A sheep, a werewolf and a walrus walk into a bar.

I enjoyed being a wolf in The Office, great wolf team and mod organisation, highly enjoyable, thanks all

I enjoyed this, not knowing the vig only had one shot initially was cunning! It was hard to know what the vig was at and if they hadn't any of us under suspicion.

I really enjoyed the backroom with @jp liz v1 and @LadySkunk too, especially when we knew were rumbled because we just continued for the craic. Great exit as always by the inimitable liz!

Really enjoyed the office game, thought there was decent balance in it, first evening game I've played and it definitely helped me with stress management. First game I've played in a while too, after learning to mod, so really appreciate how much work goes into it!

I do admire anyone who game mods, bravo

(10-10-2021, 09:27 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: [ -> ]I do admire anyone who game mods, bravo

It's really fun liz! You should give it a go, much less stressful than playing

i really enjoyed the game too, ran very smoothly from a gameplay point of view so thanks mods

being the last unpeeked nrv is tough, i was sure i sounded super villagery at the end but loads of people thought i was the wolf so obvs not as villagery as i thought

What is more difficult role in that final scenario we were in? being the unpeeked nrv, the peaked nrv or the wolf? i'd imagine it is the peaked nrv?

@nothing when did you first suspect me?

@lorcand1990 it must be hardest for the one with the responsibility of choosing. At least if the last 2 villagers are unconfirmed it's up to them and the wolf to fight it out.


Anyone want to give me a crash course in game mechanics? I don't understand when lylo kicks in based on numbers, nor how wagonics works.

LYLO is any lynch where a wrong vote will result in the village losing. LYnch/LOse. So if there are three village and 1 wolf, and you lynch a village you're left with 2 v 1 but the assumption is that the wolf will munch in the morning to make it 1 v 1 and parity so it's over already (if there's a BG in play it may not be LYLO as it may yet depend on the last wolf munch choice though). It doesn't always have to happen at 3 v 1 though. It could be 4 v 2, for example.

Wagonomics isn't an exact science. It's about seeing where known wolves voted, and who voted for them. For example, in a close race, if Necro is voted off, but Liz came second and is later revealed to be a wolf, and the last person to vote for Necro was Skunk then it *may* indicate Skunk is a wolf because she voted for Necro to save teammate Liz.

(10-10-2021, 09:15 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]I enjoyed this, not knowing the vig only had one shot initially was cunning! It was hard to know what the vig was at and if they hadn't any of us under suspicion.

I really enjoyed the backroom with @jp liz v1 and @LadySkunk too, especially when we knew were rumbled because we just continued for the craic. Great exit as always by the inimitable liz!

I’ve read the backrooms, and i think ye’s panic’ed a bit too early, really admired skunk for a post she made saying to cop on, don’t give up ever, hold together strong. See, you were counting your demise with bad numbers and were in better shape than you believed. For instance, if you had off attempted to munch me and failed, that would be fine for ye’s but ye’s seemed to feel that was game over, when i believe yaz has a better chance if ya had of attempted to munch protected me, and has me and the bodyguard left, who demonstrated that they had different opinions of who the last wolf was. Also, because munch was blocked, you have guaranteed munch next night, so if you get mislynch with 4, you have the win, opposed to mislynch with 3 were the confirmed villager was well suspicions of ya.

(10-10-2021, 10:11 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]@nothing when did you first suspect me?

@lorcand1990 it must be hardest for the one with the responsibility of choosing. At least if the last 2 villagers are unconfirmed it's up to them and the wolf to fight it out.


Anyone want to give me a crash course in game mechanics? I don't understand when lylo kicks in based on numbers, nor how wagonics works.

I never suspected you! It was only from reading the deadroom that I found out haha!

(10-10-2021, 10:20 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 09:15 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]I enjoyed this, not knowing the vig only had one shot initially was cunning! It was hard to know what the vig was at and if they hadn't any of us under suspicion.

I really enjoyed the backroom with @jp liz v1 and @LadySkunk too, especially when we knew were rumbled because we just continued for the craic. Great exit as always by the inimitable liz!

