(19-01-2023, 01:35 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 01:30 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: I'm not lying, I got a false result. There are no wolves in the 3 of us who voted for Lilly.

if you flip village, then the 3 villagers will vote countess and 3 traitors will vote elsewhere. the game will be decided on a coin flip. whomever wins that coin flip will win the game, as then they will be able to force the win.

(19-01-2023, 02:18 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 02:00 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 12:48 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: Day 1
Lilly (3): Friar[98], Dora[105], Edward[151]
Edward (3): Moe[107] , Weyland[114], William[138]
William (2): Zeena[104], Gordon[133]
Weyland (1): Lilly[96]
Dora (1): Countess[126]

Non-voters (1): Amy

Day 2
Edward (4): William[311], Weyland[322], Moe[323], Dora[360]
Dora (4): Friar[338], Gordon[341], Countess[344], Zeena[358]
Friar (1): Edward[333]
William (1): Amy[343]

day 3
dora: 3 : willliam, weyland, friar, countess
Friar: 2 : dora, gordon, zeena, moe

which leaves william weyland friar countess gordon zeena and moe

And since we are in end game, I shall revise my estimate of traitors up to 3.

friar is one.

so two in william weyland countess gordon zeena moe

that first kill is an oddity, and since zeena has ruled out a team shield, someone attempted to kill zeena.

if village, zeena has no reason to lie about this.
are traitors allowed to target themselves for murder? I'd answer no to this, which would clear zeena.

if it was a team shoeld, i'd be clearing zeena anyhow, so in my mind, if zeena is a traitor, I've lost any hopes at winning, well done traitor:zeena

so two in william weyland countess moe

out of them 4, i'd banish william and weyland and risk sharing the prize with zeena countess and moe.

ah, with all the information given, I've figured out night 1 kill.

zeena's clear disolves away.

zeena has said they could shield anyone.
So, they shielded someone else, and murderized that person, making for our wierd night 1 kill.
they sacrifised night 1 murder in order to make zeena all shiney and villagery.

zeena is traitor, i don't know why else we would have the odd night 1 murder save.

(19-01-2023, 02:21 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Vote Friar

(19-01-2023, 02:23 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 02:21 PM)Friar Tuck Wrote: Vote Friar

why not countess?

(19-01-2023, 02:32 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: oh, i thought we would have found out everyone's answer to that question, that's a bit disappointing.

Friar Tuck Wrote:#97
16-01-2023, 05:15 PM



My thoughts at this stage:

Amy the Singer - an inactive player always makes me suspicious so wolf lean here
Countess Markievicz - not enough to go on here
Dora the Explorer - neutral at the minute
Edward the Barber - the gifs put me off but post #91 suggests village
Friar Tuck - im village
Gordon the Cook - village
Lilly the Millennial - wolf lean
Mick the Drunk - dead village
Moe the Innkeeper - neutral at the minute
Weyland the Blacksmith - wolf lean
William the Grave Robber - wolf lean
Zeena Warrior Princess - village

William the Grave Robber Wrote:#114
16-01-2023, 06:10 PM

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Post Counts (as of post #104)

Amy the Singer - 0
Countess Markievicz - 2
Dora the Explorer - 5
Edward the Barber - 17
Friar Tuck - 5
Gordon the Cook - 17
Lilly the Millennial - 12
Mick the Drunk - 2
Moe the Innkeeper - 11
Weyland the Blacksmith - 6
William the Grave Robber - 5
Zeena Warrior Princess - 9

Leans

Amy the Singer - None, not here to assess
Countess Markievicz - Either, can't read off 2 posts
Dora the Explorer - Either, not much to see yet
Edward the Barber - Traitor, Mentions a good man must wear a mask first post
Friar Tuck - Faithful, hard to get a read yet
Gordon the Cook - Traitor, trying to rig the challenge feels devious and like a manipulation attempt, doesn't sit right with me
Lilly the Millennial - Faithful, trying to play the Gen Z, doesn't know herself at all
Mick the Drunk - Faithful, murdered
Moe the Innkeeper - Either, could be hiding in asking about game mechanics, could be genuine
Weyland the Blacksmith - Either, possibly pocketing Gordon, or just grateful for some hints
William the Grave Robber - Faithful, but I would say that
Zeena Warrior Princess - Either, pushed back at Gordon, some fluff

Ok, I reckon with 12 players, it's most likely 2 Traitors, possibly with a conversion down the line. The show starts with 3 Traitors of 22 players, 3 in 12 seems awfully unbalanced.

(19-01-2023, 02:22 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 02:00 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: ah, with all the information given, I've figured out night 1 kill.

zeena's clear disolves away.

zeena has said they could shield anyone.
So, they shielded someone else, and murderized that person, making for our wierd night 1 kill.
they sacrifised night 1 murder in order to make zeena all shiney and villagery.

zeena is traitor, i don't know why else we would have the odd night 1 murder save.

If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo

Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:#232
17-01-2023, 04:28 PM

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Well I said I won and used a shield on myself last night and someone was attacked and shielded last night, no one else has claimed to have won a shield.

(19-01-2023, 03:17 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Friar had William as their best wolf lean (after Dora) when I asked yesterday morning

friar tuck Wrote:Amy simply because of no posts. Lilly because most of the posts were fluff, looked like they were coasting. Weyland because of the apparent pocketing. William again wasn't adding much.

Im not sure where I'm at today because a lot of theories and new info has come to light but Countess is coming on my radar. Zeena still seems very village to me so I can accept her prize claim more easily.

(19-01-2023, 03:34 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 03:17 PM)Moe the Innkeeper Wrote: Friar had William as their best wolf lean (after Dora) when I asked yesterday morning

yeah, but their reasoning for william was non existant when i asked.

friar tuck Wrote:Amy simply because of no posts. Lilly because most of the posts were fluff, looked like they were coasting. Weyland because of the apparent pocketing. William again wasn't adding much.

