(13-10-2025, 06:22 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:20 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: The seer with one ear, sounds legit

Gotta get that post count up eh Eddie 😁

(13-10-2025, 06:27 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:22 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: Gotta get that post count up eh Eddie 😁

Yes, thats exactly what I'm doing. Thanks for giving me the oportuntity to reply

(13-10-2025, 06:25 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote: I wouldn't be voting Pat, he seems to be getting a hard time for no particular reason. Was it the one wolf comments from yesterday?
It will be a complete stab in the dark tonight for me

(13-10-2025, 06:23 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:17 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: 4 village leans, that's hardly excessive.

Its a decent amount this early on

One of them was purely based cause the player asked what pocketing is. Is that all it takes to get a village lean?

(13-10-2025, 06:30 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:23 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Its a decent amount this early on

One of them was purely based cause the player asked what pocketing is. Is that all it takes to get a village lean?

Now you're jumping to conclusions after getting so worked up about your post being jumped on.

I posted my notes, I noted that Vernon seemed to be a new player, I didn't note anything suspicious in their posts and they have posted a lot more than just asking what pocketing is. I don't see anything wolfy in their posts and I think the two of you misinterpreted each other's posts.

Thinking you are a wolf for the 'one named wolf' post is crazy, likewise, I don't think Vernon is a wolf based on the 'bickering' post. I give my reads based on how I interpret other's posts, I have nothing else to go on on day 1.

(13-10-2025, 06:35 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:30 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: Now you're jumping to conclusions after getting so worked up about your post being jumped on.

I posted my notes, I noted that Vernon seemed to be a new player, I didn't note anything suspicious in their posts and they have posted a lot more than just asking what pocketing is. I don't see anything wolfy in their posts and I think the two of you misinterpreted each other's posts.

Thinking you are a wolf for the 'one named wolf' post is crazy, likewise, I don't think Vernon is a wolf based on the 'bickering' post. I give my reads based on how I interpret other's posts, I have nothing else to go on on day 1.

Your words from your list was...

Vernon: Must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here

Thats what you wrote, nothing else

(13-10-2025, 06:42 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:35 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: Your words from your list was...

Vernon: Must be a newish player as asked what pocketing is. Village lean here

Thats what you wrote, nothing else

Yes, I don't note everything, just what stands out. I haven't recounted anyone's full post history, that would be pointless.

(13-10-2025, 05:54 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 05:48 PM)Mick the Drunk Wrote: But people can still counter claim without character revealing.

I think I'm just getting into my own head here, in my thoughts there isn't an actual "seer" or "vig" so to speak rather they would be mad roles proper to the theme which I assumed that's what others would have been thinking also. I get what ye are saying. It's just why I was pushing back a bit there because in my mind the roles are not typical so to speak and wouldn't be able to be countered.

• This sacred duty falls uniquely to the Hobbits among you, a burden few can comprehend."
  

(13-10-2025, 06:55 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Ugh. I dont know what happened with the font there on the first half of the post. Can ye read it?

(12-10-2025, 05:58 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(12-10-2025, 05:48 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: I'm taking Sauron as a wolf from the OP.  Although Ina said thats flavour. I dont know Lord of the Rings so I was reading it purely as an opening post, and that Sauron is a wolf.

I would agree with Ina about it being flavour, and the follow up post they made regarding the Sauron not being a physical being.

The OP is lacking on details just the way the mods want it to be, they want us to be confused, and at each other by omitting such details. We don't even know how many players there is, there are 33 names on the lynch form. Were we to believe that to be true figures, I would put the number of baddies as possibly 6 including an SK. Sauron might well be one of those but I wouldn't put it as 100% certain that they are a wolf

Personally I think that lynch form just another ruse by the mods to confuse players.

(12-10-2025, 04:17 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: FYI the first paragraph is just the intro to Lord of the Rings, describing how the ring came to be. Sauron may not even be a wolf in this as he's not in physical form. He might be, but it's not certain is all I'm saying.

Especially as it's based on the first book/movie which is primarily to do with Saruman and his Uruk Hai as the "physical" baddies. A few goblins and a cave ***** too along with an encounter with the Balrog.