I’ve read the backrooms, and i think ye’s panic’ed a bit too early, really admired skunk for a post she made saying to cop on, don’t give up ever, hold together strong. See, you were counting your demise with bad numbers and were in better shape than you believed. For instance, if you had off attempted  to munch me and failed, that would be fine for ye’s but ye’s seemed to feel that was game over,  when i believe yaz has a better chance if ya had of attempted to munch protected me, and has me and the bodyguard left, who demonstrated that they had different opinions of who the last wolf was. Also, because munch was blocked, you have guaranteed munch next night, so if you get mislynch with 4, you have the win, opposed to mislynch with 3 were the confirmed villager was well suspicions of ya.

Duff would have said he'd protected you, and out of Lorcan and me I'd be the one who wanted you gone.

I could have argued that Lorcan tried to munch you to set me up, but would I have convinced you? I don't think so and I think you would have convinced Duff too!

(10-10-2021, 10:18 PM)quickbeam Wrote: [ -> ]LYLO is any lynch where a wrong vote will result in the village losing.  LYnch/LOse.  So if there are three village and 1 wolf, and you lynch a village you're left with 2 v 1 but the assumption is that the wolf will munch in the morning to make it 1 v 1 and parity so it's over already (if there's a BG in play it may not be LYLO as it may yet depend on the last wolf munch choice though).  It doesn't always have to happen at 3 v 1 though.  It could be 4 v 2, for example.

Wagonomics isn't an exact science.  It's about seeing where known wolves voted, and who voted for them.  For example, in a close race, if Necro is voted off, but Liz came second and is later revealed to be a wolf, and the last person to vote for Necro was Skunk then it *may* indicate Skunk is a wolf because she voted for Necro to save teammate Liz.

After Baggly was lynched some players were convinced there was one wolf in his voters, others said too. There was 2, liz and me.

What is the better play for wolves? Spread your votes early in the game or votes in pairs or all together?

(10-10-2021, 10:27 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]What is the better play for wolves? Spread your votes early in the game or votes in pairs or all together?

There isn't really a definitive answer to that.

(10-10-2021, 10:30 PM)quickbeam Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:27 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]What is the better play for wolves? Spread your votes early in the game or votes in pairs or all together?

There isn't really a definitive answer to that.

That's what I thought, it's wifom for the village trying to guess what strategy the wolves went for.

I tend to play on gut rather than analysing votes etc, but need to pay more attention to that.

(10-10-2021, 10:34 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]That's what I thought, it's wifom for the village trying to guess what strategy the wolves went for.

I tend to play on gut rather than analysing votes etc, but need to pay more attention to that.

For a village, it is probably going to be a combo of a few things. Like if someone had a suspicious vote on someone AND was playing wolfie. But, let's face it, village probably will end up lynching more village than wolves, even in games they win.

(10-10-2021, 10:27 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:18 PM)quickbeam Wrote: [ -> ]LYLO is any lynch where a wrong vote will result in the village losing.  LYnch/LOse.  So if there are three village and 1 wolf, and you lynch a village you're left with 2 v 1 but the assumption is that the wolf will munch in the morning to make it 1 v 1 and parity so it's over already (if there's a BG in play it may not be LYLO as it may yet depend on the last wolf munch choice though).  It doesn't always have to happen at 3 v 1 though.  It could be 4 v 2, for example.

Wagonomics isn't an exact science.  It's about seeing where known wolves voted, and who voted for them.  For example, in a close race, if Necro is voted off, but Liz came second and is later revealed to be a wolf, and the last person to vote for Necro was Skunk then it *may* indicate Skunk is a wolf because she voted for Necro to save teammate Liz.

After Baggly was lynched some players were convinced there was one wolf in his voters, others said too. There was 2, liz and me.

What is the better play for wolves? Spread your votes early in the game or votes in pairs or all together?

As quickbeam has just said wagonomics is not a science, it’s an interpretation, and after every game, with prior experience, the wolves could well decide to play ya on wagonomics, but you make guesses, but you only ever base odds on wagonomics, you never have a 100% wolf on it, but you can increase someone from unknown to likely wolf because of it

(10-10-2021, 10:38 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:27 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]After Baggly was lynched some players were convinced there was one wolf in his voters, others said too. There was 2, liz and me.

What is the better play for wolves? Spread your votes early in the game or votes in pairs or all together?

As quickbeam has just said wagonomics is not a science, it’s an interpretation, and after every game, with prior experience, the wolves could well decide to play ya on wagonomics, but you make guesses, but you only ever base odds on wagonomics, you never have a 100% wolf on it, but you can increase someone from unknown to likely wolf because of it

There was one point at the end of the office game where you mentioned a glimmer of doubt about Lorcan but said that wagonomics indicated he wasn't the wolf. Reading the deadroom Trigger was worried you were overthinking it.