Im not sure where I'm at today because a lot of theories and new info has come to light but Countess is coming on my radar. Zeena still seems very village to me so I can accept her prize claim more easily.

(19-01-2023, 03:31 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 02:22 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo

But, then there is this that we could find.

Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:#232
17-01-2023, 04:28 PM

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Well I said I won and used a shield on myself last night and someone was attacked and shielded last night, no one else has claimed to have won a shield.

This was before you won the 2nd shield, so anybody else could have won the 2nd shield, and said it could be used on anyone, so best get out ahead of that and say you used it on yourself. A traitor has no need to use it on themselves, so what good is the shield to the traitors? Then comes the plan to sacrifice your kill for your golden ticket.

(19-01-2023, 03:52 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: Apologies for my absence, had a migraine yesterday, and got to bed very late so knew there was a good chance I'd miss this mornings voting, so put in a proxy on Friar as well as a vote to continue the game. Trying to properly catch up now. Off a quick read -

Countess - Slight Lean Traitor, claimed a prize that doesn't appear in the show, results are not alignment indicative if it was won, possible Zeena was targeted for murder as Traitors assumed there was only 1 prize (ie Countesses prize)
Gordon - Lean Faithful, hasn't done anything suspicious since day 1 imo, and given that I misinterpreted Edward, probably same here
Moe - Either, not sure he's made any waves in either direction
William - Faithful (though I can see how my tunnel on Edward and disappearing for 2 votes is read as suspicious)
Weyland - Either, need to read back
Zeena - Lean Faithful, aside from Countess and Friar claiming non-show prizes, she's the only one to claim what is a legitimare show prize, and it was used as per Necro's post morning after.

(19-01-2023, 03:46 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 03:31 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote: But, then there is this that we could find.


This was before you won the 2nd shield, so anybody else could have won the 2nd shield, and said it could be used on anyone, so best get out ahead of that and say you used it on yourself. A traitor has no need to use it on themselves, so what good is the shield to the traitors? Then comes the plan to sacrifice your kill for your golden ticket.

I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield? 

Who is your most wolf lean now? Mine is William or Weyland

Who are you voting for next? I'm voting William or Weyland

Get a bus on me if you want, then go for hopefully a traitor. We have one more mislynch? If that is correct, use it on me if you want.

(19-01-2023, 03:58 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 03:52 PM)William the Grave Robber Wrote: Apologies for my absence, had a migraine yesterday, and got to bed very late so knew there was a good chance I'd miss this mornings voting, so put in a proxy on Friar as well as a vote to continue the game. Trying to properly catch up now. Off a quick read -

Countess - Slight Lean Traitor, claimed a prize that doesn't appear in the show, results are not alignment indicative if it was won, possible Zeena was targeted for murder as Traitors assumed there was only 1 prize (ie Countesses prize)
Gordon - Lean Faithful, hasn't done anything suspicious since day 1 imo, and given that I misinterpreted Edward, probably same here
Moe - Either, not sure he's made any waves in either direction
William - Faithful (though I can see how my tunnel on Edward and disappearing for 2 votes is read as suspicious)
Weyland - Either, need to read back
Zeena - Lean Faithful, aside from Countess and Friar claiming non-show prizes, she's the only one to claim what is a legitimare show prize, and it was used as per Necro's post morning after.

1. This is a mafia game inspired by the show. Were there proxy votes in the show? Friar was a traitor, so my info was correct.
2. Zeena was targeted N1, I did not claim my prize until D2

Amy the Singer Wrote:#241
17-01-2023, 05:04 PM

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Did @Zeena Warrior Princess confirm her shield prize win last night in round table thread ?

My head is pushing for @Friar Tuck ( not liking my nude singing ) @Zeena Warrior Princess and @Countess Markievicz as did both win prizes

Friar Tuck Wrote: 
#273
17-01-2023, 06:00 PM

William the Grave Robber Wrote:(17-01-2023, 05:53)
If we believe Countess and she's Faithful, it's a waste of a banishment to target her, as we're still left with 2 Traitors and 3 possible culprits in which there might only be 1. Though we would know she hadn't lied.

If we don't believe Countess, and she's a Traitor, we banish her, and she's lied to protect her fellow Traitor, then we have 3 in the clear.

But there's also a possibility that she is a Traitor and is telling the truth!

How do you know there's 2 traitors?

(19-01-2023, 04:03 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 03:46 PM)Zeena Warrior Princess Wrote: I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield? 

Who is your most wolf lean now? Mine is William or Weyland

Who are you voting for next? I'm voting William or Weyland

Get a bus on me if you want, then go for hopefully a traitor. We have one more mislynch? If that is correct, use it on me if you want.

>I don't get this, has anybody else claimed to have won the second shield?

At the time of the quote, you had not won the 2nd shield, therefore "anybody else could have won the 2nd shield", and when they did, they would have told us that it could be used on anyone. That's why you were honest about .

So, this sentence "If that were true I would have made it clear I could only save myself. This is not my first rodeo" was a lie.

(19-01-2023, 04:07 PM)Gordon the Cook Wrote:

(19-01-2023, 03:58 PM)Countess Markievicz Wrote: 1. This is a mafia game inspired by the show. Were there proxy votes in the show? Friar was a traitor, so my info was correct.
2. Zeena was targeted N1, I did not claim my prize until D2

So? If you were a traitor, they'd know that you have prize, doesn't matter when you claimed it. So targeting zeena before you claimed is valid, for that way of thinking, which i don't agree with, but the line of though is valid all the same.