(12-08-2025, 10:14 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:10 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: OK this is a mindfuck. So Mc was faking it, which means Jacob is not clear anymore.

I was never clear, him saying he veto my vote is just that, him saying it.

(12-08-2025, 10:13 AM)Amy the Singer Wrote: 5 v 4. Lylo of a Tuesday

(12-08-2025, 10:11 AM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:10 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: OK this is a mindfuck. So Mc was faking it, which means Jacob is not clear anymore.

faking what? forgive me for not keeping up

(12-08-2025, 10:15 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Focusing on the Wolves (4) now, do we see all 4 of them on that top wagon? I can't see it personally myself.



I think that the wolves weren't expecting Dora and Gordon to be killed by Scar, so were possibly feeling comfortable with 2 on the top and 2 elsewhere.. I think there is definitely at least 1 in Raymond, Amy and Countess. Personally think there could be 2. And that's where the focus should be today.

Anyone any thoughts on this?

(12-08-2025, 10:15 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Focusing on the Wolves (4) now, do we see all 4 of them on that top wagon? I can't see it personally myself.



I think that the wolves weren't expecting Dora and Gordon to be killed by Scar, so were possibly feeling comfortable with 2 on the top and 2 elsewhere.. I think there is definitely at least 1 in Raymond, Amy and Countess. Personally think there could be 2. And that's where the focus should be today.

Anyone any thoughts on this?

(12-08-2025, 10:15 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Focusing on the Wolves (4) now, do we see all 4 of them on that top wagon? I can't see it personally myself.



I think that the wolves weren't expecting Dora and Gordon to be killed by Scar, so were possibly feeling comfortable with 2 on the top and 2 elsewhere.. I think there is definitely at least 1 in Raymond, Amy and Countess. Personally think there could be 2. And that's where the focus should be today.

Anyone any thoughts on this?

(12-08-2025, 10:24 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: I mean if Amy is a wolf than that clears me and vice versa. Countess for me has more of a question mark, playing up not knowing what is going on, first with Friar and second with the Mc/Jacob thing which was not discreet. Feel a bit better about Lily knowing Mc was faking it. Thought the questioning her last night indicated he knew something.
Also should look at voters moving off Amy to Oprah, could have been a safe way to avoid heat, hide in the crowds. We're all ignoring Moe who is doing sweet fuck all as well which worries me.

(12-08-2025, 10:25 AM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:15 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Focusing on the Wolves (4) now, do we see all 4 of them on that top wagon? I can't see it personally myself.



I think that the wolves weren't expecting Dora and Gordon to be killed by Scar, so were possibly feeling comfortable with 2 on the top and 2 elsewhere.. I think there is definitely at least 1 in Raymond, Amy and Countess. Personally think there could be 2. And that's where the focus should be today.

Anyone any thoughts on this?

how would you say the wolves spread their votes?

(12-08-2025, 10:20 AM)Amy the Singer Wrote: Anyone want to own up to blocking Dexter?

(12-08-2025, 10:29 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: Do we know if Dora had a peek first night? I'm reading back and she goes onto Amy kinda out of the blue.

(12-08-2025, 10:27 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:24 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: I mean if Amy is a wolf than that clears me and vice versa. Countess for me has more of a question mark, playing up not knowing what is going on, first with Friar and second with the Mc/Jacob thing which was not discreet. Feel a bit better about Lily knowing Mc was faking it. Thought the questioning her last night indicated he knew something.
Also should look at voters moving off Amy to Oprah, could have been a safe way to avoid heat, hide in the crowds. We're all ignoring Moe who is doing sweet fuck all as well which worries me.

Expand on this...

With the numbers we need to focus on catching a wolf today and analytically the best bet is in those three posters

(12-08-2025, 10:29 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:25 AM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: how would you say the wolves spread their votes?

It's literally in the post you quoted 😂

(12-08-2025, 10:29 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: Do we know if Dora had a peek first night? I'm reading back and she goes onto Amy kinda out of the blue.

(12-08-2025, 10:33 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:27 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Expand on this...