I enjoy playing, but realise now I need to get up to speed on the mechanics. Are old games available from Boards to read?

(10-10-2021, 10:47 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:38 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]As quickbeam has just said wagonomics is not a science, it’s an interpretation, and after every game, with prior experience, the wolves could well decide to play ya on wagonomics, but you make guesses, but you only ever base odds on wagonomics, you never have a 100% wolf on it, but you can increase someone from unknown to likely wolf because of it

There was one point at the end of the office game where you mentioned a glimmer of doubt about Lorcan but said that wagonomics indicated he wasn't the wolf. Reading the deadroom Trigger was worried you were overthinking it.

I enjoy playing, but realise now I need to get up to speed on the mechanics. Are old games available from Boards to read?

all the games i have ever played in are available to read, as well as all their backrooms

(10-10-2021, 10:25 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]Duff would have said he'd protected you, and out of Lorcan and me I'd be the one who wanted you gone.

I could have argued that Lorcan tried to munch you to set me up, but would I have convinced you? I don't think so and I think you would have convinced Duff too!

Just on convincing neo on endgame, one thing I tried to do, which would probably be considered more of a wolf tactic than village was that when I was replying to neos questions towards the end, I tried to be as direct and accurate as possible as that is neos style of positing. With you I probably had a different style of posting as I knew u were trying to set me up lol

I dunno if it had any influence but it can be one way of swinging someone's favour, by posting in a similar manner to them, and knowing what they are looking for.. or else I'm just talking complete crap, that's quite possible 

(10-10-2021, 10:57 PM)lorcand1990 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:25 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]Duff would have said he'd protected you, and out of Lorcan and me I'd be the one who wanted you gone.

I could have argued that Lorcan tried to munch you to set me up, but would I have convinced you? I don't think so and I think you would have convinced Duff too!

Just on convincing neo on endgame, one thing I tried to do, which would probably be considered more of a wolf tactic than village was that when I was replying to neos questions towards the end, I tried to be as direct and accurate as possible as that is neos style of positing. With you I probably had a different style of posting as I knew u were trying to set me up lol

I dunno if it had any influence but it can be one way of swinging someone's favour, by posting in a similar manner to them, and knowing what they are looking for.. or else I'm just talking complete crap, that's quite possible 

When you mentioned the Jan lynch post I think you were talking about your post where you said to shoot her before the lynch result.

To me, the Jan lynch post was Necro's announcement. That's where all that confusion came from!

It's easier to be direct when you're village too ...

(10-10-2021, 10:56 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:47 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]There was one point at the end of the office game where you mentioned a glimmer of doubt about Lorcan but said that wagonomics indicated he wasn't the wolf. Reading the deadroom Trigger was worried you were overthinking it.

I enjoy playing, but realise now I need to get up to speed on the mechanics. Are old games available from Boards to read?

all the games i have ever played in are available to read, as well as all their backrooms

Where are they and I'll have a read?

Or if I'm lazy I'll ask you to get me a link!

(10-10-2021, 10:57 PM)lorcand1990 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:25 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]Duff would have said he'd protected you, and out of Lorcan and me I'd be the one who wanted you gone.

I could have argued that Lorcan tried to munch you to set me up, but would I have convinced you? I don't think so and I think you would have convinced Duff too!

Just on convincing neo on endgame, one thing I tried to do, which would probably be considered more of a wolf tactic than village was that when I was replying to neos questions towards the end, I tried to be as direct and accurate as possible as that is neos style of positing. With you I probably had a different style of posting as I knew u were trying to set me up lol

I dunno if it had any influence but it can be one way of swinging someone's favour, by posting in a similar manner to them, and knowing what they are looking for.. or else I'm just talking complete crap, that's quite possible 

no, not complete crap, i thought i was on same wavelenght as you, and that went some way in persuading me that we had same role.

(10-10-2021, 11:16 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:56 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]all the games i have ever played in are available to read, as well as all their backrooms

Where are they and I'll have a read?

Or if I'm lazy I'll ask you to get me a link!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057666...d-queue/p1

here is a link to all the early game, i made sure that all the backrooms are availbe to read.
if you have any trouble finding any back room to ny game, ask and i'll dig out a link for you.
note, in the link i posted, each game can be found by clicking the werewolf link.

happy to assist anytime, just ask.