Chuck that first paragraph into Google, even the first line and it'll spit the whole thing back to you. It's just flavour.

The game related stuff is further down, which is why people need to read the whole thing.

(12-10-2025, 05:58 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(12-10-2025, 05:48 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: I'm taking Sauron as a wolf from the OP.  Although Ina said thats flavour. I dont know Lord of the Rings so I was reading it purely as an opening post, and that Sauron is a wolf.

I would agree with Ina about it being flavour, and the follow up post they made regarding the Sauron not being a physical being.

The OP is lacking on details just the way the mods want it to be, they want us to be confused, and at each other by omitting such details. We don't even know how many players there is, there are 33 names on the lynch form. Were we to believe that to be true figures, I would put the number of baddies as possibly 6 including an SK. Sauron might well be one of those but I wouldn't put it as 100% certain that they are a wolf

Personally I think that lynch form just another ruse by the mods to confuse players.

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I just ISO’d Ina and I’m really not sure about them. Yes, they are helping with the lore stuff and they’ve plenty of game mechanic posts but everything else is very on the fence.
They say they’re robust in their posts but if we take the earlier convo about Vernon answering for Pat - it was Ina that brought attention to this and when it’s explained they go “yeah, ok” and move back to talking about lore or mechanics.
Mentions they’re voting Betty but I’m still not sure why. Is she waiting for the rest of us to jump on this slow train?

I’m thinking of voting here.

Shoot: Ina
Peek: Mick
Protect: Me

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: I have a bit of time now so:

"The Fellowship wins by eliminating all the Wolves and successfully chaperoning the One Ring to the fires of Mount Doom, cleansing Middle-earth of its greatest evil.

• This sacred duty falls uniquely to the Hobbits among you, a burden few can comprehend."
  

From the OP. To me this reads as though there are there are hobbits and these are a sub-set of the Fellowship, not one and the same. 


Someone has the ring currently, and even if they die, the power can transfer to someone else. HOwever, if all the "ring-bearers" fall (does that just mean all Villagers?) we are screwed, or again is this a sub-set of people?

I see Ina also mentioned this. Sorry I am reading and replying choronologically. 

Like others, I agree that is may not be clear who dies  in a munch, but I guess we will find that out by 10am tomorrow. 

Golum for SK. 
Not sure on number of wolves but could Sauron be Alpha? 

Vernon mentions "multiples". Is that some sort of 2 headed monster wolf? Or just multiple wolves. 


Feel like the following know something additional from behind the scenes, not necessarily in a nefarious manner though. (failing that they are either big LOTR fans and/or experienced players)
-Pat
-Betty 
-Magda
-Ina May

It is Magda who makes a comment on page 1 about the "follow up post" that I mentioned last night. There is NO follow up post that I can see, esp not one that mentions Sauran not being a physical being.... 

She also references a whole bunch of really insighful stuff in that post. 
Later on she indicates that the non posters should be left to the mods. The way it is phrased though, coupled with the earlier insightful post, make it seem more like she knows about flavour kill rather than they would be killed for not posting. 

Wendy posting lots of very village lean type stuff in the early pages. And calling people all sorts of stuff! MAgda calls it reaction posting. 
The AI thing is unusual IMO but not necc nefarious. 

Vernon, Betty and me- tbf, all asking people not to row

Laura- you mentioned no day actions but if there is a SK they will presumably strike at some stage?

Magda and Betty appear to be close in some way- I can't put my finger on it- in the early pages. Wendy calling Betty a liar doesnt make sense to me. She is knowledgable- and you would have to ask why, rather than say it's a lie

Ditto Vernon to an extent, but he seems more remote.  And then asks questions about stuff as if he isnt sure of game play which is interesting. And later this morning, he again asks for calm. I agree with him on his 2 leans though. Why he is wrestling with self doubt later in the day is concerning. (why self?)

Pat points out from the GM post this morning that it might be Sauraman as Alpha. I am trying to remember the various LOTR characters. I'll have a google after this.