With the numbers we need to focus on catching a wolf today and analytically the best bet is in those three posters

If Amy is a wolf than I can't be a wolf as I wouldn't have started a wagon on a wolf. If I am a wolf than Amy would be town as why start wagon on a wolf.

We could also both be town. I know I'm village, don't know Amy's alignment. 

We have to be super careful as we can't afford to flip wrong. For me Countess has more red flags than Amy at this stage. I can't get past claiming not to know whether Elsa was good or bad and not noticing Mc clearing Jacob.

(12-08-2025, 10:29 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: Do we know if Dora had a peek first night? I'm reading back and she goes onto Amy kinda out of the blue.

(12-08-2025, 10:36 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:33 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: If Amy is a wolf than I can't be a wolf as I wouldn't have started a wagon on a wolf. If I am a wolf than Amy would be town as why start wagon on a wolf.

We could also both be town. I know I'm village, don't know Amy's alignment. 

We have to be super careful as we can't afford to flip wrong. For me Countess has more red flags than Amy at this stage. I can't get past claiming not to know whether Elsa was good or bad and not noticing Mc clearing Jacob.

At the possibility of becoming a target, the veto on shooting me by mc was not him clearing me. I didn't think it was for a second, he said himself was just talk.

(12-08-2025, 10:33 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:27 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: Expand on this...

With the numbers we need to focus on catching a wolf today and analytically the best bet is in those three posters

If Amy is a wolf than I can't be a wolf as I wouldn't have started a wagon on a wolf. If I am a wolf than Amy would be town as why start wagon on a wolf.

We could also both be town. I know I'm village, don't know Amy's alignment. 

We have to be super careful as we can't afford to flip wrong. For me Countess has more red flags than Amy at this stage. I can't get past claiming not to know whether Elsa was good or bad and not noticing Mc clearing Jacob.

(12-08-2025, 10:38 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: There's usually a wolf on the first train to spread out votes. I'm not a wolf. That leaves

Mor
Lily
Xeena
Vincent

(12-08-2025, 10:37 AM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:29 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: Do we know if Dora had a peek first night? I'm reading back and she goes onto Amy kinda out of the blue.

if reading back and finding these posts, why not quote them for everyone's benefit?

(12-08-2025, 10:39 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:38 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: There's usually a wolf on the first train to spread out votes. I'm not a wolf. That leaves

Mor
Lily
Xeena
Vincent

 And me.. that's where my vote was, from 1pm.. I don't know why countess is using the blocked vote on me to minimise the %'s

(11-08-2025, 10:04 PM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(11-08-2025, 09:59 PM)McDonald the Farmer Wrote: There was a proposal for Jacob to be shot earlier. I veto'd that decision, meaning i don't think it should go ahead, because i have my reasons. Ray pushed me on my reasons, but i believed that i should not say anything more, as that would be detrimental to the village.
It's not really a ww term, more a general term, so don't expect it in the glossary.

Yeah that was me that put forward Jacob as a shot target this morning

(12-08-2025, 06:46 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Morning folks,  early start for me as you can see! In the office today so might not get on quite as much but will do my best

Thats about as rough a monday as i can remember, im not even sure where to start today. 6v4v1 now with a munch to come shortly. Goes without saying we need to hit a wolf today and hope for some crossfire between scar and the wolves

(12-08-2025, 07:24 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(11-08-2025, 09:13 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Jesus, I was convinced Oprah was a wolf, the game play was so off.

How did the sk spot Dora? Must read back on her posts.

Were you convinced Oprah was a wolf though? You said you were between Oprah and countess yesterday

(12-08-2025, 07:25 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(11-08-2025, 09:14 PM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: Dexter's vote was blocked. Does this clear him as a wolf?

Why did you think someone having a vote blocked could clear them as a wolf?

(12-08-2025, 07:32 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(11-08-2025, 08:01 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: My FFA:
Amy - for her list I addressed above, I don't think her reasoning stacks up and screams non village to me.

Oprah - to be honest this feels a bit of a cop out, but she isn't giving me much to go on in relation to reasons she is helpful to village right now.

I haven't decided which way to vote. I'm going to mull it over until after only connect and give Oprah a chance to answer my post above.

