I did say that exact thing last game so may have adjusted.
 
Shane: Haven't a clue, there hasn't been enough posts. 

Nothing: Feel bad if actually NRV but read back didn't assuage my suspicions. Would love to see more analysis posting rather than defensive posting today.

Yet again her "reads" are a whole load of nothing. Voted nothing but isn't strong enough to stick by that as wolf. Fence sitting again

(06-08-2021, 12:04 PM)nothing Wrote: @JohnGreenFan I think we should go with cee_jay

(06-08-2021, 01:13 PM)nothing Wrote: Whichever of you is the wolf, you've played it well. I won't be upset with the result whichever way it goes.

(06-08-2021, 01:14 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 01:13 PM)nothing Wrote: Whichever of you is the wolf, you've played it well. I won't be upset with the result whichever way it goes.

This is true.

Although trigger is definitely screaming at us both in a deadroom somewhere 

(06-08-2021, 01:15 PM)cee_jay Wrote: @JohnGreenFan @nothing 40 mins ish in which I need to eat lunch and try to answer any of your questions before Ecto takes this home for the wolves.
Any questions you have for me that might help with your decision?
All I can say is I am NRV, I have tried play for the village all game, and I'm sorry you think I'm now the more Wolfy.

(06-08-2021, 01:12 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Well congrats to Ecto then. Well played wolves!

(06-08-2021, 01:23 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 01:12 PM)cee_jay Wrote: Well congrats to Ecto then. Well played wolves!

I will say this again. You are scary dangerous as a wolf.

(06-08-2021, 01:17 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 01:15 PM)cee_jay Wrote: @JohnGreenFan @nothing 40 mins ish in which I need to eat lunch and try to answer any of your questions before Ecto takes this home for the wolves.
Any questions you have for me that might help with your decision?
All I can say is I am NRV, I have tried play for the village all game, and I'm sorry you think I'm now the more Wolfy.

I think it's the defensiveness for me and the fact that I was village reading you. When I'm still alive on the last day I have to consider that there's a reason the wolves don't see me as a threat and it's usually because I'm village reading the one who is left.

(06-08-2021, 01:17 PM)JohnGreenFan Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 01:15 PM)cee_jay Wrote: @JohnGreenFan @nothing 40 mins ish in which I need to eat lunch and try to answer any of your questions before Ecto takes this home for the wolves.
Any questions you have for me that might help with your decision?
All I can say is I am NRV, I have tried play for the village all game, and I'm sorry you think I'm now the more Wolfy.

I think it's the defensiveness for me and the fact that I was village reading you. When I'm still alive on the last day I have to consider that there's a reason the wolves don't see me as a threat and it's usually because I'm village reading the one who is left.

(06-08-2021, 01:26 PM)cee_jay Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 01:23 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote: I will say this again. You are scary dangerous as a wolf.

I AM NOT A WOLF.
you on the other hand have played an excellent game. Well done.

(06-08-2021, 01:47 PM)Ectoplasm Wrote:

(06-08-2021, 01:26 PM)cee_jay Wrote: I AM NOT A WOLF.
you on the other hand have played an excellent game. Well done.

Except you are.