Ina also proving quite insightful. Other side of same coin as Magda (or Betty)? I dont think so per se, not a feeling I am getting in my waters.

To answer Pat about the agression- I think there was a lot of shouting at the start- some at everyone (Wendy for example) and some at one another- Betty, Magda, Ina, you. Now that could be coz ye are the most prolific posters so far. Who's to say?

The ring def seems to do something. I am guessing bad- and I said so in my earlier post. There does seem to be corruption somewhere. So if enough good people are converted to wolves, they win by force of numbers alone rather than through munches (And incorrect lynches by the village). Kind of like the "Recruitment" in Traitors?

why is Wendy so keen to oust Pat? Prada and Ben rushing to his defence.

Ok I havent got through all of page 9 nor 10 and 11. I need some time to reflect on stuff @Pat the Baker hence the delay in my deliberations. And, as I mentioned earlier, had much to attend to today in the World of Man. 

I'll post this for now, have dinner and pop back with my thoguhts on page 9 and beyond, as well as my PSP and who I have locked in.

(13-10-2025, 06:18 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:13 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: Yes Magda I have.

Great, so now that is cleared up.. why would you ask Laura what she spotted in relation to Betty.

(13-10-2025, 07:08 PM)Wendy the Wench Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I just ISO’d Ina and I’m really not sure about them. Yes, they are helping with the lore stuff and they’ve plenty of game mechanic posts but everything else is very on the fence.
They say they’re robust in their posts but if we take the earlier convo about Vernon answering for Pat - it was Ina that brought attention to this and when it’s explained they go “yeah, ok” and move back to talking about lore or mechanics.
Mentions they’re voting Betty but I’m still not sure why. Is she waiting for the rest of us to jump on this slow train?

I’m thinking of voting here.

Shoot: Ina
Peek: Mick
Protect: Me

I think you are barking up the wrong tree there buddy.
The Ina ISO reads pretty pure to me.
They have my support on Betty, so why you call it a slow train?

(13-10-2025, 07:09 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:18 PM)Magda the Maid Wrote: Great, so now that is cleared up.. why would you ask Laura what she spotted in relation to Betty.

Because the whole list is suss to me and thought she was echoing another poster and it wasn't her own thought. I didn't question the first post on the thread.

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I just ISO’d Ina and I’m really not sure about them. Yes, they are helping with the lore stuff and they’ve plenty of game mechanic posts but everything else is very on the fence.
They say they’re robust in their posts but if we take the earlier convo about Vernon answering for Pat - it was Ina that brought attention to this and when it’s explained they go “yeah, ok” and move back to talking about lore or mechanics.
Mentions they’re voting Betty but I’m still not sure why. Is she waiting for the rest of us to jump on this slow train?

I’m thinking of voting here.

Shoot: Ina
Peek: Mick
Protect: Me

(13-10-2025, 04:51 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I’d like to hear more from Betty. Their posts this morning gave the impression they’d be back as the day progressed but they’ve been silent so far.

(13-10-2025, 05:31 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote: My own thoughts at the moment and hopefully this won't come off as too fluffy even though it could be argued a lot of what's gone in the last few pages could serve a pillow factory but I digress.

In terms of shoot peak protect

Shoot: Wendy - just something off about their style, feel it could be argued as reaction testing but could just be a noisy wolf trying to line up convenient lynchs.

Peek: Ina - I think they're playing well enough so worth checking their alignment. Other option would be Magda, also a high poster could be worth a look.

Protect - this I can't call, I don't trust anyone quite enough for that regardless. Maybe Ben? I don't know if the heat they've received is based on little more than poking and prodding over wolf numbers. Either way feels unproductive.

I'm currently planning on voting Wendy tonight.

(13-10-2025, 05:35 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 05:31 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote: My own thoughts at the moment and hopefully this won't come off as too fluffy even though it could be argued a lot of what's gone in the last few pages could serve a pillow factory but I digress.

In terms of shoot peak protect

Shoot: Wendy - just something off about their style, feel it could be argued as reaction testing but could just be a noisy wolf trying to line up convenient lynchs.