(11-08-2025, 08:34 PM)Lilly the Millennial Wrote: I voted @Oprah the Gossip at 20:30

Can you explain how you went from Oprah is a cop out vote, to voting Oprah within 30 mins?

(12-08-2025, 07:56 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 07:52 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: Thought it might have been a wolf who blocked them, although given there are hidden village roles maybe it was a villager. Not sure what the vote block was meant to achieve given the runaway vote on Oprah.

I could be wrong but I think those vote blocking powers need to be activated early,  so the person doing it may have had to choose a name by a certain time yesterday

(12-08-2025, 08:34 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: One thing I would say is that I don't think Mcdonald is scar..  they moved their vote late off a counter wagon.  If scar they don't know who Oprah is and is risking being killed by last vote on gaston

That leaves dora cleared on the amy counter wagon, alongside Raymond, who is not

(12-08-2025, 08:39 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker west was your reason for voting amy?

(12-08-2025, 08:40 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: What was your reason i meant

(12-08-2025, 08:48 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 08:40 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: I stayed on wagon as enough people had moved that it didn't matter. I made it clear I had no problem moving at a late stage if asked. I could also note that the wolves would have known that Oprah wasn't Gaston so late movers could have been wolves (as could I, as I offered to move late).

On balance I don't consider Mc wolf at present, as the veto thing would be a pretty ballsy move from a wolf.

Yeah thats why I said I dont think Mcdonald is scar.  They could be a wolf or village but I don't think scar

The main wagon ended up large but at one stage it was relatively close.. if dora was still alive id probably be between the two of ye but I think you're as good a starting point as any 😂

(12-08-2025, 08:58 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 08:47 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: I gave a pretty detailed reason to Dora last night.
Basically reading on mobile I thought the ISOs Dexter did on me and Lilly were done by Amy as she mentioned us as most suspicious based on her ISO. 

Dexter pointed out to me that he had done the ISO not Amy, so that made it look a bit more like she had cribbed someone else's work rather than genuinely wolf hunting. 
Then she was quick to support Gordon's rubbish two named votes thing which only benefitted wolves. 

She told you she would post her ISOs, notes in an hour at half three, but then claimed way later than that she was still taking notes. 

I think her posts last night were a bit more reassuring to me, but not sure whether she's just gone in to damage limitation mode.

I dont really understand your reasoning for voting amy, it just reads as very confusing to me

Ill check back if I have time but it just seems like you got confused and used it as a reason to vote amy

Id agree amy wasn't very helpful yesterday but their posts last night were a little better so im happy to hear them out today rather than rush to vote their

(12-08-2025, 09:10 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: If I had to guess id say scar is probably in the Oprah wagon somewhere

(12-08-2025, 09:24 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 09:21 AM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: I thought she was a likely wolf because her posts were fluffy and she kept speculating about the Cruella power. She later backed away from her speculation that more than one tied player could be lynched.

What convinced me was her posts after the wagon had formed, she didn't try to convince us she wasn't a wolf, she didn't really contribute any reads of other players so didn't look like she was wolf hunting.

Yeah id agree she was a good candidate based on her posts but I don't think id have gone so far to say i was convinced,  especially on d1 nothing is set in stone

(12-08-2025, 09:32 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 08:31 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: Lilly sprang into action last night after the lynch but I'm not sure how helpful any of it was. Particularly liked this gem which narrowed the wolves down to the main wagon, the other wagons and off wagon, which basically encompasses all players.

I dont agree that lily sprung into action last night.. I had a fair bit of back and forth with them during the day

They were on my ffa but I did like some of the fight they put up when I questioned them yesterday, so im unsure there tbh

(12-08-2025, 09:34 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 09:31 AM)Amy the Singer Wrote: But you voted there?

Yeah i sure did, hence why I said they were a good candidate for the lynch.. was i convinced? No

I said it at some stage yesterday,  if Oprah survived yesterday and had they same type of gameplay today, id just be voting there today anyway

(12-08-2025, 10:42 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote:

(12-08-2025, 10:37 AM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: if reading back and finding these posts, why not quote them for everyone's benefit?