(10-10-2021, 11:44 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 11:16 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]Where are they and I'll have a read?

Or if I'm lazy I'll ask you to get me a link!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057666...d-queue/p1

here is a link to all the early game, i made sure that all the backrooms are availbe to read.
if you have any trouble finding any back room to ny game, ask and i'll dig out a link for you.
not, in the link i posted, each game can be found by clicking the werewolf link.

happy to assist anytime, just ask.

only because when i was new. i wanted to read them all and nagged and nagged to get access, when it wasn't straight forward. feel free to nag me.

(10-10-2021, 11:48 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 11:44 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057666...d-queue/p1

here is a link to all the early game, i made sure that all the backrooms are availbe to read.
if you have any trouble finding any back room to ny game, ask and i'll dig out a link for you.
not, in the link i posted, each game can be found by clicking the werewolf link.

happy to assist anytime, just ask.

only because when i was new. i wanted to read them all and nagged and nagged to get access, when it wasn't straight forward. feel free to nag me.

Oh I will nag you, there's no better way to learn than asking one of the best!


Asking for the link was a joke because of your little mind game at the end of play!

(10-10-2021, 11:58 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 11:48 PM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]only because when i was new. i wanted to read them all and nagged and nagged to get access, when it wasn't straight forward. feel free to nag me.

Oh I will nag you, there's no better way to learn than asking one of the best!


Asking for the link was a joke because of your little mind game at the end of play!

your obvious pocketing will not work on me lassy!

(11-10-2021, 12:02 AM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 11:58 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]Oh I will nag you, there's no better way to learn than asking one of the best!


Asking for the link was a joke because of your little mind game at the end of play!

your obvious pocketing will not work on me lassy!

I ruined all my chances of that when I was Superintendent Chalmers!

Just looking through the very first Boards WW game, they're all so relaxed. One thing I've noticed in the few games I've played is that you get more battle-hardened with each game, but they had great craic at the start. I'm looking forward to seeing how it progressed.

(10-10-2021, 09:33 PM)nothing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 09:27 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: [ -> ]I do admire anyone who game mods, bravo

It's really fun liz! You should give it a go, much less stressful than playing

Have u seen me play, god lord me trying to mod, heaven forbid, be a Disaster 

I would love a Line of Duty WW game 

(11-10-2021, 12:20 AM)jp liz v1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 09:33 PM)nothing Wrote: [ -> ]It's really fun liz! You should give it a go, much less stressful than playing

Have u seen me play, god lord me trying to mod, heaven forbid, be a Disaster 

I would love a Line of Duty WW game 

thats a possibility.

Would you be interested in co modding or playing?

(11-10-2021, 12:18 AM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]I'm looking forward to seeing how it progressed.

Spoiler :






Someone had a baby in the middle of it.








Or maybe that was the second game.









I’m not even kidding.

(10-10-2021, 11:15 PM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 10:57 PM)lorcand1990 Wrote: [ -> ]Just on convincing neo on endgame, one thing I tried to do, which would probably be considered more of a wolf tactic than village was that when I was replying to neos questions towards the end, I tried to be as direct and accurate as possible as that is neos style of positing. With you I probably had a different style of posting as I knew u were trying to set me up lol

I dunno if it had any influence but it can be one way of swinging someone's favour, by posting in a similar manner to them, and knowing what they are looking for.. or else I'm just talking complete crap, that's quite possible 

When you mentioned the Jan lynch post I think you were talking about your post where you said to shoot her before the lynch result.

To me, the Jan lynch post was Necro's announcement. That's where all that confusion came from!

It's easier to be direct when you're village too ...

No you're right, at first I was asking you about the Jan lynch post, I'll run you through my thought process, as it seems I've hit the holy grail and genuinely confused a wolf more than the village 

So when Jan lynch post was posted, I had an 'oh shit' moment because she could only survive a shot from the vig, a lynch would have killed her outright. I panicked because I remembered I was pushing for a shot on Jan, so could look bad for me. However I then remembered there were a few people calling for a shot & Neo was definitely one of them because they had asked me for my rationale at the time, so I went back and had a look at the posts around the time she was revealed. Loads of village were asking for a shot, but you were pretty quiet about actually shooting her. That's when it pinged I might be able to use this to my advantage and get you found out, especially since lady skunk was asking for a shot- that creates distance between the two of you