Peek: Ina - I think they're playing well enough so worth checking their alignment. Other option would be Magda, also a high poster could be worth a look.

Protect - this I can't call, I don't trust anyone quite enough for that regardless. Maybe Ben? I don't know if the heat they've received is based on little more than poking and prodding over wolf numbers. Either way feels unproductive.

I'm currently planning on voting Wendy tonight.

That last paragraph was meant to be protect Pat, not Ben confused myself while writing 🫠 no shade at Ben just think Pat is being targeted for little else really.

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I just ISO’d Ina and I’m really not sure about them. Yes, they are helping with the lore stuff and they’ve plenty of game mechanic posts but everything else is very on the fence.
They say they’re robust in their posts but if we take the earlier convo about Vernon answering for Pat - it was Ina that brought attention to this and when it’s explained they go “yeah, ok” and move back to talking about lore or mechanics.
Mentions they’re voting Betty but I’m still not sure why. Is she waiting for the rest of us to jump on this slow train?

I’m thinking of voting here.

Shoot: Ina
Peek: Mick
Protect: Me

(13-10-2025, 07:13 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I just ISO’d Ina and I’m really not sure about them. Yes, they are helping with the lore stuff and they’ve plenty of game mechanic posts but everything else is very on the fence.
They say they’re robust in their posts but if we take the earlier convo about Vernon answering for Pat - it was Ina that brought attention to this and when it’s explained they go “yeah, ok” and move back to talking about lore or mechanics.
Mentions they’re voting Betty but I’m still not sure why. Is she waiting for the rest of us to jump on this slow train?

I’m thinking of voting here.

Shoot: Ina
Peek: Mick
Protect: Me

I'm voting Betty because before about half an hour ago they hadn't given a single player read the entire game. When I tried to ask them about it they just brushed it off with in character shtick stuff. Then they came back and just did the peek shoot protect game and didn't even challenge the fact I've said I'm voting for them. You also mentioned you wanted to hear more from Betty. They made like one more post and you're suddenly satisfied? Interesting that you'd just drop that all of a sudden though Benji.

And it was William talking for Pat, not Vernon. And the explanation given was fine in my eyes, so why dwell on it.

People asked me questions about lore or mechanics would you prefer I don't answer?

(13-10-2025, 07:13 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: I just ISO’d Ina and I’m really not sure about them. Yes, they are helping with the lore stuff and they’ve plenty of game mechanic posts but everything else is very on the fence.
They say they’re robust in their posts but if we take the earlier convo about Vernon answering for Pat - it was Ina that brought attention to this and when it’s explained they go “yeah, ok” and move back to talking about lore or mechanics.
Mentions they’re voting Betty but I’m still not sure why. Is she waiting for the rest of us to jump on this slow train?

I’m thinking of voting here.

Shoot: Ina
Peek: Mick
Protect: Me

I'm voting Betty because before about half an hour ago they hadn't given a single player read the entire game. When I tried to ask them about it they just brushed it off with in character shtick stuff. Then they came back and just did the peek shoot protect game and didn't even challenge the fact I've said I'm voting for them. You also mentioned you wanted to hear more from Betty. They made like one more post and you're suddenly satisfied? Interesting that you'd just drop that all of a sudden though Benji.

And it was William talking for Pat, not Vernon. And the explanation given was fine in my eyes, so why dwell on it.

People asked me questions about lore or mechanics would you prefer I don't answer?

(13-10-2025, 06:54 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: Magda and Betty appear to be close in some way- I can't put my finger on it- in the early pages. Wendy calling Betty a liar doesnt make sense to me. She is knowledgable- and you would have to ask why, rather than say it's a lie

(13-10-2025, 07:21 PM)Betty the Beggar Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 07:13 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: I'm voting Betty because before about half an hour ago they hadn't given a single player read the entire game. When I tried to ask them about it they just brushed it off with in character shtick stuff. Then they came back and just did the peek shoot protect game and didn't even challenge the fact I've said I'm voting for them. You also mentioned you wanted to hear more from Betty. They made like one more post and you're suddenly satisfied? Interesting that you'd just drop that all of a sudden though Benji.