And you've been very helpful this whole thread haven't you

(12-08-2025, 10:45 AM)Amy the Singer Wrote:

(11-08-2025, 10:04 PM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah that was me that put forward Jacob as a shot target this morning

(12-08-2025, 06:46 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Morning folks,  early start for me as you can see! In the office today so might not get on quite as much but will do my best

Thats about as rough a monday as i can remember, im not even sure where to start today. 6v4v1 now with a munch to come shortly. Goes without saying we need to hit a wolf today and hope for some crossfire between scar and the wolves

(12-08-2025, 07:24 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Were you convinced Oprah was a wolf though? You said you were between Oprah and countess yesterday

(12-08-2025, 07:25 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Why did you think someone having a vote blocked could clear them as a wolf?

(12-08-2025, 07:32 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Can you explain how you went from Oprah is a cop out vote, to voting Oprah within 30 mins?

(12-08-2025, 07:56 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: I could be wrong but I think those vote blocking powers need to be activated early,  so the person doing it may have had to choose a name by a certain time yesterday

(12-08-2025, 08:34 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: One thing I would say is that I don't think Mcdonald is scar..  they moved their vote late off a counter wagon.  If scar they don't know who Oprah is and is risking being killed by last vote on gaston

That leaves dora cleared on the amy counter wagon, alongside Raymond, who is not

(12-08-2025, 08:39 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker west was your reason for voting amy?

(12-08-2025, 08:40 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: What was your reason i meant

(12-08-2025, 08:48 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah thats why I said I dont think Mcdonald is scar.  They could be a wolf or village but I don't think scar

The main wagon ended up large but at one stage it was relatively close.. if dora was still alive id probably be between the two of ye but I think you're as good a starting point as any 😂

(12-08-2025, 08:58 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: I dont really understand your reasoning for voting amy, it just reads as very confusing to me

Ill check back if I have time but it just seems like you got confused and used it as a reason to vote amy

Id agree amy wasn't very helpful yesterday but their posts last night were a little better so im happy to hear them out today rather than rush to vote their

(12-08-2025, 09:10 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: If I had to guess id say scar is probably in the Oprah wagon somewhere

(12-08-2025, 09:24 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah id agree she was a good candidate based on her posts but I don't think id have gone so far to say i was convinced,  especially on d1 nothing is set in stone

(12-08-2025, 09:32 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: I dont agree that lily sprung into action last night.. I had a fair bit of back and forth with them during the day

They were on my ffa but I did like some of the fight they put up when I questioned them yesterday, so im unsure there tbh

(12-08-2025, 09:34 AM)Boris the Fool Wrote: Yeah i sure did, hence why I said they were a good candidate for the lynch.. was i convinced? No

I said it at some stage yesterday,  if Oprah survived yesterday and had they same type of gameplay today, id just be voting there today anyway

All of Boris's posts from the time of Aladdin being announced as seer. Think he may have peeked either Ray or Lilly.

(11-08-2025, 07:22 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker After saying all the above, I am currently voting for Amy, I dont have a problem with your direction of vote, more so how you got there

(11-08-2025, 07:22 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker After saying all the above, I am currently voting for Amy, I dont have a problem with your direction of vote, more so how you got there

(11-08-2025, 07:22 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: @Raymond the Shoemaker After saying all the above, I am currently voting for Amy, I dont have a problem with your direction of vote, more so how you got there

(11-08-2025, 07:29 PM)Dora the Explorer Wrote: I am on Amy well, will be in the next couple of mins

Also, need to sign up to a spelling and grammar course after this game, can hardly read my own bloody posts

(12-08-2025, 10:50 AM)Raymond the Shoemaker Wrote: Logically if he was Aladdin he wouldn't have any seer peek till the morning, and he was munched prior to any reveal. His posting this morning was interrogating people more than anything else.

(12-08-2025, 10:56 AM)Jacob the Tailor Wrote: If she had a peek Sunday night and chose Amy it would make sense. Why would you vote so cleanly night one

(12-08-2025, 11:06 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: To add to that, I think if Ray flips bad, I think Amy is the other one there due to Rays "clear" comment

(12-08-2025, 11:06 AM)Dexter the Dragoon Wrote: To add to that, I think if Ray flips bad, I think Amy is the other one there due to Rays "clear" comment