I needed to find out where your head was with it, but I didn't want to give you exactly what I was thinking because it would show my hand. The village had new info about Jan & I needed to tease out what you knew. When I asked 'is the game over' and you replied, I was fully expecting you to mention that Jan could only survive the shot and I'm clearly a wolf for asking for a shot. When you didn't I thought it was because you didn't want the village going back to those posts as it was actually a worse look for you than me- turns out it was the other reason & you hadn't noticed the Jan lynch post

When you didn't bring it up I knew I had you but I also had a little dilemma. I had to decide do I tell you exactly why it makes you look wolfy, or do I hold firm and keep relatively quiet until Neo/Duffman show up. I decided to wait because it could have gone this way:

Me: why didn't you call me out on the jan thing
You: what Jan thing?
Me: she was only bullet proof, said so in lynch post & i was pushing for a shot
You: oh yeah I know, I read that, obviously, I was just reading back around the time Jan was peaked. Lorcand you are such a wolf for that.. etc etc

Then you could have gone back and read the posts around the time of the shot & came up with a defense before village showed up.

By waiting until Neo asked & explaining it to him, even though I think he knew what I was up to already, it 100% showed you had no idea what I was referring to & hadn't noticed the jan lynch post or read back around the time she was peaked, which (in my opinion) was really wolfy

Looking back, even though I had a really bad first couple of days, that play was one of my better ones in WW so far!

But I made sure to post that we'd spot liz if she regenned at the time, I genuinely thought you kept harking back to Necro's post as that was the lynch post. I had to play dumb about not knowing the shot wouldn't kill her. We only found out on Monday when liz joined the game.

(11-10-2021, 11:06 AM)Leg End Reject Wrote: [ -> ]But I made sure to post that we'd spot liz if she regenned at the time, I genuinely thought you kept harking back to Necro's post as that was the lynch post. I had to play dumb about not knowing the shot wouldn't kill her. We only found out on Monday when liz joined the game.

Oh yeah you had to play dumb before Necros post, but after that it was out in the open and it really looked like you didn't pick up on Necros post with the 'additional' Jan info. For Neo, Duffman & myself the fact that Jan was bulletproof was new info, for you it wasn't. The fact you weren't surprised by the info was a bit of a wolf tell (in my opinion)

You said we would notice her if she regened, but never really pushed for a shot either. That's not a slam dunk wolf move, bit another little give away

Me, you & lady skunk were the only unconfirmed players left & the fact that I noticed Necros post straight away and was willing to push to try discuss it, along with discussing the convo just before Jan got shot was a better look for me. It wasn't 'new' info for you (& skunk), you were aware of it since Monday so it just seemed to pass by your radar. I think that's why it confused you, but I could be wrong. Village seemed to suspect lady skunk more than you so I knew I had to keep pushing you

I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself perfectly, but that's my take on it

(11-10-2021, 01:00 AM)Neowise Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 12:20 AM)jp liz v1 Wrote: [ -> ]Have u seen me play, god lord me trying to mod, heaven forbid, be a Disaster 

I would love a Line of Duty WW game 

thats a possibility.

Would you be interested in co modding or playing?

Either 

(11-10-2021, 12:20 AM)jp liz v1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-10-2021, 09:33 PM)nothing Wrote: [ -> ]It's really fun liz! You should give it a go, much less stressful than playing

Have u seen me play, god lord me trying to mod, heaven forbid, be a Disaster 

I would love a Line of Duty WW game 

I'd love to see how a liz game would play out.. everyone gets peaked night 1?? 

Was there ever a Bond game?

(12-10-2021, 10:29 AM)lorcand1990 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2021, 12:20 AM)jp liz v1 Wrote: [ -> ]Have u seen me play, god lord me trying to mod, heaven forbid, be a Disaster 

I would love a Line of Duty WW game 

I'd love to see how a liz game would play out.. everyone gets peaked night 1?? 

My guess is the wolves would have a seer, bg and a vig!

(13-10-2021, 06:30 PM)jp liz v1 Wrote: [ -> ]Was there ever a Bond game?

That would be brilliant! There's plenty of characters to choose from too.

007 Mafia was the game name.. wolves Won according to the trusty spreadsheet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057986...ead#latest

@quickbeam, I've been reading old games on Boards.

Tigger ... what's the story there?