And it was William talking for Pat, not Vernon. And the explanation given was fine in my eyes, so why dwell on it.

People asked me questions about lore or mechanics would you prefer I don't answer?

To be honest I think you're wasting a vote on me, i didn't directly challenge because we're early in the game and I'm not taking any offense at accusations. 

I just haven't had the time to give in depth reviews to all. I think you're one of the better players here so want to keep you around unless I'm backing a wolf here. So vote me if you really want to, I think there are others who are far sketchier like Wendy.

(13-10-2025, 07:22 PM)Rhoda the Spinster Wrote: A lot I spent ages on that post, and that's all you have to say.
I don't think saying something. And then saying that I will come back and clarify what I meant is going on and on about something.
Also, Pat, why do you keep saying Betty? Isn't aggressive? Once again, I will have to go back and check. But somebody shouted Wolf very loudly in Perhaps it was Wendy. I'm not Betty, but there did seem to be a fair bit of rumbunctiousness. Between the very prolific posters, including yourself at the start.

(13-10-2025, 07:24 PM)Laura the Lace Mistress Wrote: I don't like that long post from Rhoda, repeats a lot of earlier posts, some confusion thrown in "Vernon mentions "multiples". Is that some sort of 2 headed monster wolf? Or just multiple wolves."

Suggests players might be linked, why would you highlight this or players being close?
"Feel like the following know something additional from behind the scenes, not necessarily in a nefarious manner though. (failing that they are either big LOTR fans and/or experienced players)"

Claims to have read the OP but asks me why I said there's no day actions.

Tempted to vote here now.

(13-10-2025, 07:24 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 07:13 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: I'm voting Betty because before about half an hour ago they hadn't given a single player read the entire game. When I tried to ask them about it they just brushed it off with in character shtick stuff. Then they came back and just did the peek shoot protect game and didn't even challenge the fact I've said I'm voting for them. You also mentioned you wanted to hear more from Betty. They made like one more post and you're suddenly satisfied? Interesting that you'd just drop that all of a sudden though Benji.

And it was William talking for Pat, not Vernon. And the explanation given was fine in my eyes, so why dwell on it.

People asked me questions about lore or mechanics would you prefer I don't answer?

But haven’t you had a placeholder vote on Betty from earlier on today? And I’ve never said I’m satisfied with Betty, I was just doing a read back on you. If they get voted out and return as a wolf then happy days, my read of you would change. If they return as SK or village it wouldn’t change. 

My mistake in mixing William and Vernon up. 

Your lore posts are very informative so keep them up. It’s the other posts that I’m still unsure of.

(13-10-2025, 07:30 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 07:24 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote: But haven’t you had a placeholder vote on Betty from earlier on today? And I’ve never said I’m satisfied with Betty, I was just doing a read back on you. If they get voted out and return as a wolf then happy days, my read of you would change. If they return as SK or village it wouldn’t change. 

My mistake in mixing William and Vernon up. 

Your lore posts are very informative so keep them up. It’s the other posts that I’m still unsure of.

Yes I explained that earlier. I always put in an early placeholder vote in case something happens later in the day and I'm unavailable. The placeholder also normally changes. Normally. I'm still not sure who to vote yet at all. There's loads of time.

If votes were locked that would be a different story.

(13-10-2025, 03:19 PM)Edward the Barber Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 02:19 PM)Pat the Baker Wrote: You've completely discounted there could be 3 so?

How does 'that looks to be the case' equal 'completely discounted'?

I think 4 wolves is the worst case for us, better to work from that than think there are 3 and be surprised there is another

(13-10-2025, 07:35 PM)Benjamin the Alchemist Wrote:

(13-10-2025, 07:30 PM)Ina May the Midwife Wrote: Yes I explained that earlier. I always put in an early placeholder vote in case something happens later in the day and I'm unavailable. The placeholder also normally changes. Normally. I'm still not sure who to vote yet at all. There's loads of time.

If votes were locked that would be a different story.

Nothing better than a CFD on a Monday night in October. 😝